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	<title>Comments on: Deadline: Dems will nuke filibuster if health-care reform doesn&#8217;t pass by October 15</title>
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		<title>By: Deadline: Dems will nuke filibuster if health-care reform doesn&#8217;t pass by October 15 &#171; Speaker for the Living</title>
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		<dc:creator>Deadline: Dems will nuke filibuster if health-care reform doesn&#8217;t pass by October 15 &#171; Speaker for the Living</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 18 Oct 2009 04:12:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] HotAir.com reports:  The reconciliation instruction specifies a date. That date, according to one congressional staffer, is October 15. (The original House reconciliation instruction had a late September deadline.) [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Let Freedom Ring &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Dems&#8217; Scheming To Pass Government Option</title>
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		<dc:creator>Let Freedom Ring &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Dems&#8217; Scheming To Pass Government Option</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 20 Aug 2009 13:07:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] monopoly option. As Ed explains here, there are other hurtdles to overcome: Some Democrats have threatened this for months, notably Chuck Schumer, but the plan has a couple of big flaws. First, the Democrats have to [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] monopoly option. As Ed explains here, there are other hurtdles to overcome: Some Democrats have threatened this for months, notably Chuck Schumer, but the plan has a couple of big flaws. First, the Democrats have to [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Hot Air &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Pelosi to Obama: We&#8217;re not taking the public option out of the House bill</title>
		<link>http://hotair.com/archives/2009/04/24/deadline-dems-will-nuke-filibuster-if-health-care-reform-doesnt-pass-by-october-15/comment-page-2/#comment-2580722</link>
		<dc:creator>Hot Air &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Pelosi to Obama: We&#8217;re not taking the public option out of the House bill</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 17 Aug 2009 21:30:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] And yet. The One&#8217;s burning an awful lot of political capital in this fight only to pass something with no public option. Assuming he thinks he can peel off just enough Blue Dogs to pass a public option on the final bill in the House (and that&#8217;s a big assumption, I know) why wouldn&#8217;t he go to the mat to pass it in the Senate, too? Here&#8217;s Dean-o on today&#8217;s &#8220;Morning Joe&#8221; reminding us that if October 15 comes and goes without a bill, the Democrats are fully willing and able to use &#8220;reconciliation&#8221;http://hotair.com/archives/2009/04/24/deadline-dems-will-nuke-filibuster-if-health-care-reform-doesnt-pass-by-october-15/ to nuke the filibuster and pass it with just 50 votes, which may well be enough for a public option to get through the Senate. Why not do it? The Democrats are going to own the bill one way or another, whether they do it with 50 Democratic votes or 60, and passing a bill with a public option would at least give their own side something to celebrate. The way they&#8217;re going now, they&#8217;re going to end up with a bill no one likes and take a beating for it forever from both sides. [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] And yet. The One&#8217;s burning an awful lot of political capital in this fight only to pass something with no public option. Assuming he thinks he can peel off just enough Blue Dogs to pass a public option on the final bill in the House (and that&#8217;s a big assumption, I know) why wouldn&#8217;t he go to the mat to pass it in the Senate, too? Here&#8217;s Dean-o on today&#8217;s &#8220;Morning Joe&#8221; reminding us that if October 15 comes and goes without a bill, the Democrats are fully willing and able to use &#8220;reconciliation&#8221;<a href="http://hotair.com/archives/2009/04/24/deadline-dems-will-nuke-filibuster-if-health-care-reform-doesnt-pass-by-october-15/" rel="nofollow">http://hotair.com/archives/2009/04/24/deadline-dems-will-nuke-filibuster-if-health-care-reform-doesnt-pass-by-october-15/</a> to nuke the filibuster and pass it with just 50 votes, which may well be enough for a public option to get through the Senate. Why not do it? The Democrats are going to own the bill one way or another, whether they do it with 50 Democratic votes or 60, and passing a bill with a public option would at least give their own side something to celebrate. The way they&#8217;re going now, they&#8217;re going to end up with a bill no one likes and take a beating for it forever from both sides. [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Hot Air &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Breaking: Specter becoming a Democrat; Update: Won&#8217;t change on Card Check; Update: Obama &#8220;thrilled&#8221;; Update: Specter disavowed switch last month</title>
		<link>http://hotair.com/archives/2009/04/24/deadline-dems-will-nuke-filibuster-if-health-care-reform-doesnt-pass-by-october-15/comment-page-2/#comment-2151071</link>
		<dc:creator>Hot Air &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Breaking: Specter becoming a Democrat; Update: Won&#8217;t change on Card Check; Update: Obama &#8220;thrilled&#8221;; Update: Specter disavowed switch last month</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 28 Apr 2009 16:41:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] on Card Check? I&#8217;m guessing yes. Two: Does this mean the Democrats will drop their threat to nuke the filibuster on health care? Hard to say since Blue Dogs like Ben Nelson could defect and deprive them of the [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] on Card Check? I&#8217;m guessing yes. Two: Does this mean the Democrats will drop their threat to nuke the filibuster on health care? Hard to say since Blue Dogs like Ben Nelson could defect and deprive them of the [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Archimedes</title>
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		<dc:creator>Archimedes</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 27 Apr 2009 04:44:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>n excerpt from a peice I&#039;m working on,

