Obama to release photos of abuse
posted at 12:16 pm on April 24, 2009 by Ed Morrissey
Here we go again. The US will release dozens of pictures depicting prisoner abuse by the American military and intelligence agents after the Obama administration dropped an appeal to block a Freedom of Information Act request by the ACLU. Will these pictures have the same demoralizing effect on both the troops and the CIA?
In a letter from the Justice Department to a federal judge yesterday, the Obama administration announced that the Pentagon would turn over to the American Civil Liberties Union 44 photographs showing detainee abuse of prisoners in Afghanistan and Iraq during the Bush administration.
The photographs are part of a 2003 Freedom of Information Act request by the ACLU for all information relating to the treatment of detainees — the same battle that led, last week, to President Obama’s decision to release memos from the Bush Justice Department’s Office of Legal Counsel providing legal justifications for harsh interrogation methods that human rights groups call torture.
Courts had ruled against the Bush administration’s attempts to keep the photographs from public view. ACLU attorney Amrit Singh tells ABC News that “the fact that the Obama administration opted not to seek further review is a sign that it is committed to more transparency.”
In 2004, the release of the pictures from Abu Ghraib overwhelmed the limited context of the abuse at that prison, which involved a handful of soldiers that had already come under investigation from the Pentagon for their abusive treatment of prisoners. The release of those images created a firestorm of vituperation against the American military around the world, calls for immediate firings and purges, even though the military had already acted to clean up the problem. The damage done to the Army’s reputation in particular has never been undone.
Small wonder the intelligence community has erupted in anger over this and the previous release of OLC memos:
Calling the ACLU push to release the photographs “prurient” and “reprehensible,” Dr. Mark M. Lowenthal, former Assistant Director of Central Intelligence for Analysis and Production, tells ABC News that the Obama administration should have taken the case all the way to the Supreme Court. …
Lowenthal said the president’s moves in the last week have left many in the CIA dispirited, based on “the undercurrent I’ve been getting from colleagues still in the building, or colleagues who have left not that long ago.”
“We ask these people to do extremely dangerous things, things they’ve been ordered to do by legal authorities, with the understanding that they will get top cover if something goes wrong,” Lowenthal says. “They don’t believe they have that cover anymore.” Releasing the photographs “will make it much worse,” he said.
There is a natural tension in a free republic between transparency and national security, especially in wartime. If abuses occur, we need to make sure that the crimes get investigated and punished appropriately. Unfortunately, there has never been a war where abuses did not occur. Even in World War II, the war hailed even by most pacifists as an example of a true good vs evil conflict, Allied troops shot prisoners and committed war crimes, some of which got attention and reaction, and some of which did not.
Those atrocities did not represent Allied troop behavior then, and a few examples of abuse do not reflect the efforts of American troops and intelligence agents now. Would we have published the pictures of such atrocities while in combat against the enemy then, and ruined the reputation of brave men and women fighting fascism and totalitarianism? Not a chance. And when we did it in 2004, the end result was to besmirch the entire military and chain of command, because photos carry no sense of context and are much more inflammatory than informative.
Now we get to go through it all over again, and the context of the photos will likely get the same scant coverage. Did the abuse shown result in investigations? Disciplinary action? Will the press cover it even if the US acted against the alleged perpetrators? Based on the quality of reporting in 2004, that seems doubtful.










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Mass muslim uprisings. Coming right up thanks the Libtards. Seriously, these folks are only happen when people are dying. Whether it be innocent babies or our nation’s protectors, the left wants them dead.
Guardian on April 24, 2009 at 12:19 PM
Pay no attention to the man behind the curtain.
Speakup on April 24, 2009 at 12:19 PM
BHO = Communist Dicktator
SDarchitect on April 24, 2009 at 12:19 PM
This will give the Muslims of the world another reason to rampage about & kill Westerners.
Good job BO.
Badger40 on April 24, 2009 at 12:20 PM
Completely over the line. He’s going to smear the entire military just to take another cheap shot at the previous administration.
BadgerHawk on April 24, 2009 at 12:20 PM
Redux Obama, the most progressive throwback evah.
AS IF today is yesterday.
maverick muse on April 24, 2009 at 12:20 PM
And when, not if, Obama authorizes the use of torture after some plot is unveiled or, god forbid, is carried out, will he release all information and pictures of the use of said torture?
Or in imagining that he would hold the same standard to himself as he has been displaying towards Bush, have I just been sniffing too much glue?
