Miss California: Pageant organizers tried to force me to apologize
posted at 11:36 am on April 27, 2009 by Ed Morrissey
The saga of the Miss USA pageant continues to get more and more ridiculous. After organizer Donald Trump inexplicably invited Perez Hilton to judge the beauty contest and the blogger wound up using it as a PR stunt with a politically loaded question, Carrie Prejean has garnered more attention for her runner-up status than the winner got. (Quick: without Googling, can you name her?) Now, after Miss California has become a media darling by speaking her own mind, she reveals that the Miss California pageant organizers wanted her to remember her proper place — by renouncing her religious beliefs and apologizing:
Miss California Carrie Prejean, who became the bombshell of the Miss USA pageant by saying gay couples should not be allowed to marry, said Sunday that her state sponsors urged her to apologize afterward but she rejected the advice.
Prejean, 21, said officials from the Miss California USA pageant were worried that her comments would cost their contest financial backing and tried to prepare her for a string of post-pageant media interviews by discouraging her from discussing her religious beliefs.
“`You need to apologize to the gay community. You need to not talk about your faith. This has everything to do with you representing California and saving the brand,’” Prejean recalled being told. “I was representing California. I was representing the majority of people in California.”
You need to not talk about your faith. For those who think of beauty pageants as anachronisms for young women in an era of liberation, doesn’t this speak volumes about the attitudes of the organizers? Just shut up and look pretty, even if people are attacking you.
Let’s remember why Prejean has to talk about this at all. The organizers of the national contest invited an outspoken gay-marriage advocate and allowed him to turn the pageant into a soapbox for his own purposes. After Prejean gave her honest answer, choosing to have the confidence in her own faith and intellect, Hilton then went on a media tear, calling Prejean a “b***h” and saying he wished he could call her an even more vulgar term demeaning towards women.
And the beauty pageant organizers want her to shut up, smile, and just take it — and apologize for having an opinion.
What a breakthrough for women!
Blowback
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Why is it that whenever “gay” is mentioned, it becomes some “liberal” thing.
We ain’t all lefty sheep.
JetBoy on April 27, 2009 at 12:24 PM
Tell ‘em to piss off. What are they gonna do, revoke your non-crown?
mojo on April 27, 2009 at 12:25 PM
My family won’t buy ANYTHING made or sold by sponsors of that Trump trash.
marklmail on April 27, 2009 at 12:25 PM
Homosexuals may not be, but McCain suporters are lefty sheep by default.
TMK on April 27, 2009 at 12:26 PM
Do you think Perez Hilton’s immature attempt to insert his political agenda into the program and the subsequent “you play with fire you might get burned” result, followed by his tenaged girl whining and ranting is helping the gay cause?
What intelligent person, gay or straight, wants to hook their wagon to that train wreck?
caygeon on April 27, 2009 at 12:27 PM
What in the Hell does any of this have to do with religion anyway? I don’t want to kill kids or turn marriage into a sick joke, and I haven’t set foot inside a church for years.
Liberals claim that everyone else’s beliefs are superstitious nonsense, but all their own idiotic insanity is “reality”. They portray everyone who holds a different political opinion as a bunch of weird cultists. It’s what Socialists call the “big lie.” And we need to quit letting liberals get away with it.
One need only defend oneself to his peers, or his betters. Every time conservatives “defend” ourselves to liberals, we concede their claim of moral perfection. Whether you’re talking about killing babies, Global Warming – it doesn’t matter what the topic is – we have already lost the argument before it begins
If the POPE accuses me of being an evil monster; I’ll feel the need to explain myself (even though I don’t happen to be a member of that particular faith.)
But when people like Perez Hilton and Barney Frank accuse me of being a scumbag? Dude, that’s like being insulted by a cockroach! And we need to treat them with all the respect they deserve. We need to attack, attack, attack and attack again. And never defend ourselves to these wastes of skin – ever.
logis on April 27, 2009 at 12:27 PM
That’s the best idea I’ve heard yet today.
When the women in this country get mad…hell WILL break loose.
