Former CIA chief Goss: I can’t believe what a shameless liar Pelosi is
posted at 1:53 pm on April 25, 2009 by Allahpundit
Believe it, champ. And welcome to the club.
He doesn’t name any names but there’s no question who he’s aiming at.
Today, I am slack-jawed to read that members claim to have not understood that the techniques on which they were briefed were to actually be employed; or that specific techniques such as “waterboarding” were never mentioned. It must be hard for most Americans of common sense to imagine how a member of Congress can forget being told about the interrogations of Sept. 11 mastermind Khalid Sheik Mohammed. In that case, though, perhaps it is not amnesia but political expedience.
Let me be clear. It is my recollection that:
– The chairs and the ranking minority members of the House and Senate intelligence committees, known as the Gang of Four, were briefed that the CIA was holding and interrogating high-value terrorists.
– We understood what the CIA was doing.
– We gave the CIA our bipartisan support.
– We gave the CIA funding to carry out its activities.
– On a bipartisan basis, we asked if the CIA needed more support from Congress to carry out its mission against al-Qaeda.
I do not recall a single objection from my colleagues.
The ranking Democratic member on the House intel committee in 2002 was, of course, Madam Speaker. There’s lots more at the link, often in biting language; you’re cheating yourself if you don’t read it all. Goss is opposed, naturally, to show trials on interrogation practices, but then so is 58 percent of the public, just the latest reminder that the nutroots position on this subject is fringe and that they’re destined to have their hearts broken by The One. I wonder if Team Barry will reach out to Cheney and offer him a deal: In exchange for him not releasing those two memos he’s after to prove that torture works, they’ll promise not to prosecute anyone who acted on Bush’s orders. Would Cheney take that deal, though? It depends, I guess, on how much he values his own legacy versus his loyalty to the people who implemented the policy. And, maybe, whether he’s coming around to the Noemie Emery position that torture trials wouldn’t be such a bad thing for the Bushies after all.
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Tokyo rose.
diogenes on April 25, 2009 at 1:57 PM
Just because Nancy and her plastic surgeon discussed Botox doesn’t mean she actually knew it was going to be used.
Christien on April 25, 2009 at 1:57 PM
That whole deal with Pelosi just smacks of the Iraq War vote, which many Dems voted in FAVOR of, then when it became inconvenient, backtracked and said “Whoa, I only thought it was to be used as a THREAT, not actually carried out!”
The worst part about it, there is a large segment that will buy into the BS without question.
JamesLee on April 25, 2009 at 1:58 PM
To Bush and Cheney, advice for you…Don’t negotiate with terrorissts.
tomas on April 25, 2009 at 1:58 PM
Deal ? Have you forgotten who won ?
elgeneralisimo on April 25, 2009 at 1:59 PM
I’m just going to copy my comment from the headlines thread
Actually, it conjures up images of Benedict Arnold.
I’m glad Goss is speaking out. These machinations by the left have stepped past their usual stomping grounds of insanity and idiocy into straight-up treason.
For the record, no one complained about anything we were doing until after Saddam Hussein wa pulled from that spider hole and the left started feeling safe enough, again, to start back in on their seditionist babble.
progressoverpeace on April 25, 2009 at 2:01 PM
She was for waterboarding before she was against it.
Wethal on April 25, 2009 at 2:01 PM
Just now figuring that out?
What was your first clue?
Kini on April 25, 2009 at 2:02 PM
Why the surprise at the blatant lying? Politicians do this all the time and get away with it.
Release the minutes of these meetings. Then let’s watch Madam Speaker squirm and try to weasel her way around when the truth is there for all to see.
Weebork on April 25, 2009 at 2:02 PM
How in the world can Pete Goss call Nancy AAAAAAA-Cup Polosi a Liar! Oh Ma God! Not so! To Republicans, to lie means to speak an untruth. But to Hairless Reid, Nancy AAAAAA-Cup Polosi, Rahm “the F-Word” Emmanuel, David AxleDick, and of course The Messiah, to lie means doing whatever it takes to ram Sh__ down the citizens throats FOR THEIR OWN GOOD. Is that clear now Comrades?
Cinday Blackburn on April 25, 2009 at 2:03 PM
Can we emphasize Porter Goss Chairman of the House Permanent Committee on Intelligence instead of Porter Goss former CIA Chief?
