Outing gay Republicans: Fair game or invasion of privacy?

posted at 12:55 pm on April 24, 2009 by Ed Morrissey

Rick Moran erupts in outrage over, well, Outrage — a documentary which promises to “out” a number of prominent Republicans as gay.  These politicians have cast what the filmmakers consider “anti-gay” votes, and so believes that their personal lives have direct bearing on their political stands.  Rick cries foul:

Imagine being a homosexual who, for whatever reason – family, business, or personal – chooses not to publicly divulge their sexuality?

For some, it is a question of politics. And after 8 years of hearing the left say that a person’s sexual life is not the business of the public and what someone does when they are not doing the people’s business should be their own affair, it takes a lot of sand to suddenly become interested in such matters when they involve a member of the opposite party.

There exists a small homosexual clique that has taken it upon themselves to “out” gay Republicans. These vicious slime merchants inhabit “alternative” media including websites, newspapers, and now, Hollywood. Their stated goal; to expose “hypocrisy” by outing conservative politicians, and even more incredibly, those who work as aides for the lawmaker.

I’m more of a live-and-let-live conservative, myself, which gives me a bit of a libertarian bent.  If Republican officeholders are gay, that’s their own business.  I’m more concerned about policy stands than who sleeps with whom in Washington, and in the end, it’s the policy that matters.

However, sometimes policy gets affected by the personal.  Conservatives have no problem reminding people that Barney Frank hired a former male prostitute whom he had patronized at least once, and then lived with another man who was an exec at Fannie Mae.  Frank himself has argued that personal life should be fair game for political criticism, at least in relationship to Republicans like Sarah Palin.

Is outing gay Republicans sleazy?  Sure.  Is it outrageous?  I guess that depends on the nature of the “anti-gay” votes they’re going to discuss.  If they’re votes against gay marriage and hate crime legislation, I’d call that rather weak tea.  There are legitimate policy reasons to oppose both; I’m much more opposed to the latter and ambivalent at worst to the former, but I’d hardly call opposition to gay marriage “anti-gay”.  Unless they’re participating in rallies that demand the criminalization of homosexual sex or something along those lines, their sexual preference should remain their private business until they themselves choose to make it otherwise.

For a group of people who profess to also adhere to live-and-let-live policies, the filmmakers seem pretty intolerant of gays who wander off the political reservation — but that’s hardly surprising from the extremes on both sides of the political spectrum.

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Is it to early to start drinking?

Knucklehead on April 24, 2009 at 12:57 PM

There are no gay republicans.

portlandon on April 24, 2009 at 12:59 PM

Outing gay Republicans: Fair game or invasion of privacy?

Progessive tolerance.

BadgerHawk on April 24, 2009 at 1:01 PM

Is it to early to start drinking?

Knucklehead on April 24, 2009 at 12:57 PM

Pretend you are in the IRish time zone (6PM now) and you are double covered.

This video shows the statists mind set of group thinking:

- If you are gay, you must support gay marriage.
- If you are hispanic, you must support amnesty.
- If you are African-American, you must support affirmative action and welfare.
- If youa re conservative, your intentions are evil.

WashJeff on April 24, 2009 at 1:01 PM

All’s fair in love and war?

This doesn’t “help” the acceptance of homosexuality, however. If you out people for being homosexual then you’re still assigning a negative connotation to it.

It’s like saying outing Clinton’s affair was done to make people respsectful of men having mistresses.

Skywise on April 24, 2009 at 1:02 PM

Yet another attempt to harm Republicans by exploiting personal differences between members for the sake of the left’s own political gain. Despicable.

darii on April 24, 2009 at 1:02 PM

The liberal culture of death.

Loxodonta on April 24, 2009 at 1:02 PM

C’mon, Ed, don’t you know if you’re black you HAVE to be a Democrat and if you’re gay you must agree with ALL “gay causes.” If you’re a woman you MUST be pro-choice or you’re not a real woman, you have stockholm syndrome. Not only that, you’re not a real hispanic if you’re against amnesty for illegal aliens!

