British MP “jokes”: If Miss California turns up dead, I did it
posted at 6:41 pm on April 27, 2009 by Allahpundit
A no-name backbencher from Labour’s left wing? Not quite: He’s a Tory libertarian who’s in line for a cabinet position if the conservatives take the next parliamentary election. He’s also openly gay, which is one thing he has in common with Perez Hilton; the other is his sneering reference to Miss Cali as a “bitch.”
Like Breitbart, I’m sympathetic to the cause of gay rights, and like Breitbart, my patience has worn thin:
I have a ton of wonderful gay friends – even ones “married” and with children. If gay activists created “A Day Without a Gay” (as they promoted Dec. 10 of last year), I’d be the first to cry “uncle” – even before Cher. So, accordingly, I make philosophical and political accommodations. I’m – as the MTV generation says – “gay-friendly.”
But lately, color me “gay perturbed.” “Gay-friendly,” a term once manifestly redundant, now seems a glaring contradiction…
I fear the vicious and hypocritical path that the activist gay left is headed on will eventually be met with a backlash. If it already hasn’t. Activism goes both ways and somehow the majority has a way of having its say. Unless the gay community polices itself better and registers its displeasure against these pitiful and selective acts of political retribution, many tolerant Americans who hold the same beliefs on marriage as Mr. Obama and the Dalai Lama are going to begin to register their displeasure at the voting booth and through consumer boycotts against those who employ or support the thuggish tactics of Perez Hilton and his ilk.
“A Day Without a Gay” may become a prolonged and mostly unspoken reality. Trust me, I don’t want to throw out all my John Waters DVDs. But if push comes to shove, and if the bullying continues, I’m more than willing to stay at a Ramada.
Note especially the casualness with which Duncan makes his “jokes,” smug in the knowledge that if she had said this about him or Hilton, it’d be a national scandal. I hope The One never has to welcome this turd to the White House as prime minister.
For the record, as a follow-up to Ed’s item earlier today, California pageant officials deny that they told her to apologize or not to mention her faith. I’m skeptical, but stay tuned.
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Normally I’d be happy to vote for gay marriage. But with clowns like these I’m turning skeptical. If it’s such an important issue, don’t be @ssholes about it.
rbj on April 27, 2009 at 6:43 PM
Conservative is apparently a word used lightly there. Sort of like “Republican” to describe Lincoln Chaffee or Arlen Specter here.
amerpundit on April 27, 2009 at 6:44 PM
They`re better than we are, so calm down people.
ThePrez on April 27, 2009 at 6:44 PM
I wish there could be a day with no gay threads at HotAir.
jgapinoy on April 27, 2009 at 6:45 PM
More disgusting crap from a country that has been going down the drain for years.
Not wasting the outrage. F*** ‘im.
MadisonConservative on April 27, 2009 at 6:45 PM
BLOWBACK!
hillbillyjim on April 27, 2009 at 6:47 PM
I’m not hyper anti-gay marriage (though I’d much rather government get out of marriage altogether than for it to change it now that one taboo is no longer so taboo), but this is only proving those who are completely correct.
They said they’d be targeted, and that anything said against homosexuality would be considered hate speech, and that’s exactly what’s happening. These people are acting as though she killed someone. They’re acting as though their horrible reaction to her is justified because what she said is just that repugnant.
I don’t know if there will be a backlash, but people like him and Perez deserve one.
Esthier on April 27, 2009 at 6:47 PM
I had to live with these kind of people years ago, and it drove me to join the military. I can only hope this latest outrage encourages kids to embark on conservative career paths and values.
m064404 on April 27, 2009 at 6:47 PM
Where are all those
hypocrite coward leftist hagsstrong women in the feminist movement?Doing their nails?
RobCon on April 27, 2009 at 6:48 PM
I thought it was F*** `em.
ThePrez on April 27, 2009 at 6:48 PM
Dude, allah please update the earlier post… I’ve been following the Miss Cali drama really close…
http://www3.signonsandiego.com/stories/2009/apr/27/ca-gay-marriage-miss-california-042709/
Google his name… there’s no way he would have told her to recant completely from 1man-1woman marriage…
Make sure you have your speakers on when you go to this…
http://www.nealfamilyministries.com/
http://www.nealfamilyministries.com/bio.html
Maybe she got perturbed by what some person said from that group that tried to advise her… and got rid of their who representation… but she needs to explain what happened…
ninjapirate on April 27, 2009 at 6:48 PM
Kudos to the British Bobbies
William Amos on April 27, 2009 at 6:48 PM
My apologies, `im is the singular.
