Former CIA chief Goss: I can’t believe what a shameless liar Pelosi is
posted at 1:53 pm on April 25, 2009 by Allahpundit
Believe it, champ. And welcome to the club.
He doesn’t name any names but there’s no question who he’s aiming at.
Today, I am slack-jawed to read that members claim to have not understood that the techniques on which they were briefed were to actually be employed; or that specific techniques such as “waterboarding” were never mentioned. It must be hard for most Americans of common sense to imagine how a member of Congress can forget being told about the interrogations of Sept. 11 mastermind Khalid Sheik Mohammed. In that case, though, perhaps it is not amnesia but political expedience.
Let me be clear. It is my recollection that:
– The chairs and the ranking minority members of the House and Senate intelligence committees, known as the Gang of Four, were briefed that the CIA was holding and interrogating high-value terrorists.
– We understood what the CIA was doing.
– We gave the CIA our bipartisan support.
– We gave the CIA funding to carry out its activities.
– On a bipartisan basis, we asked if the CIA needed more support from Congress to carry out its mission against al-Qaeda.
I do not recall a single objection from my colleagues.
The ranking Democratic member on the House intel committee in 2002 was, of course, Madam Speaker. There’s lots more at the link, often in biting language; you’re cheating yourself if you don’t read it all. Goss is opposed, naturally, to show trials on interrogation practices, but then so is 58 percent of the public, just the latest reminder that the nutroots position on this subject is fringe and that they’re destined to have their hearts broken by The One. I wonder if Team Barry will reach out to Cheney and offer him a deal: In exchange for him not releasing those two memos he’s after to prove that torture works, they’ll promise not to prosecute anyone who acted on Bush’s orders. Would Cheney take that deal, though? It depends, I guess, on how much he values his own legacy versus his loyalty to the people who implemented the policy. And, maybe, whether he’s coming around to the Noemie Emery position that torture trials wouldn’t be such a bad thing for the Bushies after all.
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getalife:
You promised you were banning yourself.
And once again you lie. No, the military did not all agree it was torture!!!!!</em>
Terrye on April 25, 2009 at 8:41 PM
Bro … it’s ALL our business. When the stinky stuff hits the fan – ANYWHERE – in the world, who do they call? It is utterly unfair that my uncle died trying to liberate Belgium because the Europeans enabled Hitler for so long. What you don’t understand – is that America gets “called in” sooner or later – and if it’s sooner then WE lose less of our people. If it’s later – we lose MANY. There was nothing wrong with America stepping in to stabilize Iran – and stabilize it we did.
The problem with you – is you’re utterly misinformed and try to apply kindergarten morality with the evil world at large.
The Shah was a damned good ally. So good that we trained Iranian military officers. We trained Iranian pilots. We sold Iran F-15′s (which were our most advanced fighters at the time). We built our most advanced Spruance Destroyers for the Iranian Navy.
But Carter blew it. He put pressure on the Shah to lighten up on human rights violations – and as a result – we got the Ayatollahs and two generations of Islamofascism (thank you Jimmy Carter). And are the human rights violations any less frequent in Iran now? Nope – they are worse. All Jimmy did was change out an oppressive Pro-American Government for an EXTREMELY oppressive Anti-American one.
One that will soon attack Israel.
The Shah was awesome.
HondaV65 on April 25, 2009 at 8:46 PM
The way this works is that the Democrats okay something for as long as it is needed or expedient and then when it is not, they revise history and demonize everyone else.
They do it all the time.
There is a word for it, demagoguery.
The CIA waterboarded 3 people several years ago. The practice was so rare that it was not even done in the 3 years preceding legislation in 2006 that almost banned it. I say almost because even now, there are circumstances in which enhanced interrogation is allowed.
The liberals of course do not really give a damn about this now anymore than they did in 2002, they just see an opportunity to be self righteous a**holes and can’t pass it up. It is useful to them to pretend moral outrage.
Terrye on April 25, 2009 at 8:47 PM
Terrye on April 25, 2009 at 8:41 PM
I never said how long.
