Deadline: Dems will nuke filibuster if health-care reform doesn’t pass by October 15
posted at 7:49 pm on April 24, 2009 by Allahpundit
So says TNR. They want this to be bipartisan, of course, the same way they wanted the stimulus to be “bipartisan” — i.e. the GOP getting little in return for voting yes and thereby giving the left political cover in case the program stinks — but they’re not going to wait forever. If there’s no deal by October 15, they’ll invoke “reconciliation” and push it through with a simple majority in the Senate. They’ve got the votes and, evidently, the political will. Nothing left to do now except wait and watch the inevitable decline of American health care.
The reonciliation instruction specifies a date. That date, according to one congressional staffer, is October 15. (The original House reconciliation instruction had a late September deadline.)
In other words, the House and Senate each have until that day to pass health care legislation.
If they haven’t, then both houses will consider health care under the reconciliation process, which is relevant primarily for the way it affects the Senate. There will be a limit on the time of debate. Republicans won’t be able to filibuster it.
So there’s still a chance for bipartisanship, which is what both Obama and Democratic leaders want–or, at least, what they say they want. But if bipartisanship doesn’t work, then Dems can pass this on their own. They won’t even need Ben Nelson.
The GOP is threatening to make life hell for Reid procedurally if they follow through on this, but as David Freddoso explains, there’s not much they can do to stop it. Read his whole post; it’s a valuable primer on “reconciliation,” a topic we’re all going to become very familiar with as this debate gets going. Using it to bust the filibuster is actually an abuse of what it was intended for, but then the same could be said of the filibuster itself. Exit quotation from Paul Ryan: “This takes mission creep to a whole new level. Now they’re talking about the possible nationalization of 17 percent of our economy in health care, 8 percent of the economy in energy, and the largest tax increase in history — all through a process which will have between 35 and 105 total hours of debate between the House and the Senate . . . That’s an enormous power grab.”
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eaglescout1998 on April 24, 2009 at 7:52 PM
Meet you at Bunker Hill.
Bishop on April 24, 2009 at 7:53 PM
We can haz revolution?
WisCon on April 24, 2009 at 7:53 PM
On a more serious note: Jaysus, are we in trouble.
Bishop on April 24, 2009 at 7:54 PM
Let the left do it. It will provide more fodder for the trials after the junta is thrown out of power. All in power now must be held accountable – and severely so.
progressoverpeace on April 24, 2009 at 7:54 PM
Is this a bad thing ? If the GOP retakes the White house we will finally be able to overcome the Ted kennedy deadending of laws.
William Amos on April 24, 2009 at 7:54 PM
Making Rick Perry actually sound ahead of the curve.
TexasDan on April 24, 2009 at 7:54 PM
Two parties, same deal. Growth of government.
True_King on April 24, 2009 at 7:54 PM
We’re toast.
And as Mark Steyn said, “…there’s nowhere else to go.”
IrishEi on April 24, 2009 at 7:55 PM
Obviously the Democrats view taking over health care as more important than voting on confirming Supreme Court judges.
Where’s McCain’s group now?
nerdbert on April 24, 2009 at 7:55 PM
Amnesty’s next.
True_King on April 24, 2009 at 7:56 PM
Greatest example of Elections have consequences yet.
portlandon on April 24, 2009 at 7:56 PM
Doesn’t matter…it will pass, of course, but the GOP needs to fight it every inch or disappear as a viable alternative to the Dems…that may have already happened, but if they don’t try to stop this, then they’ve admitted they are no long a political party….just a bunch of disembodied pols.
AUINSC on April 24, 2009 at 7:57 PM
Gettin serious now fellas…and ladies….
Why they are goin to have to snatch my insurance policy
from my cold dead hands I a reckon……
izoneguy on April 24, 2009 at 7:57 PM
Boy, for a political party that likes to think history is on its side, the Dems sure do seem to be in a rush to push everything through ASAP.
If this passes, the clock counting down to the dissolution of the US a la the USSR will officially start. There’s a lot of ruin in a nation, but it isn’t infinite.