ThePrez on April 27, 2009 at 6:49 PM
The Thatcherite Conservatives are gone from leadership posts. The party is now CINO.
Wethal on April 27, 2009 at 6:49 PM
FIFY
DethMetalCookieMonst on April 27, 2009 at 6:50 PM
Translation please.
RobCon on April 27, 2009 at 6:50 PM
When John Major lost the Torys control of Parliment in the 1990s the “Moderates” clammored that the party needed to move to the “Left” to gain more votes.
It has spent almost 20 years in the wilderness and only now has a shot because the Brits are tired of Labor.
William Amos on April 27, 2009 at 6:52 PM
Isn’t this “Hate Speech” as defines by the EU Constitution and isn’t it actionable?
Tommy_G on April 27, 2009 at 6:53 PM
Why are the self proclaimed spokespeople for the gay community such morons? I know there’s reasonable gay people out there, like it or not, they may have to step up and take away the public face of their cause fom idjits like this guy and Perez.
trubble on April 27, 2009 at 6:54 PM
Clowns like this Duncan, and all the Perez Hiltons out there, are slowly turning me against gay civil unions, let alone gay marriage.
coldwarrior on April 27, 2009 at 6:55 PM
I’m up for a lifetime of days without a gay.
jbh45 on April 27, 2009 at 6:56 PM
Theoretically, couldn’t anyone legally shoot this limey bozo dead now if he sets foot on American soil? I’m pretty sure Miss California could legally do it, but I’m not a lawyer.
Buddahpundit on April 27, 2009 at 6:56 PM
Er, no, and that’ll be all of that.
Allahpundit on April 27, 2009 at 6:57 PM
Poor Limey’s got his Chintz in a wad.
44Magnum on April 27, 2009 at 6:59 PM
Miss California …….. the new Palin.
Someone start up a legal defense fund. The left sure is offended by attractive women.
fogw on April 27, 2009 at 6:59 PM
I’m tired of the “gay rights” canard. Homosexuals already have equal rights. They earn significantly more per capita than heterosexuals. They have positions of power in a wide array of fields. They already are equal under the law.
Is their lifestyle socially acceptable? Yeah. Is it condoned and encouraged in the public schools and in popular culture? Yeah. “Not that there’s anything wrong with that” is the only acceptable way to end any normative or factual statement about homosexuality in public. Heck, even Ms. Cali had to append the perfunctory, “Hey sorry if I offended anyone!” when expressing her opinion. When’s the last time a homosexual said anything of the kind when defending his position? Never. And they never will.
Now they’re joking about killing Ms. Cali. So much for Matthew Sheppard and the horror of joking about killing someone over this issue.
The only place where homosexuality is not coddled and kowtowed to is in the church, and even then only the most conservative churches.
spmat on April 27, 2009 at 7:01 PM
That’s the UK “conservatives” for you… A bunch of
pantsies with no core beliefs. No wonder why David Frum & Co want us to emulate them.
When Allah and others were pumping MEP Hannan for his rebuttal of Brown, I just shook my head. These guys are not conservative whatsoever. Thatcherism is dead. There are a few true Rightwingers left in the Conservative Party, but this clown or Hannan are not among them.
Norwegian on April 27, 2009 at 7:01 PM
Bingo.
By Attractive, Confident, Thinking women.
jgapinoy on April 27, 2009 at 7:02 PM
Thanks for the link. The article states that the British Police are forced to probe anything that they get a complaint about from the public. And at most it seems that if the broadcaster is found to have violated British broadcast codes, they will face “swingeing fines.”
Ah, the British.
Loxodonta on April 27, 2009 at 7:02 PM
They’re beginning to be as bad as the PETA people.
scalleywag on April 27, 2009 at 7:02 PM
I had no idea Megatons McCain was from the UK Tory Party…
Branch Rickey on April 27, 2009 at 7:03 PM
LOL maybe he won’t be elected after this! Awesome!
upinak on April 27, 2009 at 7:05 PM
I don’t have strong feelings about gay marriage one way or the other, but I have to admit with cheerleaders like this moron I am leaning right on this.