Might be a minor semantic point to some, but it does serve to skew the message if his House position in 1997-2004 is not made more salient, especially as it pertains to Pelosi’s animated denials of having any knowledge whatsoever about EIT’s and her avid support for the same over 5 years ago.
coldwarrior on April 25, 2009 at 2:03 PM
They will draw back a bloody stump.
Old Hippie Vet on April 25, 2009 at 2:05 PM
Really Porter? Pelosi is the poster child of shameless liars.
Branch Rickey on April 25, 2009 at 2:06 PM
Funny how it works out. The investigation that would take out Nancy Pelosi is the very same investigation that could likely cement a criminal legacy for Bush/Cheney.
jonknee on April 25, 2009 at 2:06 PM
I’ll take waterboarding any day…rather than having to listen to Nancy Pelosi or Harry Reid spout their nonsense…
landlines on April 25, 2009 at 2:07 PM
They’ve already stated publicly (and of course the statements may come with expiration dates) that the interrogators will not be punished.
As far as anyone else? All the lawyers did was give advice. The recipients were free to accept or reject it.
The Bush administration? Well, as Goss has laid out, the chief witnesses for the defense would be Pelosi and Rockefeller. I bet Cheney would looooove to be there when Pelosi was called to the stand.
A defense lawyer’s dream cross-examination (if ever there was a hostile witness, it would be Nan, which would permit leading questions. “Isn’t it true, Mrs. Pelosi, that you were present… Isn’t it true…. Just answer ‘yes’ or ‘no’, please.”)
Cheney has no need or reason to deal. They can’t go after him without going after Bush, and they wouldn’t go that far. He’ll laugh and say, “Go ahead. Make my day.”
Wethal on April 25, 2009 at 2:09 PM
One of the larger problems here is that the MSM won’t report it. Case in point: I was talking with a liberal acquaintance of mine and I mentioned the remarks concerning Canada made by our esteemed homeland security chief, and he had no knowledge of it. The reason, he gets all of his news from CNN and the NYT. This is a highly intelligent and articulate gentleman who knew nothing about it! So, is it any wonder that the average citizen is blissfully ignorant of the shenanigans being perpetrated by the most ethical Congress, evah? Unless they tune in to Fox News or Hot Air, they will never find out.
College Prof on April 25, 2009 at 2:10 PM
tomas on April 25, 2009 at 1:58 PM
I think that would also include domestic insurgents as well; Like Obama, Reid & Pelosi, HUH?!
journeyman on April 25, 2009 at 2:10 PM
Since when is 42% “fringe”? That’s a pretty damn large plurality of the American public. I wouldn’t call that “fringe” at all.
Michael in MI on April 25, 2009 at 2:11 PM
Such a wench!
Eyvonne on April 25, 2009 at 2:12 PM
Nancy believes in nuance. Also the toothfairy and magical unicorns that can spin “free” energy. Must be the air in San Francisco…or the water.
GarandFan on April 25, 2009 at 2:15 PM
Nancy Pelosi, Madam of the House of Ill-Repute, is a professional politician – it is a natural trait for such creatures to lie, obfuscate and dodge the truth as much as it is for real Americans to Pledge Allegiance to our Flag. I’m willing to bet she lies to her husband about his ‘performance’.
SeniorD on April 25, 2009 at 2:15 PM
You are right. I call it a target rich environment.
Old Hippie Vet on April 25, 2009 at 2:17 PM
guys
GUYS
Cut the Plastic Speaker of the House some slack.
All the face work, anesthesia, botox, and other potent chemicals that have been swirling around her head have obviously affected her cognition.
blatantblue on April 25, 2009 at 2:18 PM
Let’s charge Nancy Pelosi with treason and hang her. I assure you 58% of America would go along with that. And the benefits would extend into all walks of American life. The economy, family values, defense, intelligence, healthcare, immigration, a fair and balanced press, spend as you go, political integrity, financial regulation, taxation and last but not least the combined IQ of the House of Representitives would climb 50, maybe 60 points. America would actually stand a chance of survival.
Griz on April 25, 2009 at 2:18 PM
Perhaps she’ll take a page out of Clinton’s testimony: “That depends on what the meaning of ‘is’ is.”
Q. “Were you in the room when waterboarding was discussed, Mrs. Pelosi?”
A. “That depends on what the meaning of ‘in’ is.”
Wethal on April 25, 2009 at 2:18 PM
How in the world do we continue to suffer this lying, stupid and mean fool as Speaker of the House? What is the matter with the House that they elect and keep in office this shameless, self-promoting liar in such an important position? Alas, it is a reflection on us! We, The People no longer care enough to keep monsters like Pelosi from tearing our country apart.
