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Smart power: White House freaks out New York with low altitude fly-by; Video: Panicked NYers run in the streets; Update: Obama “furious”

posted at 5:00 pm on April 27, 2009 by Allahpundit
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I didn’t hear it this morning but I used to work in lower Manhattan and can assure you that workers these days are highly attuned to unusual air traffic in the area. Not a day has passed in seven-plus years, I think, that an airplane has flown low enough overhead that I could hear it, even just barely, and I didn’t look up. Just watching the video, I could feel the blood drain from my face.

Good work, Pentagon.

An Air Force One lookalike and two F-16s buzzed the Statue of Liberty in New York harbor this morning, halting work on nearby construction sites, causing resident and office workers to flee their high-rises and giving thousands of people in downtown Manhattan and New Jersey a major fright. At least two people were treated for minor injuries at Jersey City Medical Center after falling during the rush to exit their high-rises.

“Everybody panicked,” said Daisy Cooper, a Merrill Lynch worker in Jersey City, who lost a nephew on 9/11. “Everybody was screaming and we all ran downstairs. I’m devastated…Everybody was running, we didn’t know why we were running. We just knew it was a plane, there we go, 9/11 again.”…

A Pentagon official confirmed that while the Presidential Airlift Group, which is based out of Andrews Air Force Base, did inform the FAA and New York City officials about this morning’s aerial photo op. But they also told both agencies not to inform the public about it. The NYPD confirmed this.

Not sure how or why The One would be responsible for this, but since the left’s being extra-jerky with its fingerpointing today, feel free to put forth your theory in the comments of What This Tells Us About How Obama Views the World. Evidence of his pre-9/11 mentality? Proof of a narcissism so profound as to blind him to American fears? Suggestive of a military that’s out of control under his weak command? Go crazy!

Update: Looks like this did come from the White House after all.

White House Military Office director Louis Caldera issued a brief statement.

“Last week, I approved a mission over New York. I take responsibility for that decision,” he said. “While federal authorities took the proper steps to notify state and local authorities in New York and New Jersey, its clear that the mission created confusion and disruption. I apologize and take responsibility for any distress that flight caused.”…

An administration official said the Federal Aviation Administration was informed this would be taking places, and notified Mr. Bloomberg’s office on April 22.

The problem was the FAA was told the information was classified and did not alert the press to warn the public.

Follow the link for obligatory outrage from Bloomberg and Schumer, who’s blaming the FAA in order to cover Obama’s ass.

Update: Here’s the best clip yet of how horrifying this looked and sounded from the ground. Unbelievable.

Update: Changed the headline to emphasize that it was Team Barry, not the Pentagon, that blew this. He’s not happy about it, either:

When President Obama was told about the incident, he was “furious,” a White House official says.

Caldera was called into a meeting with White House chief of staff Rahm Emanuel and deputy chief of staff Jim Messina.

“It didn’t sound like a fun meeting,” the White House official says.


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The moron who authorized this should be fired.

LODGE4 on April 28, 2009 at 8:36 AM

Does AF-1 carry out any “mission” without WH approval?

muggedbyreality on April 28, 2009 at 9:22 AM

“This isn’t about terrorism. This isn’t about another attack on American soil killing thousands of innocent people. This is about a black man being in the White House. All those people screaming, crying, running away in terror — that’s racism straight-up.”

– Janeane Garofalo

JS on April 28, 2009 at 9:25 AM

I swear, if we’d elected a goldfish President we’d be better off today.

Merovign on April 28, 2009 at 12:06 AM

A goldfish, or a pet rock, would at least only commit errors of omission. Obama commits plenty of those, but also makes errors of comission with nearly everything he does.

hawksruleva on April 28, 2009 at 9:26 AM

Does AF-1 carry out any “mission” without WH approval?

muggedbyreality on April 28, 2009 at 9:22 AM

Yes. Here in Roanoke, Air Force One and Two come by on occasion to practice short field take-offs and landings. We’ve got mountains around our airport, so it’s a nice challenge for them. I’m sure Barry doesn’t approve each one of those training sessions.

hawksruleva on April 28, 2009 at 9:28 AM

Community Organizer Terrorizes Community.

thebookkeeper on April 28, 2009 at 9:30 AM

Is Caldera still employed this morning?

jediwebdude on April 28, 2009 at 9:32 AM

This had better be a RNC ad. This is representative of what lousy decisions are coming out of the WH. Big change! There is no “war on terror” because we use terror in the US to control our own.

Talk about unintended consequences. This one takes the cake. But it is only 100 days, it makes me fear (terror again) what’s next.

ORconservative on April 28, 2009 at 9:43 AM

I can’t decide which would be worse, firing Caldera or doing nothing.
Caldera would just be a fall guy, yet doing nothing underlines how self centered those assholes are.

ORconservative on April 28, 2009 at 9:45 AM

hawksruleva on April 28, 2009 at 9:28 AM

Well, obviously routine maintenance and training would go on without the WH getting involved. What went on yesterday was not in any way “routine”. What was the intended purpose of this “photo op”? What did PBO know and when did he know it?

muggedbyreality on April 28, 2009 at 9:45 AM

Then heads must roll at the Pres Airlift Group.

Next.

