Rasmussen: 58% think Obama endangered nat’l security

posted at 10:54 am on April 24, 2009 by Ed Morrissey

If Barack Obama hoped to convince America that Dick Cheney was wrong about Obama making America less safe by releasing the interrogation memos, the latest Rasmussen poll shows he badly miscalculated.  Despite his own high personal approval ratings and Cheney’s low scores, 58% of respondents believe that Obama endangered national security.  Only 28%, far below the numbers of his own party, believe it helped America enhance its image abroad (via Power Line):

Fifty-eight percent (58%) believe the Obama administration’s recent release of CIA memos about the harsh interrogation methods used on terrorism suspects endangers the national security of the United States. The latest Rasmussen Reports national telephone survey found that 28% believe the release of the memos helps America’s image abroad.

Thirty-seven percent (37%) of voters now believe the U.S. legal system worries too much about protecting individual rights when national security is at stake. But 21% say the legal system is too concerned about protecting national security. Thirty-three percent (33%) say the balance between the two is about right.

If anything, Rasmussen gives the poll an optimistic spin for Obama. The crosstabs are devastating.

  • 58% said the Obama administration should not investigate the Bush administration on interrogations, while only 28% wanted investigations.  Democrats split evenly on the question, 42%-42%, and only 22% of independents wanted investigations.  Only self-professed liberals approved of investigations, and only by a 58%-31% majority.
  • Similar numbers appear on whether Obama damaged or enhanced American security with this release.  Democrats actually lean towards damage by a tiny margin, 41%-40%, while independents overwhelmingly believe Obama damaged national security, 65%-23%.
  • None of the age or gender demographics give Obama an approval rating on these two questions above 37%.  Every single age and gender demographic believes by a wide majority that Obama damaged national security and should not conduct investigations into torture allegations from the previous administration.
  • Only the under-$20K demographic has a majority believing that Obama should investigate the Bush administration.  Every other income demographic believes otherwise, by solid majorities.  Every income demographic believes by significant majorities that the release of the memos damaged national security except the under-$20K demo, which holds that view by plurality (39%-35%).
  • Americans in every demographic are more inclined to believe that the US legal system worries too much about individual rights rather than national security.

Prior to the release of the memos, Obama could have just ignored Cheney and let his accusations fade.  Instead, he decided to tackle him head on, and turned Cheney’s accusation into a self-fulfilling prophecy.  It’s hard to imagine how a President with personal approval ratings in the mid-50s could score so badly on this, unless Americans have concluded that Obama’s doing real damage to national security.

Blowback

Note from Hot Air management: This section is for comments from Hot Air's community of registered readers. Please don't assume that Hot Air management agrees with or otherwise endorses any particular comment just because we let it stand. A reminder: Anyone who fails to comply with our terms of use may lose their posting privilege.

Trackbacks/Pings

Trackback URL

Comments

Comment pages: 1 2

But 21% say the legal system is too concerned about protecting national security.

I can’t even read that without choking.

Did they poll Al-Queda?

mankai on April 24, 2009 at 10:56 AM

The dems have learned to politicize everything and anything for political gain.

There is not one thing nice about the left wing in this country. They have gone from foolish to dangerous.

William Amos on April 24, 2009 at 10:56 AM

Obama’s election endangered our national security.

His latest actions only further that.

UltimateBob on April 24, 2009 at 10:56 AM

The sound of opportunity knocking…

Bruno Strozek on April 24, 2009 at 10:58 AM

•Only the under-$20K demographic has a majority believing that Obama should investigate the Bush administration. Every other income demographic believes otherwise, by solid majorities. Every income demographic believes by significant majorities that the release of the memos damaged national security except the under-$20K demo, which holds that view by plurality (39%-35%).

Gee, what a surprise. The Glass Ceiling in Chief is succeeding in lying to poor people, just like every other Democrat.