Get with the group think program! All teaparty attendees were anti-Obama corporate plants! We can’t possibly have opinions on our own! A minority is not allowed to be opposed to affirmative action! A conservative can’t possibly be for some forms of gun control!

What’s the matter with you :)

PastorJon on April 24, 2009 at 1:03 PM

I’m with you Ed, live and let live. Don’t ask, don’t tell. A person’s sexual preference should not (theorecticaly) interfere with their ability to represent their constituency. So leave them alone. If they are voting the way their district directs them to, then so be it.

catlady on April 24, 2009 at 1:03 PM

I’ve always thought these sorts of things tell you a lot more about the outers than the outed.

Mr. D on April 24, 2009 at 1:03 PM

- If you are gay, you must support gay marriage.
- If you are hispanic, you must support amnesty.
- If you are African-American, you must support affirmative action and welfare.
- If youa re conservative, your intentions are evil.

WashJeff on April 24, 2009 at 1:01 PM

Like when Turner’s Cartoon Network refused to air Speedy Gonazles cartoons because they were offensive to Mexican immigrants… and yet the Cartoon Network station in Mexico shows them ALL the time.

“You will be cared for…and controlled.”

Skywise on April 24, 2009 at 1:03 PM

They would do better to follow the adage, “Always tell the truth, but never a harsh truth”.

Paul-Cincy on April 24, 2009 at 1:04 PM

Is it to early to start drinking?

Knucklehead on April 24, 2009 at 12:57 PM

Okay. How many have you had already?

Loxodonta on April 24, 2009 at 1:04 PM

Should we make a movie in retaliation “outing” straight democrats?

DWSC on April 24, 2009 at 1:05 PM

NO

if you live by the gun you die by the bullet

nice343 on April 24, 2009 at 1:05 PM

Bill Clinton apologists say ……..

“It’s a personal matter, leave ‘em alone.”

Oh wait, he was a (D).

OK to unzip, cigarman.

fogw on April 24, 2009 at 1:06 PM

Then our side should out every Hollywood movie star that has made his/her career out of being an action hero or leading man/woman as being gay. We should double down on what they do. It is well past time to go to war against these scumbags.

Ceroth on April 24, 2009 at 1:06 PM

Is outing gay Republicans sleazy? Sure.

“Outing” anyone who’s gay is sleazy, for sure.

But will anyone on the right take this lefty crud seriously anyway? Although, a lot of conservatives actually think Alex Jones’ The Obama Deception is factual…and that comes from the king of the nutty 9/11 troofers.

This will only backfire on the “outers”.

JetBoy on April 24, 2009 at 1:07 PM

Like when Turner’s Cartoon Network refused to air Speedy Gonazles cartoons…

These people are idiots. This never crossed me mind when watching this as a kid.

Maybe we can use Speedy’s saying, “Areeba areeba, undalay undalay,” to appeal to Hispanics for the tea party movement.

WashJeff on April 24, 2009 at 1:07 PM

Meh………

It only matters to the people it matters too. Too stupid a statement? Folks like me who now hold the Republican party at arms length (after 40 years of voting for the bastads) don’t really give a rat’s patudy. What I care about are conservatives. I don’t care what kind (if any) pajamas they wear.

Limerick on April 24, 2009 at 1:09 PM

This is stupid.

I don’t CARE! If you are gay… fine. If you are going to get redundant and political on me, then it seems you have more drama then one needs to show in the real world.

Ugh!

upinak on April 24, 2009 at 1:09 PM

Well the hallmark of liberalism is that they don’t care who they hurt. If the cause is just, and only they of course can decide “just”, than the consequences are irrelevant.

This is only compounded if the injured party has sinned by contradicting the liberal agenda in some way, as a homosexual who is a conservative would do in the worst possible way.

So the there is no limit to the just punishment for a person who ought to be ruthlessly toeing the liberal line but chooses not to.

No limit.

notagool on April 24, 2009 at 1:09 PM

Then our side should out every Hollywood movie star that has made his/her career out of being an action hero or leading man/woman as being gay. We should double down on what they do. It is well past time to go to war against these scumbags.