MadisonConservative on April 24, 2009 at 12:20 PM
It’s official. We’re living in a banana republic.
forest on April 24, 2009 at 12:21 PM
Hopefully in the SWAT valley…easier targets.
WashJeff on April 24, 2009 at 12:21 PM
Dumb idea. Gratuitous. Purely prurient. No probative value at all. Simply a new means (old means revisited) to try to discredit Bush while keeping the heat off Obama.
This too will backfire.
coldwarrior on April 24, 2009 at 12:21 PM
The low-level folks at Abu Ghraib have already been prosecuted and several got jail time. Why does Obama need to drag this out again. That moron likes to keep us from healing so he can be the one to “save us”.
VIVA OBAMA
Laura in Maryland on April 24, 2009 at 12:21 PM
/sigh
Only one reason to do this: further embarrass the Bush administration, which is one of the primary goals of the Obama administration.
Great. Just great.
BardMan on April 24, 2009 at 12:21 PM
That damage will never be undone. It will be in history books, and school textbooks forever.
Meanwhile the democrat party abandonment of South Vietnam will slowly fade into oblivion.
Skandia Recluse on April 24, 2009 at 12:21 PM
Why is he killing us?
Firebird on April 24, 2009 at 12:21 PM
Manchurian candidate
Asher on April 24, 2009 at 12:22 PM
Pantywaist’s political capital wasted
maverick muse on April 24, 2009 at 12:22 PM
I was thinking Dearbornistan.
Guardian on April 24, 2009 at 12:22 PM
I don’t know why anyone would want to defend this country anymore…
all conservatives should leave the military..
let the libs defend THEIR COUNTRY…hell with em.
right4life on April 24, 2009 at 12:23 PM
Because as his pastor of 20 years said, G**d**n America!”
Wethal on April 24, 2009 at 12:23 PM
When Obama said they were the most transparent administration, did he mean in his intentions or in revealing anything that happened in the previous administration?
This is what happens when you get a rookie in the executive’s chair. Obama will leave the office as the leader of a 3rd rate banana republic instead of the world’s superpower.
WTG Obama!
Geministorm on April 24, 2009 at 12:23 PM
This goes hand in hand with his endless apologies to the world for America.
Sorry, sorry, oh and sorry about that.
Limerick on April 24, 2009 at 12:23 PM
The libs would turn to the UN for defense.
Wethal on April 24, 2009 at 12:23 PM
Man oh man – more violence porn to delight its most hardcore fans – the jihadis without allah on the left, and a present to the other jihadis, who will in turn respond with their own offerings of more innocent and American blood.
CK MacLeod on April 24, 2009 at 12:23 PM
as if he loves us to death
the antipathy of Obama’s empathy
maverick muse on April 24, 2009 at 12:24 PM
LOL!!!!!!!!!!!!
D2Boston on April 24, 2009 at 12:24 PM
What in the world is going on?
Did 9/11 never happen?
I cant stand this President of mine.
I once dreamed of joining one of the intelligence agencies after school. No longer.
I REFUSE to work under this man’s BS. F*ck it. I’ll go work at a hot dog stand instead, until this jerk off is out of the White House, along with his cabal of stupid mujahideen worshipping schleps.
blatantblue on April 24, 2009 at 12:24 PM
What is wrong with this f*cking moron?
Impeach him!
fogw on April 24, 2009 at 12:25 PM
what an asshole, can’t help himself from politicizing every thing. I hate this MFer everyday and we still have 45 months til he’s gone.
gsherin on April 24, 2009 at 12:25 PM
It’s like this stuff is porn for the left.
CDeb on April 24, 2009 at 12:25 PM
Obama is throwing a bone to the rapid left wing of the US.
He wont push for a “truth” commission in then open so will sneak one out via the media.
Obama thinks he is just being so “smart”
William Amos on April 24, 2009 at 12:26 PM
It will be interesting to see how Obama deals with prosecuting the actual soldiers who were involved with this. The “Nuremburg” defense is not acceptable. If they acted on their own, then it can’t get up very high in chain of command. Which would stymie Obama’s smear of the higher ups in administration.
Wethal on April 24, 2009 at 12:26 PM
My conservative father keeps telling me to apply for work in either the CIA or DOD. I don’t know why.
MadisonConservative on April 24, 2009 at 12:26 PM
When the pics are released, there will be a full blown media frenzy.
The wall will be like the 08 elections.
No one will be able to breakthrough with context.
It will be blame Bushco for DAYS on end.
Our Nat Sec will suffer irreperable harm.
artist on April 24, 2009 at 12:26 PM
My experience (an old one) with the DIA was very positive. With the Yale boys, not so much.