People of California, you have to power to turn this traitor out of office when she comes up for reelection. Congressmen, you have the power to elect another Speaker that really cares about this country. DO IT!!!!
JonR on April 25, 2009 at 2:18 PM
Does botox affect one’s memory?
d1carter on April 25, 2009 at 2:19 PM
It’s not 42%, it’s 28%…
doriangrey on April 25, 2009 at 2:20 PM
I find it troubling that Speaker Pelosi can lie with impunity but I understand why she did. There is NO downside to her lying. The media doesn’t care about the truth.
AYNBLAND on April 25, 2009 at 2:20 PM
I am just loving me some serious Dick right now….Cheney, that is.
RepubChica on April 25, 2009 at 2:20 PM
As more facts, and unfortunately intelligence sources and methods are made public, that 58% figure will grow.
But, major damage has already been done by Obama’s ham-handed attempt to assuage the Left while trying to appear fair and balanced to the Right. Once the DoJ/Office of General Counsel redacted memos were released by Obama, something he could have stopped in an instant, with US Code to back him up, that proverbial Pandora’s Box was opened.
What few intelligence allies we still have [down greatly over the past several months] will be more circumspect in what they choose to share, where they choose to cooperate or assist, and the end result will be an Intelligence Community on par with your local Department of Agriculture Farm Agency. And those on the tip of the spear…well, they’ll be so ultra-careful, so intense in their efforts to not even appear to push the envelope, they might as well not go in to work anymore for the good it will do the Nation.
When most of America sees this…hoping they do not get their news solely from the MSM, or CNN or MSNBC, or John Stewart, I’d expect a lot of folks to stop and think carefully at the dangers we face and will face when we no longer have an ability to stop those dangers.
I’d expect that mere 58% to grow.
coldwarrior on April 25, 2009 at 2:21 PM
Naughty, naughty Chica. :-)
coldwarrior on April 25, 2009 at 2:22 PM
Keep it up Pelosi you stupid POS, you’ll eventually get all of us killed.
rplat on April 25, 2009 at 2:23 PM
“The suggestion that we are safer now because information about interrogation techniques is in the public domain conjures up images of unicorns and fairy dust.”
heh.
the_nile on April 25, 2009 at 2:23 PM
Spotted Dick?
blatantblue on April 25, 2009 at 2:24 PM
Apparently Nan would rather we think that she is dumb as a rock & incompetent to be on any important committee than to admit she knew about waterboarding. Fear of Move-on is strong I guess.
katiejane on April 25, 2009 at 2:25 PM
It’s stunning, well, insulting actually, the swiftness and the ease with which she lies. It’s as if she thinks we were just a nation of buffoons, unable to see her for what she is. Even more insulting is that this woman professes to be a Catholic where it is taught from early childhood that lying is a sin. She lies without so much as a bat of an eye. Well, that part’s not true but you get the drift.
scalleywag on April 25, 2009 at 2:26 PM
doriangrey on April 25, 2009 at 2:20 PM
Thanks, but 28% is still worrisome, which was my point of not just dismissing this as “fringe”. Then again, maybe it’s just that I consider fringe to be around <20%.
I dunno. I’m a 100% cynic when it comes to the American public now. After the elections of 2006 and 2008, I never ‘misunderestimate’ the stupidity and BDS of the American people and their tendency to eat up any BS the mass media, Left and Obama feed them.
I hope you’re right, but after believing with all my heart that the American people weren’t stupid enough to give power to the despicable traitors of the Democrat Party in 2006 and weren’t stupid enough to give the White House to a despicable man in Obama, I have lost all faith in the American people to think logically and with sanity.
Michael in MI on April 25, 2009 at 2:26 PM
I want ALL of the minutes of these meetings published. And I want Pelosi impeached and put on trial for treason.
What a nasty whore she is.
Key West Reader on April 25, 2009 at 2:27 PM
Most whores come up with flimsy excuses wrong when caught by the authorities.
Even political whores.
fogw on April 25, 2009 at 2:28 PM
Well…there it is.
That Pelosi is a malignant, congenital liar is no surprise to anyone, including her only supporters, the malignantly anti-American left. They routinely threaten to strip her and beat her in the street if she fails to do as they have assigned her to do. She is their botoxed and aged slave.