Ceroth on April 24, 2009 at 1:06 PM

Close. Then our side should show every Hollywood movie star’s house, how they live, and, most importantly, how much energy they consume.

WashJeff on April 24, 2009 at 1:09 PM

This movie is going to backfire on so many levels. First I don’t think most folks give a flying flip about other’s sexual orientation. Second, the filmmakers view on “anit-gay” votes suggests that the gay community is monolithic. That’s dumb. Third, Barney Frank had an ongoing relationship with a gentleman that was an officer of Fannie or Freddie and there are ethical question there but so would there be if the member of congress or the the company official were not a same sex couple. I hope these folks spent lots of money making the film and that it makes (in an old Lorien1973 remark) tens or hundreds of dollars.

Cindy Munford on April 24, 2009 at 1:10 PM

Why not out the gay Democrats? Oooops. Too long a list?

seven on April 24, 2009 at 1:11 PM

Can we make a movie ‘outing’ heterosexual Democrats?

Mr. Bingley on April 24, 2009 at 1:11 PM

I hope these folks spent lots of money making the film and that it makes (in an old Lorien1973 remark) tens or hundreds of dollars.

Cindy Munford on April 24, 2009 at 1:10 PM

Tee hee hee. I liked that line too.

lorien1973 on April 24, 2009 at 1:12 PM

oh dang, sorry DWSC! Didn’t see that.

Mr. Bingley on April 24, 2009 at 1:12 PM

I have a problem with outing gays. If they want their preferences to be public it is up to them. Except for Tom Cruise…

lexhamfox on April 24, 2009 at 1:12 PM

LIBERAL LEFT = TOLERANCE

SDarchitect on April 24, 2009 at 1:12 PM

Is it to early to start drinking?

Knucklehead on April 24, 2009 at 12:57 PM

Never.

loudmouth883 on April 24, 2009 at 1:12 PM

Can we make a movie ‘outing’ heterosexual Democrats?

Mr. Bingley on April 24, 2009 at 1:11 PM

We should make a movie documenting all the hypocritical, flip-flopping Dems…but that pretty much sums up the wole bunch.

JetBoy on April 24, 2009 at 1:12 PM

If they would adhere to fiscal conservatism, I wouldn’t care if they screwed Richard Simmons.

Speedwagon82 on April 24, 2009 at 1:13 PM

NO

if you live by the gun you die by the bullet

nice343 on April 24, 2009 at 1:05 PM

But isn’t it somewhat justifiable if the person is being hypocritical to their stated beliefs/actions (their public persona). I don’t just mean homosexuality but say religious beliefs, conservative/leftist beliefs, etc;

Skywise on April 24, 2009 at 1:13 PM

Given how much privacy rights played into the court decisions that struck down sodomy laws and abortion restrictions, you would think that there would be more respect for those rights on the Left.

Hard to see how you could claim an absents of malice. And the courts have held that the truth is not a complete defense anymore.

OBQuiet on April 24, 2009 at 1:14 PM

I read that they are going after Charlie Crist. Those rumors have been around for awhile so I doubt anyone will be shocked. I think if it were true and he got married recently to “hide” that would be stupid. I can’t say for certain that it wouldn’t have made a difference in his election but lying wouldn’t be to smart.

Cindy Munford on April 24, 2009 at 1:14 PM

You mean the Democrats stalked gay Republicans around, taking video of their behavior in bars,bathrooms and thier personal homes? Just so they could come and say that Republicans are hypocrits? Damn invasion of privacy laws have nothing on this. Warrantless wiretapping psshhaw, but if a person votes against wanting to give gay marriage rights or limiting hatecrime legislation they are hypocrites. This is about as stupid as videotaping a Democrat walking into a Catholic church for Sunday mass. Fail.

canditaylor68 on April 24, 2009 at 1:15 PM

I don’t care about my politician’s personal lives unless it is affecting their ability to make sound decisions.