Jed1899 on April 27, 2009 at 12:27 PM
I was representing the majority of people in California
Well based on the results of the Prop 8 ballot, I think she probably was.
Kasper Hauser on April 27, 2009 at 12:27 PM
Them’s fighin’ words…
JetBoy on April 27, 2009 at 12:29 PM
caygeon on April 27, 2009 at 12:22 PM
What’s a feminist? Today’s role models are Paris Hilton, Britney and Lohan. It’s cool to be a skank with a tramp stamp and be called a Ho. Hear the silence!
faol on April 27, 2009 at 12:30 PM
Hmmmmmm I think Trump needs some mail. From a lotta people.
dogsoldier on April 27, 2009 at 12:30 PM
I believe it was The Beach Boys who said it best: “I wish they all could be California…. GIRLS!!!”
manwithblackhat on April 27, 2009 at 12:31 PM
Anyone else find it wonderful how this woman basically exposed a contest that “objectifies women” as being run by liberals?
DethMetalCookieMonst on April 27, 2009 at 12:31 PM
petunia on April 27, 2009 at 12:00 PM
Stong homes ARE paramount for anyone’s happiness.
Until most recently, children of broken homes were stigmatized as socially undesirable and less than their counterparts in the neighborhood and schools and churches, no thanks to general moral superiority elitism that today is eschewed as extreme. Of course marriage should not be redefined, just as arguments should not sacrifice the innocent by the pageantry of an out-of-context argument (below).
In public, sexuality is expressed NON-VERBALLY as always. Once it becomes verbal in public, it is prostituted. When sexuality becomes the public topic of discourse, no one wins, and a lot of people get hurt.
PAGEANTS have always been about the brand and image. When the contestants applied to compete, there were signature forms and agreements required. Those documents require that the contestant not be married (nor ever have been married), and that if any contestant misrepresent their SINGLE NATURE, or become engaged, that they will be required to relinquish their crown is awarded or expelled if the competition is still underway. Nowhere in those documents did it say that the contestants were required to represent either heterosexual or homosexual rights or both, let alone “marriage”.
The owners of the Miss USA/Universe Pageants deliberately sabotaged Miss CA, hiring the asshat judge, matching him with her for THE MILLION DOLLAR QUESTION, and then since she had the nerve to stand up for herself, allow that judge to call her a b1tch and a cvnt without repremand, and then attempt to coerce Miss CA to repudiate herself–what a dark turd they’ve made of their entire BRAND.
Miss USA/Universe can now be a transvestite or whatever. Pageants have always been about the brand. For the owners of the Miss Universe franchise to throw up on Miss CA is disgusting.
maverick muse on April 27, 2009 at 12:31 PM
DethMetalCookieMonst on April 27, 2009 at 12:31 PM
Good call. I wondered why we had not heard of the degrading of women in these contests for a while.
faol on April 27, 2009 at 12:34 PM
Let all the liberals tell you how we’re too civilized in the 21st century to let that happen.
Let them explain to us why Britain allowed a woman to marry a dolphin.
Let them explain to us why Muslims are succeeding at having Shari accepted by Democratic/Socialist countries that believe in the ‘freedom’ of mankind to make individual choices.
Let them explain to us why it’s ok for those guys to practice polygamy, but not ‘us’.
Ask Peter Singer(?) why it’s ok for people to ‘love’ animals-why bestiality is acceptable to him & the college he works for.
Slippery slope, no doubt. But they won’t admit it.
Badger40 on April 27, 2009 at 12:36 PM
Excellent post, Ed. The libs have really exposed themselves on this one. And instead of apologizing to Miss California and making the issue go away, they are making themselves look worse by the minute.
NebCon on April 27, 2009 at 12:36 PM
jgapinoy on April 27, 2009 at 12:00 PM
Thank you.
TO DATE IN THE WORLD OF BEAUTY PAGEANTS,
sexuality has been nonverbal.
Taking things out of context is a bitch.
One’s sexual preference is a matter of privacy.
And marriage is between a man and a woman.
//why are comments not seeming to register?
I responded to petunia first.
maverick muse on April 27, 2009 at 12:36 PM
Ask Allah.