The Americans who assembled on April 15th were also cognizant of this simple fact, that when you give up responsibility, you give up control. Just as your parents were responsible for you from birth till age 18, in accepting that responsibility they retained control or, custody over you and were entitled to make all the important decisions pertaining to you and your welfare. Once you emancipated and took responsibility for yourself, you were then free to make your own choices, to do so according to your prerogatives, not theirs, and manage your life as you see fit.
The situation is the same if we as adults elect to entrust our responsibilities for our own well being unto our government. We will in effect turn ourselves over to their custody, conversely the government will then be obligated to provide for you, however they see fit.  Because once you give up the responsibility, it is they who are entitled to make the important decisions. When they provide for your housing, they will tell you where you will live. When they provide for your healthcare, they will tell you what treatment is appropriate. And with the implementation of preventative care in our new government mandated healthcare system, you can rest assured that will find a mechanism to enforce what you may or may not ingest. It will give a whole new meaning to doctor’s orders. After-all, if the government is responsible for your health, they will be legally obligated to ensure your compliance with your treatment program. Just as the parent is held liable for their child’s compliance.
When they provide for your last line (2nd Amendment) of defense, they will tell you what is safe enough according to them. Just as they are telling GM what cars they are allowed to build and who they can hire and fire!
Do you not remember the old parental admonition? “I put clothes on your back, food in your stomach and a roof over your head! You will do as I tell you!” How could they get away with acting like such tyrants? Because they were legally responsible for you, and by being so, they were legally entitled to!
If you mistakenly think that you can get something for nothing, take governmental largesse without giving up the freedom to make choices for yourself, then you are not bloody paying attention. Just ask Detroit and Wall Street.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>n excerpt from a peice I&#8217;m working on,</p>
<p>The Americans who assembled on April 15th were also cognizant of this simple fact, that when you give up responsibility, you give up control. Just as your parents were responsible for you from birth till age 18, in accepting that responsibility they retained control or, custody over you and were entitled to make all the important decisions pertaining to you and your welfare. Once you emancipated and took responsibility for yourself, you were then free to make your own choices, to do so according to your prerogatives, not theirs, and manage your life as you see fit.<br />
The situation is the same if we as adults elect to entrust our responsibilities for our own well being unto our government. We will in effect turn ourselves over to their custody, conversely the government will then be obligated to provide for you, however they see fit.  Because once you give up the responsibility, it is they who are entitled to make the important decisions. When they provide for your housing, they will tell you where you will live. When they provide for your healthcare, they will tell you what treatment is appropriate. And with the implementation of preventative care in our new government mandated healthcare system, you can rest assured that will find a mechanism to enforce what you may or may not ingest. It will give a whole new meaning to doctor’s orders. After-all, if the government is responsible for your health, they will be legally obligated to ensure your compliance with your treatment program. Just as the parent is held liable for their child’s compliance.<br />
When they provide for your last line (2nd Amendment) of defense, they will tell you what is safe enough according to them. Just as they are telling GM what cars they are allowed to build and who they can hire and fire!<br />
Do you not remember the old parental admonition? “I put clothes on your back, food in your stomach and a roof over your head! You will do as I tell you!” How could they get away with acting like such tyrants? Because they were legally responsible for you, and by being so, they were legally entitled to!<br />
If you mistakenly think that you can get something for nothing, take governmental largesse without giving up the freedom to make choices for yourself, then you are not bloody paying attention. Just ask Detroit and Wall Street.</p>
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		<title>By: The Joys of Nationalized Health Care &#171; Thirteen O&#8217;Clock</title>
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		<dc:creator>The Joys of Nationalized Health Care &#171; Thirteen O&#8217;Clock</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 27 Apr 2009 02:26:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] of &#8220;care&#8221; is coming to America - by October 15. So say Congressional Democrats who will force it through on that date if it hasn&#8217;t passed by then.  Explore posts in the same categories: Other [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] of &#8220;care&#8221; is coming to America - by October 15. So say Congressional Democrats who will force it through on that date if it hasn&#8217;t passed by then.  Explore posts in the same categories: Other [...]</p>
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		<title>By: old trooper2</title>
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		<dc:creator>old trooper2</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 27 Apr 2009 02:24:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;