Do some research and you will find they did.
They do not want our troops tortured in future wars.
Support the troops.
getalife on April 25, 2009 at 8:53 PM
So, if we stop waterboarding, then terrorists who capture our troops will offer them a tylenol after the peeling away of their flesh with plyers and a blow tourch?
Sounds like a fair trade.
RobertInLexington on April 25, 2009 at 8:58 PM
Talk about shameless liars:
http://blogs.tnr.com/tnr/blogs/the_plank/archive/2009/04/22/memories.aspx
getalife on April 25, 2009 at 8:59 PM
getalife:
As if you support the troops, as if AlQaida, the people who put children into ovens care about what anyone says.
You are a liar, my dear. All the time.
You see this is the thing, I don’t support torture. And who are they? The monolithic military?
So, I don’t support torture, but you and your ilk support defining all sorts of things you really know nothing about as torture so that you can posture and preen and pretend you care about the troops.
And when Obama releases those pics and puts our soldiers in needless danger just to score some political points, I am sure you will still be lying and pretending that you support the troops.
Terrye on April 25, 2009 at 9:00 PM
You honestly think I am going to follow some idiot link to TNR? Snort.
Terrye on April 25, 2009 at 9:03 PM
You see the thing that really pisses off getalife the liar is that more people were not killed here during Bush’s time in office. If only there had been an attack on LA and thousands more Americans had been killed. Just think of the fun that getalife and her ilk would have had with that. But gosh darn the US government just had to go spoil all getalife’s fun and actually try and stop future attacks. And what is worse, they were not always nice about it either.
poor terrorists, poor baby terrorists. I weep for them.
Terrye on April 25, 2009 at 9:05 PM
CK! Thanks for the hallucinogenic flashback. What do I do for an acid stomach now?
There are several former Leftist posters at Power Line who also seem to have migrated over here to blow us kisses.
Del Dolemonte on April 25, 2009 at 9:06 PM
Del Dolemonte:
They are all the same. It is like arguing with the Borg.
Terrye on April 25, 2009 at 9:07 PM
Getalife does support the troops.
RobertInLexington on April 25, 2009 at 9:08 PM
Terrye on April 25, 2009 at 9:03 PM
TNR…isn’t that the home of all that bogus reporting from Iraq a while back? Some idiot named Scott Beauchamp who became the darling of the Left because they so very much wanted to believe his fabrications (lies) and he was actually there…actually was a first hand witness to it all…and then was discovered to be a complete charlatan…and his stories, total and complete out of whole cloth lies.
That TNR?
Whatever happen to Beauchamp? He get a job in the Obama Administration?
coldwarrior on April 25, 2009 at 9:09 PM
“The New Republic”, she says. BWAHAHAHAHA
Del Dolemonte on April 25, 2009 at 9:10 PM
Yes, that TNR, the TNR that wants us to believe that troops in Iraq spend their time running over dogs and making fun of disfigured people. So what if Beauchamp is a liar? As long as he said what their preconceived prejudices told them he was supposed to say…they were happy.
Terrye on April 25, 2009 at 9:13 PM
What happened to Beauchamp? He is probably playing the troll on rightie blogs, telling folks that he supports the troops too. After all, he was one.
Terrye on April 25, 2009 at 9:15 PM
You owe me a new 19″ flat screen monitor if I can’t get this one cleaned up… :-)
And I may need an otorhinolaryngologist after spewing, snorting and aspirating coffee…I’ll send you the bill.
:-)
coldwarrior on April 25, 2009 at 9:20 PM
C’mon Porter, you can believe it. San Fran Nan has lots of practice being a shameless liar. It’s what her cereal-state Liberal constituents demand and expect.
viking01 on April 25, 2009 at 9:23 PM
BTW getahusband’s General who claims torture at Abu Ghraib is definitely a Leftist Democrat-at present the Officer Corps in all branches of the military skews 7:1 Republican.
Taguba is the 1 in 7.
