Time to start freaking out about Pakistan
posted at 4:32 pm on April 23, 2009 by Allahpundit
Well past time, actually, but this Daily Mail piece has had me on edge since morning. The Kardari government gave the Taliban an inch by signing away Swat so now they’ve decided to take a mile in Buner. The wages of appeasement:
There are fears that the Taliban, who have already been handed control of the Swat valley, could now take Islamabad and topple the government.
Militants are believed to be just 60 miles away – and edging closer by the day…
Many in Buner are now too frightened to speak to reporters.
However, one judge said that the militants had entered the district in ‘large numbers’ and started setting up checkpoints at main roads and strategic positions…
Rasul Bakhsh Rais, professor of political science at Lahore University of Management Sciences, said the Taliban may have concluded from the Swat deal that authorities will cave in to violent demands for Islamic law elsewhere.
‘They have natural allies in the religious political parties in other parts of the country,’ he said.
Read this dispatch from Time about the rapid shari’a-ization of Buner and spreading panic in Islamabad. How bad is it? Roggio ups the freak-out ante:
The Taliban takeover of Haripur would put the Taliban on the doorstep of Islamabad and would also put two major nuclear facilities at risk.
Haripur borders the Margala Hills, a region in the Islamabad Capital Territory. Haripur also borders the Punjab districts of Attock and Rawalpindi.
Attock hosts two major nuclear facilities in Pakistan: the Wah Cantonment Ordnance Complex and the Kamra (Minhas) Airbase. The Wah Cantonment Ordnance Complex host three sites where nuclear weapons and components are stored and assembled and aircraft and missiles are modified for use in nuclear attacks. The nearby Kamra Airbase is thought to host attack aircraft capable of delivering nuclear weapons.
Rawalpindi is the “garrison” city for Pakistan’s military. The city hosts the headquarters of the Army and Air Force, and several nuclear weapons research facilities are also located there.
I remember reading last year somewhere that the Pentagon has emergency contingency plans to seize Pakistan’s nukes if things go haywire, but I’m naively hoping against hope that Zardari and the military leadership will voluntarily surrender them to keep them out of jihadi hands if they think they’re about to be overrun. Obama would have to guarantee Pakistan’s security against an Indian nuclear attack, though, and even then national pride might stop them from giving up the bomb — assuming, that is, that the leadership still has sufficient control over the military to get them to carry out an order like that. A horrifying possibility here is that there are Taliban sympathizers among the Pakistani troops safeguarding their nuclear arsenal. The more leverage the jihadis get, the greater the risk of defections.
Pakistan’s sent a few troops to Buner and Hillary’s begging them to redeploy more from the eastern border with India, but given past practices, I assume some sort of “treaty” is in the offing whereby the government cedes Buner in exchange for a, ahem, Taliban promise to stay out of Islamabad. The analogy, obviously, would be Lebanon, where the terrorist outfit that dominates the country keeps a secular government in place to handle the mundane civic business with which it can’t be bothered. (See also Robert Kaplan’s piece yesterday about why Palestinians don’t really want a state.) What it means in practice is a terrorist base in the heart of the country, a la the U.S.’s worst fears about Anbar circa 2006, except with better communications and infrastructure than the jihadis currently have in the tribal areas.
TNR’s already whispering about the prospect of The One having to send in bombers and special forces, presumably to get the nukes and then get out, but I’m wondering at what point India gets involved and how. They’re the ones who face the most immediate threat from a nuclear Taliban; if Islamabad is on the brink, they have to decide whether to invade and go for the kill before the jihadis have established themselves as a government or hold off and let the Pakistani military focus on the internal threat. And if they wait and the Taliban takes over anyway, what then? Can’t wait to see what time it is on the clock next issue.
Update: Another factor re: Indian invasion is that it would instantly transform a Pakistani civil war into a common cause against the Indian enemy under Taliban leadership, thereby bolstering jihadi authority. If they go for it, they’d better be absolutely sure they can win.










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relax AP, the adults are in charge now
gatorboy on April 23, 2009 at 4:34 PM
Yeah
BardMan on April 23, 2009 at 4:35 PM
It’s okay – the president can pronounce the name the way they like it.
It’s cool.
kybowexar on April 23, 2009 at 4:35 PM
all we have to do is play patty cake with the Al-Qaeda and they will do us no harm
jp on April 23, 2009 at 4:35 PM
Yeah I read this yesterday, told me wife about it, and she turned white as a ghost.
If SHE thinks it’s serious … it’s serious. She’s not a news junkie like I am … but she instantly knew what was at stake.