Odie1941 on April 24, 2009 at 11:00 AM

If the conservatives had any leaders, they would continue to drive this home and build on this number.

Otherwise the media spin will drop that number into the ~30′s within a month.

cntrlfrk on April 24, 2009 at 11:00 AM

Only the under-$20K demographic has a majority believing that Obama should investigate the Bush administration.

We now know how much getalife makes.

loudmouth883 on April 24, 2009 at 11:02 AM

But… but… but… we haven’t been attacked yet! That proves Obama is a boon to our security. And we were targets before Obama (nevermind we weren’t attacked since 9/11). But now that he closed Gitmo (well, he said he would close at some point… he mentioned it a while ago and never got back to it) and ended “torture” (which Congress already knew about and hasn’t even happened as such in many years), that will assure no one messes with the US! Look at all the progress we’ve made telling our enemies (like the UK, Canada, and Israel) that we will not suffer their foolishness. Not only are we safer, but our entire national security problem is SOLVED.

Wineaholic on April 24, 2009 at 11:02 AM

Why do we care what the population thinks about what endangers or doesn’t endanger the population. In the same way most people are ignorant of basic economics, most Americans don’t know jack sh*t about what makes us safer. Asking for their opinion is the ultimate waste of time.

That said, Obama surely didn’t need to release those memos, and serves no ones interests in doing so. But goddamn, most American’s can’t point to Iraq on a map, how the hell are they supposed to make informed decisions on what keeps us safe?

ernesto on April 24, 2009 at 11:04 AM

Another perfectly passed football for Michael Steele to fumble?

amkun on April 24, 2009 at 11:05 AM

Whats Meg Mccains opinion?

the_nile on April 24, 2009 at 11:05 AM

But goddamn, most American’s can’t point to Iraq on a map, how the hell are they supposed to make informed decisions on what keeps us safe?

ernesto on April 24, 2009 at 11:04 AM

Obviously they can’t. Obama got elected, didn’t he?

And I like how you imply that a vast majority of Americans are stupid. I wish I could be as smart as you.

loudmouth883 on April 24, 2009 at 11:06 AM

58% Say Release of CIA Memos Endangers National Security… But forty-nine percent (49%) of voters now rate Obama as good or excellent on national security issues.

the onion?

sesquipedalian on April 24, 2009 at 11:06 AM

But when it’s announced he has a 100% approval rating on his 100th day, none of this will matter.

/

JammieWearingFool on April 24, 2009 at 11:07 AM

So it’s the young broke dumb ones that think Obama should go for it. Yah, let’s let them run our country.

Bob's Kid on April 24, 2009 at 11:07 AM

check out the Front Page of the USA Today

they are using one of those bogus/skewed AP polls and running with it, “Public says Obama first 100 days a Huge success” …something along those lines.

jp on April 24, 2009 at 11:07 AM

Obama’s election endangered our national security.

UltimateBob on April 24, 2009 at 10:56 AM

Yep…

alexraye on April 24, 2009 at 11:08 AM

Curious to see Gallop’s results on Monday.

The average of both will give us a fair and balanced meter.

AprilOrit on April 24, 2009 at 11:08 AM

ernesto on April 24, 2009 at 11:04 AM

I agree there. I know tons of people who have no clue on what is going on. They know nothing about the economy, China, Pakistan, North Korea, etc. As long as they have their plasma tv’s, they are happy.

becki51758 on April 24, 2009 at 11:09 AM

how the hell are they supposed to make informed decisions on what keeps us safe?

ernesto on April 24, 2009 at 11:04 AM

Obama will keep releasing classified memos and other information that should remain secret. That will allow us and our enemies to make more informed decisions.

WashJeff on April 24, 2009 at 11:09 AM

Nothing takes precedence over his fragile, perverted ego. What a dangerous shame this man is.

rplat on April 24, 2009 at 11:09 AM

But wait, his approval and popularity are soaring. The liberal manufactured polls would never lie!