It’s also highly interesting to note that he is an O’bama voter, as (gee, what a surprise) he and his family moved to (gulp) the exact same island O’bama claims to have been born on, the exact same year Barry was supposedly born there. 1961, to be exact.
And surprise number 2-Taguba also served under another Hawaiian 1 in 7, , General Eric Shineski, now an O’bama lackey.
I’ll be driving by Claude Rains’ grave tomorrow and will pass this info along. I’m sure he will be shocked.
Claude BTW served his country (Britain) well in the first World War, even getting gassed by the Germans.
Del Dolemonte on April 25, 2009 at 9:23 PM
Here’s the problem…partisan hacks like us are a very small minority. Most Americans don’t browse conservative or liberal sites like Daily Kos. They’ll be getting their info from the evening news and Yahoo News online etc.(Just like every single person I know and work with.) When they see the thousands of God awful pictures from various prisons…they aren’t going to be buying that line “it was just a few bad apples” anymore.
beekiller on April 25, 2009 at 9:23 PM
My question is this…
Didn’t we as a nation already deal with this? I remember when the pictures went viral a few years ago. Why was no one who is crying now was crying then. Why did they stop? Was it the vast right wing media who was so in the tank for Bush, did they just decide it was a non story?
This is all a big distraction from what is really going on.
RobertInLexington on April 25, 2009 at 9:28 PM
Yeah, we dealt with it by putting soldiers in prison and ruining their lives and all I can say is that “if” they were following orders…and “if” they took the fall for something they were ordered to do…some people high up are punk ass cowardly bitches. If it turns out to be at many prisons and many of our soldiers…sorry but I have a hard time believing that we have that many sadistic men and women in our military. I care about the soldiers and don’t give a damn about ANY of the politicians.
beekiller on April 25, 2009 at 9:38 PM
No wonder there is no accountability for our government.
Too many good little germans.
getalife on April 25, 2009 at 9:43 PM
Yeah, we dealt with it by putting soldiers in prison and ruining their lives and all I can say is that “if” they were following orders…and “if” they took the fall for something they were ordered to do…some people high up are cowardly punks. If it turns out to be at many prisons and many of our soldiers…sorry but I have a hard time believing that we have that many sadistic men and women in our military. I care about the soldiers and don’t give a damn about ANY of the politicians.
beekiller on April 25, 2009 at 9:48 PM
Still waiting for your evidence that all branches of the military called what we did torture. Eespecially a claim from the US Coast Guard, who serve there and have already had one KIA (killed in combat).
Del Dolemonte on April 25, 2009 at 9:59 PM
Don’t you have a date with a late-term abortion home video and a dildo tonight? Nothing arouses the filthy ghouls on your side like a good baby mutilation.
Oh and your phony concern for the well being of terrorists is cute…
ClassicCon on April 25, 2009 at 10:02 PM
Del Dolemonte on April 25, 2009 at 9:59 PM
There are documents from the Army, Navy , Air Force and Marines.
Google it then support them.
Enough with the torture.
Move to a country that supports it.
Get out.
getalife on April 25, 2009 at 10:03 PM
This post is going to anger a few…perhaps more…
No, it is no stretch to imagine, and perhaps find examples abundant, that show that sadistic men and women in parts of our military are, while rare, still enough to cause havoc.
If you get a bit of free time…take a look at the composition of the 800th MP Brigade [EPW] at the time they served in Iraq, and were in charge of Abu Ghraib. Look at those who were charged with sadistic treatment of prisoners at Abu Ghraib…none were exactly what you would call the cream of the crop…far far less. These guys did it all for fun…and lied about all of it to cover their sadism. All of this is a matter of record.
From Karpinski, the brigade commander, on down, seems that whatever went on at Abu Ghraib, as in Vegas, was supposed to stay in Abu Ghraib. And Karpinski never set foot inside Abu Ghraib where all that bad stuff happened. That is dereliction of duty in a nutshell.
