Video: TOTUS betrays POTUS again
posted at 4:30 pm on April 27, 2009 by Allahpundit
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From this morning’s address to the National Academy of Science, in which The One continued his relentless jackass demagoguery of people who disagree with him about particular scientific policies. Says Jay Cost:
Who the hell is saying we cannot afford to invest in science? Isn’t the real argument about whether we can spend so much more (fully 3% of GDP) on science, and revitalize the economy, and save the banks, and save the Big Three, and spend more on education, and reform health care, and revolutionize the energy sector all at the same time?…
What is especially annoying to me is that – to win what amounts to a few quick, short-term political points – the President is really hitting below the belt. Those who are opposed to federal funding of stem cell research are somehow un-American: they are against “free and open inquiry,” and are willing to undermine “scientific integrity” and “our democracy.” Why? In service to “a pre-determined ideological agenda.”…
I am sick and tired of the President’s rhetorical sophistry – and if Frank Newport’s employee called me up today, I would say that I disapprove of the job he is doing. If Scott Rasmussen’s robot called me, I’d say that I strongly disapprove. A President should not be mischaracterizing, and working actively to alienate, fully 40% of his consistency – especially after he promised he wouldn’t.
Perhaps in quiet agreement with Cost’s take, TOTUS decided to take a little break mid-sentence during the speech. I’m tempted to say that it’s Obama himself who’s at fault and that TOTUS, being a good soldier, is merely taking the rap, but we know better than that. After all, he has a gift, Harry.
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Those who are opposed to federal funding of stem cell research are somehow un-American: they are against “free and open inquiry,” and are willing to undermine “scientific integrity” and “our democracy.” Why? In service to “a pre-determined ideological agenda.”…
If you have quoted Cost correctly, the single missing word makes all the difference. Because neither Bush nor Republicans ever opposed the funding of stem cell research in general, but of only embryonic stem cell research.
Contrary to what you assert, the issues surrounding embryonic stem cell research and the use of human embryos for research purposes generally are not religious questions per se but moral ones. A critical, further issue bound up in this research is the morality of creating and cloning embryos solely for the purposes of research. Yet Dear Leader appears to think that such profound moral questions are merely matters of ‘ideology’ are hence are not even up to his pay grade!
Scientists ignore moral issues arising from their research not only at their own but at all humanity’s peril. We should have learned from the past on this, but clearly many have not.
ProfessorMiao on April 27, 2009 at 5:23 PM
I have a gift! I stand on the mountain top and there is only ME ME ME ME …
er, ah, uh, ME and my tele-prompter …
Dhuka on April 27, 2009 at 5:24 PM
strangelet, if embryonic stem cell research is actually promising and has great potential for practical near-term results, why do suppose federal funding is required to keep it going?
DarkCurrent on April 27, 2009 at 5:25 PM
Gee. Obama giving out wads of cash draws people with their hands out. crazy huh?
Ampersand on April 27, 2009 at 5:26 PM
I don’t know…
It may not be so bad setting up the teleprompter on these occasions…
Taking one for the team and all…
ericdijon on April 27, 2009 at 5:26 PM
Bullshytt.
Are you saying the termination of donated differentiated cell clumps from terminal cryostasis is violating your religious freedom?
Do we have a state religion in America? haha, maybe we did under Bush.
Not any more.
;)
strangelet on April 27, 2009 at 5:26 PM
Who is politicizing science? You do realize that President Bush was the first president to provide any funding at all for eSCR, and that only on existing stem cell lines? Science cannot exist in a moral vacuum, else you have situations I will not mention hence I violate Godwin’s Law. Cloning human embryos (which is what somatic cell nuclear transfer consists of) to dissect in the lab is one of those issues that deserves a full ethical and moral review. Not a bunch of Hollywood celebs and scientists who profit from research funds making outrageous and irresponsible claims.
coyoterex on April 27, 2009 at 5:27 PM
I don’t know – what does it say in your membership manual?
landshark on April 27, 2009 at 5:29 PM
If the science was promising, Big Pharma would be spending billions on it to fill their frighteningly meager drug pipelines.
It isn’t, so they aren’t.
omnipotent on April 27, 2009 at 5:29 PM
I’m saying forcing me to pay for it does. Don’t pretend it isn’t true.
Besides, DarkCurrent has a point.