Terrye on April 27, 2009 at 7:06 PM
Why should the threat automatically be taken as a joke? That seems awfully presumptuous from a law enforcement perspective. I’m sure there are people doing hard time in prison for making the same kind of threat.
Buddahpundit on April 27, 2009 at 7:09 PM
And tolerated with open arms and kind hearts all across the Islamic world, right?
…wonder if the gay community even realizes this?
coldwarrior on April 27, 2009 at 7:10 PM
Or having an anti-Obama bumper sticker.
coldwarrior on April 27, 2009 at 7:10 PM
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Oh she should just wound him. That way he can do a few years in the joint, being a ho.
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RalphyBoy on April 27, 2009 at 7:13 PM
On that issue those same conservative churches have reason for solidarity with homosexual individuals: they’re both under threat of summary execution if they practice openly.
spmat on April 27, 2009 at 7:14 PM
I am in the same boat. I really don’t care if two people of any sex want to make a commitment to each other, but really tired of the demonizing of those who don’t 100% toe the line on their agenda. Reasonable people can disagree.
coyoterex on April 27, 2009 at 7:14 PM
Makes ya wonder, doesn’t it?
Wade on April 27, 2009 at 7:14 PM
Don’t hold your breath. Allahpundit was just telling ChubChub McCain that like her, he is a big gay marriage supporter.
Blake on April 27, 2009 at 7:16 PM
I was going to ask………..
………….. how is this not a “hate” crime?
Let the backlash commence………
Seven Percent Solution on April 27, 2009 at 7:19 PM
I admit ignorance on the specifics of UK law, but wouldn’t it be more than just a “scandal” to issue a death threat against an elected official?
Let’s put it this way: Had someone said the same joke about former President Bush while he was still in office wouldn’t there have an outcry th–
Wait, bad example. Nobody cared because that happened all the time.
Ummm… okay, change Bush to Obama.
Ohhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh!
ScottMcC on April 27, 2009 at 7:25 PM
Isnt Britian where they did the “Bush must die” play ?
William Amos on April 27, 2009 at 7:28 PM
I feel about homosexuality the same as I do about atheism, Christianity, or even Conservatism. It is the loudmouthed militantly extreme few that give the many a bad name.
For this dude to say what he said was just off-the-charts stupid, though.
It seems that of late gayness imbues the same “right” to instant over-the-top outrage that the Mohammad Cartoon Crybabies feel is their birthright.
hillbillyjim on April 27, 2009 at 7:29 PM
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I worked with a non-profit for a few years. One year our biggest annual event was approaching under the threat of a small group of gay/lesbian activist interrupting the weekend with sit-ins, and other similar tactics.
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Their complaint; they wanted special mention and attention during the event. We sat down with them to discuss their concerns. It took forever to even get past the opening statements and such because we were constantly being called out for using the wrong language.
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Reasonability applies to friends and neighbors perhaps, but activists by nature stir the pot just to stir the pot.
RalphyBoy on April 27, 2009 at 7:29 PM
It’s a satirical quiz show that does a good job of making fun of all things topical. Don;t get your knickers in a twist over it. It’s supposed to be funny and irreverent… and they do make fun of Muslims too.
lexhamfox on April 27, 2009 at 7:31 PM
If he would have said this about the Queen, or Prince Charles, or Obama, would the comment be less acceptable?
This clown needs to do twenty years in prison. In a women’s prison so he can’t have any sex.
Buddahpundit on April 27, 2009 at 7:32 PM
Here again we have Gays DEMANDING tolerance… DEMANDING, while at the same time showing just how vile and intolerant they are to anyone who dares not agree with them..
It’s redundant to point out that Mis California spoke what the majority of Californians just voted , but then again democracy does not matter if it goes against the gay agenda.
Twice Californians have spoken, and for the 2nd time Gays DEMAND that dsemocracy be overturned,, HMMmmm how very tolerant of others views.
dugbru on April 27, 2009 at 7:37 PM
Some of the comments here are really vile… can we get some moderation? I wish AP would descend down and spank people more often…
ninjapirate on April 27, 2009 at 7:43 PM
The amazing thing to me about this entire movement is the flippancy with which the gays dismiss the ‘slippery slope’ argument. They say it has nothing to do with polygamy.