It’s going to be a lot of fun to see the inevitable rationing take place in a context where the people whose care will be rationed are armed. I foresee lots of standoffs in emergency rooms in our future.
venividivici on April 24, 2009 at 7:57 PM
Amnesty’s next.
True_King on April 24, 2009 at 7:56 PM
Yep, with oppressive gun control right behind it.
Bishop on April 24, 2009 at 7:57 PM
Welcome to the Hotel California. You can check out but you can never leave.
portlandon on April 24, 2009 at 7:57 PM
the GOP already gave up the fillibuster when it lost all of its elections. I dont see a downside to this as the dems already have the votes to destroy america.
William Amos on April 24, 2009 at 7:58 PM
*groan*
:- (
IrishEi on April 24, 2009 at 7:58 PM
Obama is doing a great job with that whole new way of governing, isn’t he?
This is actually a great disappointment to me. There was a time I really liked Obama, and that was primarily because I thought he would actually take some time to debate what has to be done with health care. He talked soooo much about respecting all arguments.
Instead, he’s turning it over to Congress and encouraging them to blast through whatever they want. In the meantime, I’m sure he’ll find a way to smear the Republicans as being obstructionists.
MayBee on April 24, 2009 at 7:58 PM
Another way for Spector, Collins and Snowe to stab us in the back.
Branch Rickey on April 24, 2009 at 7:59 PM
We hear praise of a power-wielding, arm-twisting President who “gets his program through Congress” by knowing the use of power. Throughout the course of history, there have been many other such wielders of power. There have even been dictators who regularly held plebiscites, in which their dictatorships were approved by an Ivory-soap-like percentage of the electorate. But their countries were not free, nor can any country remain free under such despotic power. Some of the current worship of powerful executives may come from those who admire strength and accomplishment of any sort. Others hail the display of Presidential strength simply because they approve of the result reached by the use of power. This is nothing less than the totalitarian philosophy that the end justifies the means If ever there was a philosophy of government totally at war with that of the Founding Fathers, it is this one.
- Barry Goldwater
MB4 on April 24, 2009 at 7:59 PM
One only hopes that Republicans fight tooth and nail because this will be a disaster.
moxie_neanderthal on April 24, 2009 at 8:00 PM
What conservatives and non retarded independents (who cares about the liberals at this point, I dont’) is come up with a system to bypass the coming socialist health care system. Avoid feeding that beast all together and supply and support a free market system to oppose it that also helps the needy that want to take part in it rather than succumb to the state waiting lists.
If the socialist system is bypassed successfully, the ‘one’ will no doubt institute punitive measures for those that refuse it, making the alternative to death by state health care the ONLY way to go. Then, when republicans (conservatives) remove the libtard socialist idiots from power the basis of a decent system will already exist and be that much easier to implement when tossing the garbage socialist mess into the trash.
Spiritk9 on April 24, 2009 at 8:00 PM
The dems are making up for 15 years of minority status in 1 year. They are out of control. They don’t even care if they over reach anymore. Who’s gonna stop them?
digging bunker behind house this weekend……
portlandon on April 24, 2009 at 8:00 PM
Might as well get rid of Presidential term limits too, you know, for the good of the country in these perilous times.
Bishop on April 24, 2009 at 8:00 PM
Sharia Law for everyone !
William Amos on April 24, 2009 at 8:00 PM
How does it feel to live in a communist dictatorship?
rplat on April 24, 2009 at 8:01 PM
Screw you, liberals. Screw you.
Mayhem on April 24, 2009 at 8:01 PM
They won’t need those three RINOs, since reconciliation requires only a simple majority (there are 57 or 58 dems already in the Senate.)
But that’s not to say that those three stooges wouldn’t throw their votes in just for good measure, and just to make sure the dems can claim “bipartisanship!”