Let’s face it, the fascist Dems. have to get as much of their agenda passed, any way they can, before the 2010 elections. They know that there is a GOOD chance that they will no longer be in the majority in one house or the other.

TimothyJ on April 25, 2009 at 1:12 PM
&lt;/blockquote&gt;

Hey Tim, it may take more that Tea Parties.</description>
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<p>Let’s face it, the fascist Dems. have to get as much of their agenda passed, any way they can, before the 2010 elections. They know that there is a GOOD chance that they will no longer be in the majority in one house or the other.</p>
<p>TimothyJ on April 25, 2009 at 1:12 PM
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<p>Hey Tim, it may take more that Tea Parties.</p>
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		<title>By: AMERICAN VETERAN</title>
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		<dc:creator>AMERICAN VETERAN</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 26 Apr 2009 20:35:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>PELOSI, WADDA DITZ</description>
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		<title>By: Squiggy</title>
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		<dc:creator>Squiggy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 25 Apr 2009 23:59:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;The GOP is threatening to make life hell for Reid procedurally if they follow through on this,&lt;/blockquote&gt;

What, the Republicans are going to grow a pair for this?

I&#039;m holding my breath.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>The GOP is threatening to make life hell for Reid procedurally if they follow through on this,</p></blockquote>
<p>What, the Republicans are going to grow a pair for this?</p>
<p>I&#8217;m holding my breath.</p>
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		<title>By: TimothyJ</title>
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		<dc:creator>TimothyJ</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 25 Apr 2009 17:12:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Let&#039;s face it, the fascist Dems. have to get as much of their agenda passed, any way they can, before the 2010 elections.  They know that there is a GOOD chance that they will no longer be in the majority in one house or the other.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Let&#8217;s face it, the fascist Dems. have to get as much of their agenda passed, any way they can, before the 2010 elections.  They know that there is a GOOD chance that they will no longer be in the majority in one house or the other.</p>
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		<title>By: ddrintn</title>
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		<dc:creator>ddrintn</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 25 Apr 2009 17:10:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I wonder what the AMA will say about this? Talk about demoralization of an entire industry and profession...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I wonder what the AMA will say about this? Talk about demoralization of an entire industry and profession&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: TheMightyMonarch</title>
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		<dc:creator>TheMightyMonarch</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 25 Apr 2009 16:36:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;I’m sure AARP will be shocked when Medicare is folded into the new government system, and its clients start being denied treatments.&lt;/blockquote&gt;

I would hope that the AARP would have a &quot;Come to Jesus&quot; moment when their contributors start dropping like flies because Obamacare has to ration it for younger voters, but most likely the position will be &quot;tax our kids more so we can get our free scooters and drugs.&quot;

By the way, every time I see an ad for the &quot;old people scooters&quot; on TV, happily informing their customers that they can get Medicare to pay for a several-hundred dollar piece of equipment, I feel like I want to punch a kitten.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>I’m sure AARP will be shocked when Medicare is folded into the new government system, and its clients start being denied treatments.</p></blockquote>
<p>I would hope that the AARP would have a &#8220;Come to Jesus&#8221; moment when their contributors start dropping like flies because Obamacare has to ration it for younger voters, but most likely the position will be &#8220;tax our kids more so we can get our free scooters and drugs.&#8221;</p>
<p>By the way, every time I see an ad for the &#8220;old people scooters&#8221; on TV, happily informing their customers that they can get Medicare to pay for a several-hundred dollar piece of equipment, I feel like I want to punch a kitten.</p>
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		<title>By: amazingmets</title>
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		<dc:creator>amazingmets</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 25 Apr 2009 16:28:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Didn&#039;t Democrats explain how the majority of American people were against the end of the filibuster through a series of focus groups?  Republicans should get to hammering the same message they did and start using the quotes of Harry Reid about it being an ancient right, which resonated so well.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Didn&#8217;t Democrats explain how the majority of American people were against the end of the filibuster through a series of focus groups?  Republicans should get to hammering the same message they did and start using the quotes of Harry Reid about it being an ancient right, which resonated so well.</p>
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		<title>By: Rae</title>
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		<dc:creator>Rae</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 25 Apr 2009 16:15:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&#039;&lt;a href=&quot;http://online.wsj.com/article/SB124061268797954397.html&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Elections Have Consequences&lt;/a&gt;&#039;