Grafted on April 24, 2009 at 11:10 AM

Why do we care what the population thinks about what endangers or doesn’t endanger the population. In the same way most people are ignorant of basic economics, most Americans don’t know jack sh*t about what makes us safer. Asking for their opinion is the ultimate waste of time.

That said, Obama surely didn’t need to release those memos, and serves no ones interests in doing so. But goddamn, most American’s can’t point to Iraq on a map, how the hell are they supposed to make informed decisions on what keeps us safe?

ernesto on April 24, 2009 at 11:04 AM

Yep. Exhibit A: Obama got elected.

amerpundit on April 24, 2009 at 11:10 AM

The White House phone has been ringing at 3am, sadly for Obowa it’s always the primates from MorOn.org and CodePinko demanding action in return for their previous investments.

You promised the galaxy during the campaign, Obowa, and the weed-pullers who constitute your base want their own personal stars now. Reap what you sow.

Bishop on April 24, 2009 at 11:11 AM

Obama is a threat to national security

Releasing memos is only a part of the way he threatens security. He spends too much on pork that is wasted than on defense. His unpatriotic appointment of Napalitano says it all.

seven on April 24, 2009 at 11:12 AM

Zero pandered while LA burned.

John D on April 24, 2009 at 11:12 AM

It’s just like Joe Biden said!

JohnJ on April 24, 2009 at 11:13 AM

Did you ever know a dem who could stop themselves from leaking any natl secret? Instead of tea bags, we should be sending boxes of Depends to DC. Nancy’s been spinning so much lately, she can’t even get the words out without dancing all over them. Someone should send her a prompter.

Kissmygrits on April 24, 2009 at 11:13 AM

Obviously they can’t. Obama got elected, didn’t he?

And I like how you imply that a vast majority of Americans are stupid. I wish I could be as smart as you.

loudmouth883 on April 24, 2009 at 11:06 AM

Lowest Common Denominator. Are you suggesting that the lowest common denominator of American intelligence is somehow high? Theres 300 million of us for crying out loud, must i walk on eggshells rather than admit that yes, a giant chunk of that isnt exactly mensa material?

ernesto on April 24, 2009 at 11:14 AM

Another perfectly passed football for Michael Steele to fumble?

amkun on April 24, 2009 at 11:05 AM

Nope, just another 4 page letter in the mail, with a self addressed envelope begging for more money, that I kindly return to him empty.

Knucklehead on April 24, 2009 at 11:14 AM

But when it’s announced he has a 100% approval rating on his 100th day, none of this will matter.

/

JammieWearingFool on April 24, 2009 at 11:07 AM

107%… you failed to include the numbers from Chicago.

mankai on April 24, 2009 at 11:14 AM

would reaching 50% approval in the first 100 days be a story?

cpr on April 24, 2009 at 11:14 AM

58% Say Release of CIA Memos Endangers National Security… But forty-nine percent (49%) of voters now rate Obama as good or excellent on national security issues.

the onion?

sesquipedalian on April 24, 2009 at 11:06 AM

Nope. The National Education Association, the MSM, and most of academia and the entertainment industry.

Logic Left.

Loxodonta on April 24, 2009 at 11:15 AM

Lowest Common Denominator. Are you suggesting that the lowest common denominator of American intelligence is somehow high? Theres 300 million of us for crying out loud, must i walk on eggshells rather than admit that yes, a giant chunk of that isnt exactly mensa material?

ernesto on April 24, 2009 at 11:14 AM
You quilified your statment with “most americans”. I for one take offense to that.

loudmouth883 on April 24, 2009 at 11:16 AM

Prior to the release of the memos, Obama could have just ignored Cheney and let his accusations fade. Instead, he decided to tackle him head on, and turned Cheney’s accusation into a self-fulfilling prophecy.