And she still claims, despite sworn testimony that shows otherwise, to include Taguba who is now spinning another tune, as well, that she had “orders” to treat the prisoners this way, or at least those in her charge “had orders” to do so?
Thought Justice Jackson pretty much covered this at Nurnberg.
coldwarrior on April 25, 2009 at 10:09 PM
I’ll wait to see when the pictures come out. It will be a very hard sell to most Americans that many or all prisons coincidentally operated by hooding prisoners and making them do all sorts of pervy things with dogs…homosexual acts etc.
And I will take the soldiers words over any yellow politician any day. That is all for now.
beekiller on April 25, 2009 at 10:20 PM
Then next time you plan this ruse (which I seem to recall you have done before, in a fit of pique), you might call it “suspending yourself,” rather than “banning yourself,” which implies the permanent absence of yourself.
In other words, stop promising us good stuff.
Alana on April 25, 2009 at 10:22 PM
I can’t believe what a shameless liar getalife is
Right_of_Attila on April 25, 2009 at 10:23 PM
Dead right, on both counts. The same also goes for the military as well as intelligence professionals.
Send_Me on April 25, 2009 at 10:37 PM
HondaV65,
We sold Iran F14′s not F15′s. Without tons of spare parts, they look good but are mostly grounded. And no telling how much software was left out of the systems.
Highplains on April 25, 2009 at 10:38 PM
This whole thing seems to be a distraction now with the addition of the release of pictures…..I wonder what’s going on in the other hand?
JeffVader on April 25, 2009 at 10:43 PM
Why should anyone be surprised? Barney Frank, Chris Dodd etc just flat out lied about their roles in Fanny Mae and Freddie Mac and the press and public didn’t even notice.
Nobody will bat an eye about Pelosi’s lie, either.
We’ll probably all be dead or wish we were by the end of the year anyway.
darwin-t on April 25, 2009 at 10:48 PM
Don’t forget their photos of their “air force” that turned out to be model planes
darwin-t on April 25, 2009 at 10:50 PM
Food for thought, that’s for sure.
Hillary announces with fanfare that the United States stands behind Iraq, and that things in Iraq are going in the right direction…then, whammo…release old photos of events from several years ago, the Arab street goes nuts, once again, and conditions in Iraq crumble in a blaze of anti_US violence…giving us no option but to get the hell out, Blackhawks and Ospreys landing all over the Green Zone evacuating US personnel, other US forces force marching their way under battle conditions into Turkey, Jordan, or Kuwait, facing huge angry mobs…round the clock C-17 flights in and out of Balad, Al-Assad, al-Muthana and even open stretches of highway, scooping up American service members, leaving equipment behind…
And Obama can then say, with a straight face, as can Hillary…”Well, we tried, we tried real hard to clean up Bush’s mess.”
And the rest, as they say, is history.
Just playing with a scenario. :-)
coldwarrior on April 25, 2009 at 10:53 PM
coldwarrior:
I am not sure that the reaction will be that extreme, however, if it is…Obama will get the blame for releasing the photos. I really doubt that years after the fact most Americans want to see this happen.
Terrye on April 25, 2009 at 11:11 PM
getalife:
I keep telling you we don’t torture. Why do you feel the need to lie and make crap up? Was your mother neglectful? Did your Dad abuse you in some way?
Terrye on April 25, 2009 at 11:16 PM
Aww, don’t keep poking sharp sticks at it…that’s mean.
Get a real big magnifying glass, and if you focus the rays…kewl!! Just sorta bursts into flame. Totally rad!
coldwarrior on April 25, 2009 at 11:18 PM
beekiller:
I doubt very much that they were sit up. If the government had been running the operation, these guys would not have been using camera phones and keeping the pictures either. That seems a bit over the top. I mean really. And I doubt if they would have gotten a bunch of guys in the Reserves who were not even that committed to a career to put in that position.
However, I would not doubt that there might be some copy catting going on. This sort of behavior is wrong and should be punished, but it is not terribly original, if you see what I mean.