Esthier on April 27, 2009 at 5:30 PM
He can read, I guess.
Johan Klaus on April 27, 2009 at 5:31 PM
Dictators get a smile and a handshake, Conservative Americans get the finger.
29Victor on April 27, 2009 at 5:33 PM
Don’t try to confuse strange with facts.
Esthier on April 27, 2009 at 5:35 PM
If embryonic stem cell research was a money maker, the pharmaceuticals would have been all over it years ago.
It isn’t, and they aren’t.
So, the conclusion is to innocculate the population with the settled-science notion that abortion isn’t all that bad, that killing off a few to save millions is good…and standing in the way of abortion is bad and means you want to see millions die.
coldwarrior on April 27, 2009 at 5:35 PM
chump
marklmail on April 27, 2009 at 5:35 PM
Actually that was a lie.
The existing ESC lines are unstable and useless for human research.
All useful stem cell lines (both ASC and ESC) can only date from 2006 when Johns Hopkins solved the mousefeedercell contamination problem.
When the lines were restarted, the 21 blessed lines were found to be unstable.
The stem cell expansion bill that Bush vetoed was to use 2 dozen embryos from the 400,000 snowflake embryos in terminal cryostasis to restart the lines.
strangelet on April 27, 2009 at 5:36 PM
Not only that, BO obviously shuts off his brain when he’s reading from the teleprompter.
It’s actually quite amusing, because he has learned to read the words as if he’s emotionally invested in what he’s saying, but when he flubs, it’s really obvious his brain is either totally shut down or occupied with the boobs on the lady in the third row (assuming he’s straight, which may or may not be a valid assumption).
Daggett on April 27, 2009 at 5:37 PM
Maybe TOTUS needs a drink.
Brat4life on April 27, 2009 at 5:39 PM
Maybe all of the capable teleprompter operators are conservative? >;-)
cannonball on April 27, 2009 at 5:40 PM
Doesn’t matter.
The Dark Ages in America are over.
By the time you get back into power (8 years minimum) we will have hundreds of hESCR projects running.
;)
Can’t put the genie back in the bottle, lol.
strangelet on April 27, 2009 at 5:40 PM
What a magnificent, gifted orator ODumbo is. Wow, unless you watch that video really carefully, you can’t even tell that he got out of phase with the teleprompter, he just doesn’t miss a beat. Not like that bimbo Palin, whose teleprompter malfunction during her acceptance speech for the vice-presidential nomination ruined her speech.
/sarcasm stop, Obot mode out of detent, humor control both auto, liberal-bashing command override mode off, snark arm off, comment is in
mr.blacksheep on April 27, 2009 at 5:41 PM
strangelet, several of us have posed the same question in different forms:
- DarkCurrent on April 27, 2009 at 5:25 PM
- omnipotent on April 27, 2009 at 5:29 PM
- coldwarrior on April 27, 2009 at 5:35 PM
Can you address it?
DarkCurrent on April 27, 2009 at 5:44 PM
There’s no crime in using a teleprompter, but Obama really needs to learn to cover mistakes more gracefully. If he had a good grasp of his material he’d be able to bridge any “gaps” without the audience being aware of it. Or if all else fails, use humor–but that doesn’t seem to be part of his skill set either.
The impression you get is of a very serious, but unprepared, speaker who can’t think on his feet. Couple that with his overseas “can’t we all just get along initiative” and it’s easy to understand why the bullies of the world are feeling emboldened.
Dee2008 on April 27, 2009 at 5:45 PM
The three reasons we need to do both hASCR and hESCR are that hASCs grown from the host are automatically non-rejective so they are better for replacement tissues, hESCs are better for disease modelling, and hESCs increased telomere length makes them irreplaceable for anti-aging research and therapy.
Who wants to live forever?
(lol, that was for the Highlander)
strangelet on April 27, 2009 at 5:47 PM
There will come a time when you’ll wonder why you thought this was all so amusing.
Dee2008 on April 27, 2009 at 5:47 PM
Asking an awful lot there aren’t you? /s
That’s not the way it is done in the NEA controlled education system we have. Teach the test. Inflate the grades. Job complete.
But actually teaching material so the sutdents can have a good grasp of the material?
That is so 1800’s.
coldwarrior on April 27, 2009 at 5:49 PM
I’m surprised that anyone is happy about the fact that private companies will be profiting off your tax dollars.