Attila (Pillage Idiot) on April 27, 2009 at 12:37 PM
TMK on April 27, 2009 at 12:26 PM
i have news for you. the majority of homosexuals are TOTAL sheep for the left. with the exception of myself, since i have a brain, did not drink the kool aid, and my sexuality does not control my nor make up my entire existence.
Ghoul aid on April 27, 2009 at 12:37 PM
testing
maverick muse on April 27, 2009 at 12:37 PM
Of course, remember the ‘study’ that showed men prefer ‘nice’ girls- not Hos & skanks.
The fraternity crowd is not so silent on this issue, I’m sure.
They like having access to skanks & Hos.
Badger40 on April 27, 2009 at 12:38 PM
Anyone else’s comments being delayed?
maverick muse on April 27, 2009 at 12:38 PM
Badger40 on April 27, 2009 at 12:38 PM
My frat house living son calls them “practice girls”.
faol on April 27, 2009 at 12:40 PM
Please. Enough with this crap.
JetBoy on April 27, 2009 at 12:41 PM
Ugh. Definitely not husband material, those guys.
I think he raises a valid point. Why so upset?
Badger40 on April 27, 2009 at 12:50 PM
Pot, meet kettle.
You don’t like the ‘wall’ that keeps you from redefining marriage, but what you can’t get through your peabrains is that when that wall is that the barbarians can pour through.
Take your perverted bodies and sick minds off the streets and march them right back to your own bedrooms.
Dark-Star on April 27, 2009 at 12:54 PM
No, not valid points. Hey, 8 years ago I thought the same way. But after “coming out” and…going out to the bars, meeting people, etc…we’re as normal as straights are.
To say gays spread disease and perform “unspeakable” acts…because we all know straights don’t do that…is ridiculous.
Jag, spend some time around gays. You might find it a wake-up call. We’re just, for the most part, people.
JetBoy on April 27, 2009 at 12:59 PM
Proving again that feminist and liberal organizations are nothing but leftist fronts for the DNC.
jukin on April 27, 2009 at 1:01 PM
Because the MSM and other elite liberals are hypocritical propagandists who spike, bury or explain away anything that might detract from their idols’ worthiness for worship, while magnifying, stigmatizing and attempting to silence any opposing views?
Just a guess.
Loxodonta on April 27, 2009 at 1:06 PM
Perez Hilton as a beauty pageant judge? What is wrong with that picture? Then Hilton uses the position to create controversy? Why would a homosexual be a judge at a Miss USA pageant? Why aska questionof whether she supports gay marriage or not if you only accept one answer?
How can the promoters of this support attacks on a contestant that spoke her beliefs. There wasn’t a right or wrong answer? It was an opinion and she should be respected for her opinion to uplhold normal marriage values.
ObamatheMessiah on April 27, 2009 at 1:08 PM
Watch as next year’s contestants all pronounce the P.C. line. And Heaven forbid any of them has a Christian worldview.
For next years contest, remember these words, guys: No Christians Need Apply.
Next thing you know, Christians become second-class citizens. Denied jobs. Expelled from college. Children taken from their homes. Small businesses sued into oblivion for carrying The Fish.
All in the Land of
the First Amendment– Political Correctness.newton on April 27, 2009 at 1:09 PM
Huh?
DarkCurrent on April 27, 2009 at 1:09 PM
Carrie won! She not only made more of a name for herself than the pageant winner, she also got to testify to her Christian faith. And I suspect, she has many open doors. I also suspect Perez Hilton only gained infamy by bashing her so badly.
Christian Conservative on April 27, 2009 at 1:11 PM
Who better?
Who do you think designs the gowns, does the make-up, styles the hair?
These contests have “teh ghey” all over them.
JetBoy on April 27, 2009 at 1:11 PM
anyone have a link to her speaking at liberty?? That would be really TIGHT if true
ousoonerfan15 on April 27, 2009 at 1:13 PM
That’s very true, but many gays that don’t toe the “liberal” line aren’t very vocal. Since people rarely hear a gay conservative or republican speak … they assume most gays are in the liberal camp.
We need gays to be more open and vocal. Just like we need more minorities to speak up as well.
