Rasmussen: 58% think Obama endangered nat’l security

posted at 10:54 am on April 24, 2009 by Ed Morrissey

If Barack Obama hoped to convince America that Dick Cheney was wrong about Obama making America less safe by releasing the interrogation memos, the latest Rasmussen poll shows he badly miscalculated.  Despite his own high personal approval ratings and Cheney’s low scores, 58% of respondents believe that Obama endangered national security.  Only 28%, far below the numbers of his own party, believe it helped America enhance its image abroad (via Power Line):

Fifty-eight percent (58%) believe the Obama administration’s recent release of CIA memos about the harsh interrogation methods used on terrorism suspects endangers the national security of the United States. The latest Rasmussen Reports national telephone survey found that 28% believe the release of the memos helps America’s image abroad.

Thirty-seven percent (37%) of voters now believe the U.S. legal system worries too much about protecting individual rights when national security is at stake. But 21% say the legal system is too concerned about protecting national security. Thirty-three percent (33%) say the balance between the two is about right.

If anything, Rasmussen gives the poll an optimistic spin for Obama. The crosstabs are devastating.

  • 58% said the Obama administration should not investigate the Bush administration on interrogations, while only 28% wanted investigations.  Democrats split evenly on the question, 42%-42%, and only 22% of independents wanted investigations.  Only self-professed liberals approved of investigations, and only by a 58%-31% majority.
  • Similar numbers appear on whether Obama damaged or enhanced American security with this release.  Democrats actually lean towards damage by a tiny margin, 41%-40%, while independents overwhelmingly believe Obama damaged national security, 65%-23%.
  • None of the age or gender demographics give Obama an approval rating on these two questions above 37%.  Every single age and gender demographic believes by a wide majority that Obama damaged national security and should not conduct investigations into torture allegations from the previous administration.
  • Only the under-$20K demographic has a majority believing that Obama should investigate the Bush administration.  Every other income demographic believes otherwise, by solid majorities.  Every income demographic believes by significant majorities that the release of the memos damaged national security except the under-$20K demo, which holds that view by plurality (39%-35%).
  • Americans in every demographic are more inclined to believe that the US legal system worries too much about individual rights rather than national security.

Prior to the release of the memos, Obama could have just ignored Cheney and let his accusations fade.  Instead, he decided to tackle him head on, and turned Cheney’s accusation into a self-fulfilling prophecy.  It’s hard to imagine how a President with personal approval ratings in the mid-50s could score so badly on this, unless Americans have concluded that Obama’s doing real damage to national security.


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I wonder how many people, if asked today, would say they trust the president

scalleywag on April 24, 2009 at 11:39 AM

More importantly, how many would be willing to lay down their lives for him?

Badger40 on April 24, 2009 at 12:16 PM

The terrorists already know we’ve waterboarded prisoners, guys. What this is really about is the American people knowing how torture was done in their name, and who was behind it.

starfleet_dude on April 24, 2009 at 12:17 PM

People are finally beginning to wake up to the President with all ‘that vast executive experience’. They may even come to realize that he’s fucking ‘winging it’ from day to day.

GarandFan on April 24, 2009 at 12:19 PM

starfleet_dude on April 24, 2009 at 12:17 PM

this was about Obama trying to politicize every damn thing under the sun. Like after the tea parties he suddenly cares about cutting govt spending(wow a whole 100 mill out of a 3.5 trill budget) or putting a minor far left criminal on the 10 most wanted list for the fbi after people complained about how vets had been targeted as potential terrorists.

gsherin on April 24, 2009 at 12:21 PM

trust…

–noun

1. reliance on the integrity, strength, ability, surety, etc., of a person or thing.

2. confident expectation of something.

3. confidence in the certainty of future payment for property or goods received.

4. a person on whom or thing on which one relies.

5. the condition of one to whom something has been entrusted.

6. the obligation or responsibility imposed on a person in whom confidence or authority is placed.

7. charge, custody, or care.

8. something committed or entrusted to one’s care for use or safekeeping, as an office, duty, or the like.

Well that seems to leave TOTUS out…..

Limerick on April 24, 2009 at 12:21 PM

The terrorists already know we’ve waterboarded prisoners, guys. What this is really about is the American people knowing how torture was done in their name, and who was behind it.

starfleet_dude on April 24, 2009 at 12:17 PM

I’m still not convinced it should be called torture, personally.

However, the real problem, as I see it, is these moves somehow make us the guilty party.

Prosecute? Go ahead, but you’d better prosecute the real guilty party. Which includes you.

Otis B on April 24, 2009 at 12:25 PM

gsherin, it wasn’t a secret before the election that Obama told us he’d change how things were done in the White House, including the issue of using torture when interrogating prisoners. Closing the book entirely on what was done in the past is wrong from the standpoint of wanting to prevent such abuses of power from happening in the future. In other words, the next time a President thinks about circumventing the Constitution when it’s convienent to do so, the example of what happened to those who did so in the Bush/Cheney administration will hopefully keep them from doing something wrong again.

starfleet_dude on April 24, 2009 at 12:25 PM

In other words, the next time a President thinks about circumventing the Constitution when it’s convienent to do so,

I hope you include Obama in this, along with Holder, regarding their actions concerning the Patriot Act.