Limerick on April 24, 2009 at 12:27 PM
BO just sealed his fate as the WORST ONE-TERM PRESIDENT EVER!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
txag92 on April 24, 2009 at 12:27 PM
Our Nat Sec will suffer irreperable harm.
artist on April 24, 2009 at 12:26 PM
and that’s exactly what obama wants.
Ghoul aid on April 24, 2009 at 12:27 PM
I take this as a sign that Obama is losing the argument and he knows it. This move smacks of desperation.
Mr. D on April 24, 2009 at 12:28 PM
This guy and everyone around him are idiots.
av8tr on April 24, 2009 at 12:28 PM
The promised transparency of the legislative process and Obama’s agenda are missing before the fait accompli. Now Obama will allow transparency of any thing that will reflect negatively on our nation. Conclusion is that Obama will do any and everything he can to destroy us as a nation.
Pat in NC on April 24, 2009 at 12:28 PM
Obama is killing Americans.
Period.
CDeb on April 24, 2009 at 12:28 PM
One can only hope that in the world of Karmic justice, this too, will backfire on that arrogant fool in the White House.
anniekc on April 24, 2009 at 12:29 PM
Why don’t you just give guided tours of Langley while you’re at it, Barry? Jeez. This guy is a dangerous jerk.
Pasalubong on April 24, 2009 at 12:29 PM
Nice job of cutting our military off at the knee’s Pantywaste Prez.
And instead of playing more politics with our lives, what are you planning doing with the situation in Pakistan? Or do you care?
Knucklehead on April 24, 2009 at 12:29 PM
You know, Iraq is finally stabilizing, things are moving forward in the Middle East, and finally the pre-surge dialogue of massive handgover is clearing, and here comes Obama to start it up all over again.
This had finally left people’s minds. We had moved on. But no…
Vincenzo on April 24, 2009 at 12:30 PM
He’s right.
Well they are good jobs, but I can only imagine how things will go topsy turvy in the next three years. To work for them would be a great honor and service, but IDK…
Work for the nation just to be eaten by it?
blatantblue on April 24, 2009 at 12:30 PM
Frankly, I think it’s worse. He’s trying to smear the entire military because he’s anti-military.
Loxodonta on April 24, 2009 at 12:30 PM
Muslim anger + pakistani nukes in the hands of the taliban=?
clnurnberg on April 24, 2009 at 12:30 PM
This move smacks of desperation.
Mr. D on April 24, 2009 at 12:28 PM
I don’t see it that way.
This is what they’ve always wanted.
artist on April 24, 2009 at 12:30 PM
I thought revisiting the past served no purpose?
I think I know now why his ears got so big. Handles for pulling his head out of his ass.
Not nice but this kind of crap is becoming a daily diet and I’m getting really pissed
oldernwiser on April 24, 2009 at 12:30 PM
This guy is a child, way in over his head.
…. and as you said, a dangerous jerk.
fogw on April 24, 2009 at 12:31 PM
PEOPLE – These soldiers stuck their neck out for us then. The least we can do is stand by them now.
Raise your voice. More people agree with us then you think.
RobCon on April 24, 2009 at 12:31 PM
Why do I get the feeling he is trying to distract the public?
loudmouth883 on April 24, 2009 at 12:31 PM
With the size of his ego, his ears aren’t nearly big enough for the task.
CDeb on April 24, 2009 at 12:32 PM
Go for it, Barry.
We’ve got a lot more photos of you torturing America–while you served as U.S. senator, on the campaign trail, while you were president elect, on your inauguration day, and ever day since.
Christien on April 24, 2009 at 12:32 PM
How long till we start chanting
“Hey hey BHO how many americans did you kill today ?”
William Amos on April 24, 2009 at 12:32 PM
Obama is really trying to knock Jimmy Carter out of the worse president title, isn’t he?
Blake on April 24, 2009 at 12:33 PM
I don’t think you are anti-American enough to qualify at the moment.
Loxodonta on April 24, 2009 at 12:33 PM
I think his administration has plans like this in regular intervals over the next 4 years. It’s all part of his ongoing campaign for re-election. Discrediting the military is the big 100-Day Event. Next up on the calendar: a June Surprise planned to discredit the July 4 TEA parties. And so on an so on.
Their main goal, foreign and domestic, is entrenching leftist power for the foreseeable future. Any means are justifiable for that end.
RushBaby on April 24, 2009 at 12:33 PM
Hari Kiri, America style!