IrishEi on April 24, 2009 at 8:02 PM
If the bill isn’t entitled, “The Civilizational Suicide Bill of 2009″, it should be.
venividivici on April 24, 2009 at 8:02 PM
The dems are making up for 15 years of minority status in 1 year. They are out of control. They don’t even care if they over reach anymore. Who’s gonna stop them?
I’m not sure, perhaps individual states or groups of states banding together to resist? I’m not exactly a scholar in that arena so I don’t really know what recourse states have, I just there is something they can do.
Bishop on April 24, 2009 at 8:02 PM
bipartisan.
They keep using that word. I do not think it means what they think it means.
Soon it’ll simply be 51 votes in the Senate for everything. Dems must not be worried that they’re going to lose future elections, because elections are messy, prone to fraud and if card-check is good enough for unionization, well, we can have your friendly neighborhood ACORN community organization staff drop by to
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History Chaser on April 24, 2009 at 8:04 PM
Food production, we will need to give that over to the federal government too. At least there will be plenty of new jobs in the fields and rice paddies.
Bishop on April 24, 2009 at 8:04 PM
You Americans are so screwed. We’ve had socialized medicine for decades, and it gets worse with each passing year. Now, you can’t even get a family doctor anymore because of a shortage. A lot of people now go only to walk-in clinics staffed by young, inexperienced med school grads. I got my family doctor 15 years ago, and even then, he didn’t want to take any new patients he was overbooked. Since then, I’ve moved 60 miles away but still see him because I can’t get a new family doctor where I live today in a city of 100,000 people. What’s worse, my family doctor is only in the office for two days a week. The other days he has to do emergency room duty at a hospital as mandated by the government.
But, hey, this is what CHANGE was about. Surely 64 million voters can’t be wrong? Isn’t democracy grand?
keep the change on April 24, 2009 at 8:04 PM
Good. We have until Oct 15th to save our health care. Thanks for the update.
JellyToast on April 24, 2009 at 8:05 PM
What a novel idea: read a bill?
Branch Rickey on April 24, 2009 at 8:05 PM
Once we get our amnesty from King Obama and his Royal Court, we will all come to your country. We will all have at least 10 ninos and in a generation we will overwhelm and deport most of you Gringos! Some of you, if you learn Spanish real well, we might let you stay to pick our lettuce or mow our lawns or take care of OUR children in what used to be your houses.
Those who don’t learn Spanish will be deported to Alaska. That is until Al Gore’s global warming heats things up and we want Alaska too, then we will deport you all to New Orleans. It will probably all be under water by then anyway. I hope you Gringos can swim, he, he, he. My muy bad!!!
So give it up and LEARN SPANISH! You should probably all buy Mexican flags too and fly them in your front yard and on your pickup trucks. If you already have an American flag there it is alright if you keep it, as long as you fly it upside down and below our great Mexican flag.
Now repeat after me – I pledge allegiance to the flag of the United States of Mucho Grande Mexico, and to the Republic for which it use to stand, one nation under
Emperor VinyKing Obama – I am letting him think for now that he will be in charge, with everything for us, and nothing for you.And remember Gringos,
APRENDER EL ESPANOL!!!
VinyFoxy on April 24, 2009 at 8:06 PM
Democrats have no end of arrogance
William Amos on April 24, 2009 at 8:07 PM
It’s going to take a million people showing up at Congress to get this stopped; I hope someone out there has the muscle to arrange such an event.
Bishop on April 24, 2009 at 8:10 PM
Don’t worry, once the GOP accepts gay marriage and ditches those wretched so-cons, everything would be hunky-dory.
promachus on April 24, 2009 at 8:11 PM
That’s exactly what I was going for: useful idiots giving cover for the commies…
Branch Rickey on April 24, 2009 at 8:11 PM
This liberal power trip is getting seriously out of control.
Emily M. on April 24, 2009 at 8:12 PM
We need to be proactive. No longer can Republicans run on just what they are going stop,, or even the new plans they have to pass. they need to be asked “What will you repeal!”
I hate it when I listen to people say that once something is done it cannot be undone. Even Rush says that. I just hate it.
