WaPo: Release of torture memos political
posted at 10:11 am on April 24, 2009 by Ed Morrissey
Buried deep within the Washington Post’s front-page story on the decision to release the OLC memos, Barack Obama’s motivation gets revealed. Former VP Dick Cheney’s criticism that Obama’s policies had made America less safe apparently stung more than the White House admitted. Unfortunately, Obama may have gone a long way towards proving Cheney’s point in allowing himself to get baited (via Michael Goldfarb):
Several Obama aides said the president’s decision was in line with his frequent criticism during the campaign of President George W. Bush’s policies on interrogations at secret prisons. On his second day in office, Obama banned the prisons and the tactics in an executive order.
The aides also said they hope the memos’ release will focus public attention on the coldness and sterility of the legal justifications for abusive techniques, with Obama telling reporters in the Oval Office on Tuesday that the documents demonstrate that the nation lost its “moral bearings” in the Bush years.
A source familiar with White House views said Obama’s advisers are further convinced that letting the public know exactly what the past administration sanctioned will undermine what they see as former vice president Richard B. Cheney’s effort to “box Obama in” by claiming that the executive order heightened the risk of a terrorist attack.
Rather than doing that, though, it prompted members of his own administration to publicly corroborate Cheney. The White House tried to suppress the key part of Dennis Blair’s memo that acknowledged the success of the interrogations in thwarting at least one major terrorist attack against the US, the “Second Wave” airliner attacks after 9/11 aimed at Los Angeles. The CIA separately insisted that its actions protected America from attack. Cheney himself went back on the attack, describing some of the memos that Obama didn’t declassify, and launched a high-profile campaign to get them released.
On Capitol Hill, Obama’s strategy also backfired. Republicans balked at the limited disclosure. Pete Hoekstra has demanded that the White House release the memos from Congressional briefings on the interrogations, which will show that Democratic leadership knew exactly what was happening and didn’t object at all to it. Even one of Obama’s few allies in the GOP on this issue, John McCain, warned Obama that he was setting up a “witch hunt” that would turn America into a “banana republic”.
Instead of the headlines being about what the Bush administration sanctioned, they became about Nancy Pelosi’s denial and then non-denial of her knowledge on waterboarding interrogations, the success of the interrogations in preventing an attack, and Obama’s lack of testicular fortitude in sticking with his original position to let sleeping dogs lie. Small wonder that he began backtracking in earnest yesterday when meeting with Congressional leaders.
Now we have confirmation that Obama planned this all along as a political attack against a man who hardly matters on the national political scene any longer – or at least he didn’t until Obama decided to pick a fight with him. Just as with his strange attack on Rush Limbaugh, all it did was elevate his opponent and diminish himself.










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Such a short-sighted administration.
BadgerHawk on April 24, 2009 at 10:13 AM
Political? Gee, do ya think?
UltimateBob on April 24, 2009 at 10:15 AM
How’s that Hopey-Changey post-political openness workin’ out for ya, libs?
jgapinoy on April 24, 2009 at 10:16 AM
Remember that George Soros formed the Democrat-MoveOn organization to “move on” from the Clinton impeachment. George Soros and MoveOn now OWN the Democrat Party. All the Democrats must now fall in line with heir lunatic, anti-American fringe.
Remember that George Soros is a godless atheist who never did see anything wrong with President Clinton’s victimization of women and the Democrat perjury that resulted from it (remember the Democrat battle cry “it’s about SEX!”), and viewed Clinton’s impeachment as motivated by the pure political avarice by what Democrats called “the vast, right-wing conspiracy”.
Soros, MoveOn, Leahy and all their Leftist Democrat minions are simply trying to get even for the Clinton impeachment. Democrats, therefore, openly lie that the CIA methods constituted “torture”. They are screaming the word TORTURE at the top of their lungs like an
angry crazed lunch mob, hoping nobody will notice what their truly petty motivation is.
In fact, the Democrats are neutralizing the CIA, they are slandering the previous administration and they are permanently destroying this nation’s ability to protect its citizens from attack, all because Obama is following the orders of the Democrat REVENGE crowd. To Democrats, political retribution is more important than our safety from terrorist bombs.
Democrats tried for 8 years to impeach Bush just to get even for the Clinton Impeachment, and they failed. That’s why Democrats are still so angry, even though they now have their man in the White House. They are not just after Bush, they are after the entire American establishment which understood that Clinton did indeed commit impeachable offenses.