Tammy Bruce is a well known exception.
darwin on April 27, 2009 at 1:14 PM
You mean Obama?
MarkTheGreat on April 27, 2009 at 1:15 PM
Even non-professionals, such as the rest of you, should have been able to figure this all out by now. It is all so clear. And, no it is not that he hates his mother, although he surly does. He was mainly just trying to get attention and impress the man of his dreams, Barney Frank.
Sigmund on April 27, 2009 at 1:16 PM
Sure you are. But you’re also a group of people who practice a high risk form of sexual activity.
The human anus was not meant to receive such objects. And I am not trying to be funny when I say this.
There are sensitive tissues there that were not physiologically meant to receive a human p_n_$.
Bringing up homosexual mens’ (& also should have brought up intravenous drug users) contributions to the spread of this disease deserves mention & scrutiny.
Although I personally have, having lived in So & Central CA for a lot of my formative years, The wake-up call(s) I got at a young age hanging around Novato & Marin county in general was enough for me.
You are people. You deserve respect & freedoms. But not necessarily in that order.
Badger40 on April 27, 2009 at 1:16 PM
I’m sure the pollstercrats would love to contrive some fake polls showing that the majority now wants to homosexualize marriage, but the problem you hiltonites have on this issue is that it is meaningfully polled quite regularly at the ballot box.
Buddahpundit on April 27, 2009 at 1:17 PM
Oh yeah, by all means, let’s get LOTS more details about this crap.
I’m completely sure that there are plenty of (otherwise) normal practitioners of every sexual fetish – no matter how incredibly disgusting it might be.
But if a bestiality fetishist approved of someone like Perez Hilton as his personal spokesman, it would be very safe to say there’s absolutely nothing about him or anyone he knows that is in any way “normal.”
logis on April 27, 2009 at 1:17 PM
Newsflash: Sodomy is not normal.
leetpriest on April 27, 2009 at 1:18 PM
Jonathan Falwell mentioned her in his sermon yesterday and noted that she’d be there on Wed. I can’t find anything on the LU website, yet.
acleaver on April 27, 2009 at 1:18 PM
Not today, but I’ve had trouble previously. I don’t think it’s anything you posted. Could be your computer or server. Or maybe Janet Napolitano.
[I eventually saw and answered your question about Marc-André Hamelin in yesterday's thread.]
Loxodonta on April 27, 2009 at 1:18 PM
They aren’t REALLY against it. They just said that to get elected. Liberals understand that their candidates routinely lie while trying to curry “moderate” votes.
hawksruleva on April 27, 2009 at 1:19 PM
already
maverick muse on April 27, 2009 at 1:20 PM
Whether the majority of gays are left, right, or indifferent, I don’t know.
But the so called Gay Leadership, Gay Spokespeople are universally far left to ubber far left.
MarkTheGreat on April 27, 2009 at 1:22 PM
How? By uniting gays behind a name calling fascist hissy fit jihad? I would like to think that most gays don’t support this Perez Hilton $hit mouthed little Adolf.
MB4 on April 27, 2009 at 1:22 PM
It’s part of the game plan.
First you declare that a particular position is “religiously inspired”. Then you invoke the 1st ammendment to claim that the govt can’t hold any religiously inspired position, and hence MUST adhere to the opposite postion.
It doesn’t matter whether or not the position is “religiously inspired”. All you need to do is find someone, somewhere, who claims to be religious who holds to that position.
It doesn’t matter that the first ammendment only declares that the govt can’t create a state church, it does not declare freedom from religion.
MarkTheGreat on April 27, 2009 at 1:26 PM
As were the black civil rights leaders. Perhaps, since both are looking for government to make a change they align more with a party that embraces government as an agent of that change.
I’d heard that the GOP got 30% of the gay vote in 2008. Perhaps, as a group, there is more potential for GOP affiliation in the future.
dedalus on April 27, 2009 at 1:29 PM
She will now receive the Palin treatment by the press. By gosh, though, what a very interesting young woman. I particularly got a kick out of her reading the Bible on morning news today. That, too, was in opposition of CA.