They sure learned from it – and expanded it – which is something I consider alarming.

Otis B on April 24, 2009 at 12:28 PM

Limerick on April 24, 2009 at 12:21 PM

One thing I do trust, is when Xerxes says; “Don’t think we aren’t keeping score brother”. Unfortunately, he is keeping score against all of us. He thinks we need to be punished and atone for who and what we are.

I know that navel gazer thinks this is only about JUSTICE. If that were so, why do they only focus on this narrow band of suppossed “victims”. Oh that’s right, we are all victims when our morals are tossed on the trash heap when torture is used, irregardless of how effective the techniques were in stopping an attack on LA.

John D on April 24, 2009 at 12:29 PM

starfleet_dude on April 24, 2009 at 12:25 PM

somehow i’m not impressed with that argument since Obama and his cronies don’t respect the 1st amendement(fairness doctrine talk), 2nd amendment, 10th amendment( dumping huge costs on the states to babysit porkulus money, plus many other things). Obama is no authority to lecture anyone on the constitution and circumventing it.

gsherin on April 24, 2009 at 12:32 PM

Barack Obama is a child………..

……. either he really does not know what damage he has done to this nation, or who ever is pulling his strings (George Soros) is systematically destroying this country and he is a willing participant.

When, not if, we get hit again, no spin will remove the blame from his feet………

……… I just hope the death toll does not reach into the millions.

Seven Percent Solution on April 24, 2009 at 12:32 PM

starfleet_dude on April 24, 2009 at 11:59 AM

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So, you are OK with your man’s treasonous release of classified documents?

Johan Klaus on April 24, 2009 at 12:35 PM

If most Americans weren’t stupid, American Idol wouldn’t be President today. – Fixed it for ya.

ernesto on April 24, 2009 at 11:22 AM

SoldiersMom on April 24, 2009 at 12:37 PM

Barack Obama is a child………..

……. either he really does not know what damage he has done to this nation, or who ever is pulling his strings (George Soros) is systematically destroying this country and he is a willing participant.

When, not if, we get hit again, no spin will remove the blame from his feet………

……… I just hope the death toll does not reach into the millions.

Seven Percent Solution on April 24, 2009 at 12:32 PM

We will get hit again. Obama is serving his Masters well.

old trooper2 on April 24, 2009 at 12:37 PM

Among the race groups and Hispanics, black households had the lowest median income in 2007 ($33,916).
Does that have any impact on the numbers?

carbon_footprint on April 24, 2009 at 12:38 PM

When we get hit, it is because Obama and the string pullers have managed, in less than 100 days, to bring our security back to pre 9/11 levels.

I am not even going to speculate on the motive but we are back to what allowed all of the terror attacks in the 90′s and 9/11 to happen.

ORconservative on April 24, 2009 at 12:39 PM

Liberals still have yet to answer my question. I was waterboarded in SERE school in 1979. Can I sue Jimmuh Carter?

Bevan on April 24, 2009 at 12:54 PM

The terrorists already know we’ve waterboarded prisoners, guys. What this is really about is the American people knowing how torture was done in their name, and who was behind it.

starfleet_dude on April 24, 2009 at 12:17 PM

Earth to Starfleet_Dude / Space Cadet: In a galaxy far, far away, less than eight years ago, 3,000 innocent people went to work on a clear summer day, and were burnt to a crisp by 19 men armed with box-cutters. Those who sent them were captured in an Empire half a world away, and a whopping THREE of them were water-boarded, and their revelations prevented further deaths in the City of Angels.

Now the President has informed the detainees that all they need to do is sit silently in the small confinement box for two hours or the large confinement box for 8 hours, to avoid revealing information that could save thousands of American lives.

What we don’t know CAN hurt us. Did the people trapped in the World Trade Center deserve THEIR torture by fire? So that never happens again, it’s OK by me that those who plotted it lose a little sleep, or tolerate a creepy-crawly baby butterfly in their cell.

Steve Z on April 24, 2009 at 12:54 PM

Weird-ass Rassmussen polls catering to what the GOP wants us to hear won’t cut it either.

starfleet_dude on April 24, 2009 at 11:56 AM

LOL! Yet you and your fellow college kids have absolutely no problem believing “polls” put out by al-AP, C-BS “news” and Newsweak, all of which have been vusted recently for massively oversampling Democrats.

In fact, the al-AP “poll” released yesterday (Thursday) had twice as many Democrats (36%) as Republicans (18%) in its “polling sample”. That’s no poll, it’s Josef Geobbels in 2009.

Thanks for the laugh, kid. Let us know when you learn to think for yourself.

Del Dolemonte on April 24, 2009 at 1:01 PM

LOL! Yet you and your fellow college kids have absolutely no problem believing “polls” put out by al-AP, C-BS “news” and Newsweak, all of which have been vusted recently for massively oversampling Democrats.