The only way to fight Democrats is to expose their true motivations. If Democrats are not defeated, you and your family will never be free from radical muslim terror. Make no mistake that Democrats will ALWAYS side with those who want to either kill you and your family or take your freedoms away from you.
jay12 on April 24, 2009 at 10:17 AM
Cheney just OWNED Obama.
No one messes with Cheney.
Obama just dug himself a deep hole he can’t get out of.
jencab on April 24, 2009 at 10:17 AM
Obama is covertly and overtly politicizing this issue
This is a direct attack on our military.
William Amos on April 24, 2009 at 10:17 AM
Oh crap! Messed this one up and Chrysler is going to declare bankruptcy next week. Time to do a primetime press conference and say mildly conservative things to hoodwink the public.
WashJeff on April 24, 2009 at 10:18 AM
Oops, not “lunch mob”. Sorry.
jay12 on April 24, 2009 at 10:18 AM
He keeps misjudging the American poblics’ reaction to these Leftist projects he keeps floating out, like the Veterans’ Medical Bills. Almost like he’s listening to a combination of one or more foreign advisors and our own Far Left.
kingsjester on April 24, 2009 at 10:19 AM
…and Bush stealing the election 2000.
WashJeff on April 24, 2009 at 10:19 AM
Worst.
President.
Ever.
There, I said it.
Religious_Zealot on April 24, 2009 at 10:19 AM
Bring it on! I say, have these trials and let all the info be released. Put the darn Dems under oath and let this administration be ruined.
becki51758 on April 24, 2009 at 10:20 AM
If the DOJ is the President’s lawyer like the last two, the story is correct. He is not.
The DOJ will have no choice but to prosecute.
Much more will come out like this:
http://www.latimes.com/news/la-na-interrogate24-2009apr24,0,5884388.story?track=rss
Gates said we have to deal with it because there is a very graphic Red Cross report on torture coming out.
getalife on April 24, 2009 at 10:20 AM
That’s nice, but what is Michelle wearing?
Laura in Maryland on April 24, 2009 at 10:20 AM
jencab
+1
As Robbie Kennedy put it,
Obama is Cheney’s indentured servant.
maverick muse on April 24, 2009 at 10:20 AM
Good thing the adults are in charge now.
rightside on April 24, 2009 at 10:21 AM
Welllllllll duh.
29Victor on April 24, 2009 at 10:21 AM
maverick muse on April 24, 2009 at 10:21 AM
Link Kos or HuffPo. More believable.
rightside on April 24, 2009 at 10:22 AM
WTF. He just can’t help but do everything possible to keep the attention on Bush and off him. That clearly crosses a line. It will be smearing the entire military to take cheap shots at the previous administration.
BadgerHawk on April 24, 2009 at 10:22 AM
cheney and his gang will lawyer up.
It is far from over.
The DOJ said it will take a year.
getalife on April 24, 2009 at 10:23 AM
Keep the drooling monkey base focused on Bush so they don’t realize just how badly they are being fooled by the dolt they elected.
Dirty Chicago sleaze political hackery operating at peak efficiency. Sure am glad so many of my fellow Americans decided that Slimeball Obowa was the right guy for the job.
Bishop on April 24, 2009 at 10:23 AM
self inflated tunnel vision
maverick muse on April 24, 2009 at 10:23 AM
Obama thinks he’s still in Chicago, where his wimpy scheming probably worked because of his skin color.
Time to wake up.
amkun on April 24, 2009 at 10:23 AM
“Good thing the adults are in charge now”
Stop..you’re killing me BWAHAHAH
Bevan on April 24, 2009 at 10:23 AM
Beck just said that we need to keep Sandy Berger away from all the documents. Heh.
kingsjester on April 24, 2009 at 10:25 AM
Humpty Dumpty,..we all know how that turned out. His lack of executive experience is starting to shine through. He’s relying entirely on his political advisors because that’s the only thing he really understands. Unfortunately for him, they are pretty short sighted.
a capella on April 24, 2009 at 10:25 AM
I’m sure we will be reading the opinion of Meghan McCain on this subject before long but before that, allow me to post.
This is yet another example of the democrat party doing anything and everything for party power over security of the nation. Only a political hack would consider doing this. But when MoveOn threatens your reelection bank account, the nations security comes in distant second or third at best…….
Disgusting.