But what made me laugh most? (And not because I agree politically, because I do not) I laughed most when she pointed out that she did, indeed, represent the people of CA, who expressed their political opinions recently. :)
That made me snort my coffee that she had the guts to point out the obvious. She’s dead right.
AnninCA on April 27, 2009 at 1:32 PM
Martin Luther King, Jr. was not a leftist. His assassination conveniently allowed the black power leftists to pirate his name, message, life and “holiday”.
maverick muse on April 27, 2009 at 1:37 PM
What I most appreciate about her is that she is really nailing the problem with the PC stuff. It does, in fact, ask people to repress their own personal opinions. By sticking to her guns and reminding every interviewer, in a very nice manner, that she was asked specifically about HER personal opinion……..she has, in effect, blown the covers entirely off the so-called “progressive movement.” They are NOT progressive. They are, in fact, regressive. They are NOT proponents of free speech. They are NOT proponents of tolerance of viewpoints.
It just gets me wound up. :)
And I don’t agree with Miss CA on much of anything, I bet.
But I sure do on her right to be authentic.
AnninCA on April 27, 2009 at 1:41 PM
I’m in love…
nickj116 on April 27, 2009 at 1:42 PM
Fair enough, though he wasn’t in favor of state’s rights and it is hard to say where he would have been on the issue of affirmative action in the 1970′s. My guess is that he’d have been more likely aligned with the Dems than the GOP.
Since the Dems are more comfortable using the government to affect social change while conservatives tend toward the opposite position, the Dems will tend to attract groups who are looking for politicians who will deliver rights.
dedalus on April 27, 2009 at 1:45 PM
Obviously a pretty girl, and she seems perfectly pleasant, but why does anybody care what she thinks about anything?
dakine on April 27, 2009 at 1:58 PM
That’s probably the most ironic strawfellow of the argument. If +/-70% of Californicatia is devoutly religious, I’ll eat my JVC model HA-G101 stereo headphones.
TMK on April 27, 2009 at 2:05 PM
Bcs this woman has a set of balls that are the envy of all Beta males.
I care that she thinks to voice her opinion on a matter & be damned to the rest of the world that wants to shut her up.
If we use your reasoning, then why should anyone anywhere care what you think?
And that was not a personal slam, BTW.
But it should be noted-why should anyone care what any American has to say?
Badger40 on April 27, 2009 at 2:08 PM
leetpriest on April 27, 2009 at 1:18 PM
Personally I could not care less if someone is gay or likes german shepards. But, when it’s in my face all the time it gets annoying. Every reality show,sitcom,drama etc has to have a gay angle somewhere. The human body has it’s entrances and exits, each should be respected.
faol on April 27, 2009 at 2:10 PM
She never asked to be a public spokesperson for the issue. She was forced into that position by an honest answer to a simple question. All she’s trying to do now is defend herself against a hostile PC culture that is ready to burn her at the stake for her heresy. It’s not really about her. This whole thing is just an interesting case study in liberal fascism.
frank63 on April 27, 2009 at 2:13 PM
Yet more of evidence of how the progressive PC culture has turned “liberals” into some of the least Liberal (classic Liberalism concerning individual rights) people in America.
Stickeehands on April 27, 2009 at 2:16 PM
True for most parts, with one important exception ;)
DarkCurrent on April 27, 2009 at 2:17 PM
It seems more about Trump’s ability to stage a media circus. The purpose (or at least effect) of most pageant questions is to have the contestant say something utterly forgettable about a big issue. Carrie flunked that test, but the controversy she sparked is more valuable than the crown. Ultimately, neither she nor Perez are deep thinkers on the issue but they both play their roles well-enough to give the confrontation a little bit more than the 15 minutes it deserves.
dedalus on April 27, 2009 at 2:20 PM
So they ask her a question, she gives them an honest answer and now they want an apology?
Only liberals can be that breathtakingly stupid!
orlandocajun on April 27, 2009 at 2:22 PM
DarkCurrent on April 27, 2009 at 2:17 PM
Oops!
faol on April 27, 2009 at 2:23 PM
Loxodonta on April 27, 2009 at 1:18 PM
I had no idea and am very glad to know what I share in common with you, onlineanalyst, and coldwarrior beyond politics. (As per recorded Liszt, my affinity is with John Browning–Liszt reincarnated in the Dante Sonata/fantasy–the ENDING given rebirth!)