The reason that it is amazing to me is that ENTIRE SOCIETIES in this world are centered around polygamy. . . even the Mormon religion used polygamy to increase its ranks here in the USA. ALL Muslim societies (over 1 billion people) understand polygamy as acceptable. Polygamy is practiced in the Bible.
Yet gay marriage has NEVER EVER ANYWHERE been a part of society. If it were to become reality here, it would be a first in the history of the world. . . and yet somehow if you don’t think it is a good idea, there is something wrong with you.
I’d support polygamy with a lot more ease than I would gay marriage. There is not an argument for gay marriage that does not include the ability for people of different cultures to practice polygamy as they do in other countries.
As far as I’m concerned, if gay marriage is legal, I’d demand polygamy to be legal.
ThackerAgency on April 27, 2009 at 7:48 PM
Anyone care to bet that the Shadow Minister for Humour here has never said the same thing about Muslim imams preaching real hatred against homosexuals in Britain?
Here’s a hint–don’t take this bet.
DRPrice on April 27, 2009 at 7:49 PM
Er, make that “Ever”, not never.
My kingdom for an edit button.
DRPrice on April 27, 2009 at 7:52 PM
And with polygamy legal, I’d marry an army of women (likely foreign until they marry me and become American) and live off of them and the fruits of their labor. Polygamy is the greatest invention in history for men – and it isn’t just about sex. . . it’s about family and raising a family in a stable environment.
ThackerAgency on April 27, 2009 at 7:52 PM
The vote was close and they’ll probably win another vote sometime in the next few years, unless the courts move ahead of that time.
In the past when the majority of voters have been opposed to Constitutional rights for some groups, the courts have stepped in. That is happening now in state courts. One can argue whether they should in this instance but a democracy without an enforced Constitution isn’t worth much beyond the results of the last election.
dedalus on April 27, 2009 at 7:53 PM
I’d recommend marrying one woman for a few years and then ask yourself if the way to make your life easier is to add a few more.
dedalus on April 27, 2009 at 7:55 PM
my problem is that if I can only have one, I want to make sure she’s the right one. . . and there’s no way I can know. If I can have several, I’ll pick the ones I think would make the best mothers and help them raise our kids.
ThackerAgency on April 27, 2009 at 8:02 PM
Sounds good. It is enough of a challenge staying on the same page with my wife. If I had to settle disagreements between her and my additional wives I think I’d go crazy. Most married guys I know are just looking to escape to their man caves or get in 18 holes of golf on a sunny day, rather than have an affair or add a wife.
dedalus on April 27, 2009 at 8:09 PM
I understand the whole. . . ‘take my wife. . . please’ jokes.
But imagine if your wife could go to another of your wives (being in the same family) to address grievances rather than depend on you as a punching bag or sounding board all the time. She might prefer it and another wife could act more as a referee on your side.
Again, MARRIAGE is about FAMILY – PERIOD. Children need a stable environment in order to be raised properly and create good stable families of their own.
I contend we essentially practice polygamy here anyway. . . multiple marriages and divorces. They just aren’t all at the same time so it’s ‘acceptable’ that way.
Marriage turns ‘love’ into an ownership proposition. People shouldn’t own each other anyway. . . but family should be committed to each other come hell or high water.
ThackerAgency on April 27, 2009 at 8:13 PM
of course the california USA organization is lying. I am pretty confident in saying that that organization is fairly liberal, which is being ran by liberal people. The co-head of california pageants is that Keith Lewis guy, who by the way IS gay. She has no reason to not tell the 100% truth about all of this
ousoonerfan15 on April 27, 2009 at 8:15 PM
Another classic case of a gay who hates his mother and is insecure because of the very small size of, well let us just say, his “cigar”.
Sigmund on April 27, 2009 at 8:23 PM
Is it not possible to criticize the rude intolerant bullying of an honest young woman by two boorish men without first bowing to the oracle of “some of my best friends are gay”?
bagoh20 on April 27, 2009 at 8:24 PM
“Like Breitbart, I’m sympathetic to the cause of gay rights, and like Breitbart, my patience has worn thin”
I think many feel the same way. I feel a backlash coming.