The fact that we had Welfare reform under Clinton proves anything is possible! If the freaking walls can crumble and be torn down around Berlin,, surely it is possible for a majority to repeal oppressive laws within the United States!!
Lets make history in 2010! Lets put into office a Republican majority that will REPEAL! Repeal has got to be the next rallying cry! I don’t give a rats rear end what anyone says,, we can repeal every freaking law we want to as long as we have a majority!
JellyToast on April 24, 2009 at 8:13 PM
Thankfully, my entire family, myself included, are in generally very good physical health and require no maintenance health care on a constant or sporadic basis. Thankfully, that runs in the family, until we get up around 70′ish years old. Then things start to get shakey. Aside from the routine occassional flu/strep/minor injury incident etc that requires a doctor’s attention once in a great while that is.
It’s what’s going to happen if and when something crops up out of the blue, whether organic in nature or by accident or folly, that scares the hell out of me for my children and grand-children… and myself.
It’s also what’s going to happen to my aging parents and other aging family members that will eventually require the possibilities of hip/knee replacements, heart care, or Heaven forbid… cancer care. Yes, including for myself. I admit I’m no spring chicken any longer.
Senior Citizens rarely qualify for adequate treatment in Socialist Healthcare because ‘it cost too much and the remaining life span is short compared to younger people who require the same type of procedures and care’. Old people aren’t worth the investment; according to Socialist doctrine. It may not start out that way, but it will inevitably erode into that way of conducting healthcare business as the costs peak and cost cutting measures are demanded, and ordered by the Government.
Man. I once felt such an immense sense of pride and belonging, and as though I was the luckiest person in the world to be born an American. In my own lifetime that has been whittled down by the ultra-partisan liberal Defeatocrats to; ‘Meh… better than being born in Mexico, I guess.’ Now, even that sentiment is beginning to wane.
SilverStar830 on April 24, 2009 at 8:13 PM
Let them do it . . . let the insane tyrannical fools walk on our rights and the Constitution until the people feel the intolerable weight of their jack boots and run everyone of them out of the country. These are sad and dangerous times.
rplat on April 24, 2009 at 8:14 PM
I am starting to build the wall between New Mexico and Texas, should we let Oklahoma in? What about North Louisiana? I won’t build the wall between Texas & Mexico until we have run all the illegal varmits out.
izoneguy on April 24, 2009 at 8:14 PM
Im Conservative. Im not ashamed of America I ashamed of Democrats.
William Amos on April 24, 2009 at 8:15 PM
Sh#t will hit the FanDay!
It’ll be Liberal Sh#t Hurricane!
I suggest the Republican Party stock up on,cow boots,
the ones you need to wear cleaning out cow stalls,after
the Liberal’s have their collective cat-inip-tion fits!!
canopfor on April 24, 2009 at 8:15 PM
Time for some “Harry and Louise” ads.
Wethal on April 24, 2009 at 8:17 PM
Remember,when Bill became elected,First Lady HilRod was
un-elected,and therefore unaccountable,and she tried
single handed to ram healthcare through!!
And the Liberals are try’n again!!
canopfor on April 24, 2009 at 8:20 PM
Thanks to all you McCain supporters (in the primary) who refused the GOP to put up a real candidate capable of stopping the filthy liar or Hillary. YOU RAT BASTARD TRAITORS are as guilty of killing America as any of the idiots buying that Obama crucifix from JC Penney.
highhopes on April 24, 2009 at 8:20 PM
Viny, you are a turd…..hee hee.
HornetSting on April 24, 2009 at 8:23 PM
Roger,
Heard your message, all assets will be delivered ASAP, no prisoners are expected and no enemy ordinance to be in operation.
You asked for it, Obama.
MNDavenotPC on April 24, 2009 at 8:23 PM
This means that I will lose both of my parents to the inevitable age-based rationing of healthcare.
I guess that’s one way to resolve the cost of medical care for the baby boomer generation.