So let’s play the title game. Which composition best reflects this thread? I’m thinking opera…patience required on my part with the example that popped into mind, as Mozart’s operas are more interesting to study than to sit through AS YET for me–I’m learning to embrace what I formerly tolerated.
Act 1 Finale Quartet – The Abduction from the Seraglio, Mozart
At least the example demonstrates that what was once ultra-liberal and revolutionary is now considered the quintessence of Classicism (chronologically applicable to our Founding Fathers), and what was once lewd is now trite. What would Wolfy say? (not to get into chauvenism)
The entire pageantry and image of fidelity, love, and the self sacrifice that a real man risks in order to treasure the pure woman’s true love is lost. And for all that he has, Donald Trump has no class. This may as well apply to the wedding encounter thread, too.
maverick muse on April 27, 2009 at 2:26 PM
AnninCA
Absolutely.
I saw a parallel between two women’s circumstances as being discussed today.
@ “Notre Dame’s token pro-lifer drops out of commencement program” thread
maverick muse on April 27, 2009 at 2:33 PM
Wonder if its a coincidence that Meg McCain just twittered this? She must read HotAir.
GoodBoy on April 27, 2009 at 2:33 PM
then no questions at all, fine.
back to don’t ask, don’t tell.
maverick muse on April 27, 2009 at 2:37 PM
I hope she is compensated for her strength and tenacity some day.
Jerricho68 on April 27, 2009 at 2:39 PM
Funny how when an actor on Grey’s Anatomy, used the f-t anti gay slur off camera in a private conversation, Perez Hilton and GLAAD demanded that actor be fired. When Perez Hilton used the b and c misogynistic terms against Ms California, there’s not a peep out of GLAAD or any other mainstream gay rights groups denouncing such vile language.
eaglewingz08 on April 27, 2009 at 2:40 PM
I personally don’t care what people do in their own home. I don’t walk around in public shouting out “OOOOH LOOK AT ME, I’M SUPER DUPER HETERO!!!11!1!!1!1″
Likewise, I’ve never seen a parade where Santa is feeling up on one of the female elves. But pretty much any parade you go to where the soddomites have forced the city to allow them to have a float, they’re feeling up on each other, in front of little children.
If all heterosexuals were as combative toward homosexuals as homosexuals are towards heterosexuals, we’d never hear the end of the crying.
leetpriest on April 27, 2009 at 2:41 PM
I know what you mean about the oppression of political correctness. Coercion is built into liberalism. If the liberal utopia could come into existence through the choices and desires of free people, it would have already done so. It’s interesting to remember that during the early days after the term “political correctness” was coined, liberals did not realize it was meant as an insult.
The Left has always understood the value of compelling respect for its ideas, symbols, and personalities. If you force people to bow before something often enough, eventually they start thinking it deserves to be bowed to. The reason why every culture developed elaborate rituals of respect and obedience to its nobility is the instinctive understanding that such rituals reinforce authority. The point behind so many of the seemingly absurd gestures made by authoritarian liberals is to make the populace reflexively comfortable with their authority. A society is programmed through habit. Generations of children compelled to participate in the rituals of America’s official state religion, environmentalism, will grow up programmed to respect its high priests and their pronouncements.
There has been much discussion in recent years about whether homosexuality is a product of biology, or a learned response – whether people are born gay, or choose to be that way. I think the same question can be asked of the heterosexual discomfort with gays, and it is the more important question in light of current events. I have the sense that this aversion is hard-wired into heterosexual biology. It is a powerful instinctive response, not a flimsy prejudice learned at a young age. If the straight aversion to gays was a learned behavior, it should have been all but eliminated from the current generation, which has grown up in a culture absolutely bathed in messages of tolerance… but this is clearly not the case. Average folks can be taught to accept homosexuality, but I believe they can never be taught to embrace it – so it will be necessary to teach them to submit to it.