The whole premise of this ‘documentary’ seems odd to me. These guys, in spite of the fact they are gay, vote in a way consistent with the wishes of the party which helped put them in offices.

Is that really scandalous? They’re either gay and don’t support gay marriage/adoption/whatever is the reason they’re being targeted. OR, they are gay and do support those things but don’t vote in favor of them because their constituents don’t want them. Far from being people I’d want to ‘run out on a rail’, these are principled politicians that should be celebrated.

On a side note, I agree it’s sleazy to out public figures, but, that’s one of the dangers of stepping into the public arena. It’s beyond the pale to out the staff members of those public figures as they are private citizens that did not choose to step in the public eye. It seems that those people in particular should have some legal recourse against the makers of these films.

JadeNYU on April 24, 2009 at 1:17 PM

Sigh!:( This is sick beyond words but Moran has the right to make this film.

The politics of personal destruction and partisan witchhunts never end. So much for hope and change.

Maybe someone will make a video exposing Rick Moran and his skeletons. After all, turnabout is fair play. ;)

sarahpalinfan99 on April 24, 2009 at 1:17 PM

In the 1940s and 50s, you were considered a rat if you outed communists. Is Barney Frank the new McCarthy?

Jim-Rose on April 24, 2009 at 1:17 PM

I don’t like it when gays out THEMSELVES!
I mean people that have sex with sheep don’t take them to parties and march down mainstreet hand in hoof. If you do it in private it stays private. What I don’t know about you won’t make me wash my hand when I meet you!

Redglen on April 24, 2009 at 1:19 PM

Conservatives have no problem reminding people that Barney Frank hired a former male prostitute whom he had patronized at least once, and then lived with another man who was an exec at Fannie Mae.

This is a totally different situation than outing someone who is in a private, consensual homosexual relationship. If a conservative politician is hiring prostitutes, or is in a situation that could seriously affect his judgment on a very important issue, then yes, report on that all you want.

Sir Corky on April 24, 2009 at 1:20 PM

Meanwhile. Republicans ponder, “Is it okay to criticize Obama yet?”

lorien1973 on April 24, 2009 at 1:20 PM

Stuff like this make me wonder if liberals really care about gay people, or only want to use them as a political weapon.

Scrappy on April 24, 2009 at 1:22 PM

sarahpalinfan99 on April 24, 2009 at 1:17 PM

Mr. Moran did not make the movie, it is his article expressing outrage. I’m not trying to bust on you I just don’t want you to see his name in the future and remember his as a horse’s patoot.

Cindy Munford on April 24, 2009 at 1:22 PM

I read that they are going after Charlie Crist. Those rumors have been around for awhile so I doubt anyone will be shocked. I think if it were true and he got married recently to “hide” that would be stupid. I can’t say for certain that it wouldn’t have made a difference in his election but lying wouldn’t be to smart.

Cindy Munford on April 24, 2009 at 1:14 PM

I heard this too. Crist has always reminded me of that character Kevin Kline played in In & Out. Seriously, would outing Crist be some momentous gotcha? Have at it! From where I stand, the harder task is proving that he heterosexual.

So, who else they got?

BuckeyeSam on April 24, 2009 at 1:22 PM

Ed:

Barney Frank hired a former male prostitute whom he had patronized at least once, and then lived with another man who was an exec at Fannie Mae.

In Frank’s case, however, there are a couple of differences. First, he’s openly gay, so can’t be outed. Second, references to his live-in lover are inevitable when trying to show the corrupt connection betwixt him and Fannie Mae. It’s legitimate because it shows a conflict of interest; the hetero- or homosexual nature of the relationship is irrelevant. And Frank’s relationship with the gay hooker is relevant whenever he tries to play the sanctimony card.

I’m more in line with Rick, in this case. What these creeps are doing is outrageous, because it uses the private sexual lives of the outed as weapons of personal destruction. You right, of course, that we have to be wary lest we cross the same line, ourselves.

irishspy on April 24, 2009 at 1:23 PM

With regards to Barney Frank, it’s less his bedroom habits with the Fannie Mae executive that concern me and more the conflict of interest. If he were married and his wife was the executive, I’d have the same level of concern.