I know I’m stoked!
lorien1973 on April 27, 2009 at 5:49 PM
If that was intended as a reply to my or other’s questions you’ve missed or avoided the point. Specifically, why is federal funding required?
DarkCurrent on April 27, 2009 at 5:53 PM
Basic research must be fed funded at some level– hASCR has results for that very reason, fed funding. Left to their own devices private industry (Big Pharma) only researches sure things (return to investment) like male erectile function drugs, the anti-fat pill, and female climax inna bottle.
strangelet on April 27, 2009 at 5:54 PM
Hummm I guess this means the unemployment rolls went up by one.
Jdripper on April 27, 2009 at 5:56 PM
No there won’t.
We have wasted three years that we could have been fighting the War on Disease and Aging. I don’t think it is funnie at all.
strangelet on April 27, 2009 at 5:56 PM
I thought this was a “sure thing”.
You want to fight aging? Yeah, that’s not ever going to backfire…
Esthier on April 27, 2009 at 5:58 PM
That is excellent. I was planning on not watching it LIVE (of course, will read about it and watch any newsmaking clips) and not give him the May sweeps ratings he seeks.
KittyLowrey on April 27, 2009 at 5:58 PM
I love how you complain about Bush politicizing science while you politicize science under a post about your dear leader politicizing science. Liberal hypocrisy is never hard to find.
Ampersand on April 27, 2009 at 5:58 PM
Once again, if there was money to be made in research of these lines, the free market would need no help from the federal government. Bush rightly removed the fed from the equation. While his reasoning was political, the end result was sound, namely removing government influence from the free market.
The same reasoning goes for alternative fuel research. Solar and wind technology does not and should not receive any support from government. When the technology becomes more cost-effective than traditional fuels the market will adopt it.
If the federal government really wants to support such technologies, they would cease interference in the free market (through taxpayer funding as well as punitive taxes and regulations), ending the mass misappropriation and politicization of capital that these actions lead to.
TheMightyMonarch on April 27, 2009 at 5:59 PM
Two points from a professional teleprompter operator (for whatever that’s worth):
1. If the talent gets lost reading the teleprompter, capable readers can cover it easily. Obama? Epic fail.
2. A good operator will go along with the person reading, and if they get lost, try to give them a place in the script where they can easily come back and start reading. Obama’s operator? Epic fail.
3. There should never be a case when the talent talks directly to the prompter operator, because it destroys the illusion that the speaker is using notes or talking off the top of his head. Obama: Epic fail.
This time, I don’t understand what happened. It almost seems like this particular section of the script was put into the teleprompter twice. Once you scroll through something, you don’t usually scroll back to previous text- especially since that text was at the beginning of the speech. Seems like there was duplicated text. May not have been the fault of the operator this time.
shibumi on April 27, 2009 at 6:03 PM
Hmmm…I thought “lol” meant “laughing out loud.” My apologies for misinterpreting your earlier comment as chuckling over the fact that Obama will steer us so far left that we’ll never see right again.
Dee2008 on April 27, 2009 at 6:06 PM
Viable research into Live Forever therapies can’t attract commercial interest on their own merit? Who are you kidding?
Scientists are making significant progress in non-embryonic stem cell research on a monthly or even weekly basis without direct federal funding. If anything, limiting federally-funded embryonic stem cell research seems to have promoted research into alternatives.
DarkCurrent on April 27, 2009 at 6:08 PM
Name one Republican President who you never criticized for using one, then we’ll talk.
Del Dolemonte on April 27, 2009 at 6:11 PM
That you’re referring to the President in the same way a television producer would refer to the actors is very telling of the kind of guy we elected.
TheMightyMonarch on April 27, 2009 at 6:12 PM
He’s a genius!
jdflorida on April 27, 2009 at 6:16 PM
That’s the new WaPo/ABC News “poll”, and it’s already been busted. Its internals show they heavily over-sampled Democrats and heavily under-sampled Republicans to get the results they wanted.
In fact their Republican sample was the lowest percentage of Repubs they’ve ever sampled in a poll. Josef Goebbels would be proud of them.
Del Dolemonte on April 27, 2009 at 6:18 PM
lol is actually sarcastic and bitter in this case.
see context. I am gloating now though.
hASCR has had fed funding for 3 years, on the lines that were started after Johns Hopkins solved MFC. I should hope the research is attractive now.