Terrye on April 25, 2009 at 11:20 PM
coldwarrior:
Me mean?? Never. I heard that the Commandant at Abu Ghraib said there were times they closed a door to her, would not let her in..and I thought then and there that she was lying. She just let things get away from her. There is no way a general can be told you can not go in there by someone of a lesser rank.
Terrye on April 25, 2009 at 11:22 PM
beekiller:
I could be wrong about this, but I read somewhere that this was not thousands of pics, but 44 of them. I know there were some cases in Afghanistan as well, but still I think that thousands might be over the top.
Terrye on April 25, 2009 at 11:25 PM
In another report I heard dozens of pics. I have never heard anyone say anything about thousands.
Terrye on April 25, 2009 at 11:25 PM
And to think I traded away a genuine 800th MP Brigade brassard from Abu Ghraib for a handful of Korean War era partisan commando patches…
Shudda held on to it, might’ve been able to get a bit more out of it now that interest in things Abu Ghraib have arisen again.
coldwarrior on April 25, 2009 at 11:32 PM
coldwarrior:
Yes. Indeed. I guess we may never know all the stuff that went on there, but it would seem to me that if the military had ordered all that, there would have been greater efforts made to keep it secret and if they had ordered all that I doubt if there would be any pictures to release.
After all, if they were capable of lying about ordering the abuse, I think they would be capable of destroying some pictures.
Terrye on April 25, 2009 at 11:35 PM
I just googled it and according to the Baltimore Sun, 44 pics will be released on May 28th.
That will give the press something to talk about so they won’t notice what Obama is up to. I bet they are also hoping to take the steam out of the Tea Parties. Change the subject. Distract the sheeple.
Terrye on April 25, 2009 at 11:40 PM
The original release/leak of the Abu Ghraib photos was due to one soldier’s disgust at what he had seen, if I recall.
If there was an “order” to do these sadistic things…by this time, we’d have had the full name, rank, service number of any and all who ordered such…
If the military actively engaged in suppressing such things…it’d have been out already.
Conspiracy theorists too often to neglect that conspiracies require people. People have differing needs or loyalties over time. Unless one eliminates all players to a conspiracy…it’ll get out…eventually.
I still find the release of even these 44 photos to be gratuitous. Has no probative value at all. None.
coldwarrior on April 25, 2009 at 11:47 PM
coldwarrior:
Yes, keeping a secret is hard for one person, for hundreds it is impossible.
If I remember correctly a soldier went to a superior officer to report what he had seen and when it was investigated and charges were brought, a relative went to the military and said that if the charges were not dropped pictures would be released. The military refused to drop the charges and the pictures ended up on CBS news.
Terrye on April 26, 2009 at 12:07 AM
You can’t believe anything getalife says.
itsspideyman on April 26, 2009 at 12:26 AM
The 44 pictures are the ones in question in a legal battle with ACLU. The Pentagon will be releasing more with those and they say those will number in the hundreds. But they also say that these will prove they were always serious about investigating allegations of abuse and did take legal and disciplinary action against those found guilty of abuse. Not quite the same thing at all as condoning it or promoting it. Here’s the Yahoo piece on it.
And getaclue, exactly what is your “good little germans” comment supposed to mean?
jusgottabeme on April 26, 2009 at 1:05 AM
I’ve known she was a liar YEARS AGO! Welcome to the club, boys.
apco on April 26, 2009 at 2:08 AM
If you had ever read about it you would know that it was essentially a British idea, the British government petitioned the US for help, were initially rejected, then later convinced the US govt, partially by using the UK’s solidarity with the US during the Korean Crisis (calling in their markers, as it were).
Dreadnought on April 26, 2009 at 3:04 AM
According to you, we already are in a country which supports it.
Maybe you ought to think of moving if that thought bothers you.
Obama Franks Waters LLC — torturers of the world economy.
unclesmrgol on April 26, 2009 at 3:54 AM
Would you please do your part,commit suicide.