Star20 on April 27, 2009 at 8:36 PM
Where are all the moderate gays standing up against the gay extremists who have hijacked their peaceful sexuality? Same place as where all those moderate muslims standing against the muslim extremists who have hijacked their peaceful religion? I guess so. No, wait, they can’t be standing in the same place or they would be dead, the gays that is. Must be some similar place.
MB4 on April 27, 2009 at 8:36 PM
All my gay friends blew me off because I supported the war and voted for Bush. So, screw the some of my best friends are gay crap. They are the ones who are intolerant.
Blake on April 27, 2009 at 8:42 PM
Obama has underfunded the search for a cure.
Ted Torgerson on April 27, 2009 at 8:45 PM
meh; rest of the panel called him on it, so..
Reaps on April 27, 2009 at 8:46 PM
Hope Janet Napolitano (jeez, I almost typed “Reno”… Freudian slip?) and DHS put this guy into their next non-Jihadi terrorist report.
Kalifornia Kafir on April 27, 2009 at 8:52 PM
True. Doesn’t make what he said any better, though…
jic on April 27, 2009 at 9:06 PM
Fork him!
mindhacker on April 27, 2009 at 9:10 PM
I think gays should be added to the DHS terrorist watch list.
Star20 on April 27, 2009 at 9:11 PM
Low-hanging fruit.
hillbillyjim on April 27, 2009 at 9:17 PM
I love how you say your patience is wearing thin, as if you are saying that if gays don’t tow the line you will punish them. Ha. You have no power to do anything. There is no stopping gay rights and I assure you they don’t need to stay in your good graces to continue to be wildly successful at legislation for such a “small” minority group in America.
dcwvu on April 27, 2009 at 9:24 PM
I think you should go back and try to finish community college.
dcwvu on April 27, 2009 at 9:25 PM
Don’t sound so red-faced hysterical. It doesn’t look good. It makes you look like a fruitloop.
MB4 on April 27, 2009 at 9:43 PM
OK, I see that you have gone from red-faced hysterical to grade school childish. I guess that’s an improvement of sorts.
MB4 on April 27, 2009 at 9:46 PM
Your buddy CP3 is having a rough play-off. He’s the best point guard I’ve seen in a long time, but Denver finally got something out of its talent when it swapped out AI for Chauncey Billups. Still it is a Kobe/LeBron finals.
dedalus on April 27, 2009 at 10:20 PM
dcwvu,
I thought gays were supposed to be witty. Does this mean that they don’t dance or dress well, too?
Star20 on April 27, 2009 at 10:20 PM
Count on it. I, for one, am fucking fed up with their ‘in your face’ attitude. I give a rat’s fuck what you do behind closed doors. Keep rubbing your ‘lifestyle’ in my face, don’t be surprised if I finally shit in yours.
GarandFan on April 27, 2009 at 10:33 PM
Forget about that California b–i—t—c–h, darlings. I’ve got handsome sailors on my mind. Don’t you just looooove sea food, Bunky?
MaiDee on April 27, 2009 at 10:44 PM
That’s par for the course from Teh Gay world. Nice job of beclowning the entire gay world, Guvnor.
Jaibones on April 27, 2009 at 10:56 PM
No kidding. I voted for their damn Prop 8 because I figured they’re entitled to as much misery as straights. But after seeing their hissy fit, stomping on old ladies in Palm Springs, methinks — screw you. You just want to hijack the institution to sue churches for making you feel bad about yourselves.
John the Libertarian on April 28, 2009 at 12:18 AM
Obama would give him lotion, tissues, and an autographed picture of himself.