BardMan on April 23, 2009 at 4:36 PM
But Hillary says this isnt our business. /s
becki51758 on April 23, 2009 at 4:37 PM
Remember maybe 5-6 years ago, Pakistan and India were on the brink of a nuclear conflict? I’ve always thought if two countries went nuclear, it’d be those two.
lorien1973 on April 23, 2009 at 4:37 PM
I guess that All your children will be Muslim jerk was right.
Holy crap.
portlandon on April 23, 2009 at 4:38 PM
Trust Obama. What could possibly go wrong?
Right_of_Attila on April 23, 2009 at 4:38 PM
Great post, AP.
TexasDan on April 23, 2009 at 4:39 PM
Do they have missiles that can make it over here? Just wondering if we have to worry right away…or if we get a few weeks (the time it takes to float one this way)?
Youngs98 on April 23, 2009 at 4:39 PM
I foresee the day when the Sargeant At Arms takes out his pistol and asks “The One” to “stand down”. There is something not right here. God save us all. They don’t have a clue what they are doing. Hey, Soros…. what was your last order about this one, huh?
suzyk on April 23, 2009 at 4:40 PM
A good speach should take care of this. Time to role the teleprompter out.
koypop on April 23, 2009 at 4:40 PM
Heard about it earlier in the week. Already am in full freak out mode.
But hey, look, a puppy. And doesn’t Michelle have nicely toned arms?
rbj on April 23, 2009 at 4:40 PM
How long before Obama blames this on Bush? My guess is he’s working on polishing his old Iraq/diversion speech as we speak.
tommuck on April 23, 2009 at 4:41 PM
Dear Pock-eh-stahn:
All your nukes are belong to us.
Best,
The Tahl-eee-bahn
Kid from Brooklyn on April 23, 2009 at 4:41 PM
Yipes – all cracks on Obama aside.
THIS SUCKS !!!!
jake-the-goose on April 23, 2009 at 4:42 PM
Agreed. Especially appreciate the India component, since there aren’t many people talking about that right now. It’s their populations that are most immediately at risk.
Repurblican on April 23, 2009 at 4:42 PM
Why worry? President Obama is going to send troops in, like he said during the campaign.
Weebork on April 23, 2009 at 4:42 PM
I believe they have missiles capable of traveling 1200 miles, far enough to hit Iraq and Saudi Arabia. I don’t believe they can hit Israel. Yet.
BardMan on April 23, 2009 at 4:42 PM
I’m sitting here looking at a map…
can the indians get to those facilities? not quickly… they’re 200 miles from the border or so.
well, not in any numbers.
for that matter, do the indians have the special forces knowledge/equipment/etc. to carry off a smaller-profile mission?
(not rhetorical, i know nothing of the indian military. does anyone else?)
yeeeeeeeeegh.
jdub on April 23, 2009 at 4:42 PM
Distraction
ronsfi on April 23, 2009 at 4:43 PM
Except I don’t believe the pew polls.
http://people-press.org/report/509/obama-at-100-days
Dr Evil on April 23, 2009 at 4:43 PM
It’s inevitable. The mohammedans will have nukes, from both Pakistan and Iran. Of course, we’ll just sit back and have useless talks with them, but before then end of 2009, Israel will be nuked, and not long after that, so will NY, DC, and some other east coast port.
Game over because we forfeited in January.
stonemeister on April 23, 2009 at 4:43 PM
I am not worried about Pockeston. We have a president that is a ferocious fighter for freedom and the american way.
If only he could pronounce the name of the country like a real american and not like an elitist D-bag.
The Wall on April 23, 2009 at 4:44 PM
Showtime at the Apollo!
jimmy2shoes on April 23, 2009 at 4:44 PM
The majority of American probably don’t even know about it and half of those think this has nothing to do with us. I hope those people wake up real quick. The way the 0bama admin is dismanteling national security who knows what we will be able to do.
Brat4life on April 23, 2009 at 4:44 PM
Where’s ernesto telling us that we need to take away the money given to the Pakistani government/country just like he did with Israel this am? Come on, man. I’m more worried that Pakistan and India are going to nuke each other than with Israel playing hardball.
Man up, little man.
On Topic: Scary, scary scary. Pakistan has always been skirting the edge of all-out war with its neighbours, but this is beyond not a good development. Send Hillary in, see if she can escalate the war quicker.
mjk on April 23, 2009 at 4:45 PM
I stated this same thing way back when they were trying deal with 4 Somalis in a boat, how long ago was that? I stated the real problem is in the NW Pakistan Agencies, where the Pakistan Government just handed the area back to the Taliban.
this isn’t new news.
Dr Evil on April 23, 2009 at 4:45 PM
I hate to be an apocalyptic doom and gloomer, but with the state of politics and division in this country (and ineptitude at all levels world wide really) I see Pakistan as just another harbinger of what is to come. They will surely unravel and become an extreme danger. I foresee societal collapses and worldwide warfare in our not too distant future.