LibTired on April 24, 2009 at 12:34 PM
The only group of people who think this is a good idea are Islamist radicals or their allies.
econavenger on April 24, 2009 at 12:34 PM
They *(Barry/Jimah)* want to make Lt Calley’s out of the entire crew. It’ll be good for us, you see. Can’t you see that?
Limerick on April 24, 2009 at 12:34 PM
Second
IntheNet on April 24, 2009 at 12:34 PM
Something is going to blow up (literally). I say that with great pause and with a sinking feeling in my chest… but this administration is horribly naive and unprepared to deal with our enemies.
They are convinced that people want to blow up American school children because George Bush didn’t build infrastructure in Gaza or because the US hasn’t apologized enough for being successful.
They’re like a child being seduced by a smooth-talking pedophile who says “Don’t you like me? If you’ll be my friend, I’ll do nice things for you.” That is a sickening picture, but these irresponsible, anti-American Communists that we’ve elected are doing terrifying damage to our national security… primarily because they simply do not believe in the very concept of national security.
mankai on April 24, 2009 at 12:34 PM
Instaen of BHO it should be Barack Hussein…a closer “rhyme”
clnurnberg on April 24, 2009 at 12:34 PM
He is going and trying to humiliate our military.
Firebird on April 24, 2009 at 12:34 PM
Hello can of worms:
UN torture envoy: US must prosecute Bush lawyers
Apr 24 10:17 AM US/Eastern
By VERONIKA OLEKSYN
Associated Press Writer Comments
VIENNA (AP) – The U.S. is obligated by a United Nations convention to prosecute Bush administration lawyers who allegedly drafted policies that approved the use of harsh interrogation tactics against terrorism suspects, the U.N.’s top anti-torture envoy said Friday.
artist on April 24, 2009 at 12:35 PM
According to what I’ve read, there’s some pictures of prisoners having guns pointed at them! Oh noes! Not guns pointed at prisoners! Hopefully they weren’t the dreaded “assault” rifles!
strictnein on April 24, 2009 at 12:36 PM
Republicans claim whatever Bush did was not torture so what are they worried about?
nice343 on April 24, 2009 at 12:36 PM
For one thing, the newly released pictures, to the extent relevant, need to be distinguished from the interrogation debate. It seems to me that they’re largely separate and distinct: interrogations = CIA and Congress, and relate to about 30 detainees; these pictures = the military. Where there’s overlap, fine; highlight it. But what the military was doing to them in prisoner camps should be kept separate from the CIA interrogations.
Shifting gears, however, what’s Obama trying to do, make the CIA and, now, the Army into the national security version of AIG? Is ACORN renting Greyhounds to go to the neighborhoods of CIA officials and Army officers?
What in the hell is wrong with Obama and his hard left supporters?
BuckeyeSam on April 24, 2009 at 12:36 PM
For every picture the MSM shows of our interrogation of the terrorists, I demand they post a picture of Daniel Pearl’s beheading and the dust settling at WTC.
No “war on terror”, we’ll just see about that after Hussein stirs up the rat’s nest with these classified photos.
All aboard The Ship of Fools.
fogw on April 24, 2009 at 12:36 PM
I heard they will be released after Memorial Day. Talk about a stab in the back. This is disgusting.
becki51758 on April 24, 2009 at 12:36 PM
I think we all just need to go to the barter system, or work under the table.
This is a way of going Galt.
Badger40 on April 24, 2009 at 12:37 PM
Somebody left the irony on again:
The same genius who chastises Americans for not being more worldly is making it phenomenally dangerous for those same Americans to travel abroad.
CDeb on April 24, 2009 at 12:37 PM
Will he be releasing photos of the remains of the 9/11 victims?
You know, for a little context?
Daddy-O on April 24, 2009 at 12:37 PM
BO is the real life version of get-a-life.
He keeps throwing out crap to distract us from the main point(s).
He really has to get the ecomony and his, and his cabinets, monumental screw ups off the front page.
oldernwiser on April 24, 2009 at 12:37 PM
Photoshop opportunity of the day.
Limerick on April 24, 2009 at 12:37 PM
If anyone hasn’t noticed……….
……… the United States of America is still at war.
These actions have no other outcome but to weaken the defenses of this country……
…… Isn’t Treason at least an infraction anymore?
Seven Percent Solution on April 24, 2009 at 12:37 PM
I was angry for the first two weeks of this Presidency as the dominoes started to fall. Then I became numb.
I’m angry again.
LibTired on April 24, 2009 at 12:38 PM
Anybody else see a mass exodus coming from the CIA and the military? And they’ll be replaced by more Janet Napolitanos and Perez Hiltons.