Dave Rywall on April 27, 2009 at 6:40 PM

If a private corporation had been responsible for something like this, would we be satisfied to learn some flunky six levels down the org chart had been fired, and congratulate the CEO for joining us in being “furious?” Of course not. We would not rest until the top executives responsible for green-lighting this idiotic stunt had been fired, and most likely brought up on criminal charges.

Let this be a “teachable moment” for anyone still foolish enough to believe the government should be running industries, financial institutions, or health care. When a private company does something stupid, wasteful, or dangerous, the government will step in to punish them, if the markets don’t get to them first. When the government does something stupid, you get a blizzard of evasions, lies, and perhaps a sacrificial flunky or two, before the government pronounces itself innocent – and having suffered nothing, learned nothing, and lost nothing, moves on to make the next terrible mistake.

What you’re seeing today is a taste of what you’ll get if you let these people seize control of your health care, and kill off your loved ones through rationing and substandard care: a statement carefully explaining they did nothing wrong, followed by a desperate attempt to change the subject, perhaps capped off with a faceless, expendable functionary going under the bus. If you’re not satisfied with that, a gang of apparatchiks will turn up on blogs and media interviews, and begin wondering what the hell is wrong with you.

Doctor Zero on April 28, 2009 at 9:46 AM

– Janeane Garofalo

JS on April 28, 2009 at 9:25 AM

The left has truly gone off the deep end.

Johan Klaus on April 28, 2009 at 9:50 AM

idiOtic

Elizabetty on April 28, 2009 at 9:54 AM

This is one time he SHOULD apologize…and he won’t. and the left accused Bush of arrogance

Bevan on April 28, 2009 at 9:59 AM

The problem was the FAA was told the information was classified and did not alert the press to warn the public.

So this wonderful Administration de-classifies information on the limits of enhanced interrogation techniques, telling our enemies exactly what they need to endure to avoid spilling the beans on terror attacks, but if the President’s plane and two military fighters fly low over a frightened city, it’s such a big secret that they can’t reassure anxious New Yorkers?

Reassure the terrorists, frighten our own people needlessly. Nice job, ZerObama.

Besides, what WAS the point of a low flight over the Statue of Liberty?

It’s a bird! It’s a plane! It’s StupidMan!

Steve Z on April 28, 2009 at 9:59 AM

Have you seen the price of corn lately? Those chips can get a mite spendy, especially in Soho.

Bishop on April 28, 2009 at 12:35 AM

Hey, buy a bag for emergency kindling. Fritos are one of the best fire-starters around.

Don’t believe me? Next time you are BBQing, try throwing one into the flames and see what happens.

Del Dolemonte on April 28, 2009 at 10:02 AM

Um, I have a question: Why go to all the trouble of flying a jet through New York if all they wanted was a photo op?

Doesn’t the Federal government have PhotoShop?

Paul_in_NJ on April 28, 2009 at 10:03 AM

Doesn’t the Federal government have PhotoShop?

Paul_in_NJ on April 28, 2009 at 10:03 AM

They keepin’ it real, yo.

carbon_footprint on April 28, 2009 at 10:08 AM

Question:
Could the photos taken of Air Force One over Lower Manhattan yesterday be considered torture photos?

Seeing how the people reacted they should be. Will Prompterbama release these torture photos like the 200 he is intending to release to embarrass the Bush Administration?

I wonder what the TOTUS thinks?

Atlanta Media Guy on April 28, 2009 at 10:21 AM

Question:
Could the photos taken of Air Force One over Lower Manhattan yesterday be considered torture photos?

Seeing how the people reacted they should be. Will Prompterbama release these torture photos like the 200 he is intending to release to embarrass the Bush Administration?

I wonder what the TOTUS thinks?

Atlanta Media Guy on April 28, 2009 at 10:21 AM
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You post is torture.

Dave Rywall on April 28, 2009 at 10:23 AM

Speaking of Janeane Garofalo, did anyone else appreciate her character getting smacked down by Jack on 24 last night? Sweet …

sannhet on April 28, 2009 at 10:26 AM

If a private corporation had been responsible for something like this, would we be satisfied to learn some flunky six levels down the org chart had been fired, and congratulate the CEO for joining us in being “furious?” Of course not. We would not rest until the top executives responsible for green-lighting this idiotic stunt had been fired, and most likely brought up on criminal charges.

Let this be a “teachable moment” for anyone still foolish enough to believe the government should be running industries, financial institutions, or health care. When a private company does something stupid, wasteful, or dangerous, the government will step in to punish them, if the markets don’t get to them first. When the government does something stupid, you get a blizzard of evasions, lies, and perhaps a sacrificial flunky or two, before the government pronounces itself innocent – and having suffered nothing, learned nothing, and lost nothing, moves on to make the next terrible mistake.

What you’re seeing today is a taste of what you’ll get if you let these people seize control of your health care, and kill off your loved ones through rationing and substandard care: a statement carefully explaining they did nothing wrong, followed by a desperate attempt to change the subject, perhaps capped off with a faceless, expendable functionary going under the bus. If you’re not satisfied with that, a gang of apparatchiks will turn up on blogs and media interviews, and begin wondering what the hell is wrong with you.

Doctor Zero on April 28, 2009 at 9:46 AM
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That’s a lot of incoherent crybabying you did there.