JeffinOrlando on April 24, 2009 at 10:25 AM
And it goes on
Obama set to release some gitmo detainees inside the US real soon
William Amos on April 24, 2009 at 10:25 AM
Ever wonder how the Left can bemoan the “loss of our moral bearings” over our treatment of terrorists who want to destroy us while denying that abortion of our own babies reflects on that same moral compass?
katiejane on April 24, 2009 at 10:25 AM
He certainly didnt because this mess is waaay bigger than what Nixon did.
becki51758 on April 24, 2009 at 10:25 AM
The other possible explanation is that this was released as a diversion to take attention and discussion away from not only a number of Dem scandals…Feinstein, Harman and Rattner…that broke at the same time, but also last weekend’s move to make a backdoor nationalization of the banking system.
There’s a pattern of this…Limbaugh, AIG bonuses..and not surprising with Carville and Begala pulling the strings here as they did in the Clinton administration. They stir up a controversy at the time that they try to slip something through the media attention…and to a degree it has worked. Anyone see much about the scandals or the nationalization of banks this week?
Now that the news cycle of those have passed, he’s backing away, yet again, from the question of investigations…it’s a cynical manipulation of the public discourse…this is a dangerous administration…they have shown a willingness to profess the exact opposite of what they are in fact doing and to mislead and lie.
Watch for this tactic to be used again moving foward. It’s like a magician…don’t watch the hand he is waving dramatically, watch the hand he is hiding to see what is really going on.
AmericanUnderground on April 24, 2009 at 10:26 AM
William Amos on April 24, 2009 at 10:17 AM
From that article:
“Snarling dogs and enforced nudity were among the techniques used to force terror suspects to talk at Baghdad’s Abu Ghraib prison.”
Who knew that supermax prison techniques were actually war crimes?
Bishop on April 24, 2009 at 10:27 AM
Obama is Derlect in Duty
jp on April 24, 2009 at 10:27 AM
This is a very dangerous game. If there’s a successful strike on one of our cities now, the Democratic party will cease to exist. How can they not realize how stupid they are being?
Dr. Charles G. Waugh on April 24, 2009 at 10:27 AM
Will sean man up?
No.
getalife on April 24, 2009 at 10:27 AM
Less of a duh than most conservatives would expect. I sent Dr. K’s analysis of this issue from the roundtable to my liberal wife earlier this week. I don’t think she knows much if any of the merits of the torture debate. Dr. K’s words made sense to her, she didn’t mind the show trials, but thought the politics were to Obama’s advantage. Upon further review, Obama does not agree with her.
This is a fight worth fighting. Obama sounds duplicitous, loses his healer status, and VP Cheney has nothing to lose and everything to gain in restoring his reputation.
BRING IT ON.
Angry Dumbo on April 24, 2009 at 10:28 AM
heh. like george foreman went on the attack, and we all know what happened. we all know what happened to the clintons and mccain. you’ve faced obama for over two years and still haven’t learned his rope-a-dope?
sesquipedalian on April 24, 2009 at 10:28 AM
What bothers me is how Obama seems confident that he he won’t have to worry about the next president coming after HIM, for something. How can that be?
Star20 on April 24, 2009 at 10:29 AM
Still running the Alinsky playbook but not understanding what the tactics mean.
He’s clueless.
You can’t destroy reputations of others by “speaking truth to power” when YOU are the one with the power.
He also can’t act as an individual because he’s now responsible for a GROUP. So Pelosi’s blatant lie now reflects on him.
Meanwhile we’re GIVING Chrysler to Fiat (while YOU pay for the union insurance and Chrysler warranties on existing cars) and trying to take over control of all the banks.
Pass the popcorn.
Skywise on April 24, 2009 at 10:29 AM
Obama – “aaaaaaaaaand the new strategy to prevent Manmade Disasters is to uhhhhhh, publicize Michelle’s guns.”
marklmail on April 24, 2009 at 10:29 AM
jay12
+1
I agree with your assessment.
jencab
+1
Some say Cheney is our best Vice President ever. I admire him greatly.
And I love reading the thread here at Hot Air. You guys and gals are terrific!
rishika on April 24, 2009 at 10:29 AM
jay12 on April 24, 2009 at 10:17 AM
Soros also cut his teeth issuing eviction notices to Jews and confiscating their property at the behest of the SS in WWII.
A former Nazi collaborator owns the Dhimmi party. How appropriate.