In my mind, this sums up the teleprompter presidency. Supremely confident in his own abilities, he repeatedly leads with his chin and repeatedly gets cold-cocked by people who know what they’re talking about. Not a smart strategy when you’re punching above your weight. How long before someone like Cheney lands a knockout blow?

landshark on April 24, 2009 at 11:16 AM

58% think that the President of the United States endangered the Country???!!!! For petty politics???

Would Obama’s actions make him subject to IMPEACHMENT?

They seem so much worse than Clinton’s perjuries.

jay12 on April 24, 2009 at 11:21 AM

28% of America is pusillanimous liberals.

kirkill on April 24, 2009 at 11:21 AM

Pride, arrogance falling…

sound familiar.

Like evil Rove says – he should not rely on his Popularity to run the country (paraphrase). And that’s exactly what he has done.

Reality slaps hard.

poppieseeds on April 24, 2009 at 11:21 AM

Coming soon to a VFW near you. Barry Obama urinal targets.

there it is on April 24, 2009 at 11:22 AM

Where in the HELL is Michael Steele on this stuff? WHY is it WE have to be the ones (meaning AP and Ed) bringing this stuff to the fore?

WHY?

I am SO EFFING PISSED at the R’s for letting opportunities like this float by like an insignifigant cloud in the sky.

44Magnum on April 24, 2009 at 11:22 AM

You quilified your statment with “most americans”. I for one take offense to that.

loudmouth883 on April 24, 2009 at 11:16 AM

Would most human beings be less offensive??? Its the truth regardless. If most Americans weren’t stupid American Idol wouldn’t beat Presidential debates in the ratings. I could go on. I suggest you get a thicker skin.

ernesto on April 24, 2009 at 11:22 AM

How can this be good for Michelle’s children?

kirkill on April 24, 2009 at 11:22 AM

This is all just a distraction from vital coverage of the First Puppy.

aero on April 24, 2009 at 11:22 AM

ernesto on April 24, 2009 at 11:04 AM

I’m right there with you that a sizeable chunk of Americans are stupid, on economic and political matters at least. It doesn’t mean they’re stupid people, just that they haven’t prioritized being knowledgeable on this stuff very high.

Polls are just basically a way for polticians to formulate answers. Leading by polls is a terrible way to govern.

BadgerHawk on April 24, 2009 at 11:23 AM

And did all 57 states weigh in on this poll? What about Venezuela?

kirkill on April 24, 2009 at 11:24 AM

So a quick turnaround by Obowa after he gets a look at these numbers? The man is a windsock, I’d be surprised if he didn’t cook-up some sort of official excuse to delay or stop the pics from being released.

Bishop on April 24, 2009 at 11:24 AM

Not a big fan of Bill O’s…but he’s right. If we get hit…HE GONE!!!

LtE126 on April 24, 2009 at 11:26 AM

Instead, he decided to tackle him head on, and turned Cheney’s accusation into a self-fulfilling prophecy.

And, so far, Cheney has delivered a pretty strong stiff-arm. Obama opened Pandora’s Box, and it’s his problem now.

On a serious note, if you pray, we should have our soldiers and our other members of law enforcement in mind because there are so many hotspots and Obama’s created so many weakness that something bad is likely to happen before Labor Day. And yet Obama’s supporters want time and resources devoted to witchhunts.

Priorities.

BuckeyeSam on April 24, 2009 at 11:26 AM

“The man is a windsock”

Good call, good nickname…”The Windsock”.

LtE126 on April 24, 2009 at 11:27 AM

Not that the Toe Sucker, a.K.a. Dick Morris, is always correct or a source to place too much stock in, but I do recall during one of his 1,000 appearances on Fox per day; he asserted eventually the policy opinions will catch up to the Zero.

Please God may this be true and PDQ!

Evidence this might have some truth to it is the emergence of the masses at the tea parties. Has any other President in history had this many folks protest his policies prior to the first 100 days? I do not think so. The sleeping giant might be waking up.