I will be praying later tonight.
mad scientist on April 24, 2009 at 8:23 PM
YOU RAT BASTARD TRAITORS..
highhopes on April 24,2009 at 8:20PM.
highhopes: “Oddballs” seems more appropriate!
canopfor on April 24, 2009 at 8:24 PM
I’m not so much ashamed of being American as I am ashamed of American politicians and my fellow American’s who put them where they are. These days, the American Government touches, shapes, and molds EVERYTHING in our daily lives.
‘Big Government’ is more like morbidly obese.
I’m ashamed of our fearless leaders and I’m deeply ashamed of my fellow American’s whom put them in power via starry eyes behind rose colored glasses. It’s the blind leading the blind.
SilverStar830 on April 24, 2009 at 8:24 PM
Texas can set-up health sanctuary cities. There are cities all over the U.S. that
protect illegals why not have some sane health care options? Much of the health care in America will be driven underground in a black market. Doctors are already quitting. Most of the healthcare in America will look like VA hospitals. Government workers, punching in & out with little regard except for their own paychecks. Look for many doctors to go off-shore. Again, the rich will get what they need. The poor people’s situation won’t change that much and the majority of Americans (especially democrats that voted for Obama) will wonder what happened. This as they also struggle to pay the extra $300 a month for gas & electricity. Because Al Gore said Crap & Tax is even more important then the civil right movement.
izoneguy on April 24, 2009 at 8:25 PM
highhopes
Fred Thompson or Romney were the real choices. I agree with you. Once again the Christian right screws our image over by mixing politics and religion.
And before you all blast me, I will let you know my parents are the most devoted Christians I have ever come across, deeply suspicious of secularism and Mormonism…and they supported Romney.
Modern Whig party, dig it baby.
Dr. Manhattan on April 24, 2009 at 8:26 PM
Of course that’s not in the Constitution and any state that has already passed a State Sovereignty Resolution can, if they have the guts, just tell Congress to stuff it. Same with Energy.
Dusty on April 24, 2009 at 8:30 PM
Right now would be a good time for Romney to step up and explain how he tried it in MA, and Romneycare has a been a financial diasater.
The practical argument, “Yes, we tried it here, and it won’t work” would be a lot more persuasive than trying to compare the Dems’ ideas to Canada or Britain.
Wethal on April 24, 2009 at 8:31 PM
I think I get your meaning. I’m pretty sure anyways… but get this:
Those same “Rat Bastards” are rooting for and pushing Sarah Palin as our next POTUS candidate.
Obama’s gonna win re-election, hands down, if that happens. He’ll be termed out upon re-election and will have NOTHING to lose during his second term, short of impeachable offense. You haven’t seen fascists imposing and forcing their self-serving agenda’s on the people no matter what the people want until Uncle Obammie and our Defeatocrat Congress gets another 4-years of wholly unmitigated free reign “…whether you like it or not!”
…
I live in California. I can see Mexico from my house!
SilverStar830 on April 24, 2009 at 8:32 PM
ORALE!!!!!!!! Viva Mexico Hermano!
True_King on April 24, 2009 at 8:32 PM
Glad you all finally got to this. It’s not Oct 15, though. The nuclear option is stuffed in the current budget bill, so it can be used on anything that they see fit.
lorien1973 on April 24, 2009 at 8:32 PM
Where is McCain on this? Where are his democratic “pals” in the “Gang of 14″? I agreed with what he did then to preserve the filibuster. He argued that the GOP would not always be a majority and removing the filibuster might create a senatorial tyranny. The filibuster almost forces bipartisanship.
I would love, just love, to hear from the absolute hypocrites on the liberal side who were screaming bloody murder and whining about Mr. Smith goes to Washington when the Republicans threatened to end the filibuster a few years back. I guarantee they agree with ridding the Senate of the filibuster now. What an immature joke politics and political punditry has become. With very, and I mean very, few exceptions, capitol hill and newsrooms nationwide are filled with children. If you want to predict politics just think of how a child would act and you will be spot on every time. What a disgrace!
titus_pullo on April 24, 2009 at 8:36 PM
Since were quoting Barry Goldwater,
Hm, maybe ol Barry knew something.