And if the media are going to go into politicians’ private lives, I suggest going into the journalists’ private lives too. After all, they are the ones who are creating/reporting on the news, what conflict of interests do they have; if they are going to be morality police which ones are having affairs, or doing drugs. Etc.

I personally prefer not to stick my nose in other peoples’ bedrooms.

I would make an exception for JFK when he was allegedly having affairs with a mafia kingpin’s girlfriend as well as an East German spy. No sleeping with the enemy.

rbj on April 24, 2009 at 1:23 PM

fine. Out gay republicans.

GOP needs to out straight DEMs though

gatorboy on April 24, 2009 at 1:23 PM

i’m gay and I don’t like the vicious outings because it tends to destroy whatever fragile family life the politicians had created. It’s not everyone that is gay even admits to themselves they are gay. So expecting everyone who has ever smoked a pole in bathrooms *cough* craig *cough* to even be sympathetic to the gay cause when personally they may hate that aspect of themselves it a bit of a pschy stretch. The process of outing has little merit except to try and show that gays are everywhere. But rather than capitalize on the fact that gays are every where you destroy them to prove a point.

Zekecorlain on April 24, 2009 at 1:24 PM

and in the end, it’s the policy that matters.

That made me giggle

Pam on April 24, 2009 at 1:24 PM

Conservatives have no problem reminding people that Barney Frank hired a former male prostitute whom he had patronized at least once, and then lived with another man who was an exec at Fannie Mae.

Oh man. That is rich.

First off. Frank was living with the exec at Fannie Mae while he was supposed to be overseeing the company. Do you not think there is just a slight conflict of interest there? Do you it might have -possibly- interfered with his ability to see the problems going on? That’s what I thought.

Prostitution is a crime. If you disagree with the crime that’s fine. But it is still a crime. So highlighting a guy who is breaking the law isn’t exactly a bad thing.

They don’t even equate. It’s a stupid comparison.

lorien1973 on April 24, 2009 at 1:24 PM

It wasn’t gayness that hurt Republicans in 2006. It was deviancy. Mark Foley and Larry Craig were pervs who had to damage our party because they couldn’t accept they were gay.

Speedwagon82 on April 24, 2009 at 1:24 PM

Perez Hilton outs people. Case closed.

SnarkVader on April 24, 2009 at 1:26 PM

@Speedwagon82 true but hating on the gays didn’t help you that much either…losing the next generation of voters by remaining rigid was a poor trade off for 12 years in power

Zekecorlain on April 24, 2009 at 1:26 PM

The republican party doesn’t hate gays. But we have idiots like Meghan McCain and Steve Schmidt regurgitating DNC falsities of republicans’ views on homosexuals.

jencab on April 24, 2009 at 1:29 PM

Hope the filmmakers gird up for the lawsuits to come….

RepubChica on April 24, 2009 at 1:29 PM

Coming out is a very tenuous and personal thing. It’s a decision with which each and every gay man or lesbian woman must wrestle. The decision is made difficult in that people do not know how others will react. Will they be happy and supportive? Disappointed, but supportive nonetheless? Indifferent? Outright hostile or violent? There are a lot of factors that cause serious emotional toil during the decision making process.

Some choose to come out only to those who are important to them, some decide that it’s no one’s business but their own, and some decide to shove their orientation down everyone’s throat and make sure that everyone within earshot is aware of their orientation. Regardless, it’s a very personal choice, therefore the forced outing of others is totally appaling. It represents a complete contempt for a person’s personal choice about how open that person is about his or her orientation.

I’m not surprised the left supports this disgusting tactic. Lefties have complete disdain for anyone who makes choices that are different from their own.