BuckeyeSam on April 24, 2009 at 12:38 PM
This was a winner for the Left the first time around why not do it again?
Cindy Munford on April 24, 2009 at 12:38 PM
DESPERATION is the statement of the day.
Griz on April 24, 2009 at 12:39 PM
Follow the bouncing ball:
Bambi has Gates announce cut backs in military funding
Bambi tries to take away veterans medical services.
Bambi backtracks
Napo releases the DHS “report” accusing veterans of being gullible to “right wing” extremist movements
Napo backtracks (sort of)
Bambi doesn’t ok panels on interrogations
Bambi ok’s panels on interrogations
Bambi backtracks
Pelosi claims she knows nothing about interrogations
Bambi ok’s 5 year old pictures released
The fix is in, though scattered and baffling.
Dems want to punish our military and Bush administration. All hands are on deck. They don’t care about American safety here or abroad. With cover from the MSM – they can get away with it, for now…
Odie1941 on April 24, 2009 at 12:39 PM
Obamas plans to “get Bush” are finally going to work!
Too bad millions of us are going to have to die along with him.
CDeb on April 24, 2009 at 12:39 PM
this, along with other things, many other things, should be the subject of July’s Tea Parties.
Ghoul aid on April 24, 2009 at 12:39 PM
Nope. It’s the highest form of patriotism.
Everything is being twisted.
Loxodonta on April 24, 2009 at 12:40 PM
Ive been unemployed for awhile and have picked up some cleaning jobs. Ive been looking for a job, but I make more money cleaning. Perhaps, I will just continue with that.
becki51758 on April 24, 2009 at 12:40 PM
Republicans shouldn’t be worried because pictures wouldn’t show any torture right?
nice343 on April 24, 2009 at 12:40 PM
Dude I have gone through the same exact genesis.
Good idea. I’ll do that with my hot dog stand. Cindy Munford can get a hot dog if I get a kiss.
KP can get one if..
blatantblue on April 24, 2009 at 12:40 PM
Another big ass distraction. Anyone see Beck yesterday and his story about the commercial real estate market getting ready to go into a major meltdown? And no one is covering it.
Knucklehead on April 24, 2009 at 12:40 PM
Flight 93 Time for a re-release?
canditaylor68 on April 24, 2009 at 12:41 PM
With the recent economic downturn, its been very expensive for anti-American protesters to purchase new propaganda. Obama is just stimulating that sector with public-domain photos of “American atrocities.”
At least its cheaper than the auto-bailout.
Vincenzo on April 24, 2009 at 12:41 PM
Eight years, three-and-a-half desert bound tough ones, and my son has decided enough is enough. He won’t serve after November. Y’all are losing a good man (father’s prejudice aside). Come on home, son, we have a nation to rebuild.
Limerick on April 24, 2009 at 12:41 PM
The libs just need more covers for their upcoming books.
LibTired on April 24, 2009 at 12:41 PM
The Red Cross report will be more damning.
getalife on April 24, 2009 at 12:42 PM
All I can say is holy sh^t. I keep thinking that they can”t top themselves. But they do. Holy sh&t.
I think they want it to get violent. This is the most blatently political shit%^ing on our services I have ever seen.
Or maybe this is just a distraction to use so we ignore Fienstien, Frank etc.
Either they want violence, or they think they can marginalize over 50% of the population with no blowback.
tottoritodd on April 24, 2009 at 12:42 PM
There will be no photos of heads being chopped off.
Fool #1.
fogw on April 24, 2009 at 12:42 PM
Pretty sure Perez would get his rifle and gun confused.
loudmouth883 on April 24, 2009 at 12:42 PM
What does Obama have to say about the two women–who work with a Gore affiliate, I believe–who were snatched up by the North Koreans.
You won’t catch me traveling overseas for a long time. And I thank God I live in the Midwest. Good luck to those on the coasts and along the borders.
Is there any question that he’s making us less safe?
BuckeyeSam on April 24, 2009 at 12:42 PM
BHO sits in the pew of the church of a ranting anti-American lunatic for 20 years until it becomes too politically costly for him to continue. Michelle O experiences her first experience of being proud of her country only when her husband becomes the Dem frontrunner for the presidency. 0-bama travels the globe reminding foreigners of the evils that America has perpetrated upon them. Now he wants to publish interrogation photos that will resurrect the Abu Ghraib hysteria all over again.
Its all of a piece.
Cicero43 on April 24, 2009 at 12:42 PM
“Beautiful thing, the destruction of words. “
CDeb on April 24, 2009 at 12:42 PM
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