Criminal charges? Ha.

The appropriate heads will roll and the sun will come up tomorrow.

Dave Rywall on April 28, 2009 at 10:26 AM

So, they wanted a picture of 0’s new ride with the Statue of Liberty in the background because it would look really cool on the website?

Question: Have the geniuses running out country really never heard of Photoshop? An eigth-grader with a Mac could have produced the picture they wanted in about 10 minutes.

Another question: How many injuries and heart attacks occurred among the people scrambling to get out of tall buildings, thinking their lives were in danger?

iurockhead on April 28, 2009 at 10:28 AM

Um, I have a question: Why go to all the trouble of flying a jet through New York if all they wanted was a photo op?

Doesn’t the Federal government have PhotoShop?

Paul_in_NJ on April 28, 2009 at 10:03 AM

Sorry, I should read previous comments before jumping in. Still a good question.

iurockhead on April 28, 2009 at 10:29 AM

If there is a mountain out there of incompetency and insensitivity, this WH has summited and planted its flag…I have friends working in the downtown Jersey City area (480 Washington Blvd. Cushman Wakefield/UBS building to be exact)who were evacuated from their offices. They said an old guy had to be hospitalized for having a heart attack. Totally disgusted…Caldera should lose his job and the prez should apologize like he really means it.

RepubChica on April 28, 2009 at 10:33 AM

You know, I saw this yesterday and thought it was just stunning. I watched the video and my jaw dropped to the floor at who could have been soooooo ignorant and insensitive to have thought this was a good idea. My second thought was that it was just another example of the administration’s arrogance. I decided that maybe I wouldn’t rush to judgment and give them the benefit of a doubt. Now, surprise, surprise, it came perhaps not from the Arrogant One himself, but within the walls of his administration. You can’t just apologize for something that stupid. I don’t even live in New York, never have, but it’s an outrage to me regardless.

scalleywag on April 28, 2009 at 10:37 AM

They said an old guy had to be hospitalized for having a heart attack. Totally disgusted…Caldera should lose his job and the prez should apologize like he really means it.

RepubChica on April 28, 2009 at 10:33 AM

This needs to be picked up by the media.
I also read rumors of pregnant women having to be taken away via ambulance.
This story should not be allowed to fade away.

carbon_footprint on April 28, 2009 at 10:38 AM

The appropriate heads will roll and the sun will come up tomorrow.

Dave Rywall on April 28, 2009 at 10:26 AM

No. Some fall guy’s head will roll, and you know it.

BadgerHawk on April 28, 2009 at 10:38 AM

Doesn’t the Federal government have PhotoShop?

Paul_in_NJ on April 28, 2009 at 10:03 AM

Sorry, I should read previous comments before jumping in. Still a good question.

An excellent question. But that would require using common sense. Why create a computer generated photo when you can go for a joy flight around Manhattan endangering and horrifying thousands of citizens, not to mention spending thousands on fuel? Mind boggling. Now we can not only never forget 9/11, we can always remember the idiots who did this.

scalleywag on April 28, 2009 at 10:46 AM

Doesn’t the Federal government have PhotoShop?

Paul_in_NJ on April 28, 2009 at 10:03 AM

As a caller on Howie Carr’s show said yesterday – you have photos of AF-1. You have photos of the Statue of Liberty. You have Photoshop. Use them!

crazy_legs on April 28, 2009 at 10:46 AM

As my wife, who is not a news junkie, said this morning…..why does Obama think we need a flyby of NY to remind us of the war on terror? I thought the wars in Iraq and Afghanistan were doing that?

To the layman the logical conclusion would be that ChimpyO was trying to remind us that 9/11 really, really did happen.

And it also exposes the mentality of ChimpyO and his ilk on the left. They actually pull stunts like this because they ignore the threat, and realities in general, because it gets in the way of their Marxist Utopian dream.

This is the proof that liberals are psychologically damaged.

csdeven on April 28, 2009 at 10:46 AM

Sorry, I should read previous comments before jumping in. Still a good question.

iurockhead on April 28, 2009 at 10:29 AM

Never apologize. You shouldn’t have to wade through the liberal trolls tripe before making an excellent point.

csdeven on April 28, 2009 at 10:49 AM

Someone above mentioned that this was done to film new stock footage of AF1 flying over national monuments that were filmed long time ago. Well that makes sense. I’m sure the old footage of the Statue of Liberty has two pesky tall buildings in the background that the white house doesn’t want to remind anyone of.

AverageJoe on April 28, 2009 at 10:49 AM

No. Some fall guy’s head will roll, and you know it.

BadgerHawk on April 28, 2009 at 10:38 AM
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I hope not.
Obama is super pissed.
He knows he has to put the hammer down.

Dave Rywall on April 28, 2009 at 10:54 AM

As a caller on Howie Carr’s show said yesterday – you have photos of AF-1. You have photos of the Statue of Liberty. You have Photoshop. Use them!

crazy_legs on April 28, 2009 at 10:46 AM
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These calls for hey they could use photoshop are ludicrous.

Dave Rywall on April 28, 2009 at 10:55 AM

Someone above mentioned that this was done to film new stock footage of AF1 flying over national monuments that were filmed long time ago. Well that makes sense. I’m sure the old footage of the Statue of Liberty has two pesky tall buildings in the background that the white house doesn’t want to remind anyone of.