Vic on April 24, 2009 at 1:31 PM

jencab on April 24, 2009 at 1:29 PM

Do you read comments on this board at all? “Fag” and “fagg0t” are pretty prevalent in the threads about gays.

lorien1973 on April 24, 2009 at 1:31 PM

BuckeyeSam on April 24, 2009 at 1:22 PM

It’s like that Foley character. I doubt his constituents would have had a problem with him being gay (doubt they thought anything else) but hitting on young congressional pages can’t be overlooked. Crist is very very popular but if he is gay he should not have married for political acceptance. I am a bit annoyed with him over the cheerleading of the Stimulus Bill but I appear to be one of the few. His poll numbers are way up there.

Cindy Munford on April 24, 2009 at 1:31 PM

The republican party doesn’t hate gays. But we have idiots like Meghan McCain and Steve Schmidt regurgitating DNC falsities of republicans’ views on homosexuals.

jencab on April 24, 2009 at 1:29 PM

+1

gatorboy on April 24, 2009 at 1:32 PM

some decide to shove their orientation down everyone’s throat and make sure that everyone within earshot is aware of their orientation.

uh, interesting choice of words

gatorboy on April 24, 2009 at 1:33 PM

@jencab I take it you’ve never heard of Sally Kern

Zekecorlain on April 24, 2009 at 1:34 PM

lorien1973 on April 24, 2009 at 1:31 PM

I wouldn’t say “prevalent”, but I’ve seen one or two…

RepubChica on April 24, 2009 at 1:35 PM

@Vic the vaunted Right has no qualms outing people if they feel it is in their interest

Zekecorlain on April 24, 2009 at 1:35 PM

Unless they’re participating in rallies that demand the criminalization of homosexual sex or something along those lines, their sexual preference should remain their private business until they themselves choose to make it otherwise.

I think that’s right. The gay community seems to be rather intolerant of differing opinions concerning policies. The little pink mafia seems “confused.” They somehow think a persons sexual orientation should dictate(heh heh I said dictate) their political orientation.

Stickeehands on April 24, 2009 at 1:36 PM

I say live, and let live. Who cares? I sure don’t. However…will the ACLU have something to say about this offense to their personal civil rights, and liberties? Probably not, since they aren’t outting democrats.

capejasmine on April 24, 2009 at 1:36 PM

Meanwhile. Republicans ponder, “Is it okay to criticize Obama yet?” – lorien1973 on April 24, 2009 at 1:20 PM

The answer is emphatically, yes.

SC.Charlie on April 24, 2009 at 1:37 PM

lorien1973 on April 24, 2009 at 1:31 PM

I must automatically skip those posts because by in large I think HotAir has pretty respectful conversations about the subject. Every side has it’s crackpots.

Cindy Munford on April 24, 2009 at 1:37 PM

Here’s a question: How would Democrats feel about a conservative Christian who contradicts his personal life by voting for gay marriage? Or even supporting abortion rights? Would he be considered a hero, or someone who betrayed his own beliefs?

I don’t think these personal issues are anybody’s business. These filmmakers are launching an attack on their political opponents with whatever ammunition comes first to hand.

grahampowell on April 24, 2009 at 1:37 PM

Once again I say: Yawn.

I don’t care and I don’t think most conservatives do either.

Bob's Kid on April 24, 2009 at 1:37 PM

lorien1973 on April 24, 2009 at 1:20 PM

I criticise him all the time, but then, I’m not a Republican – just a conservative.

Vic on April 24, 2009 at 1:38 PM

Sally Kern is to the Republican Party as Timothy McVeigh is to veterans.

Can we move beyond guilt by association and blaming the whole groups for the acts of a an individual?

Loxodonta on April 24, 2009 at 1:39 PM

@Cindy Munford you must skip a lot of posts…
I joined up because i was amazed at the anti gay threads that were propagating and how matter of fact people were in deciding the “proper place” for gays

Zekecorlain on April 24, 2009 at 1:40 PM

JetBoy on April 24, 2009 at 1:07 PM

Thank you for mentioning this “film” and that Mr. Jones is behind it. I had no idea and a young person recently encouraged me to look into it. I probably wouldn’t have anyway, not my thing, but now I will have to let this kid know who he is dealing with.

Cindy Munford on April 24, 2009 at 1:40 PM

Conservatives have no problem reminding people that Barney Frank hired a former male prostitute whom he had patronized at least once, and then lived with another man who was an exec at Fannie Mae.