OneGyT on April 28, 2009 at 12:45 AM
Ah, yes, I remember well the dark days of 1995-1997, when I lived with two gay men in a ghetto. During the day, we would eat feral cats and dodge Church patrols bent on ‘turning us straight.’ Even though I am hetero-sexual, I know for a fact i was targeted by Governor Booosh for re-education. I’ll never forget my public humiliation when I finally left the gay ghetto..I had to demonstrate my hetero sexuality so I could join the mainstream. I left my roommates my ration card and my transistor radio..and I’ve never looked back. Now that gays are being given basic civil rights, I’m able to look myself in the eye again. Thanks to people like you AP, my roommates won’t have to eat garbage and burn animal carcasses for heat anymore. Free at last…
austinnelly on April 28, 2009 at 1:05 AM
What we really need is some kind of cure for homosexuality. We need to isolate the gay gene and then use all this federally funded stem cell research to find a solution to wiping it out and replacing it with the straight gene. Yes, this would impact certain areas of the economy – ticket sales for musical theatre and Barbara Streissand albums would decline steeply but we could allocate TARP funds to lessen the strain.
This is the Audacity of Hope.
Ares on April 28, 2009 at 4:51 AM
Then you also have something in common with this
schmuckguy.JiangxiDad on April 28, 2009 at 5:35 AM
The irony here is as England is quickly turning into Londonistan with all the caving in to Muslims and their cries for Sharia law, this stupid queer is going to be stoned to death in the street. Man, some people are just too stupid. Darwinism really does work. With this homo, it’s now working at least twice, gay and stupid pretty much knocked this bigot out of the gene pool…..
adamsmith on April 28, 2009 at 7:18 AM
I always thought a “bitch” was the one on the receiving end of a gay relationship. Maybe these gay guys are unconsciously revealing inner desires towards her that they can’t understand themselves.
volsense on April 28, 2009 at 8:46 AM
What rights am I guaranteed that gays do not currently have?
Matticus Finch on April 28, 2009 at 9:38 AM
You can probably have your marriage recognized by the state while they probably can’t.
dedalus on April 28, 2009 at 10:04 AM
All these liberals do realize that both Obam and Hillary are against gay marriage, don’t they? Does that make Obama a b!tch and hillary a cu-t?
Bevan on April 28, 2009 at 10:18 AM
I often wonder to myself why a certain sexual preference is given a right. Homosexuals like to call a person a bigot if they do not agree with their position, but lusting after someone of the same sex is not a race and certainly has not been proven to be genetic. I know the Gay community claim this has been proven, but it has not. If this were the case, I guess they could also prove that other sexual attractions are also passed on in our DNA, like Bestiality, Pedophillia or even prefering blondes.
My main concern is what is being done to the religious community. Every time I read a paper it seems some politician is attempting to criminalize religious beliefs by making it a thought crime etc. Also I see a lot of rage from Homosexuals and non-believers directed at people who try to practice Gods commandments.
I used to have the attitude that what they did behind closed doors was between them and their maker. But now they are not satisfied with that deal, instead they are in our school systems indoctrinating our children, in Government writing our laws and in our courts interpreting rights that don’t exist. I really think that people should not be afraid of thinking about this issue and taking a stand.
SGinNC on April 28, 2009 at 10:35 AM
And that’s a “right”?
Matticus Finch on April 28, 2009 at 10:55 AM
According to SCOTUS it is if you marry someone of the opposite sex.
dedalus on April 28, 2009 at 11:01 AM
Gays, gays, gays….. I wonder who’s more intolerant? The Taliban, or the current gay spokespeople?
Honestly, I’m not sure which I would rather be under. There’s no question that the militant gays, if they ran everything like the Taliban does, would act fairly much the same. I probably would rather be under the Taliban though. At least many of my beliefs are okay under the Taliban–a strong family, faithfulness to God, etc. And when they execute me for praying to someone other than Allah, I’m a martyr. When the gaystapo executes me for being “intolerant,” they’ll do their best to be “politically correct” about it. I.E. they will try to destroy me body, soul, spirit, and erase my family name from history.
Hyperbole? Just look at the current gay leaders actions and tell me that if they had sole power to do what they want, I’d be wrong.
Vanceone on April 28, 2009 at 11:08 AM
Marriage turns ‘love’ into an ownership proposition. People shouldn’t own each other anyway. . . but family should be committed to each other come hell or high water.
ThackerAgency
You’re trying to make “ownership” sound negative. Would you feel better if we call it “belonging”? For almost 36 years my wife and I have belonged to each other. Love and committment is a form of ownership, whether you want it to be or not. I sense that you are arguing against the abuse that people can heap upon their “belongings”. If that’s your point, then no disagreement here.
SKYFOX on April 28, 2009 at 11:28 AM
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