Consider Alzheimers. One half of all americans over 65 are at risk.
But Big Pharma has spent a lot of research money on acetylcholinesterase suppressants and NMDA blockers. They are now looking to recover those funds by selling drugs. They are not researching stem cell therapy for Alzheimers.
strangelet on April 27, 2009 at 6:18 PM
Having sat on stage behind Bush 43 during an event, he did not use a teleprompter. He had a few 3X5 note cards he seldom referred to. We know he used a TP for big speeches but it seems Obama can’t ask to go to the little boys’ room without a TP telling what words to use.
jnelchef on April 27, 2009 at 6:23 PM
I feel like i’m watching some Nervous Nelly sitting in their car at a stop sign whenever Obarfy steps up to the podium and reads his speech.
Anything coming this way? Nope. Anything the other way? Nope. And so on, and so on.
His delivery is just plain awful; robotic and boring.
…. yearns for Reagan
fogw on April 27, 2009 at 6:23 PM
strangelet:
For one thing, there is nothing stopping researchers from pursuing embryonic stem cell research if they want to do it. For another adult stem cell research has so far been much more successful in terms of actual treatments.
This is just something to hand money out for. You are making all kinds of promises without anything to back them up. Promising people that they will walk again and they will see again if only the bad conservatives give unlimited federal funding to embryonic stem cell research.
Bush was the first president who ever allowed federal funding on this research and then only on existing lines. Congress has passed seperate legislation limiting that funding as well.
Terrye on April 27, 2009 at 6:25 PM
Usually I dig AllahP.
But unfortunately for your core culture war positions, the people that disagree with Obama are all NON-scientists, while the ACTUAL scientists uniformly disagreed with GW.
Actually I’m pleased at how well this has turned out.
3% of GDP!!! Maybe we can get our own Large Hadron Supercollider in the states.
SCIENCE FTW!
strangelet on April 27, 2009 at 6:26 PM
Bush 43 did not use a teleprompter. I don’t think Clinton did either. I don’t remember Reagan using one. I don’t remember any president who had to have as much help as Obama.
Terrye on April 27, 2009 at 6:27 PM
Terrye on April 27, 2009 at 6:25 PM
1) the existing lines are useless
2) the only reason there are results from hASCR is fed funding
Scroll up dear and try not to be so dumb.
;)
strangelet on April 27, 2009 at 6:27 PM
Name for me one “Big Pharma” company that developed an “essential” drug solely because the government directed them to. I thought not.
As much as you might not want to hear it, all those billions of dollars made from erectile dysfunction drugs? Guess what, the majority of that goes right back into the research cycle.
A drug company’s pipeline is their lifeline. Out of those profits come the next generation of life-saving products, that…get ready for this…are PROFITABLE!!
All those cancer drugs, antivirals that slow or stop the progression of AIDS, life-saving antibiotics…the development of those products are somehow not motivated by ROI? Really?
Hey, here’s something that is going to blow your mind…
COMPANIES EXIST TO BE PROFITABLE. PROFITS EXIST TO EXPAND AND STRENGTHEN SAID COMPANIES.
I’m probably wasting this on your child-like understanding of capitalism, but hell…I like to see myself in writing.
TheMightyMonarch on April 27, 2009 at 6:28 PM
So strangelet, if federally funded research actually comes up with something that is usable: will the tax payers get a break on the treatment or will the big bad evil pharma companies that the Democrats are always b*tching about make a bunch of money on it at our expense?
Terrye on April 27, 2009 at 6:29 PM
Hillary Clinton
Stephen Macklin on April 27, 2009 at 6:29 PM
Well said… I don’t even consider myself a Christian… but I’m against Embryonic Stem Cell research on strictly Moral grounds…
Romeo13 on April 27, 2009 at 6:30 PM
strangelt:
You do not know what you are talking about. There is no ban on private institutions or companies creating new lines and doing their own research. And even if the lines that are being funded by the government are no longer usable, that is what the policy was originally all about: only using the lines that were already available. Congress itself passed legislation in 1996 to stop the government from giving additional to create new lines.
Obama might be oblivious to that legislation. It is not as if he knows what he is doing or anything.
Terrye on April 27, 2009 at 6:32 PM
And what results are there exactly? Has there actually been any real usable, safe treatment plans that have been created?