Sorry, “busted”.

Del Dolemonte on April 24, 2009 at 1:03 PM

Polls aren’t an absolute. However, I do believe, by the falling ratings of other networks, newspapers, and magazines that lean to the left…..they’d be more likely to skew their results.

Obama did compromise national security, and did it during war time. No president….and I mean no previous president, has EVER done this!!!

capejasmine on April 24, 2009 at 1:15 PM

Hey Kids! Let’s have some more poll fun!

BSNBC is running a poll… “Give President Obama a grade

He was at 50% giving him an “A” early this morning, but that has slid to 36% as of this writing, and now 39% are giving him an “F” (52% if you add the D’s).

Take a quick moment to let BSNBC know how you think the Precedent is doing so far…

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/29493093

;)

ornery_independent on April 24, 2009 at 1:18 PM

Not only has this idiot put us in more danger, he continues to devise new ways to increase that danger. When the attack comes, he’ll have so reduced our defenses that we’ll be helpless to stop it. And after it comes, we’ll be incapable of any but the weakest response. This is the undefined change you voted for libs. Feeling proud?

Dee2008 on April 24, 2009 at 1:23 PM

ornery_independent on April 24, 2009 at 1:18 PM

Currently 57% give him a grade of “C” or lower. When I was a kid, if we brought home a C we got the belt. Too bad my old man isn’t around to dole out the proper motivation to improve…

John D on April 24, 2009 at 1:27 PM

Q: “Does the release of CIA memos on interrogation techniques help the image of the United States abroad or does it endanger the national security of the United States?”

i thought this guy was a serious pollster.

sesquipedalian on April 24, 2009 at 1:36 PM

Liberals truely believe they can establish a Utopia on earth and they’ve killed millions of people trying to prove it

Bevan on April 24, 2009 at 2:11 PM

These numbers don’t surprise me a lot. Democrats have never worried about policies when voting. They will continue to support Obama right through the next depression just as they did with Roosevelt through the last one.

burt on April 24, 2009 at 2:28 PM

Rasmussen: 58% think Obama endangered nat’l security

By releasing the CIA memos during war, clearly then, Barack Hussein Obama committed a treasonous act. Constitutionally, all that’s required are two witnesses for a conviction.

byteshredder on April 24, 2009 at 2:28 PM

AprilOrit on April 24, 2009 at 11:08 AM
proof positive that Monday’s isn’t the basis for all reflection

maverick muse on April 24, 2009 at 11:34 AM

We wade through the Far Right & the Far Left’s insanity & bullsh*t, bitchin’ & moanin’ trying to find the truth.

That’s the name of the game these days, or has been since 2000.

AprilOrit on April 24, 2009 at 3:20 PM

I think if we waved smelling salts under the libtards noses and gave them some psychiatric care that number would go from 58% to 99.9% with a vote to impeach and try for treason.

Spiritk9 on April 24, 2009 at 3:24 PM

That’s the name of the game these days, or has been since 2000.

AprilOrit on April 24, 2009 at 3:20 PM

Try again. Back it up to 1992.

Spiritk9 on April 24, 2009 at 3:26 PM

He was legally compelled to release the memos. Are you chiding him for not illegally resisting a court order?

Mark Jaquith on April 24, 2009 at 3:37 PM

Court orders may be appealed

Normally the appeal is an important process to defend Executive Privilege or protect National Security and to establish precedent

In some cases, scurilous politicians can have cohorts obtain a court order so the politican can pretend their hands were tied. Just a passing thought

entagor on April 24, 2009 at 4:17 PM

i thought this guy was a serious pollster.

sesquipedalian on April 24, 2009 at 1:36 PM

As opposed to sampling twice as many Democrats as Republicans, like AP did for the non-po;; they released Thursday?

Thanks for the laugh, kid.

Del Dolemonte on April 24, 2009 at 4:40 PM

The release of all these documents will wreck havoc on the U.S. ability to recruit foreign nationals for intelligence operations. They will be too scared that they will be exposed.

Dhuka on April 24, 2009 at 4:51 PM

Mmmmm-maybe, but I’m sure his overall approval rating is still at least in the ’60s.

I mean, he’s just so damn cool!

Dr. ZhivBlago on April 24, 2009 at 7:45 PM

Try again. Back it up to 1992.

Spiritk9 on April 24, 2009 at 3:26 PM

Wow, getalife’s aunt is here. Woof.

Sorry, kid, but in 1992 there were no political blogs, and basically no Internet, because Algore hadn’t invented it yet. Your hero’s critics had to get their message out by other means-until about 1998. Hillary wanted to censor the internet back then. Goebbels would be proud of her.

Tell us again why the Democrat who inherited an economic recovery that started 18 months before the media elected him in 1992 was above the law. And remember, his Administration had already successfully prosecuted a Federal employee for lying under oath about sex.

And while you’re at it, tell us why Clinton’s Justice Departmenr, in their 1998 Federal Indictment of bin Laden, said he was working with Iraq.

(sound of crickets)

Del Dolemonte on April 24, 2009 at 9:45 PM

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