As the next few years play out, the gay movement will follow the same trajectory as the black civil rights movement: it will become less and less about the welfare of individual gay people, and more and more about the power wielded by its leadership and their socialist allies. Socialists are delighted by the battle to devalue traditional marriage, and gay marriage is a very useful club for them to beat traditionalists with. Obedience and submission is every bit as important to the political and cultural elite of 2009 as it was to the monarchs and emperors of previous eras. That is why a beauty pageant contestant will never be allowed to express a traditional or religious viewpoint without being crushed, and normal people will never be allowed to stop thinking about homosexuality, or race, no matter how much they would prefer to do so. There is no political power to be mined from polite indifference.
Doctor Zero on April 27, 2009 at 2:43 PM
I respect her because she won’t allow either side to divert her from her message.
It is only proper that she answered the question asked. They asked her for HER opinion.
Calling out the CA committee may SEEM to be falling on deaf ears, as everyone flits off into the gay or straight BS stuff.
But she’s staying on point.
No pageant committee should ever be advising a winner to lie.
That is the issue.
AnninCA on April 27, 2009 at 2:44 PM
Maybe now that heifer can read about how much Allah wants make out with her rolls.
Like her father, she’s nothing but a liberal nuisance that infiltrated the Republican party to cast out Christians and Conservatives, only to leave all of the “moderate” fence-sitting morons and illegal aliens to vote in people that misrepresent their constituents.
leetpriest on April 27, 2009 at 2:46 PM
Great post Dr. Zero.
I think I’m probably just simple-minded. I think most situations are opportunities to become more….ourselves.
Maybe I am just into individualism.
I don’t agree with her about marriage. I’m delighted to see this issue opening up in various states. I really don’t care who gets married. Heck, I’ve been married twice. Have at it, is my attitude.
It’s just a legal issue to me.
But I am appalled by the lack of respect for differing viewpoints.
That is just not right.
AnninCA on April 27, 2009 at 2:48 PM
Dear sweet and beautiful Carrie:
You have NO reason whatsoever, to apologize for your Christian beliefs…to anyone. Including the Miss U.S.A. Pageant, and especially to them. You did, nor said anything offensive. Fact is, they should be tripping over themselves to apologize to you, for being made an unnecessary spectacle. Clearly, they did a poor PR job covering for cross dressing drag queen Perez Hilton.
I hope the pageant learned a valuable lesson from homo-thug, Perez Hilton’s agenda, on who they should screen for judges.
byteshredder on April 27, 2009 at 2:49 PM
teetpriest, as far as the GOP goes, if you want to kick out all those who might not agree on a variety of social issues, go ahead.
But I think the statistics show that means you’re pretty much doomed to lose elections.
I don’t think of the GOP as strictly about morality issues. I think that’s boxing them in too tightly.
But…..if you wish everyone interested in voting GOP who doesn’t agree with a very narrow social agenda to go away, I think they will.
AnninCA on April 27, 2009 at 2:50 PM
Funny how when an actor on Grey’s Anatomy, used the f-t anti gay slur off camera in a private conversation, Perez Hilton and GLAAD demanded that actor be fired. When Perez Hilton used the b and c misogynistic terms against Ms California, there’s not a peep out of GLAAD or any other mainstream gay rights groups denouncing such vile language.
eaglewingz08 on April 27, 2009 at 2:40 PM
Do as I say….
faol on April 27, 2009 at 2:57 PM
A lot of young people could easily have been swayed by the “It’s about your state” drivel. I probably would have been at her age. I admire her sense and fortitude.
mikeyboss on April 27, 2009 at 2:57 PM
Lack of respect begets lack of respect. When homosexuals feel each other up and make out with each other, and hump each other like animals at public events like a parade for the sole purpose of forcing their lifestyle onto straight people, it’s a lack of respect for my personal belief and ideology, as well as a lack of respect for the community as a whole.
leetpriest on April 27, 2009 at 2:57 PM
How about something appropriate for all Carrie Prejean threads & her young lovelorn male followers: Si dolce e’l tormento, madrigal for solo voice by Claudio Monteverdi?