That Obama is a malignant liar has been documented here by Allah and Ed ad nauseum – “expiration dates” – but the apolitical and wildly ignorant middle of America still find it hard to believe that this serious blackish gentleman can be the one we’re talking about in such harsh terms. He seems very nice, and has a wife and two daughters, and that’s nice, too. He wears a helmet when he rides his bicycle.
Conveying the gravity of his subversive and suicidal presidency requires a tone that eludes me, obviously. Great success and million$ will accrue to that person who can speak persuasively to these ignoramuses, and Godspeed to him or her.
Jaibones on April 25, 2009 at 2:28 PM
Most whores come up with flimsy excuses
wrongwhen caught by the authorities.Even political whores.
Durn it.
fogw on April 25, 2009 at 2:30 PM
I think there should be blanket immunity and dump the whole thing on the DoJ.
Release all the memos and docs, not just the two Cheney asks for.
Goss’s argument that revealing torture techniques is endangering the country is specious and sillie. Just how is that endangering America?
What is likely more dangerous to America is revealing how we bent the rules when we needed to.
And I violently object to this…..
No.
We are simply not going to do this anymore….we can’t afford it.
We can’t be the Superawesome World Police. We can’t afford it and it makes people hate us.
The Bush Doctrine was an Epic Fail……in practice, with the American people, and with the global community.
The Highlander said (and Lincoln too!) Right makes Might.
Democracy will spread far better if we lead by example and believe in the power of our memes.
And one of our memes is America doesn’t torture.
strangelet on April 25, 2009 at 2:30 PM
A sad, but nonetheless spot on, estimate of the American voting public.
I, too, would hope that, soon, we will awake from our lugubrious slumber.
coldwarrior on April 25, 2009 at 2:31 PM
Does this mean that Pelosi will pre-empt the guests of the Sunday talking-head shows to establish her talking points and fix them in the minds of the ill-informed.
Porter Goss needs to get out in front of the cameras with this information.
Collegeprof: Your remarks at 2:10 reflect some of my own experiences of supposedly intelligent people who limit their understanding of events through the filter of CNN or PBS. The person who questioned my facts did not know of Napolitano’s memo re the right wing, veterans, and anti-abortion groups as a source of “terror.”
onlineanalyst on April 25, 2009 at 2:31 PM
Thanks to the traitorous democraps.
Zorro on April 25, 2009 at 2:33 PM
How does Pelosi get away with this nonsense that she was briefed on waterboarding but didn’t know it was actually going to be used?
She, of course, just thought it was something that they might, possibly consider using in the future if they caught Satan himself and he wouldn’t talk using all of the traditional methods of interrogation? Look, why did she think they were briefing her on the method? Just to kill a little time. WTF? How do you get to play this dumb, yet be taken seriously as a leader in the country?
Even if she thought it was just something they mightuse, she would have had to object if she thought waterboarding was so bad. If she didn’t, she gave approval by her refusal to object.
Now that Obama opened this can of worms and everyone is trying to cover their backside, I hope there will be prosecutions and show trials. Let’s get it all out there and see who knew what and what we learned. Let’s do it.
I have a feeling that most people will think that what Bush authorized was reasonable when weighed against the prospect of saving thousands of American lives, and they’ll realize that their Democratic heroes knew all about it and were OK with it too.
Does anyone remember when the CIA was supposed to operate in the shadows and we didn’t feel the need to splash their activities all over the front page of the newspapers? I guess there are no secrets anymore.
Thanks, Obama.
All you did was weaken a nation, that’s all you did. (apologies to Jack Nicholson)
JohnInCA on April 25, 2009 at 2:35 PM
To be fair, it might be the truth that Pelolsi didn’t understand this; given her very limited ability to understand things in general. I am not sure having someone that stupid in the position of Speaker ofhthe House is a good idea, but when she claims stupidity, I’d guess that is a fair assesment.
MikeA on April 25, 2009 at 2:36 PM
Pelosi opened a can of worms and sock puppet gladly send a torpedo directly at her bow….both acting out of complete liberal stupidity.
As for those that think exposing these things is good for America, you’re as stupid as Pelosi at the minimum. You’ll see exactly how much ‘good’ this does our country in the coming year.
All we have to do is be nice and the jihadists will be nice in return, eh? Well, you stand in the front of the line to meet them then. Dumbass liberals.