&lt;blockquote&gt;And while the aspiration for universal coverage may be noble, the practical realities of getting there may prove harder for the American public to swallow. &quot;There&#039;s no question,&quot; the senator says, &quot;that this is a debate about rationing to a large degree. All your single-payer systems are rationing systems. It&#039;s also a debate about technology and innovation. Because you will not have capital pursuing technology, innovation and science if it&#039;s health-care related, because the return on capital won&#039;t be there. And these things are so expensive, especially on the pharmaceutical side and the biologic side, that you&#039;ll dramatically slow improvements in the quality of health care through science with a single-payer plan.&quot; Mr. Gregg thinks that critique will resonate with the public.

That said, Mr. Gregg doesn&#039;t necessarily think the American people will be happy with those consequences if the Democrats succeed in pushing through a &quot;stalking horse&quot; for a single-payer health-care system. &quot;If they produce a partisan bill and pass it on a party-line vote, it&#039;s their baby,&quot; he warns. &quot;They&#039;re going to have to defend it in the next election cycle and it&#039;s likely that it&#039;s not going to be perceived as fair by the American people.&quot;&lt;/blockquote&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8216;<a href="http://online.wsj.com/article/SB124061268797954397.html" rel="nofollow">Elections Have Consequences</a>&#8216;</p>
<blockquote><p>And while the aspiration for universal coverage may be noble, the practical realities of getting there may prove harder for the American public to swallow. &#8220;There&#8217;s no question,&#8221; the senator says, &#8220;that this is a debate about rationing to a large degree. All your single-payer systems are rationing systems. It&#8217;s also a debate about technology and innovation. Because you will not have capital pursuing technology, innovation and science if it&#8217;s health-care related, because the return on capital won&#8217;t be there. And these things are so expensive, especially on the pharmaceutical side and the biologic side, that you&#8217;ll dramatically slow improvements in the quality of health care through science with a single-payer plan.&#8221; Mr. Gregg thinks that critique will resonate with the public.</p>
<p>That said, Mr. Gregg doesn&#8217;t necessarily think the American people will be happy with those consequences if the Democrats succeed in pushing through a &#8220;stalking horse&#8221; for a single-payer health-care system. &#8220;If they produce a partisan bill and pass it on a party-line vote, it&#8217;s their baby,&#8221; he warns. &#8220;They&#8217;re going to have to defend it in the next election cycle and it&#8217;s likely that it&#8217;s not going to be perceived as fair by the American people.&#8221;</p></blockquote>
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		<title>By: Dark-Star</title>
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		<dc:creator>Dark-Star</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 25 Apr 2009 15:34:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;

We’re toast.

And as Mark Steyn said, “…there’s nowhere else to go.”

IrishEi on April 24, 2009 at 7:55 PM
&lt;/blockquote&gt;

That pretty much sums it up. Our chances of winning peacefully or violently are almost nil, and there&#039;s really no place left to run to.

Somebody invent cheap space travel or dig up the Stargate on the double...our planet is way too small anymore.</description>
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<p>We’re toast.</p>
<p>And as Mark Steyn said, “…there’s nowhere else to go.”</p>
<p>IrishEi on April 24, 2009 at 7:55 PM
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<p>That pretty much sums it up. Our chances of winning peacefully or violently are almost nil, and there&#8217;s really no place left to run to.</p>
<p>Somebody invent cheap space travel or dig up the Stargate on the double&#8230;our planet is way too small anymore.</p>
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		<title>By: calguyintexas</title>
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		<dc:creator>calguyintexas</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 25 Apr 2009 13:57:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Brought to you by the democratic party - bringing slavery to America since the 1780s!