AverageJoe on April 28, 2009 at 10:49 AM
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I bet this project has been on the schedule for many years and it just happened to come up now in April of 09.

Annnnnnd people screaming Bush would never have let this clusterf*ck will happen in 3…2…1…

Dave Rywall on April 28, 2009 at 10:58 AM

The funny thing is had the public been told about the fly bys well in advance then people would have actually come out in droves to takes photos and videos and it would have been a positive experience all around.

I wonder what the stupid reasoning behind keeping it secret could possibly have been.

Dave Rywall on April 28, 2009 at 11:01 AM

I bet this project has been on the schedule for many years and it just happened to come up now in April of 09.

Dave Rywall on April 28, 2009 at 10:58 AM

I bet you have absolutely NO proof of this and that you are just trying to spin very hard for Obamamessiah

NoFanofLibs on April 28, 2009 at 11:11 AM

These calls for hey they could use photoshop are ludicrous.

Why? What’s so ludicrous about using a software tool so as to not terrorize Manhattan and New Jersey if they wanted to keep it so secret?

crazy_legs on April 28, 2009 at 11:18 AM

Doesn’t the Federal government have PhotoShop?

Paul_in_NJ on April 28, 2009 at 10:03 AM
As a caller on Howie Carr’s show said yesterday – you have photos of AF-1. You have photos of the Statue of Liberty. You have Photoshop. Use them!

crazy_legs on April 28, 2009 at 10:46 AM

Do you think the WH will photoshop out the screaming crowds on the ground, or leave them in? Obama’s personal copy may leave them in, and then he will autograph them and give them out to the world leaders who are thinking that Obama is the most flaccid leader they have ever met, to show them just how tough he really is. Even Kim Jong Il or Ahmadinijad can’t make thousands run screaming through their streets.

caygeon on April 28, 2009 at 11:18 AM

Wow … people are still that scared? That’s pretty sad all by itself. Or did it really look that bad? Do people feel less secure under the Obama administration, or was the harm to the psyche of New York in general greater than I had realized?

TheUnrepentantGeek on April 28, 2009 at 11:20 AM

I bet this project has been on the schedule for many years and it just happened to come up now in April of 09.

Dave Rywall on April 28, 2009 at 10:58 AM

This may also be because the previous white house weighed the need for more stock footage against the sensitivities of New Yorkers still traumatized by 9/11, and choose (rightly) not to approve the mission.

AverageJoe on April 28, 2009 at 11:20 AM

The funny thing is had the public been told about the fly bys well in advance then people would have actually come out in droves to takes photos and videos and it would have been a positive experience all around…

Dave Rywall on April 28, 2009 at 11:01 AM

Very true. An amazingly gorgeous, summer-like and clear day, too. Hooky weather…no one wanted to be at work for sure…lol.

RepubChica on April 28, 2009 at 11:24 AM

An amazingly gorgeous, summer-like and clear day, too. Hooky weather…no one wanted to be at work for sure…lol.

Yeah… kind of like the weather on 9/11/01.

crazy_legs on April 28, 2009 at 11:28 AM

RepubChica on April 28, 2009 at 11:24 AM

Why do people respond to that donkey shit eating ignorant sack of shit? He is less relevant as a piece of dog shit that shows up on my front lawn and I would never argue with it. I would simply scoop it up and put it in the trash.

csdeven on April 28, 2009 at 11:29 AM

These calls for hey they could use photoshop are ludicrous.

Dave Rywall on April 28, 2009 at 10:55 AM

So, in an era of skyrocketing government debt… and the economy in the tank…

Its a good idea to fly an empty plane around for a PHOTO OP?

Not to mention the amount of CO2 that Photo Op put into the air (for those who care about that type of thing)…

Don’t you see the absurdity of this?

Romeo13 on April 28, 2009 at 11:31 AM

That’s a lot of incoherent crybabying you did there.

Criminal charges? Ha.

The appropriate heads will roll and the sun will come up tomorrow.

Dave Rywall on April 28, 2009 at 10:26 AM

Another brilliant rebuttal from Drywall. Come one Dave, you’re not that dense. This is a cheap evasion.

There’s an obvious criticism there of the underlying nature of government bureaucracies. If you can’t deal with the substance of a post at least say something funny.

TheUnrepentantGeek on April 28, 2009 at 11:33 AM

I bet you have absolutely NO proof of this and that you are just trying to spin very hard for Obamamessiah

NoFanofLibs on April 28, 2009 at 11:11 AM
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I don’t have proof, bozo.

That’s why I said “I bet”, bozo.

I’ve spun nothing, bozo.

This is a huge fu*k up and I’ve called for the appropriate heads to roll, bozo.

Bye bye now.

Dave Rywall on April 28, 2009 at 11:33 AM

Yeah… kind of like the weather on 9/11/01.

crazy_legs on April 28, 2009 at 11:28 AM

=(

csdeven on April 28, 2009 at 11:29 AM

I’m totally not arguing with him–too freakin’ nice out today to get my blood pressure up re political crapola….speaking of which, time to go work on my tan.

RepubChica on April 28, 2009 at 11:35 AM

The most computer literate administration doesn’t know how to photoshop.