Spiritk9 on April 25, 2009 at 2:36 PM
As a corollary, if that is where people are getting their news, is it any wonder that The Won’s approval ratings are so high? The MSM is no longer critical nor investigative — it is a propaganda arm of the administration and the DNC. If the only news folks get comes from Associated Press, The Times (any of them), NBC, CBS, ABC, CNN, MSNBC, etc. then it would be highly illogical for those people to have anything other than a favorable impression of the administration.
AZfederalist on April 25, 2009 at 2:39 PM
Then you will be disillusioned.
Humans are still not very smart, most of them, anyway.
Schadenfreude on April 25, 2009 at 2:39 PM
“Goss is opposed, naturally, to show trials on interrogation practices, but then so is 58 percent of the public, just the latest reminder that the nutroots position on this subject is fringe…”
rplat on April 25, 2009 at 2:39 PM
You’ve no idea at all as to what is contained in “all the memos and docs” do you? Not even a hint.
Lives…that of our own, and that of those many many others who have put themselves at grave risk to assist us (and I do not mean solely those involved in rendition nor EIT’s) but in the overall targeting of and collection of vital foreign security information that is not from CNN, or select news correspondents, or gleaned from the foreign press.
Even within the rubric of “liaison” with various diminishing foreign intelligence services, we do run unilateral operations, and these, these are part and parcel to the entire framework of our War on Terror. And much of this is contained in volumes of “memos and docs” that would be made public should any President be stupid enough to declassify them en masse to satisfy a public’s jejune desire to know.
As one foreign intelligence service official told me years ago, “I’d be happy to provide that information to you, but you Americans have no concept of secrecy.”
coldwarrior on April 25, 2009 at 2:39 PM
What a DUMB LYING SACK of SH*T this CU*T is ! If America needs to be ashamed of anything, it is not the CIA which did the dirty work to keep this country safe, but for electing this dumb power hungry broad to be the first female Speaker of the House.
I cannot count the number of times this twit has exposed her incredible stupidity just in the last few months alone – America losing 500 million jobs a month, the Tea party being astroturfed, and now this. Last year she wanted to thank Iran for “helping” defeat the Mahdi army in Basra and was openly mollycoddling with Assad wearing a piece of crap scarf on her head to show her “modesty”.
Does she really think that no one will expose her lame lies?
What is it that makes these dumb San Franciscans elect this lying, vengeful piece of garbage every two years ?
Sorry, i needed to get this off my chest. Pelosi is such a national shame.
nagee76 on April 25, 2009 at 2:39 PM
Question:
Where’s the story of the Diane Feinstein husband’s theft of $28B from TARP? That was just one week ago. Is nobody following up on this? ARe we supposed to just forget about her $28B theft?
Folks, we need to shine the light on these cockroaches. Join your local meetup group or Tea Party. We’re gaining momentum daily and it’s up to WE the People to clean our own house and take out the trash.
Key West Reader on April 25, 2009 at 2:40 PM
Want to bet it’s about time for the Obama’s to get a cat, or hamster or…, hey look over THERE and pony?
MikeA on April 25, 2009 at 2:43 PM
If there were blanket immunity, there wouldn’t be much of anything for DOJ to do, as all potential defendants would have been made immune from prosecution.
Wethal on April 25, 2009 at 2:44 PM
I sent this story’s URL to Nancy at http://speaker.house.gov/contact telling her to read it.
I hope it brightens her day…
Fuzzlenutter on April 25, 2009 at 2:45 PM
It wouldn’t matter. Barney Frank insists that he never pushed for banks to give mortgages to people who couldn’t afford them, just like he never denied that FM/FM were in deep financial trouble, and just like he never blocked legislation to clean up FM/FM before the housing bubble burst . . . . even though there are vides all over YouTube showing Frank doing those things.
These people are pathological liars. They won’t ever admit they’re lying, even when the proof of their lies is staring them (and everybody else) in the face.
AZCoyote on April 25, 2009 at 2:47 PM
Nice thought, but do you think she holds a care for even a microsecond of what “the little people” think?
/Statists are inherently arrogant and elitist people
AZfederalist on April 25, 2009 at 2:48 PM
This is the SAME as Abeer Kassem Al-Janabi.
Do you remember her AllahP?
We had a big fight about her and the Menchaca-Tucker video.
You told me if Green and company were guilty it would be revealed.
But first you hollered at me not to slime our troops, because….we didn’t do that.