True_King on April 24, 2009 at 8:37 PM
The Dem’s don’t want bipartisanship. They want the Republicans to knuckle under, period. They are worse than a newly rich lotto winner on a drunken spending binge, with no thoughts of responsibility or future repercussions.
If the Republicans in Congress cave and give the Democrats the cover they are seeking on health care or cap and trade, they are dumber than dirt. We need to let the Democrats own the results of their agenda, lock, stock, and barrel.
This way, when the folly of these imprudent policies becomes apparent, the voters will have no trouble discerning where the blame belongs.
hillbillyjim on April 24, 2009 at 8:40 PM
If nationalized health-care passes, I honestly believe that I will die from an overdose of morphine prescribed for me without my knowledge or approval. Even without health-care “reform,” I believe that I’ve already seen this done to more than one patient whose life was not “worth the investment.”
Loxodonta on April 24, 2009 at 8:44 PM
By the time Obama’s first term is over, America will have been transformed beyond all recognition. It won’t be the United States that we all know and love so much any more.
Jay Mac on April 24, 2009 at 8:45 PM
We need to let the Democrats own the results of thier agenda
lock,stock,and barrel.
hillbillyjim on April 24,2009 at 8:40PM.
hillbillyjim: Thats a 10-4,and Amen on that!:)
canopfor on April 24, 2009 at 8:45 PM
They tried it in Tennessee and Maine, too, and both went horribly. It simply can’t be done. It’s trying to square a circle.
venividivici on April 24, 2009 at 8:54 PM
Robert Byrd may be a crusty old lib, but kudos to him for standing up to the Dem leadership re: their bastardization of reconciliation.
KS Rex on April 24, 2009 at 8:59 PM
Time for some 10mm justice.
Chaz706 on April 24, 2009 at 9:02 PM
They won’t try that for at least another year. That’s how long U.S. job losses are expected to continue. As long as the economy is bad and unemployment is increasing, the House won’t dare touch an amnesty bill. They all want to get re-elected. But as soon as employment picks up again, they’ll be back to telling us again about all those job Americans won’t do.
AZCoyote on April 24, 2009 at 9:12 PM
So which group will be mercy killed first once the inevitable rationings are implemented? Will it be our parents, us or our children?
Kensington on April 24, 2009 at 9:17 PM
Jusy what the he11 did you expect? We lost. Remember when we had the majority control and our guys were too chickenchit to do anything? I knew then that it would come to this. And by this… I mean The End.
Griz on April 24, 2009 at 9:19 PM
Soylent Green. Great source of protein.
Wethal on April 24, 2009 at 9:20 PM
Someday, the blowback from all of this is going to be awesome.
ddrintn on April 24, 2009 at 9:21 PM
I honestly believe we are witnessing the destruction of the Democrat Party. Not the destruction of the country.
ddrintn on April 24, 2009 at 9:23 PM
In TN, it was never ever what is was touted to be, and it was (to use a favorite word of the wackos) “unsustainable”.
ddrintn on April 24, 2009 at 9:25 PM
You underestimate their lust for power. They can’t afford to take a chance of losing the House in 2010, they have to pass it ASAP. This has nothing to do with 2010, by then Obama should have most of his domestic agenda complete, they are willing to lose the House as long as the programs are implemented because it means power for the long term. These programs are never going to be reversed once passed.
The international bankers, the CFR, the Trilateral Commission, the IMF, the World Bank, they will all get their way. We will in effect be a two tiered system of elites and serfs. Then they are free to institute their one child policy in the name of saving the earth.
It’s all going according to plan. They lose in the end, but many of the ones who cannot see what is happening are about to be caught unawares.
There is no rapture to save them.
True_King on April 24, 2009 at 9:27 PM
Great, I’ll do what it takes to get proper treatment for my fiance’s fibromyalgia should they not approve treatments that are available now. Look at what they just did with treatments for thyroid issues in the UK.
aikidoka on April 24, 2009 at 9:34 PM
The sheep are jumping off the cliff and they want us to follow along. No thanks. I will take a better path to freedom. This country is finished.