Terrye on April 27, 2009 at 6:35 PM
I’m unfamiliar with the acronyms highlighted. Can you please clarify?
DarkCurrent on April 27, 2009 at 6:41 PM
You mistake me. I am merely pointing out that private industry relies on federal funding to subsidize basic research that they later turn into capitalistic profits in true free market fashion. hASCR has enjoyed 3 years of fed funding, and is no beginning to look attractive to Big Pharma.
strangelet on April 27, 2009 at 6:41 PM
Just an add-on to my thoughts above.
A tiny fraction of molecules that come out of the billions of dollars drug companies spend on research make it past initial research (where you see the first signs that it may have a beneficial use).
Even fewer make it past initial safety trials.
Even fewer make it past pre-clinical efficacy trials.
Even fewer make it past the FDA.
Once it hits market, it still has to contend with unexpected side effects causing it to lose its FDA approval, or rival companies trying to sue away their patent rights.
It doesn’t matter how “essential” a drug is. If it can make it past the gauntlet of research and FDA scrutiny, it is going to be sold.
I don’t care if it’s a cure for cancer or a working baldness remedy, the drug company that owns it will sell the hell out of it.
First because it is the only way to recoup research costs, secondly because they only have a short amount of time to do so before the patent expires and the generic manufacturers get to reap all the remaining market share without having to spend the billions on development.
People who like to demonize Big Pharma have this notion that the drugs come out of thin air, and the evil executives that run them pocket every last dime of profit, laughing at their good fortune. It’s a simplistic view that unfortunately, many in our leadership seem to share.
TheMightyMonarch on April 27, 2009 at 6:43 PM
The idea that the only reason any progress was made is federal funding is ridiculous. There was nothing stopping private industry from funding it, they just preferred getting government financing to do it.
Terrye on April 27, 2009 at 6:43 PM
You have a strange definition of the word lie. Did President Bush allow funding for these lines? Does not matter how viable or not they are. He was the first president to do so.
coyoterex on April 27, 2009 at 6:44 PM
I am not demonizing big Pharma, I am pointing out that the Democrats spend a great deal of time treating those companies as if they were evil and greedy and yet, those same Democrats have no problem asking tax payers to fund their research for them.
Terrye on April 27, 2009 at 6:46 PM
hASCR – human Adult Stem Cell Research
MFC – Mouse Feeder Cell
Until 2006 when Johns Hopkins solved the mouse feeder cell contamination problem, ALL stem cell lines were useless for human research, because the stem cells were grown in media of mouse cells.
All human-useful stem cell lines (both ESCs and ASCs) date from 2006.
Because they had to be restarted clean.
The 21 lines that Bush approved were discovered to be unstable at regrowth.
And therefore useless without fresh tissue for a restart.
strangelet on April 27, 2009 at 6:48 PM
He allowed funding for human Embryonic Stem Cell Research.
Those lines were useless for human research.
Fine for mouse research though.
;)
strangelet on April 27, 2009 at 6:51 PM
Thanks. I still don’t understand why federal funding is required for embryonic stem cell research though.
DarkCurrent on April 27, 2009 at 6:53 PM
You’re a liar.
jdkchem on April 27, 2009 at 6:57 PM
Again you’re a liar.
jdkchem on April 27, 2009 at 6:59 PM
ouch. That one hurt a bit.
***
Also, why is every still feeding the Strangelet? I thought we all grew weary of her insecure self promotion? eh. I’m going car shopping…
Mommypundit on April 27, 2009 at 7:07 PM
I heard this on Rush today and saw the video.
What irks me the MOST is that there are people in the background going ‘HAHA’ when they should be going ‘BOO’.
OneConservative on April 27, 2009 at 7:19 PM
Private industry doesn’t rely on Washington for medical research. They rely on profits. The federal government couldn’t possibly collect the massive amounts of dollars required to bring drugs to market on a worldwide scale.
However, they do collect enough money to support a thriving lobbyist industry. That money is awarded based on political favors, not on an altruistic need to better mankind. Any money a company receives from the government will always carry with it stipulations and political ramifications. It is misappropriated capital.
Medical advances happen because there is always a market for it, not because of some serendipitous government grant. All government funding will do is attract those who are looking for a cut.