Well they were guilty.
And we did do that.
strangelet on April 25, 2009 at 2:50 PM
We are seeing Sharia law Incorporated in the U.S. It’s OK to lie if it benefits you in the long run.
Just look at Pelosi,Rangle,Murther,”O” Dumbo, and all the rest of the socialists in Congress.
Let me see now if a woman gives birth and doesn’t want it it’s OK to kill it by letting it succumb.
So then “O” Dumbo condones murder!!!!!!!!!!!!
It’s not in the Bible but is in the Quran!!
“Thall shall not kill”
It’s just a shame his mother did not feel the same way.
I hope she rots in hell for what she brought on mankind!!!
Rick007 on April 25, 2009 at 2:52 PM
I hate lying. Lying is always the first step to bigger sins per se. Unfortunately, others don’t seem to worry about the lies these people tell. Look at how much Biden and Obama have lied. I just gets burried, and people are too blind by their ross colored sun glasses to care.
deidre on April 25, 2009 at 2:52 PM
The DoJ can determine of laws were broken, even if there is no prosecution.
strangelet on April 25, 2009 at 2:53 PM
They all lied about torture.
Give her a free pass like the ones that ordered torture cons.
getalife on April 25, 2009 at 2:56 PM
strangelet, by your account might as well abolish the CIA. It is by its definition/purpose, and must be, a secret and, yes, shady (in a very good way) operation.
You know very little of it.
Schadenfreude on April 25, 2009 at 2:56 PM
Tokyo rose.
diogenes on April 25, 2009 at 1:57 PM
It’s more like “Tokyo C**t:.
RWLA on April 25, 2009 at 2:58 PM
Hogwash!
You’re again talking out of a hidden orifice.
rplat on April 25, 2009 at 2:59 PM
getalife on April 25, 2009 at 2:56 PM
Your self-emposed ban didn’t last very long, did it?
kingsjester on April 25, 2009 at 3:00 PM
Waterboard Nancy Pelousi and her dem denier colleagues to get the truth out of them. (Maybe not Barney Frank, he’s probably into water sports).
eaglewingz08 on April 25, 2009 at 3:01 PM
And this would accomplish what? More expenditure of taxpayer monies to essentially hold a moot court?
The entire rationale for the DoJ/Office of General Counsel series of discussions over several years was to examine in detail what laws were applicable and what actions would constitute violations of those laws. As the citations of those laws were made part of the released memos already, why establish yet another bureaucracy to provide the same?
If to assuage a portion of the public? Let that portion of the public assume the costs for such on their own, on paper and printer ink, internet fees, and their own time.
President Obama is fully within his capacity as chief law enforcement officer of the United States, head of the Executive Branch, under US Code, to stop all of this, today, before dinner, if he chooses to do so. It is what executive leadership does.
coldwarrior on April 25, 2009 at 3:01 PM
I never said how long.
Lets not be hypocrites cons.
How many times did w lie and say we don’t torture?
Cons should be supporting Pelosi too.
getalife on April 25, 2009 at 3:03 PM
Worst. Political class. Ever.
Even Thunderbolt, my invisible ghost unicorn is upset with the Democrats.
rbj on April 25, 2009 at 3:05 PM
If works the other way. There’s no reason for immunity, unless you first know if a law was broken. Your idea of “blanket immunity” assumes lawbreaking. It also raises the question of who is included in “all.” In the course of an invetigation, new potential defendants can emerge.
I think what you’re contemplating is some kind of “truth commission” in which everyone has to tesifty, but no one is at risk of being prosecuted. The DOJ doesn’t do this. Never has, as far as I recall, but I only clerked for them (several decades ago). Such “commissions” are usually done out of the legislative branch. And there is NO way that Pelosi would ever appear.
Wethal on April 25, 2009 at 3:08 PM
I thought you banned yourself?
“Torture” is being burnt alive by flaming jet fuel cascading 500 feet down an elevator shaft-with you innocently standing at the bottom.
Del Dolemonte on April 25, 2009 at 3:08 PM
Torture did not stop it.
It spawned more terrorists and the military is against it.
Support the troops.
getalife on April 25, 2009 at 3:10 PM
getalife on April 25, 2009 at 2:56 PM
Well, guess it didn’t ban itself and it didn’t modify the script behavior after all. Still the same stupid talking points pulled from a relational database. Unfortunately, all of the talking points in that database are irrational and easily refuted — shows what you get from a state-run public education system.