I’m in awe.

PappaMac on April 28, 2009 at 11:36 AM

The appropriate heads will roll and the sun will come up tomorrow.

Dave Rywall on April 28, 2009 at 10:26 AM

Prediction, no one will be fired over this… heads will not roll…

They will just wait out the every shortening news cycle, and it will go away, buried under Flu Scare stories, and the latest Idol gossip.

Romeo13 on April 28, 2009 at 11:36 AM

Why? What’s so ludicrous about using a software tool so as to not terrorize Manhattan and New Jersey if they wanted to keep it so secret?

crazy_legs on April 28, 2009 at 11:18 AM
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You don’t know much about photoshop do you.

Had the public been properly informed about this, then there would have been no “terrorizing” of anybody and everybody would have liked it and it would have been a feel good story at the end of all newscasts. Except, of course, here (where you would have complained) and Al Gore’s a$$.

Dave Rywall on April 28, 2009 at 11:36 AM

This may also be because the previous white house weighed the need for more stock footage against the sensitivities of New Yorkers still traumatized by 9/11, and choose (rightly) not to approve the mission.

AverageJoe on April 28, 2009 at 11:20 AM
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That is completely and entirely possible.

But in my opinion, unlikely. I still think it was a “hey 10 years have gone by we need new footage” make work project.

Dave Rywall on April 28, 2009 at 11:38 AM

Yeah… kind of like the weather on 9/11/01.

crazy_legs on April 28, 2009 at 11:28 AM
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OMG OMG BAN SUNNY DAYS

QUICK SOMEBODY REEDIT THE 1970’s KING KONG MOVIE SO CRAZY LEGS DOESN’T CRY

Dave Rywall on April 28, 2009 at 11:40 AM

Are we paying for NOT ONLY the fuel to carry this joker to press conferences, but a PR campaign for the planes TOO? He sure likes to spend our money.

marklmail on April 28, 2009 at 11:40 AM

You don’t know much about photoshop do you.

You don’t know much about me, do you? I actually agree with you that the public should’ve been informed. What I was saying (if you’ll take the time to actually read my freaking post) was that if they had to keep it a secret why waste the time and money (and terrorize the populace)?

If they didn’t have to keep it so hush-hush, then why did they go out of their way to tell the FAA to not tell anyone?

Answer those questions for me, smartass.

crazy_legs on April 28, 2009 at 11:41 AM

I still think it was a “hey 10 years have gone by we need new footage” make work project.

Dave Rywall on April 28, 2009 at 11:38 AM

Happens all the time in government. Especially when no one cares how you spend your money because they give you a budget and go right back to campaigning.

And yet, they should run healthcare. Brilliant.

TheUnrepentantGeek on April 28, 2009 at 11:43 AM

Caldera will be promoted to president of GM…

Beckham on April 28, 2009 at 11:45 AM

So, in an era of skyrocketing government debt… and the economy in the tank…

Its a good idea to fly an empty plane around for a PHOTO OP?

Not to mention the amount of CO2 that Photo Op put into the air (for those who care about that type of thing)…

Don’t you see the absurdity of this?

Romeo13 on April 28, 2009 at 11:31 AM
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Your government has filmed crap like this since the invention of moving film. You’re going to have to get over it.

As for the pollution, well, that’t hte cost of doin’ business. Go spoon with AL Gore or something.

Dave Rywall on April 28, 2009 at 11:45 AM

Dave Rywall on April 28, 2009 at 11:40 AM

Do you work hard at being an a–hole or does it come naturally?

Again, please take my post in context. I’ll go slow so you can keep up.

1) Sunny day, clear sky.
2) Jumbo jet liner flying low. Over where 9/11 happened.
3) What do you expect to happen?

You’re really good at taking things out of context, Drywall (typical lib). Even when people generally agree with you, you feel the need to be a jerk.

crazy_legs on April 28, 2009 at 11:46 AM

speaking of which, time to go work on my tan.

RepubChica on April 28, 2009 at 11:35 AM

Not me. Global warming was killing us with snow yesterday.

csdeven on April 28, 2009 at 11:47 AM

Another brilliant rebuttal from Drywall. Come one Dave, you’re not that dense. This is a cheap evasion.

There’s an obvious criticism there of the underlying nature of government bureaucracies. If you can’t deal with the substance of a post at least say something funny.

TheUnrepentantGeek on April 28, 2009 at 11:33 AM
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Oh it is indeed ridiculous how much money your government has spent to get footage of Air Force 1. Perhaps the voters should make their problem with this known to their elected officials.

Dave Rywall on April 28, 2009 at 11:47 AM

And I’m still waiting for you to answer my first question – what’s so ludicrous about Photoshopping AF-1 and the Statue of Liberty together?

crazy_legs on April 28, 2009 at 11:47 AM

You would have thought that President Effeciency would have had those photo’s taken during, say the 40 or so hours that Air Force One was in the air on the way to and from Europe, Turkey, Iraq, Mexico, etc. in the last two weeks.

To use a phrase that is all the rage:

This was a stupid decision by a stupid administration…’straight up’!