Si dolce e’l tormento
che in seno mi sta
ch’io vivo contento
per cruda beltà.
So sweet is the torment
that I have in my heart
that I live happily
for cruel beauty.
Loxodonta on April 27, 2009 at 3:01 PM
Attending a Saint Patrick’s day parade might raise some issues with Irish people if one were to believe that you can characterize a group based on how a subset behaves at a parade.
dedalus on April 27, 2009 at 3:01 PM
Miss California is Blessed.
tre on April 27, 2009 at 3:08 PM
AnninMX, you and Meg sure do think alike. Let me ask you a question, how is it considered a “win” when neither side represents you?
Likewise, a win for Collins, Specter or any other RINO is never a win for the Repubican party, it’s a win for the Democrat party. Why? Because they know that idiots like you will go out and vote for them because of the (R) next to their name, when their vote is as far left as possible.
Social issues always play a big role in fiscal issues. For example, Guns. Ban guns or ammo, and you’ve put a halt on a certain companies that provide stable, good paying jobs to Americans.
Illegal immigration? Well, take a nice look at the swine flu, how do you think it got here, how do you think it will spread? Open borders. Lack of jobs in the U.S? It’s easy to see that it can be faulted toward the open borders to the south. Now the folks without professional skills get boned. Need I start on how our prisons get filled with all of those illegals that your tax dollars go toward keeping alive?
Most of these social issues are beyond allowing whatever it is to go on. Take abortion as a prime example. The issue is no longer banning abortion. The issue is now using public money to fund these things. Tell me why I should have to pay for your abortion. Go.
leetpriest on April 27, 2009 at 3:12 PM
Isn’t legal travel more likely to spread a flu due to the frequency and ease with which passport holders can cross borders and get exposed to a virus?
dedalus on April 27, 2009 at 3:21 PM
How many poor swine farmers do you know that have the money and passport to cross the borders?
leetpriest on April 27, 2009 at 3:23 PM
And at that, Americans are far better immunized to viruses than Mexicans. Not to mention that I don’t think Mexico City is exactly a hotspot for most travelers going to Mexico. Maybe if it was Acapulco that was the source, we could find that theory a little more reliable.
Time will tell though, right?
leetpriest on April 27, 2009 at 3:26 PM
The virus can leap from person-to-person and then aboard a plane faster than the swine farmer can close up his farm and sneak across the border.
dedalus on April 27, 2009 at 3:27 PM
As of today, all cases of Mexican Flu outside of Mexico are legal tourists returning from visits to Mexico.
So Mexican Flu has nothing to do with illegal immigration, the border fence, abortion, Gay Marriage, or Carrie Prejean (thank God!).
Let’s not mix up apples and oranges, or apples and swine flu.
Loxodonta on April 27, 2009 at 3:29 PM
That might be true if St. Patty’s day wasn’t such a widespread excuse for the general population of the country to get drunk. How much of that population do you think are first generation Irish? .0000000001%? .0000000002% maybe?
leetpriest on April 27, 2009 at 3:30 PM
There are probably more flights per day to Mexico City than Acapulco.
Time will tell. The financial markets are shrugging it off after a bit of fear overnight.
dedalus on April 27, 2009 at 3:30 PM
On my last trip to McSorely’s everyone was Irish, or claimed to be.
dedalus on April 27, 2009 at 3:32 PM
Yet.
Will you be willing to make that bet when they start evacuating Mexico City?
leetpriest on April 27, 2009 at 3:33 PM
I’ll bet that the first people out of Mexico City into the US are those with valid passports, getting off the planes at places like JFK or LAX.
dedalus on April 27, 2009 at 3:38 PM
Hey what do you know? I’m Irish too! So are all of my friends, and a few dogs I know.
Just because you’re a quarter or even half Irish, doesn’t make you Irish. Being born and raised in Ireland makes you Irish.
It’s futile and idiotic to make a comparison about how soddomites act at a parade in front of children that they know will be present, as opposed to how adults will act in a bar that children are not allowed at.
If you’re going to try to make a point, at least make it viable.
leetpriest on April 27, 2009 at 3:39 PM
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