AZfederalist on April 25, 2009 at 3:11 PM
Typical liberal. Expiration: less than 24 hours.
Support Pelosi?
Only with a very large trebuchet – and then let ‘er loose.
tru2tx on April 25, 2009 at 3:12 PM
Fighting back spawns more terrorists. So are we to stop fighting back?
thomasaur on April 25, 2009 at 3:13 PM
Their position on most subjects is fringe, but that won’t stop them from pretending that they’re the ones who are “mainstream”.
If she wants to prosecute herself along with all those cons, sure.
ddrintn on April 25, 2009 at 3:13 PM
Anyone care to bet as to whether that briefing was taped?
I can guarantee you it was; plus contempareneous memos were filed by the briefers when they got back to headquarters.
Go ahead, Speaker Pelosi, keep lying. One more leak will sink your ass.
patch on April 25, 2009 at 3:13 PM
Torture? Pelosi denies waterboarding. She’s worse than a crook ,shes a democrat.
the_nile on April 25, 2009 at 3:13 PM
Dealing with Obama, is like dealing with the devil. He’ll betray it. Just look how many times he’s lied, back tracked, and taken back his promises, or words.
capejasmine on April 25, 2009 at 3:14 PM
tru2tx on April 25, 2009 at 3:12 PM
She lied like your heroes.
You can’t have it both ways cons.
getalife on April 25, 2009 at 3:14 PM
“The first job of a president is to safeguard his country and fellow citizens, which Bush did, to the apparent dismay of the opposition. Usually, an investigation takes place after someone has failed in his duty, to find out what went wrong so that it can be changed and improved on. But no attacks on U.S. soil in the seven-plus years between September 11, 2001, and January 20, 2009, is a record of success.”
the_nile on April 25, 2009 at 3:14 PM
Plumbing’s backed up again… someone bring the plunger
DarkCurrent on April 25, 2009 at 3:15 PM
Sorry, but Clinton already tried that. His non-response to al Qaeda’s attack on the World Trade Center in 1993 spawned a bigger attack in 2001. So apparently Barry should not ignore terrorism and get blowjobs from women young enough to be his daughter, like Clinton did. Not fighting back has been tried by Clinton; didn’t work.
Wethal on April 25, 2009 at 3:15 PM
The heroes don’t deny waterboarding , your ilk does.
the_nile on April 25, 2009 at 3:16 PM
Dems doing the same ole song and dance… “I didn’t know“.
RalphyBoy on April 25, 2009 at 3:16 PM
God, i love dick cheney.
kelley in virginia on April 25, 2009 at 3:16 PM
the_nile on April 25, 2009 at 3:16 PM
BS, they lied many times.
“We don’t torture.”
Be consistent is supporting the lies about torture.
Pelosi is among your heroes.
getalife on April 25, 2009 at 3:18 PM
EXACTLY. In this case, the terrorist being Obama.
1. Nobody is going to get put in jail because they used an interrogation technique that was approved by Congress and worked.
2. The cat is already out of the bag. The interrogation techniques have been published. What’s left to release that Cheney has to worry about protecting? Probably very little or nothing.
Obama started this, now it takes someone with rocky mountain oysters to end it. Go for it, Cheney, and no deals with the political terrorist and tyrant, Obama. Make Obama withdraw his scorched earth political tactics, or else. Make them realize that Botox-girl has as much to lose as everyone else, and Obama will go down in political flames trying to pursue it.
Daggett on April 25, 2009 at 3:18 PM
she lied like you did, wacko.
can you feel your face?
right4life on April 25, 2009 at 3:18 PM
Torture did not stop it.
It spawned more terrorists and the military is against it.
Support the troops.
getalife on April 25, 2009 at 3:10 PM
Well that self ban didn’t even last 24 hours. LOL
Spawned more terrorists? Do you think either way, that terrorists would just decline in numbers, had they not used interrogation methods, such as water boarding?
Spain elected a new president, in the thinking that it would be protected from terrorism, if they withdrew their troops. Guess what. They were attacked anyway. The thinking, that if we withdraw, back down, pander, meander, or cave in, will end all this, is a disaster in the making.
Regardless of what we do, or don’t do, their will be hate toward America, and Americans. Iran isn’t going to stop wanting to nuke Israel, just because Obama extends a hand of understanding.
capejasmine on April 25, 2009 at 3:18 PM
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