PimFortuynsGhost on April 24, 2009 at 10:29 AM
Dr. Charles G. Waugh on April 24, 2009 at 10:27 AM
No game doc. The DOJ will deal with it.
Adults are in charge.
getalife on April 24, 2009 at 10:29 AM
I wonder if Pelosi and Rockefeller will be consideed material witnesses or accessories. Meanwhile, anything remotely resembling another terrorist attack on the homeland falls exclusively at Barry’s feet.
a capella on April 24, 2009 at 10:30 AM
Sean Hannity Offers Keith Olbermann $1000000 For Every Viewer Over The 1000 Mark
carbon_footprint on April 24, 2009 at 10:30 AM
So are you offended that Pelosi lied?
Skywise on April 24, 2009 at 10:30 AM
Agreed, but it’s tough to expose them for being Anti-American, when everything Anti-American is constantly marketed as the highest form of patriotism throughout academia and the MSM.
Loxodonta on April 24, 2009 at 10:30 AM
I heard that Montana would take some of these terrorists too. Im thinking them being in American jails is going to be worse than being at Gitmo.
becki51758 on April 24, 2009 at 10:31 AM
This guy better man up, there is no telling what he is going to do when he feels insulted. You can’t be the POTUS and be so thin skinned. What a baby.
Cindy Munford on April 24, 2009 at 10:31 AM
Hey, calm down, people! It was just another rookie mistake. What do you expect from a guy with so little expereince in on the national/international stage. There will be lots more to get upset about in the coming few years, and so far his inexperience has just caused the nation embarassment. There’s really only been minor damage to our national security. Give him a break, he hasn’t gotten anybody killed yet –so what’s the problem? Wait until he screws up big time with Pakistan, Iran or North Korea. Then you can get upset!
BillyRuffn on April 24, 2009 at 10:32 AM
Obama set to release some gitmo detainees inside the US real soon
William Amos on April 24, 2009 at 10:25 AM
Isn’t there a halfway house across from 1600 Pennsylvania Ave. where these darlings can take up residence?
NebCon on April 24, 2009 at 10:32 AM
Really?
The same ones that can’t figure out how to work a PC?
Or TurboTax?
Skywise on April 24, 2009 at 10:32 AM
It was hilarious to hear of the Canadian socialist newspaper irate about Napolitano referencing her as a Bush Throwback.
Obama isn’t the only one stuck on stupid still blaming Bush for Obama’s mistakes.
For supposedly being so hip on cultural trends, Obama is his own throwback, and the ones who don’t get that are too young and dumb to know the score glaring in front of their own Pepsified nose.
maverick muse on April 24, 2009 at 10:32 AM
hahaha
becki51758 on April 24, 2009 at 10:32 AM
This will kill the gop when it is over.
Start another party cons.
Torture is not American.
getalife on April 24, 2009 at 10:33 AM
A puppy on her lap!
shick on April 24, 2009 at 10:33 AM
OT/ George Soros indirectly admits he caused US fianancial collapse
Previously on my blog
Today
William Amos on April 24, 2009 at 10:33 AM
Saul Alinski’s fall from grace…. Looks like Rules For Radicals isn’t working out so well on a natioanl level.
katy on April 24, 2009 at 10:33 AM
Word is its a crazy puppy too!
becki51758 on April 24, 2009 at 10:34 AM
So true.
froginthesky on April 24, 2009 at 10:35 AM
William Amos on April 24, 2009 at 10:33 AM
He bet huge for the housing bubble to pop and won.
The bankers bet huge and lost.
You are blaming the wrong ones as usual.
getalife on April 24, 2009 at 10:35 AM
I heard that Montana would take some of these terrorists too. Im thinking them being in American jails is going to be worse than being at Gitmo.
becki51758 on April 24, 2009 at 10:31 AM
Nope. Solitary confinement or grouped together in a restricted wing. Either way they will have all the comforts of home as well as constant attention from a sympathetic media and ACLU lawyers lobbying on their behalf.
I would feel very nervous living near or working at one of those prisons.