TheMightyMonarch on April 27, 2009 at 7:20 PM
I’m late to the show here, but that really made me LOL Bishop. Thanks!
IrishEi on April 27, 2009 at 7:23 PM
I hope Obama fails. I hope his administration is an epic fail!
CCRWM on April 27, 2009 at 7:28 PM
your silence regarding your leaders teleprompter use vs. Bush etc is deafening.
Jamson64 on April 27, 2009 at 7:28 PM
It’s called misdirection. You spend enough time bashing an industry and no one will notice that they’ve funded your last three reelection campaigns.
TheMightyMonarch on April 27, 2009 at 7:33 PM
Great comment – logic AND sarcasm, all at once!
massrighty on April 27, 2009 at 7:52 PM
What a puke.
RightWinged on April 27, 2009 at 7:52 PM
Funny!!!!!!
JellyToast on April 27, 2009 at 7:54 PM
Ahhh I miss Bush.
crabtree on April 27, 2009 at 7:55 PM
The gop, the anti-science party. The gop, the pro torture party. The gop, the old, white, male, deep south regional party. the gop, the Rush Limbaugh, Joe the Plumber, Newt Gingrich, Karl Rove party. The gop, the 21% of Americans identify as republicans, party. The gop, no new ideas party. The anti health insurance for everybody party. The gop, the lets protect the rich party. The gop, the lets become a party that slinks off into the political wilderness party. The gop, the lets have another tea party and call it grassroots when its not party. The gop, the all white party, the college professors are commies party. the gop, the nobody cares about it party.
athensboy on April 27, 2009 at 8:19 PM
Obama funds research project to find a way to use TOTUS when answering the phone.
BobMbx on April 27, 2009 at 8:26 PM
athensboy on April 27, 2009 at 8:19 PM
You forgot, the Alex Jones Party, the Info Warrior party, the Stormfront Party, the Glenn Beck party, the Tim McVeigh Party, the Rev. Paul Hill party, the Richard Poplawski party…in short…..the angry loozers party.
strangelet on April 27, 2009 at 8:30 PM
Thanks. I still don’t understand why federal funding is required for embryonic stem cell research though.
DarkCurrent on April 27, 2009 at 6:53 PM
ok…try this….i can be fair. ;)
Just give us back the fed funding that hASCR got for the last 3 years and we’ll call it even.
strangelet on April 27, 2009 at 8:39 PM
Bad science. Like ethanol. How many starved to death last year because The Goreacle said corn was our salvation?
Results. Lives saved. Terrorists should not be treated as a natural resource managed by game wardens and bag limits. This is not a catch-and-release program.
Hard working, moral, trustworthy, honorable. Boy Scout stuff.
Taxpayers, one and all. Vice the current Admins’ Cabinet.
If it was easy to be a conservative, everyone would be a conservative.
If it ain’t broke, don’t fix it.
We need more rich people. Not equal checking account balances.
Gathering strength. Never interrupt your opponent when he’s making a mistake.
When no argument stands the test of the movement, attack it with sexual inuendo. Use a lot of profane words to sound like an adult. I recommend Readers Digest on a monthly basis. (It’s a magazine, with words.)
Ad hominem. Say it to yourself enough and it’ll be true.
We care less about what you think of us than…erhh…what you think of us. One day, you’ll be working for me. Or someone like me. And you’ll still be complaining.
BobMbx on April 27, 2009 at 8:45 PM
athensboy, stanglet?
Why so bitter? I am sorry you are poor but why blame the GOP? Try your worthless parents, or should I say parent because I know most of you on the left don’t know who your “daddies” are.
DNC…the NAMBLA party. The end. I win.
ClassicCon on April 27, 2009 at 8:45 PM
Who is “us” – the money you speak of belongs to productive, taxpaying citizens. I’ve got a novel idea; answer the question that many asked you. Why is federal funding required; if this was a good idea, investors would be all over it.
massrighty on April 27, 2009 at 8:46 PM
“There are those who say left-handers should be tortured and burned publicly at the stake. I am not one of those people.”