The decline in the numbers of viewers of MSLSD, and Kool-Aid drinking fools in the Dem party is going to help matters as well. Remember all those Hillary voters working for Palin? They are still pissed! And they have VERY LONG MEMORIES! And even more Dems are not in favor of this DHS memo. Trashing the Vets of this nation is SOOOOO NOT a smooth move!

After we get attacked because of these types of moves, the One is going to nose dive in these approval ratings. And for those of you that think we are not going to be attacked, you are tripping! Based on Mr. Floofy Pants’ reactions to the flooding and tornados in the natural disaster arena; you all had better have more than 5 days worth of supplies on hand for survival!

I believe his approval ratings are lower. I firmly believe many are not wanting to admit to how they really think about Obama for fear of being labeled a racist, unpatriotic or in the wish he would “fail” category the media created.

freeus on April 24, 2009 at 11:27 AM

Every income demographic believes by significant majorities that the release of the memos damaged national security except the under-$20K demo, which holds that view by plurality (39%-35%).

The other 26% wanted to know whether 0-bama wanted fries with that memo.

Cicero43 on April 24, 2009 at 11:29 AM

The release of the “abuse photos” should take that number up by another 10% at least.

Quisp on April 24, 2009 at 11:30 AM

What will Obama do when he really needs intelligence and the CIA to help him?

They won’t…as a matter of fact Obama is screwing to pooch.

The dems have just guaranteed that they will be out of the loop.

They won’t know anything and the CIA will keep valuable info under wraps.

In future Congressional hearings after the next 9/11 I can imagine

when someone like Peolosi asks “Why weren’t we informed about the

information the CIA had in it’s possession?”

Answer – Hmmmmmm, we didn’t think you cared enough to know.

izoneguy on April 24, 2009 at 11:30 AM

Whats Meg Mccains opinion?

the_nile on April 24, 2009 at 11:05 AM

“Like, get over it already, America. National security is like, so 80′s and we’ve, like totally got to move beyond that so we can come together as one.

President Obama said that nothing is more important to him than the safety of this country and I believe him. What’s with these Republicans who don’t believe him and don’t want the country to be safe? They’re like, totally impatriotic and stuff.”

LibTired on April 24, 2009 at 11:31 AM

Gee, I woulda thought getalife would be all over this topic.

scalleywag on April 24, 2009 at 11:32 AM

BuckeyeSam on April 24, 2009 at 11:26 AM

Almighty God
We stand before you in supplication,
Asking Your Divine mercy and protection,
To envelop with Your invincible armor,
Our loved ones in all branches of the service.

Give them courage and strength
Against all enemies,
Both spiritual and physical,
And hasten their safe journey,
Back to their homes and families.

Amen.

Loxodonta on April 24, 2009 at 11:32 AM

Obama badly miscalculated.

That’s the understatement of the new century.

maverick muse on April 24, 2009 at 11:32 AM

The DOD gives Obama the finger on his no nukes pledge

Obama is getting weaker not stronger.

William Amos on April 24, 2009 at 11:33 AM

I believe his approval ratings are lower. I firmly believe many are not wanting to admit to how they really think about Obama for fear of being labeled a racist, unpatriotic or in the wish he would “fail” category the media created.
freeus on April 24, 2009 at 11:27 AM

Word. American civilians and/or soldiers are going to die as a direct result of Obowa’s current actions, and the requisite terrorist video will be released with some hooded terrorist declaring that the Americans were killed in retaliation for what was shown in the prison photos.

This stunt is going to cost Obowa, and the payments will start in 2010.

Bishop on April 24, 2009 at 11:33 AM

I’m tired of opinion polls.
Gallup has been calling my house off & on lately.
I refuse to answer the phone.
Every poll I’ve ever had a chance to be part of has the most biased, lame questions ever.
I refuse to be part of this stupid polling crap.
It’s damaging to our political process IMHO.