Bishop on April 24, 2009 at 10:35 AM
F’N George Soros
William Amos on April 24, 2009 at 10:36 AM
Now that’s funny. Poor Obama. Such a small man in a big, big world. What he’s doing is making himsel look small and weak. One day he’ll realize that, but he’s much too immature and full of himself to realize it now. He’s still counting on his popularity to get him through his term, which is why he has to go give a speech so often. Boosts his ego. But when the real men in the world look at how he is trying to paint his own countrymen in a bad light, and they’re seeing it unfold right before their very eyes, they’ll all see what a coward he truly is. He’s opened the Pandora’s box and it’s probably the worst thing for our country that he could ever have done. I’m sad for those who served our country and tried to keep us safe, from the military to the FBI to the DHS and everyone in between because this tells them the POTUS has no respect or appreciation for what they do. They can’t trust this president.
scalleywag on April 24, 2009 at 10:37 AM
I think this was the best change of subject Obama could come up with to make people stop talking about Napolitano and DHS turning millions of Americans into political dissidents and many mainstream views into samizdat.
Beagle on April 24, 2009 at 10:37 AM
The interesting thing is that this was meant to be a distraction from other failures.
I’ll give the Obama administration this; they put alot of creative effort into their distractions.
I did not say they are good distractions but they put much effort into it anyway.
Eventually they are going to get dizzy and fall down from all the spin they put on this.
I would prefer they didn’t humiliate themselves (and our nation) when they do.
shick on April 24, 2009 at 10:37 AM
Letting Americans die because you’re too p*ssy to waterboard is unAmerican, troll.
blatantblue on April 24, 2009 at 10:37 AM
William Amos on April 24, 2009 at 10:36 AM
True, they are taking their business to China. They have the money.
getalife on April 24, 2009 at 10:37 AM
I dont blame Soros I blame the idiots in the Democratic Congress and Barack Onama for selling out to him.
William Amos on April 24, 2009 at 10:38 AM
I’ll pass this info along to the late Claude Rains when I drive past his grave today. I am sure he will be shocked.
Del Dolemonte on April 24, 2009 at 10:38 AM
William Amos on April 24, 2009 at 10:38 AM
I blame the losers.
The bankers.
getalife on April 24, 2009 at 10:38 AM
Dang..I was hoping they would be in the general public with all those big a$$ criminals. Maybe getting beat up or gang raped…oh, they may enjoy that. Anyway, I would be nervous if I was near there too.
becki51758 on April 24, 2009 at 10:39 AM
BO cant make this go away. He opened Pandora’s box hoping it would unleash a nail in the GOP coffin,but instead this gamble will plague him forever. Anytime you criminalize the patriots who made the hard decisions that were necessary to make in order to prevent the loss of human lives in this country, you waken the sleeping dragon of the protective defences that we Americans feel for our troops/people we put in those positions. Since Obama’s stance on rendition hasnt changed from Bush’s stance,I am truly inclined to believe that as long as the prisoners are hidden deeply in some other country,where the press cant get pictures- that Obama feels its ok to “interrogate” them. Hypocrisy.
canditaylor68 on April 24, 2009 at 10:39 AM
I’ll take that $1000 per second of waterboarding. I’ve seen at least a dozen wimpy journalists do it.
I’ll pay $1000 to see Olbermann do the Al-Qaeda beheading.
Beagle on April 24, 2009 at 10:39 AM
You mean the ones heavily invested in Fannie May?
Barney Frank made out like a bandit, didn’t he.
Skywise on April 24, 2009 at 10:40 AM
blatantblue on April 24, 2009 at 10:37 AM
9/11 happened and they are still out there.
The FBI said torture does not work.
Your argument is debunked .
getalife on April 24, 2009 at 10:40 AM
LOL… how friggin’ idiotic is that? Just because no one wants to be “waterboarded”, that doesn’t mean anything other than it’s an unpleasant experience. Yeah… so?
It’s SUPPOSED to be unpleasant!!
I wouldn’t do it for $1000.00 per second either, but what does that prove? Again, nothing except that I’m glad that I’m not a terrorist and it won’t be used on me.
Liberalism really should be listed as a mental disorder.
Nineball on April 24, 2009 at 10:40 AM
I’d totally take that bet, but I’m not rich. Every second for me would be a sweet, sweet mortgage payment. For Hannity to ‘man up’ the stakes would have to be considerably higher.
I apolgize to everyone for letting retard troll get me off thread topic here, but the thought intrigued me.
BadgerHawk on April 24, 2009 at 10:40 AM
Yes, I’ve wondered that many times. We’re talking about people who freak out over waterboarding but will fight to the death to make sure this procedure is A-OK:
According to nurse Shafer, the baby was alive and moving as the abortionist “delivered the baby’s body and arms – everything but the head. The doctor kept the baby’s head just inside the uterus. The baby’s little fingers were clasping and unclasping, his feet were kicking. Then the doctor stuck the scissors through the back of his head, and the baby’s arms jerked out in a flinch, a startle reaction, like a baby does when he thinks he might fall. The doctor opened up the scissors, stuck a high-powered suction tube into the opening and sucked the baby’s brains out. Now the baby was completely limp.”