Viper1 on April 26, 2009 at 8:57 AM
Who’s watching the bad guys? Anyone? With corruption being fed a thanksgiving feast and our freedom being fluhed down the toilet, who’s watching the bad guys? Is America still something they hate any more now that its being torn to shreds? Are we something to be attacked any longer? We seem to be doing a good job to ourself. If we are something still worth attacking, who he heck is managing our protection any longer?
johnnyU on April 26, 2009 at 8:58 AM
Agreed. Here is some entertainment to get us through to the next tea party protest.
unwashed minion on April 26, 2009 at 9:03 AM
And Cheney would agree to leave the door open to prosecute Bush? I think not.
Then again, remember- the Seinfeld Doctrine.
drjohn on April 26, 2009 at 9:22 AM
It is back. We knew it wasn’t true when promised. Muslims Darwinists and fascists claim it is appropriate to lie if it supports the cause or agenda.
seven on April 26, 2009 at 9:39 AM
He can’t believe she went that route-denial, he isn’t surprised she lied, none of us are surprised she lied.
Dr Evil on April 26, 2009 at 9:48 AM
and she does it with a botox smile to make you believe her.
If she were hung her up by her ankles is it possible for any actual intelligence that she may possess would make it to her cranium, where it would gel into a brain.
MSGTAS on April 26, 2009 at 9:57 AM
A wonderful Sunday morn!Strangelet and getadose thoroughly drubbed and humiliated!I wonder now what the day will bring!
spareadime on April 26, 2009 at 10:29 AM
??
I just have one question actually…cold, I guess this is for you.
Why didn’t someone tell Bush that democracy cannot be forced, so that the Bush Doctrine was doomed to fail?
strangelet on April 26, 2009 at 10:40 AM
Porter Goss: “After the events of this week, morale at the CIA has been shaken to its foundation.”
Yep. That was the plan, Porter.
notagool on April 26, 2009 at 10:54 AM
Why, Porter, you silly boy, lying is what she does best,next to money grubbing, of course, bless her heart. The kids do seem to be throwing a lot of sand out of the sandbox lately. They must think we have an unlimited amount of the stuff, just like money.
Kissmygrits on April 26, 2009 at 11:00 AM
Nancy Pelosi is a dispicable liar.
notagool on April 26, 2009 at 11:10 AM
you know you’re not nearly as SMART as you think you are…uh ever hear of NAZI GERMANY, and IMPERIAL JAPAN???
you know we FORCED democracy on them…and 70 years later, its worked out pretty good hasn’t it??
so the question is, are you a liar, or just ignorant??
here’s a hint why it worked…total war = total victory…get a clue moron.
right4life on April 26, 2009 at 11:15 AM
yeah they want to slide ‘health care’ through so they have more POWER over people’s lives…which is what Obama and the libs are all about…
they’ll be deciding what kind of care each of us gets…kind of Obama’s hero, castro.
right4life on April 26, 2009 at 11:24 AM
r4l, sometimes it’s an exemplary thing to reach for the stars, but there are situations where it is a total waste of your time to ask for the universally impossible.
Yoop on April 26, 2009 at 11:36 AM
“Of course these breasts are real…I can’t help it if they’re like missile-shaped watermelons at age 70.” —-piglosi
ex-Democrat on April 26, 2009 at 11:36 AM
WORST Speaker of the House ever, coupled with the most traitorous Senator Majority Leader ever.
Harry Reid should be in chains, rotting in Leavenworth and on trial for his worthless life.
Fortunately, we have the least qualified, least experienced, most corrupt President ever.
The Democrat Party is a curse on this nation and needs to be wiped from the face of this earth.
NoDonkey on April 26, 2009 at 11:39 AM
NoDonkey on April 26, 2009 at 11:39 AM
That’s what I love about you NoDonkey, you don’t mince words!
Keemo on April 26, 2009 at 11:47 AM
We “forced” democracy somewhere?
Can’t even “force” representative democracy here at home. Lord knows, we need it. [Given time, I would hope we turn that one around...sooner rather than later.]