Badger40 on April 24, 2009 at 11:34 AM

58% Say Release of CIA Memos Endangers National Security… But forty-nine percent (49%) of voters now rate Obama as good or excellent on national security issues.

That 49% is based on Napolitano keeping us safe from pro-lifers, tea-partiers, and constitutionalists.

VIVA OBAMA!

Laura in Maryland on April 24, 2009 at 11:34 AM

AprilOrit on April 24, 2009 at 11:08 AM

proof positive that Monday’s isn’t the basis for all reflection

maverick muse on April 24, 2009 at 11:34 AM

Instead, he decided to tackle him head on, and turned Cheney’s accusation into a self-fulfilling prophecy.

And, so far, Cheney has delivered a pretty strong stiff-arm. Obama opened Pandora’s Box, and it’s his problem now.

On a serious note, if you pray, we should have our soldiers and our other members of law enforcement in mind because there are so many hotspots and Obama’s created so many weakness that something bad is likely to happen before Labor Day. And yet Obama’s supporters want time and resources devoted to witchhunts.

Priorities.

BuckeyeSam on April 24, 2009 at 11:26 AM

Yes, the new attitude of the soldiers will be “take no prisoners”
Look for more battlefield justice. Obama will have no one to blame
but himself. He just does not get it. U.S. soldiers and CIA ops guys won’t
be so careful in taking prisoners. Obama has just made the decision of
soldiers that much easier.

izoneguy on April 24, 2009 at 11:34 AM

Wait until they release those photo’s next week.

Firebird on April 24, 2009 at 11:34 AM

On a serious note, if you pray, we should have our soldiers and our other members of law enforcement in mind because there are so many hotspots and Obama’s created so many weakness that something bad is likely to happen before Labor Day. And yet Obama’s supporters want time and resources devoted to witchhunts.

Priorities.

BuckeyeSam on April 24, 2009 at 11:26 AM</blockquote

Amen.

NTWR on April 24, 2009 at 11:35 AM

So how was America’s image and security improved by the release of this information? Obama’s so worried about making Bush and Cheney look bad that he doesn’t give a rat’s ass about whether this is good for the country.

Cicero43 on April 24, 2009 at 11:35 AM

BuckeyeSam on April 24, 2009 at 11:26 AM

Almighty God,
Watch over all Law enforcement officers everywhere.

Protect them from harm
In the performance of their duty
To stop crime, robbery, Riots and violence.

We pray, help them keep our streets
And homes safe, day and night.
We commend them to your loving care
Because their duty is dangerous.

Grant them strength and courage
In their daily assignments.
Grant them your almighty protection,
Unite them safely with their families after Duty has ended.
Please God, grant us this wish.

Amen.

Loxodonta on April 24, 2009 at 11:36 AM

I don’t know if Obama is yet because he’s so arrogant and delusional, but I’m sure many people in Obama’s administration are crapping their pants right about now after seeing this.

MobileVideoEngineer on April 24, 2009 at 11:36 AM

So how was America’s image and security improved by the release of this information? Obama’s so worried about making Bush and Cheney look bad that he doesn’t give a rat’s ass about whether this is good for the country.

Cicero43 on April 24, 2009 at 11:35 AM

Bingo.

scalleywag on April 24, 2009 at 11:38 AM

53% Say Next President Likely To Be A Republican

William Amos on April 24, 2009 at 11:35 AM

39% of Democrats agree.

Wow!

Loxodonta on April 24, 2009 at 11:38 AM

Yes, the new attitude of the soldiers will be “take no prisoners”
Look for more battlefield justice. Obama will have no one to blame
but himself.

Sure he will, Obowa will blame the soldiers as leftists always eventually do.

Expect more Haditha-Marine type trials to commence in the future, egged on by the pinheads of the “peace” movement.