PappaMac on April 28, 2009 at 11:48 AM

I heard Obama is going to put spinning rims on AF1. True?

marklmail on April 28, 2009 at 11:48 AM

You don’t know much about me, do you? I actually agree with you that the public should’ve been informed. What I was saying (if you’ll take the time to actually read my freaking post) was that if they had to keep it a secret why waste the time and money (and terrorize the populace)?

If they didn’t have to keep it so hush-hush, then why did they go out of their way to tell the FAA to not tell anyone?

Answer those questions for me, smartass.

crazy_legs on April 28, 2009 at 11:41 AM
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I have no idea why they thought they had to keep it secret.
I think amazing incompetence led to that decision.
It should be mocked from here to the moon until someone fairly high up is fired.

Dave Rywall on April 28, 2009 at 11:49 AM

Happens all the time in government. Especially when no one cares how you spend your money because they give you a budget and go right back to campaigning.

And yet, they should run healthcare. Brilliant.

TheUnrepentantGeek on April 28, 2009 at 11:43 AM
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As long as your (entirely justified) outrage with government waste is as strong when a Republican is POTUS.

Dave Rywall on April 28, 2009 at 11:51 AM

Your government has filmed crap like this since the invention of moving film. You’re going to have to get over it.

As for the pollution, well, that’t hte cost of doin’ business. Go spoon with AL Gore or something.

Dave Rywall on April 28, 2009 at 11:45 AM

Ah, the Liberal telling the Conservative to “get over it” when it comes to fiscal sanity…

How… predictable…

As to the Global Warming, its YOUR folks who are pushing this whole CO2 thing… even at this moment in Congress… but I guess you are OK with blatant Hypocracy as long as its coming from the side of the Annointed One!

/shakes his head and wanders out of the thread…. just wasting my time here….

Romeo13 on April 28, 2009 at 11:52 AM

I think amazing incompetence led to that decision.

See… we agree on something. The amazing incompetance you’re talking about is evident in all levels of this amateur hour administration – all the way to the top. So personally, I’m not all that surprised that something like this happened.

crazy_legs on April 28, 2009 at 11:53 AM

As for the pollution, well, that’t hte cost of doin’ business. Go spoon with AL Gore or something.

Dave Rywall on April 28, 2009 at 11:45 AM

It is called spell check.

Johan Klaus on April 28, 2009 at 11:53 AM

Emmanuel knew about this stunt, at the least, and OK’d it, at the most.

PappaMac on April 28, 2009 at 11:54 AM

As I said on another thread:

And we were told Bush was “out of touch.”

blatantblue on April 28, 2009 at 11:55 AM

/shakes his head and wanders out of the thread…. just wasting my time here….

You and me both. I’ve gotta get back to work…

crazy_legs on April 28, 2009 at 11:55 AM

Emmanuel knew about this stunt, at the least, and OK’d it, at the most.

PappaMac on April 28, 2009 at 11:54 AM

“Say it ain’t so Joe”.

Johan Klaus on April 28, 2009 at 11:56 AM

Whether folks usually watch that show or not, be certain to tune in and make a political statement to the damned bean counter satellites.

maverick muse on April 27, 2009 at 5:18 PM

Unfortunately, “Lie to Me” is one of the more–needlessly!–cloyingly liberal shows out there. Which is a shame, as I like Tim Roth. It’s not quite as aggregious as “Cold Case” in terms of out-of-the-blue liberal dialogue, stereotypes and plot points, but it’s in a similar vein.

Blacklake on April 28, 2009 at 11:56 AM

1) Sunny day, clear sky.
2) Jumbo jet liner flying low. Over where 9/11 happened.
3) What do you expect to happen?

You’re really good at taking things out of context, Drywall (typical lib). Even when people generally agree with you, you feel the need to be a jerk.

crazy_legs on April 28, 2009 at 11:46 AM
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If a low flying plane buzzes around NYC
the LAST thing on people’s minds
will be the freaking weather conditions
in the sky and if those weather conditions match up to 9/11.

Your suggestion that the sunny sky is somehow a harbinger of another 9/11 is beyond ludicrous. The plane is the thing and the only thing.

Dave Rywall on April 28, 2009 at 11:59 AM

And I’m still waiting for you to answer my first question – what’s so ludicrous about Photoshopping AF-1 and the Statue of Liberty together?

crazy_legs on April 28, 2009 at 11:47 AM
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It is ludicrous because there are these things called scale and perspective and lighting and angles and other magical things about compositing images together.

Dave Rywall on April 28, 2009 at 12:01 PM

And I will have zero sympathy.

angryed on April 28, 2009 at 8:03 AM

Will you have any for the millions of Americans who didn’t vote for President Obama, but who’s retirements will be crushed in the wake of an economic collapse following a major terrorsit attack?

BadgerHawk on April 28, 2009 at 8:51 AM

Well first off, everyone’s retirement accounts have already been cut in 1/2, that is if you believed your so-called expert financial adviser and invested in US stocks over the past 2 years. If you’re invested in stocks, there is always a risk. Don’t like risk, get a CD. Third, were retirements crushed after 9/11? For about a week or two. The bull market of the mid 00s started less than a year after 9/11. In the grand scheme of things, 9/11 was almost a non-event as far as retirement funds go.

angryed on April 28, 2009 at 12:02 PM

Community Organizer Terrorizes Community.

thebookkeeper on April 28, 2009 at 9:30 AM

Good one! LOL!