There is only one way to prevent the descent into communism, and it is not legal.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Brought to you by the democratic party &#8211; bringing slavery to America since the 1780s!</p>
<p>There is only one way to prevent the descent into communism, and it is not legal.</p>
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		<title>By: Obama Officially Ends Bipartisanship &#124; NEOAVATARA</title>
		<link>http://hotair.com/archives/2009/04/24/deadline-dems-will-nuke-filibuster-if-health-care-reform-doesnt-pass-by-october-15/comment-page-2/#comment-2141054</link>
		<dc:creator>Obama Officially Ends Bipartisanship &#124; NEOAVATARA</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 25 Apr 2009 13:23:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] be considered a stunning move, the White House asked Congressional Democrats to consider using a budgetary parliamentary tactic, reconciliation, in the Senate in order to avoid a Republican filibuster over his health care [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] be considered a stunning move, the White House asked Congressional Democrats to consider using a budgetary parliamentary tactic, reconciliation, in the Senate in order to avoid a Republican filibuster over his health care [...]</p>
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		<title>By: kelley in virginia</title>
		<link>http://hotair.com/archives/2009/04/24/deadline-dems-will-nuke-filibuster-if-health-care-reform-doesnt-pass-by-october-15/comment-page-2/#comment-2141050</link>
		<dc:creator>kelley in virginia</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 25 Apr 2009 13:19:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>i wrote one of my senators about this yesterday (sen. jim webb).  he, of course, takes no vote without consulting me.  ha ha ha.

start writing, calling &amp; emailing.  and maybe we should plan some minor &quot;protests&quot; this  summer so the senate can see them while they&#039;re on summer break.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>i wrote one of my senators about this yesterday (sen. jim webb).  he, of course, takes no vote without consulting me.  ha ha ha.</p>
<p>start writing, calling &amp; emailing.  and maybe we should plan some minor &#8220;protests&#8221; this  summer so the senate can see them while they&#8217;re on summer break.</p>
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		<title>By: marklmail</title>
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		<dc:creator>marklmail</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 25 Apr 2009 13:12:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Well, get ready for the pitchforks then.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well, get ready for the pitchforks then.</p>
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		<title>By: Terrye</title>
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		<dc:creator>Terrye</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 25 Apr 2009 12:58:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I wonder if the Democrats will actually all go along with this? It might depend on what the economy is like in October.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I wonder if the Democrats will actually all go along with this? It might depend on what the economy is like in October.</p>
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		<title>By: eaglewingz08</title>
		<link>http://hotair.com/archives/2009/04/24/deadline-dems-will-nuke-filibuster-if-health-care-reform-doesnt-pass-by-october-15/comment-page-2/#comment-2141009</link>
		<dc:creator>eaglewingz08</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 25 Apr 2009 12:41:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Waiting for all those goo goo groups who were positively outraged when the repubs wanted to nuke the filibuster on judicial nominees which never were subject to filibusting during most of the republic. The dems have to think once, let alone twice (thinking about consequences is not a dem strongpoint). If they do this against the will of the American public, they will not be in power long, and the repubs on retaking office will not have any compunction to do the same things to democraps on significant legislation. I hear that called the golden rule, I wonder if dems might have heard about that?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Waiting for all those goo goo groups who were positively outraged when the repubs wanted to nuke the filibuster on judicial nominees which never were subject to filibusting during most of the republic. The dems have to think once, let alone twice (thinking about consequences is not a dem strongpoint). If they do this against the will of the American public, they will not be in power long, and the repubs on retaking office will not have any compunction to do the same things to democraps on significant legislation. I hear that called the golden rule, I wonder if dems might have heard about that?</p>
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		<title>By: petefrt</title>
		<link>http://hotair.com/archives/2009/04/24/deadline-dems-will-nuke-filibuster-if-health-care-reform-doesnt-pass-by-october-15/comment-page-2/#comment-2141007</link>
		<dc:creator>petefrt</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 25 Apr 2009 12:39:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Power grab? That&#039;s putting it euphemistically. How about &lt;em&gt;coup d&#039;etat&lt;/em&gt;, especially since Obama ran as a moderate and now rules as a radical. In law, it&#039;s kinda like &quot;theft by deceit&quot;.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Power grab? That&#8217;s putting it euphemistically. How about <em>coup d&#8217;etat</em>, especially since Obama ran as a moderate and now rules as a radical. In law, it&#8217;s kinda like &#8220;theft by deceit&#8221;.</p>
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		<title>By: JiangxiDad</title>
		<link>http://hotair.com/archives/2009/04/24/deadline-dems-will-nuke-filibuster-if-health-care-reform-doesnt-pass-by-october-15/comment-page-2/#comment-2140990</link>
		<dc:creator>JiangxiDad</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 25 Apr 2009 12:05:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;

I really have just lost all hope. I got nothing.