Taking away the manacles of Arab fascist dictatorship (Ba’athism) or removing the deadly oppression of radical Islamicism…that isn’t something we should welcome?
coldwarrior on April 26, 2009 at 11:55 AM
OT (unless you look at the photo)
I take it that botox doesn’t work on the neck? Or doesn’t she know what it looks like? Looks like a 40 year old face on an 80 year old neck. Weird and spooky, unnatural, she looks worse than she did before the botox. Get a big necklace or something…
sloopy on April 26, 2009 at 12:32 PM
Like duh!!! The only things that come out of Stretchy Pelosi mouth are lies and Botox fumes.
Michelle Dubois on April 26, 2009 at 1:45 PM
Seems to me he could get both if the memos are substantial. Obama would not prosecute CIA memebers who got good information on Al Qaeda in the days after 9/11 would he? If only to avoid the political backlash you would think not, but depends on how good those memos are.
Dash on April 26, 2009 at 2:06 PM
Translation: “I was called on my lies and can’t prove them to be true, so I will change the subject.”
Why do you hate America, kid? After all, in 2004 you voted for a guy who 3 years later said only idiots like yourself join the military.
Del Dolemonte on April 26, 2009 at 2:44 PM
This story needs more pig flu
Ugly on April 26, 2009 at 4:38 PM
That is why I’m confused. I don’t doubt that there are pictures showing prisoners being treated inappropriately. But exactly what purpose is served by the release of those pictures? If servicemembers are guilty of something it is up to the military to address it thru their court system. Other than incite Muslim anger – what good does it do to put the pictures out?
katiejane on April 26, 2009 at 5:11 PM
Purely prurient interest (in an S&M kinda way) and to try to embarrass Bush, no matter what the cost in lives…
coldwarrior on April 26, 2009 at 5:16 PM
coldwarrior on April 26, 2009 at 5:16 PM
+1
Yup
Ugly on April 26, 2009 at 5:19 PM
Apparently Jay Sekulow and the ACLJ have put in a Freedom of Information Request for the minutes of that meeting with Pelosi. I look for the minutes of that meeting to “dissapear” as if Sandy Berger had made a visit.
nelsonknows on April 26, 2009 at 5:38 PM
Why hasn’t Pelosi been hanged for treason yet?
daesleeper on April 26, 2009 at 5:50 PM
Because no one in the GOP has the guts to oppose the National Socialist Democrats.
nelsonknows on April 26, 2009 at 6:00 PM
Botox causes amnesia
Bevan on April 27, 2009 at 8:37 AM
Nancy Pelosi is simply butt-stupid.
It’s would be easy to think that she is the personification of evil.
But she is just too stupid to recognize evil when she sees it.
notagool on April 27, 2009 at 11:28 AM
Seriously? During Memorial Day week?
*slap!*
These guys really do hate the military, don’t they?
RegularJoe on April 27, 2009 at 11:39 AM
Because the skin has been pulled so tight the noose keeps slipping off?
Ever try “hanging” a snake?
right2bright on April 27, 2009 at 12:04 PM
I read somewhere that these security meetings are kept secret, that no (personal) notes are allowed to be taken, and no discussion of them should take place.
This makes it a perfect cover for someone to say “It wasn’t said”.
The security council notes have been found in the past not to be part of the Freedom of Information arena.
right2bright on April 27, 2009 at 12:08 PM
Nancy Pelosi is a terrible liar, all liberals are liars, all conservatives are great Americans. Pelosi is a commie, conservatives are patriotic. Goopers, can’t you come up with some new lines. All your lines are so 2004. You lost the last 2 elections. Shouldn’t you come up with some new material? Fire your writers and hire some new blood. Nobody likes you guys anymore, face up and carry on.
athensboy on April 27, 2009 at 8:37 PM
Someone has punched the clock at the loafer lightener factory.
daesleeper on April 27, 2009 at 9:48 PM
Ah, getalife. When I heard you had banned yourself, I was worried I would never get your response to my rebuttal.
So, when is it going to be.?
Turtler on April 27, 2009 at 11:03 PM
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