To all you Leftists yahoos trying to justify this and claim we of the GOP stripe DID NOT object to Republican waste; blow it out your asses! We for the most part, and in large number, screamed our heads off about Bush over spending, and the wasteful moves of ALL Congressmen acting irresponsible with OUR money. You just could not hear us for all the LEFTIST MSLSD types drowning out our voices. See WE on the Right are not as biased and lunatic like as most of the Left. I give you as an example, all of the KOS and those like Janine Garroffalo. We are not THAT one sided and we call a spade, a spade no matter WHO it is. Which is why we have principles and the extreme Leftists are just in it for themselves and without principles.

I would like to also see the manifest of WHO was on this plane while scaring the hell out of everyone. And I hear Caldera was Secretary of the Army under Clinton. He should have known better!

freeus on April 28, 2009 at 12:02 PM

If nothing happens beyond Louis Caldera’s apology for approving the mission, and we get no info about who asked for it and why, then we know someone “important” was involved in the decision making. (BTW, “Caldera” is a “pot for boiling” or a “cauldron” in Spanish. I don’t know why, but that makes me smile.)

AverageJoe on April 28, 2009 at 12:04 PM

OHHHHHHHHHHH
MYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYY
God!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


Arlen Specter Switching Parties Today?

by Human Events
04/28/2009
http://www.humanevents.com/article.php?id=31639

HUMAN EVENTS has learned from staff sources that Sen. Arlen Specter (R-Pa) is about to announce his switch to the Democratic Party

Baxter Greene on April 28, 2009 at 12:04 PM

It is ludicrous because there are these things called scale and perspective and lighting and angles and other magical things about compositing images together.

Dave Rywall on April 28, 2009 at 12:01 PM

You realize that these things are also able to be edited? Look at some of the work coming out of special effects studios today. A decent photoshop artist can make an image that is virtually indistinguishable from a real image.

coyoterex on April 28, 2009 at 12:04 PM

Baxter Greene on April 28, 2009 at 12:04 PM

His conscience should be better; he has always been a Democrat.

carbon_footprint on April 28, 2009 at 12:05 PM

Ah, the Liberal telling the Conservative to “get over it” when it comes to fiscal sanity…

How… predictable…

As to the Global Warming, its YOUR folks who are pushing this whole CO2 thing… even at this moment in Congress… but I guess you are OK with blatant Hypocracy as long as its coming from the side of the Annointed One!

/shakes his head and wanders out of the thread…. just wasting my time here….

Romeo13 on April 28, 2009 at 11:52 AM
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Do you believe all past POTUS administrations have wasted taxpayer money filming AF-1? Or just this one? you see, that would actually be hypocrisy.

I begrudgingly accept the need to have the footage. It annoys me, but hey waddayagonna do. So no, there is no blatant hypocrisy here. Sorry to pi$$ on your gotcha parade.

Dave Rywall on April 28, 2009 at 12:05 PM

Why do people respond to that donkey shit eating ignorant sack of shit? He is less relevant as a piece of dog shit that shows up on my front lawn and I would never argue with it. I would simply scoop it up and put it in the trash.

csdeven on April 28, 2009 at 11:29 AM

Dave’s not without his uses. He’s a good example of the perfect serf – the kind of unquestioning, credulous subject that every absolute ruler loves to have. His remarkably low standards for the man who would claim total power and control over the entire U.S. economy illustrate how some people just haven’t thought the whole socialism / fascism model through. He’s also deposited a series of posts in the last hour that summarize the various spins Obamabots will use to excuse the Dear Leader, none of which should be terribly comforting in light of the economic and legal power Obama believes he is entitled to claim…

Obama is helpless and ignorant:

I bet this project has been on the schedule for many years and it just happened to come up now in April of 09.

Annnnnnd people screaming Bush would never have let this clusterf*ck will happen in 3…2…1…

Dave Rywall on April 28, 2009 at 10:58 AM

It’s very reassuring to know the man who thinks he can run billion-dollar corporations out of the White House is helpless to interfere with something involving his personal aircraft, which might have been “on the schedule for many years”. Once again, witness the awesome power of George W. Bush, who can fill the skies of Manhattan with jumbo jets and F-16s, four months after he left office!

Obama is a primitive with no understanding of advanced technology:

These calls for hey they could use photoshop are ludicrous.

Dave Rywall on April 28, 2009 at 10:55 AM

It certainly is ludicrous to expect the White House to have access to the same software as the people who run LOLCatx. Much better to blow a couple million dollars on a live flyby of New York for some fresh photos.

Obama is a an irresponsible child:

I hope not.
Obama is super pissed.
He knows he has to put the hammer down.

Dave Rywall on April 28, 2009 at 10:54 AM

On who? His reflection in the mirror? His teleprompter? Michelle? If he’s not directly responsible for his personal aircraft, why is it a good idea to let him take power over the entire economic system? It’s great to know that if the government doctors of socialized health care make a mistake that kills me, or the government-controlled auto companies blow a few billion more dollars with stupid business decisions, Obama will be “super pissed” about it. By the way, has anyone calculated the value of the lost productivity during the panicked building evacuations yesterday? I’m sure Our Lord and Savior of the Economy will want to know that figure. Then he’ll be super SUPER pissed!