Gatsu on April 24, 2009 at 9:56 PM&lt;/blockquote&gt;

Understood. You&#039;re probably of a certain age. Our world is disintegrating, and we&#039;re standing on thin cracking ice. Well, you&#039;re not going to have a rosy retirement or live out your days peacefully, but I bet you had 30-40 good years. 

The question now is how do we try to get that for our kids and grandkids? I think we do that by making sure that when it all comes tumbling down, it tumbles down on the liberals as well. We must take them out, as we say goodbye to the system we&#039;ve grown accustomed to, but that nourished them. 

As another commenter said, &quot;Scorch the earth and die on your feet. Or live on your knees and eventually become extinct.&quot;  The real sin will be if we allow them to impose an E. Germany type system on our posterity that lasts several generations. If you do nothing to try and stop that, then you are guilty. 

I may have lived as a quiet nobody, but like most people, I&#039;m pretty ferocious when it comes to my kids. Personally, I&#039;d rather be shot trying to get over the wall--not because I&#039;m brave, but because I&#039;d die on the inside anyway. I&#039;d shovel shit for a living if it would keep me  a free man.</description>
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<p>I really have just lost all hope. I got nothing.</p>
<p>Gatsu on April 24, 2009 at 9:56 PM</p></blockquote>
<p>Understood. You&#8217;re probably of a certain age. Our world is disintegrating, and we&#8217;re standing on thin cracking ice. Well, you&#8217;re not going to have a rosy retirement or live out your days peacefully, but I bet you had 30-40 good years. </p>
<p>The question now is how do we try to get that for our kids and grandkids? I think we do that by making sure that when it all comes tumbling down, it tumbles down on the liberals as well. We must take them out, as we say goodbye to the system we&#8217;ve grown accustomed to, but that nourished them. </p>
<p>As another commenter said, &#8220;Scorch the earth and die on your feet. Or live on your knees and eventually become extinct.&#8221;  The real sin will be if we allow them to impose an E. Germany type system on our posterity that lasts several generations. If you do nothing to try and stop that, then you are guilty. </p>
<p>I may have lived as a quiet nobody, but like most people, I&#8217;m pretty ferocious when it comes to my kids. Personally, I&#8217;d rather be shot trying to get over the wall&#8211;not because I&#8217;m brave, but because I&#8217;d die on the inside anyway. I&#8217;d shovel shit for a living if it would keep me  a free man.</p>
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		<title>By: tarpon</title>
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		<dc:creator>tarpon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 25 Apr 2009 12:03:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Destroy America, come hell or high water. The Democrats plan. Hey look at the bright side, they used to lynch their political opponents.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Destroy America, come hell or high water. The Democrats plan. Hey look at the bright side, they used to lynch their political opponents.</p>
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		<title>By: Loxodonta</title>
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		<dc:creator>Loxodonta</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 25 Apr 2009 06:26:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;Maquis on April 25, 2009 at 1:52 AM&lt;/blockquote&gt;

Oui. La vie peut être très difficile. Je regrette que ce soit ainsi. Il y a des moments qui sont très sombres, avec beaucoup d&#039;incertitude et douleur. Je voudrais vous être utile, mais regretter que je ne sache pas comment. Et j&#039;avoue que je ne comprends pas beaucoup de français. J&#039;essaie parce que je crois que cela pourrait être utile à vous. Surtout, puisque l&#039;anglais est aussi très difficile pour moi.

Jusqu&#039;à ce que nous nous rencontrions de nouveau. Soyez bons à vous. Bonne nuit.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>Maquis on April 25, 2009 at 1:52 AM</p></blockquote>
<p>Oui. La vie peut être très difficile. Je regrette que ce soit ainsi. Il y a des moments qui sont très sombres, avec beaucoup d&#8217;incertitude et douleur. Je voudrais vous être utile, mais regretter que je ne sache pas comment. Et j&#8217;avoue que je ne comprends pas beaucoup de français. J&#8217;essaie parce que je crois que cela pourrait être utile à vous. Surtout, puisque l&#8217;anglais est aussi très difficile pour moi.</p>
<p>Jusqu&#8217;à ce que nous nous rencontrions de nouveau. Soyez bons à vous. Bonne nuit.</p>
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