Bishop on April 24, 2009 at 11:38 AM

I wonder how many people, if asked today, would say they trust the president

scalleywag on April 24, 2009 at 11:39 AM

William Amos on April 24, 2009 at 11:33 AM–NAVY TIMES
DoD plan differs from Obama no-nukes pledge
By Anne Gearan – The Associated Press

The Navy has Obama’s political “peaceful” command encumbrance with the Somali pirate incident as their experience with the new CIC.

Not only will Obama inhibit the military to take measures to protect our nation, Obama will deny the military the means to protect our nation. All the while, Obama performs as a global arsonist, setting intentional wildfires.

maverick muse on April 24, 2009 at 11:43 AM

William Amos on April 24, 2009 at 11:35 AM

Your links are getting better and better! ;-)

becki51758 on April 24, 2009 at 11:43 AM

53% Say Next President Likely To Be A Republican

William Amos on April 24, 2009 at 11:35 AM

39% of Democrats agree.

Wow!

Loxodonta on April 24, 2009 at 11:38 AM

Change WE CAN BELIEVE IN

maverick muse on April 24, 2009 at 11:44 AM

It will be a distinct honor and pleasure to cast a vote for a conservative candidate in 2012 and vote the current POS out of office.

jdflorida on April 24, 2009 at 11:46 AM

Your links are getting better and better! ;-)

becki51758 on April 24, 2009 at 11:43 AM

Im auditioning for the Green room :)

William Amos on April 24, 2009 at 11:48 AM

A Rasmussen poll that tells Republicans exactly what they want to hear? How unexpected! How could this have happened?

I bet it has nothing to do with questions whose only options are two unrelated choices like this:

Does the release of CIA memos on interrogation techniques help the image of the United States abroad or does it endanger the national security of the United States?

e-pirate on April 24, 2009 at 11:52 AM

…unless Americans have concluded that Obama’s doing real damage to national security.

I’ve concluded that The Failed One is so overwhelmingly self-absorbed that he views even the smallest critique as a personal attack that deserves speedy retribution regardless of the long-term effects on our great country and her prosperity and security.

Wingo on April 24, 2009 at 11:54 AM

This poll, of course, proves that the idea that the memo release was political! is utter baloney.

orange on April 24, 2009 at 11:55 AM

Yes, the new attitude of the soldiers will be “take no prisoners”

Look for more battlefield justice. Obama will have no one to blame but himself. He just does not get it. U.S. soldiers and CIA ops guys won’t be so careful in taking prisoners. Obama has just made the decision of
soldiers that much easier.

izoneguy on April 24, 2009 at 11:34 AM

Obama places the military into his sordid Catch-22. Murtha tried the ol’ “baby killer” malicious cry, and got his ass kicked. Obama’s long-term strategy is to put the military into the dehumanized position for the media to scapegoat again. Obama WILL have someone to blame, never himself. He is pathologically incapable of accepting responsibility for anything. Obama anxiously sacrifices our nation.

maverick muse on April 24, 2009 at 11:55 AM

Sorry Ed, but the “If America Does It, It’s Not Immoral. If A Republican Orders It, It’s Not Illegal.” rationalization of torture isn’t going to wash. Weird-ass Rassmussen polls catering to what the GOP wants us to hear won’t cut it either.

starfleet_dude on April 24, 2009 at 11:56 AM

By releasing these memos, The Anointed One hopes to get a job with the New York Times after he is booted out of office. If there is a New York Times in four years.

Dhuka on April 24, 2009 at 11:57 AM

starfleet_dude on April 24, 2009 at 11:56 AM

Sure does!

PappaMac on April 24, 2009 at 11:58 AM

FWIW, the release of the memo is a necessary step in confirming what is already generally known, so there’s not been any compromising of national security here. Everyone already knew we’d waterboarded prisoners. What’s scaring those involved is that now their roles in the sordid mess are known. Being held to account for past misdeeds is not a bad thing, Ed. It’s the right thing to do.

starfleet_dude on April 24, 2009 at 11:59 AM

ernesto on April 24, 2009 at 11:04 AM

You had me, then you lost me. The mass also forget that we are a nation of laws — the root of Western Christian liberites, and alas, a thing our schools have intentionally left out so as to make room for anal sex, will to power, and consumerism. Lawbreakers love this, and would have it no other way. You seem to agree.