Obama is above criticism, and pointing out his mistakes is a sin:

That’s a lot of incoherent crybabying you did there.

Criminal charges? Ha.

The appropriate heads will roll and the sun will come up tomorrow.

Dave Rywall on April 28, 2009 at 10:26 AM

You know, that really puts it all in perspective, doesn’t it? After the terrorists Obama released into the public commit their next murders, there’s no point in crybabying… the sun will come up tomorrow, after all. And when the economy collapses under his trillions of dollars in deficit spending? The sun won’t care. It’ll just keep rolling right along. And if you’re a liberal who’s upset about Cheney McBushhitlerburton torturing those poor, innocent terrorists, you should relax and remember the sun came up the day after we slapped that wet towel on Khalid Sheikh Mohammed’s face. Just accept that your government overlords are above piddling concerns like “criminal charges” – those are only for you, peasants. Bet your bottom dollar that the sun will come out tomorrow!

Doctor Zero on April 28, 2009 at 12:06 PM

Well first off, everyone’s retirement accounts have already been cut in 1/2, that is if you believed your so-called expert financial adviser and invested in US stocks over the past 2 years. If you’re invested in stocks, there is always a risk. Don’t like risk, get a CD. Third, were retirements crushed after 9/11? For about a week or two. The bull market of the mid 00s started less than a year after 9/11. In the grand scheme of things, 9/11 was almost a non-event as far as retirement funds go.

angryed on April 28, 2009 at 12:02 PM
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Shhhh – stop making sense.

Dave Rywall on April 28, 2009 at 12:06 PM

Leave it to Chucky Schumer to blame the FAA when the call came from The White House. The guy couldn’t tell you what he had for breakfast without dissembling, distorting, or flat-out lying.

Blacklake on April 28, 2009 at 12:07 PM

Seen at Ace’s:

The Witch-King of Angmar circles over New York.

baldilocks on April 28, 2009 at 12:07 PM

HUMAN EVENTS has learned from staff sources that Sen. Arlen Specter (R-Pa) is about to announce his switch to the Democratic Party

Baxter Greene on April 28, 2009 at 12:04 PM
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If so then there should be an immediate election and he should have to re-win his constituents’ support.

Dave Rywall on April 28, 2009 at 12:08 PM

You realize that these things are also able to be edited? Look at some of the work coming out of special effects studios today. A decent photoshop artist can make an image that is virtually indistinguishable from a real image.

coyoterex on April 28, 2009 at 12:04 PM
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They weren’t just shooting stills.

Dave Rywall on April 28, 2009 at 12:11 PM

update:

Jack Tapper is ABC News’ Senior White House Correspondent based in the network’s Washington bureau. He writes about politics and popular culture and covers a range of national stories.

[Jack Tapper, a] White House official tells ABC News that President Obama was “furious” to hear about the incident this morning when Air Force One and Air Force fighter jets appeared to be flying into the Manhattan skyline, scaring many New Yorkers into thinking they were about to face another terrorist attack.

An explanation was forthcoming in a mea culpa statement issued from the White House.

“Last week, I approved a mission over New York,” Louis Caldera, director of the White House military office, said. “I take responsibility for that decision. While federal authorities took the proper steps to notify state and local authorities in New York and New Jersey, it’s clear that the mission created confusion and disruption. I apologize and take responsibility for any distress that flight caused.

Typical non-apology, sorry he got his ass fried.

Caldera lies, effectively blaming the state and local authorities in NY and NJ whom he claims that federal authorities notified. The NYC Mayor was not notified.

The Military never break protocol unless under direct orders from the President. No one takes an Airforce One for a flight over NYC without the consent of the presidency that includes Homeland Security Napolitano official approval. Obama is furious because his ass in the sky was not worshiped by the public who found his obsession with excess abhorrent. This presidency’s motive is to make the public take offense of “right wing military” personnel.

maverick muse on April 28, 2009 at 12:12 PM

They weren’t just shooting stills.

Dave Rywall on April 28, 2009 at 12:11 PM

Then talk to Industrial Light and Magic. Wonder what the cost effectiveness would be to hire them vs the cost of flying the plane over NYC?

coyoterex on April 28, 2009 at 12:16 PM

HUMAN EVENTS has learned from staff sources that Sen. Arlen Specter (R-Pa) is about to announce his switch to the Democratic Party
Baxter Greene

IF so,

No need for Cornyn’s endorsement now.

At least the GOP can run a conservative on the ticket.

maverick muse on April 28, 2009 at 12:17 PM

Then talk to Industrial Light and Magic. Wonder what the cost effectiveness would be to hire them vs the cost of flying the plane over NYC?

coyoterex on April 28, 2009 at 12:16 PM
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It’s not that simple to just take footage of a freaking plane against a blue sky of size X shot from angle Y and a distance Z and manipulate X and Z then slap it into footage of the Statue of Liberty shot at size A, angle B and distance C -AND – the footage of the Statue of Liberty is MOVING.

You could spend weeks working on it and it would still. Look. Like. Sh1t.

The reason why ILM does such a great job is because THEY HAVE CONTROL OVER X, Y, Z, A, B, C.

Dave Rywall on April 28, 2009 at 12:26 PM

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