MTZinIL on April 24, 2009 at 9:35 PM
I don’t get why many on here seem to be conceding this fight. We pushed back Congress on “comprehensive immigation reform.” Why are we assuming we cannot do the same with health care? I think the potential for coverage being extended to illegal aliens will by itself be very unacceptable to many.
I don’t know any Dems who think this is a good idea. Their only counter is that the Republicans aren’t offering any alternatives. I think if that were to happen, we’d have a chance. It would also help if the conservative media were to begin running daily reports on the horrific results of government run health care in other countries.
Don’t know whose line it was, but someone said “if you love waiting in line at the DMV, you will love government health care.” I think people can relate to that kind of logic.
dfwaggie on April 24, 2009 at 9:39 PM
I only know what I read here and there. I thought it was modeled on “Hillarycare”. No?
venividivici on April 24, 2009 at 9:42 PM
After 2010 there will only be the crumbs left. If the R’s ever win again they will just be the tweaking crew, nibbling around the edges.
There is a train running. One day it is torture, one day it is banks, one day it is Hugo.
The core is simple…remake America. Block by Block, city by city, transform America and the world. Yes we can.
Obama is a Leviatan, with his crowd + the press he will win.
r keller on April 24, 2009 at 9:42 PM
Leviathan, sorry
r keller on April 24, 2009 at 9:43 PM
I’m not conceding , but it does seem like the country has lost about 50 IQ points collectively since the comprehensive immigration reform days.
venividivici on April 24, 2009 at 9:44 PM
Let them. Let them own the whole package. What is the point of Republican’s chaining themselves to the deck of the Titanic?
Limerick on April 24, 2009 at 9:45 PM
Thanks Heather Mac Donald, Chris Buckley, and Peggy Noonan!
JohnJ on April 24, 2009 at 9:45 PM
Contrast the statements of idiot Pelosi in 04 when she praised the rules allowing the minority to add to bills, with her reversal of such rules when SHE descended to her current state.
Bipartisanship to a Dem is “do what I want”. Some Reps still don’t get it…they think the smiles, when they side with Dems, appreciate their intelligence. In fact, as Quisling and Petain found out, useful idiots are discarded when they are no longer needed. The text behind the smiles is “you silly twit, you fell for it!”
We just had a similar moment in CA with a Rep state senator who sold his vote to pass the budget for the chance to run for a higher office due to redistricting. Dumber than dirt, the guy is, a small man in stature and intellect. He will be looking for real work when his election cycle comes up. No Dems will come to help, and Reps are too embarrassed with the poor sod.
The Reps have nothing to lose anymore. Scorch the earth and die on your feet. Or live on your knees and eventually become extinct.
Harry Schell on April 24, 2009 at 9:46 PM
also, remember two statements
I won
I’m the only thing between you and the pitchforks.
How many times has Obama said this over the years in Chicago? My gues is many.
Even his “flip flop” on torture can be seen as a brush back pitch. Oh, just because Rahm said that the other day does not mean that I will not exercise my power. Do not relax. I won.
r keller on April 24, 2009 at 9:47 PM
Never saw that one coming.
/Sarcasm
The Democrats are playing for keeps while the Republicans are playing for a good mention in the NYT.
RJL on April 24, 2009 at 9:49 PM
I agree that the R’s need to start talking loud and very tough. Talk about Centralized Power. Always talk about Power…don’t talk about bigger government, talk about power. Stronger, muscular government.
Talk about Lust for Power.
r keller on April 24, 2009 at 9:52 PM
The day this and/or amnesty become law is the day I become a very real enemy of the state.
dmann on April 24, 2009 at 9:53 PM
I really have just lost all hope. I got nothing.
Gatsu on April 24, 2009 at 9:56 PM
dfwaggie on April 24, 2009 at 10:00 PM
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