I’d say both of those issues are independant of Bwaney’s gayness. Try replacing male with female and (D) with (R) and let’s see the media ignore a Republican who has a prostitute running an escort service from their house, then move on to sleeping with someone who’s the CEO of a company regulated by their committee.

Personally, I don’t give a rat’s postier what people want to do at home. I also don’t think anyone else has a right to say what others are doing at home.

Once again this is just another example of the “tolerance” from the left.

darury on April 24, 2009 at 1:40 PM

I am a woman.
I am gay.
I am a Conservative.
I am a Republican.
I am a Christian and believe in traditional values (ie. honesty, personal responsibility, fidelity, trustworthiness)
I own a gun; I know how to use it and will do so if necessary.
I am blessed to live in the greatest country in the world.
I believe that each person is solely responsible for their lot in life.
I believe in the limits of the Federal Government outlined in the Constitution.
I believe in the sovereignty of States’ rights.
I believe that everyone’s personal life is their own business unless it involves something illegal.
I have lost many so-called Liberal friends because of my beliefs… and I don’t care.

Logic on April 24, 2009 at 1:42 PM

Outing is a despicable act of thuggery and extortion and I’ve felt that way since OUT Magazine was founded.

Buy Danish on April 24, 2009 at 1:42 PM

Zekecorlain on April 24, 2009 at 1:40 PM

I must be misunderstanding your post because it would appear to say the you joined HotAir because you believed it to be predominately an anti-gay site?

Cindy Munford on April 24, 2009 at 1:42 PM

lorien1973 on April 24, 2009 at 1:31 PM

Having fought the use of such terms on one thread, I understand your concern. There are many who post here who do object to when homosexuals are mistreated.

Loxodonta on April 24, 2009 at 1:43 PM

Logic on April 24, 2009 at 1:42 PM

Sheesh, what’s not to like about you. May you have many and better friends.

Cindy Munford on April 24, 2009 at 1:44 PM

Logic on April 24, 2009 at 1:42 PM

Sheesh, what’s not to like about you. May you have many and better friends.

Cindy Munford on April 24, 2009 at 1:44 PM

Dittos.

Loxodonta on April 24, 2009 at 1:46 PM

So, what happens in the bedroom doesn’t stay in the bedroom.

And now any conservative aide who is gay has to fear for his job.

Good. Good. Come to the Dark Side they will….

unclesmrgol on April 24, 2009 at 1:47 PM

i’m gay, and when the economy gets straightened out, and we win the war on terror, and democracy reigns in every country, maybe then i will give a damn about gay republicans who are in the closet and gay marriage. until then i will continue to do my businesswith other men like i always have. and business is good these days thank you very much!

Ghoul aid on April 24, 2009 at 1:48 PM

And after 8 years of hearing the left say that a person’s sexual life is not the business of the public and what someone does when they are not doing the people’s business should be their own affair

The left has not being saying that for eight years. What the left says is that anyone who objects to sexual licentiousness (whether public or private) as pleasure or self-expression is evil. If the person objecting is a homosexual Republican then they are doubly evil and a hypocrite.

Mr. Moran is confusing his own liberal attitude towards deviant sexual behaviour with the attitute of other liberals, who are more advanced in the logic of equality. In other words: Get a brain, Morans!

aengus on April 24, 2009 at 1:50 PM

Do I care if they’re gay. Nope. Not a bit. Last time I looked being gay (closeted or out) is not a crime.

And the people doing the outing are pathetic.

Dee2008 on April 24, 2009 at 1:50 PM

Outing gay Republicans: Fair game or invasion of privacy?

Hmm – personally – this is just not important to me – you’re gay – OK – so?

jake-the-goose on April 24, 2009 at 1:51 PM

Do liberals engage in hypocrisy? Does a bear poop in the woods?

kirkill on April 24, 2009 at 1:51 PM

@Cindy Munford I guess you could say i was disappointed that no one was standing up for gays who was actually gay. and the beliefs and assumptions many held were misguided and hurtful at best.