Man, that straw-man trope of his is really getting old.
ddrintn on April 27, 2009 at 9:20 PM
Hey Strangelet, you never did answer what procedure you would use to replace waterboarding? You are the one collecting a Whirlewind when it comes to eternity when you make fun of creationists and but not sure but you make make fun of the Lord Himself at times. He did say He is coming soon and the GOP is not anti-science. Where do you come up with such stalinist remarks. You and Athensboy do not know the truth if it hit you straight in the head.
garydt on April 27, 2009 at 9:40 PM
Democrats:
-The “A little bit of Marxism can be good” party
-The “Never let a good crisis go to waste” party
-The “Bin Laden is building schools and day-care” party
-The “Bush is a Nazi” party
-The “The war is lost” party
-The “I voted for the war before I voted against it” party
-The “No crisis at Fannie and Freddie” party
-The “Buy out bad debt with new debt” party
-The “Bitter Americans clinging to their God and their guns” party
-The “God Damn America” party
-The “Tea Parties are racist” party
-The anti-free market party
-The anti-freedom party
-The Indoctrination, not education party
-The DMV-brand healthcare party
-The slavery party
-The anti-Civil Rights Act party
-The Class Warfare party
-The Generational Warfare party
-The Race Warfare party
-The party of hate.
TheMightyMonarch on April 27, 2009 at 9:48 PM
The simple fact is that IF ECS was such proven science, the private sector would be all over it. It’s not, so Obama wants to throw more of our money down the pit.
As far as the TOTUS, does it bother anyone that this President cannot speak with conviction, FOR ANYTHING? It seems to me he has no core, no heartfelt belief in anything EXCEPT…more government!
IYAAYAS on April 27, 2009 at 10:37 PM
“Since I don’t know what the hell I’m talking about, I have to wait for TOTUS to get back in gear before I’ll know what it is that I believe so fervently about this topic.”
Obooba w/o TOTUS.
Akzed on April 27, 2009 at 10:51 PM
Well stranglit, let’s put a few myths to rest here.
I personally disagree with Obama on a large number of his scientific policies based upon scientific principle and his embryonic human stem cell research on moral grounds.
Now, I have spent close to the last 30 years as an engineer and scientist, therefore your assertion is simply false. Many of the premises that the Obama administration is taking as science fact are fundamentally flawed and based more upon consensus and what is politically the most expedient to acquire research funding than upon scientific fact. I can’t speak to the stem cell issue scientifically because I have no experience in that field. However, I can absolutely state that the whole premise of human man-made climate change is complete bunk. I have extensive experience in modeling and simulation and it is apparent to anyone with that type of experience that the so-called models proving man-made climate change are both bogus, being fed by faulty, and/or doctored data and extrapolating results outside of the validated regions of the model.
So, while you may hold your views, don’t try to make some blanket statement that “all scientists support Obama and opposed GW and by implication, if you hold the opposite view, you are obviously uneducated luddites”
AZfederalist on April 27, 2009 at 11:04 PM
now that explains alot. The talking points / ghost written speech gone the hands go up and flail like a school girl.
I WANT MY PRESIDENT TO SPEAK FROM THE GUT WITH SOME HAND WRITTEN NOTES OR NOT EVEN THAT – how about some thorough research and an opinion? Not in this term I am afraid.
I am asking too much. sigh, wail, then weep for my Country.
I don’t think he has a clue what the hell he’s saying.
seesalrun on April 27, 2009 at 11:37 PM
QED. FAIL.
Give me a ref to a scientist that disagrees ON SCIENTIFIC GROUNDS.
Consensus fail on your “moral majority”.
At 21% you can’t tell n/e one what to research anymore.
Now just step on.
strangelet on April 28, 2009 at 7:30 AM
Polls are unreliable and fluctuating. Quit relying on them to form your childlike opinions.
Because a poll of a few thousand people says so, one out of five people no longer have a say on this issue. You’re not interested in debate, you’re interested in forcing silence on opposing viewpoints. The TOTUS would be proud.
Ever hear of tyranny of the majority? Might want to read up on it, because that’s exactly where we’re headed.
Step on what? The train to the “reeducation center”? What’s that smoke coming up out of the roof?
TheMightyMonarch on April 28, 2009 at 2:27 PM
Science without a moral foundation…sounds like a winning idea. Nothing bad could possibly come of that.
TheMightyMonarch on April 28, 2009 at 2:29 PM
He is so articulate and smart.
la.rt.wngr on April 28, 2009 at 2:39 PM
Someone forgot to pamper the Teleprompter again!
Chaz706 on April 28, 2009 at 2:52 PM
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