CDeb on April 24, 2009 at 10:40 AM
Just a little perspective. VP Cheney has more insight in the last 20 years in the administration than childish Obama can get his little head around in 100 days. Even Bush had a lot of good news he kept confidential because at Least Pres Bush was taught how to act like a President. Obama has no clean mentor to have taught him how to lead. He has never been a leader. Ayers , rev wright, blagojevech all not examples of functional mentors.
seven on April 24, 2009 at 10:41 AM
Cheney has been lawyered up for years. Has he ever lost a case?
Del Dolemonte on April 24, 2009 at 10:41 AM
And once Americans again die in another devastating attack, the blood is on the hands of his Badministration and all of the trolls that supported him in his quest to systematically destroy the defenders of American liberty.
blatantblue on April 24, 2009 at 10:41 AM
Beagle on April 24, 2009 at 10:39 AM
Are you sean?
If not, it is not the bet.
getalife on April 24, 2009 at 10:41 AM
I’d love to know, but doubt we ever will, who was leading that 500 billion dollar run on the banks last year.
BadgerHawk on April 24, 2009 at 10:41 AM
Oh yeah. Black Liberation Theology, pedophilia, NARAL, NAMBLA are great examples of moral bearings.
Topm
marinetbryant on April 24, 2009 at 10:42 AM
Hannity will offer Keith 1,000 for every second that Keith has an intelligent thought. The money is still there.
William Amos on April 24, 2009 at 10:42 AM
We are just enjoying the show as it builds to a climax. That’s okay, right?
Cindy Munford on April 24, 2009 at 10:42 AM
Good point. None of those clowns in Washington are mentioning rendition. Rendition sounds about the same as those techniques the libs are crying about.
Of course, that was sanctioned by Bill Clinton, so its Ok.
becki51758 on April 24, 2009 at 10:42 AM
He has not been charged yet silly.
getalife on April 24, 2009 at 10:42 AM
I hereby offer Olbermann $10,000 to undergo a partial birth abortion.
Will Keith man up?
CDeb on April 24, 2009 at 10:43 AM
When the next attack hits us the American people will be marching in mass on the White House and the Capital demanding that heads role!!!! Shortsighted indeed.
jbh45 on April 24, 2009 at 10:43 AM
Pelosi is suppose to be holding hearings but Im sure its more of an attempt to cover up the dems involement.
Think of it what is the best way to change an investigation other than to hold a white wash hearing declaring that “Banks” are the reason for the economic collapse and not the true culprits ? The dems are gonna rush their findings to a sympathetic MSM to get their version of events out.
Another reason the GOP sucks. The RNC should have had investigators out there pushing to get the real story.
William Amos on April 24, 2009 at 10:44 AM
I’ll pay $1000 to see Olbermann do the Al-Qaeda beheading.
Beagle on April 24, 2009 at 10:39 AM
LOL! Yep, I will give another $1000 for every second that Keith doesn’t poop his drawers as a knife is slowly inserted into the side of his neck.
A bonus $500 for every second he can endure being poisoned by a dirty radiation bomb.
Finally, a whopping $10,000 cash if he can jump off a burning skyscraper and survive the fall.
Bishop on April 24, 2009 at 10:45 AM
Oh, I surely hope so. Twelve months or so of DOJ and Democrat self-waterboarding will be most entertaining and enlightening.
karl9000 on April 24, 2009 at 10:46 AM
i think i have a perfect excuse for Nancy Pelosi.
stormin1961 on April 24, 2009 at 10:46 AM
becki51758,
Actually, extraordinary rendition is far worse. That’s where we send suspected terrorists to places like Saudi or Egypt for actual torture. They use electricity, pliers, and hoses. You know, real torture. Obama kept extraordinary rendition.
Don’t leave out the “extraordinary” or “irregular” because ordinary rendition is an actual legal term for handing someone to a different jurisdiction. Happens all the time with no torture involved.
Beagle on April 24, 2009 at 10:47 AM
Pelosi and gang have no doubt lawyered up, too.
Wethal on April 24, 2009 at 10:47 AM
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