Zekecorlain on April 24, 2009 at 1:51 PM

Cindy Munford on April 24, 2009 at 1:31 PM

Good for Crist, but I don’t like him. I think he got married when he thought he might be a VP pick. But watching him line up for his porkulus handout really made me sick. If he stays GOP, remains popular, and can deliver Florida to anyone other than Obama in 2012, I’ll think a little more of him.

BuckeyeSam on April 24, 2009 at 1:51 PM

Who cares anyway?? Can’t see how that would have changed a vote on the stupid Stimulus, etc. I could care less. Another distraction from all the legislation and POTUS foreign policy crap, that’s all. Lets keep our eye on the ball.

hillbilly on April 24, 2009 at 1:53 PM

@Dee2008

Last time I looked being gay (closeted or out) is not a crime.

sadly it’s legality is a fairly recent event, as Lawrence vs Texas has shown

Zekecorlain on April 24, 2009 at 1:53 PM

I don’t like it when gays out THEMSELVES!
I mean people that have sex with sheep don’t take them to parties and march down mainstreet hand in hoof. If you do it in private it stays private. What I don’t know about you won’t make me wash my hand when I meet you!

Redglen on April 24, 2009 at 1:19 PM

And thus the audience for the film is revealed. But in reality most Republicans aren’t going to care and Christian Conservatives are not going to burn down the house they’re building by allowing some lefty to rabble rouse them into voting out Crist. This movie is for people who simply hate gays (which to me is strange for anyone on the right where we supposedly celebrate liberty) and for angry gays who won’t take the baby steps to marriage by getting down with civil unions then finding a way to ensure they receive equal treatment with straight married couples, rather than the demand Christians, Jews and Muslims “admit” that they can get married, which is what the hysterical gay rights lobby is more interested in.

Rob Taylor on April 24, 2009 at 1:53 PM

Stuff like this make me wonder if liberals really care about gay people, or only want to use them as a political weapon.

Scrappy on April 24, 2009 at 1:22 PM

I think you answered your own question; use them as a political weapon.

cjs1943 on April 24, 2009 at 1:58 PM

Once again the left is creating a diversion to take attention away from real issues.

I think this country is now permanently scarred.

Oink on April 24, 2009 at 1:58 PM

Zekecorlain on April 24, 2009 at 1:51 PM

When people aren’t gay it stands to reason that they will have beliefs and assumptions that are misguided because they are on the outside looking in. The same could be said about gays commenting on heterosexuals. I don’t recognize your name but we have many posters here that are gay and I think they state their beliefs (not all the same) admirably. That’s not to say they will change any minds but if they are treated with respect and encouraged to come here it can’t be all bad. Those who are rude would be rude about anything and everything and pretty easy to ignore.

Cindy Munford on April 24, 2009 at 1:59 PM

BuckeyeSam on April 24, 2009 at 1:51 PM

His support (fawning support)for the Stimulus Bill may be a deal breaker for me. The mayor of Jacksonville has been bragging about getting in line for the “free money”. Lucky for him he doesn’t have to worry about my vote.

Cindy Munford on April 24, 2009 at 2:02 PM

Stuff like this make me wonder if liberals really care about gay people, or only want to use them as a political weapon.

Scrappy on April 24, 2009 at 1:22 PM

Liberals care about gays in the sense that they will do everything they can to help liberate them from constraints against their desires. If outing a few individual, Republican Congressgays helps to achieve that then it’s hardly proof that liberals hate gays.

aengus on April 24, 2009 at 2:06 PM

Hmm… here’s a novel concept: politicians who vote as their constituents want them to vote, regardless of personal preferences, beliefs, or lifestyles.

fiscallyconservative on April 24, 2009 at 2:06 PM

It’s mostly pointless. Charlie Crist faced a giant whisper campaign here in FL. He was still elected. Now he’s married, to a woman. Hope that’s real. Nobody I knew cared one way or the other.

Beagle on April 24, 2009 at 2:08 PM

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