Drum on April 24, 2009 at 11:59 AM

Have you seen this tweet from ABC News
jaketapper Obama admin to release detainee abuse fotos; frmr CIA official warns officers fear they no longer have cover – http://tinyurl.com/fotoscia

BrideOfRove on April 24, 2009 at 12:00 PM

Rasmussen: 58% think Obama endangered nat’l security

When Barack Hussein Obama released the secret CIA memos, I viewed that as an act of TREASON. Al Qaeda declared war on the United States, and have repeatedly attacked this nation. We’re a nation at war. What Obama did by releasing documents to the world, was to aid, and abet our enemies.

byteshredder on April 24, 2009 at 12:00 PM

Only the under-$20K demographic has a majority believing that Obama should investigate the Bush administration.

So the people who still live in their parents basement approve. But noone else does.

MarkTheGreat on April 24, 2009 at 12:01 PM

FWIW, the release of the memo is a necessary step in confirming what is already generally known, so there’s not been any compromising of national security here. Everyone already knew we’d waterboarded prisoners. What’s scaring those involved is that now their roles in the sordid mess are known. Being held to account for past misdeeds is not a bad thing, Ed. It’s the right thing to do.

starfleet_dude on April 24, 2009 at 11:59 AM

You sir, are a friggin moron.

MobileVideoEngineer on April 24, 2009 at 12:02 PM

starfleet_dude on April 24, 2009 at 11:59 AM
You sir, are a friggin moron.

MobileVideoEngineer on April 24, 2009 at 12:02 PM

+ 1000

BrideOfRove on April 24, 2009 at 12:04 PM

It will be a distinct honor and pleasure to cast a vote for a conservative candidate in 2012 and vote the current POS out of office.

jdflorida on April 24, 2009 at 11:46 AM

POS = Proponent Of Socialism… right? LOL!

44Magnum on April 24, 2009 at 12:04 PM

In my day the U.S. Army had MOS 95b (Military Police) and 95c (Military Police/Prisoner/Guards). You couldn’t pay me enough to be a 95c under the leadership of Barry and The Crew. Those who are need to put in for retraining for another MOS before Barry and the Pentagon REMFs throw them to the wolves.

Limerick on April 24, 2009 at 12:07 PM

Revenge dressed up as justice. They just can’t stop their hate for Bush, whether this is cover for their own idiocy or just a pathological desire they can’t control, is really besides the point.

They intend to drag the entire country down, so they can say; “see we told you they were all criminals”. If 58% believe this today, what will the percentage be say 6 months into some type of highly charged and partisan reveiw? Do you think this number will go up or down?

John D on April 24, 2009 at 12:11 PM

Like I said on the other thread.Obama loses all credibility in the argument of protecting our nation when he risks the lives and livelihoods of the people who made the hard decisions to do what had to be done to protect this nation.

He cannot reconcile this politically motivated move when he upholds extraordinary renditions.

canditaylor68 on April 24, 2009 at 12:12 PM

As long as Obama remains too fearful of challenging his own core supporters on the left, and as long as his aides and policy people on the left remain consumed by hatred of the previous administration and a desire for revenge, Cheney can play the White House like a fiddle, because anything he says and does is going to be met with a Pavlovian response of lashing out without thinking for one instance about the consequences.

(In fact, if Cheney really wanted to drive the White House off the rails, he could come out and say he’s going to stop making comments for the sake of national security, because everytime he does Obama responds with some childish, thoughtless action that is desinged to get him, but instead further endangers Americans’ national security.)

jon1979 on April 24, 2009 at 12:14 PM

Comment pages: 1 2