Goodeye_Closed on April 23, 2009 at 4:45 PM
Reread Ezekiel chapters 38 and 39. Israel will not be nuked.
jimmy2shoes on April 23, 2009 at 4:45 PM
Not to worry…The left will be sure that obambi bows very deeply, apologizes for American forces being in the way of AQ’s takeover, and will immediately recall all of our forces from around the world, and oh yeah, cut off the CIA And FBI pipelines, pull the covers over the USSA, and go nitey-night…..It is all in the hands of ….OMG……HEEEEELP!!!!!!!!
clinker46 on April 23, 2009 at 4:46 PM
http://sweetness-light.com/archive/obamas-disapproval-doubles-in-1-month
Dr Evil on April 23, 2009 at 4:46 PM
We must stop being a cowboy and engage them, these Taliban, in dialogue.
petefrt on April 23, 2009 at 4:47 PM
Send in Hillary with a RESET button. That’ll fix things right up.
Cicero43 on April 23, 2009 at 4:47 PM
Obama pronounces Pakistan correctly, so he should be able to remedy the escalation.
portlandon on April 23, 2009 at 4:48 PM
Don’t worry Allah, 75% of the sheeple like Obama so everything will be fine. He can do no wrong.
davek70 on April 23, 2009 at 4:48 PM
Thats just Great. That area is going to lead to WWIII.
Maybe we’ll get lucky and the taliban will accidently set one off and blow themselves up. (And take out Iran with them).
saiga on April 23, 2009 at 4:48 PM
This is disheartening. We all need something to cheer us up.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Vq6OncN6_Fo
The Wall on April 23, 2009 at 4:49 PM
In the summer the prevailing winds will drop the glowing dust on China. In Winter, SE Asia and Australia.
I hope, either way, we never find out if I’m right.
Limerick on April 23, 2009 at 4:49 PM
When Zia al-Huq and then Benazir Bhutto helped establish the Taliban as a measure to both stop Soviet-sponsored Marxists in Afghanistan from spilling over to Pakistan, and to have an arms-length force under their control to push India out of Kashmir, they never envisoned such to become a threat to their own nation. Looking the other way over the decades as the Taliban grew, and with the ISI permitted to run roughshod over Pakistan and Afghanistan didn’t help matters either. Both made a deal with the devil…and false hopes and a lot of promises. And a good bit of Saudi cash.
Musharaf, remember him, that evil nasty old military dictator just about everyone in America wanted to be toppled so Bhutto could take over? Well, Musharaf was the only recent Pakistani leader who tried to rein in both the ISI and Taliban, and both tried unsuccessfully to assassinate him.
Well, the world got what they wished for, Musharaf is no longer in charge.
And in the vacuum of the current appeasement government presently in Islamabad, the Taliban has control over Swat, and a few other minor regions, and is mobilizing the lower-classes against the excesses of the current regime, and all of those who ever supported Bhutto, or Musharaf, for that matter, the upper and middle classes, and intend to build a combined Taliban entity in a Taliban united Pak-Afghan nation.
Sad to say, but the current President of Afghanistan, Karsai, has long and deep connections to the Taliban. Family connections, as well, going back to Kandahar, where Karaai is from, the same Kandahar that is the seat of the Taliban in Afghanistan. If Karsai sees Pakistan falling apart, it won’t be long until he strikes a deal, or tries to strike a deal, with the Taliban. At that point, all our efforts in Afghanistan are moot.
As for the Pakistani nukes…it is all on the shoulders of General Ashfaq Pervez Kiyani, Pakistani Armed Forces Chief of Staff. There is no civilian control over the Pak nukes. They are in Kiyani’s hands, for now.
coldwarrior on April 23, 2009 at 4:49 PM
Meanwhile, somewhere sitting in a huge chair behind a antique desk, George Soros is maniacally laughing.
kingsjester on April 23, 2009 at 4:50 PM
http://www.rasmussenreports.com/public_content/politics/obama_administration/daily_presidential_tracking_poll
Dr Evil on April 23, 2009 at 4:50 PM
I am NOT happy about my son being sent there for work.
Bob's Kid on April 23, 2009 at 4:50 PM
I’m sure that the Pentagon has plans to seize Pakistan’s nukes, but does anyone really think that Pakistan stores them someplace with a will call pick up window?
Obama will let the Taliban keep the nukes because the low risk solution will be to destroy the nukes, but because that would harm the environment, he would not order their destruction.
rw on April 23, 2009 at 4:50 PM
Obama sez……. Can’t we all just get along, and be friends?
capejasmine on April 23, 2009 at 4:50 PM
Send over Sheriff Joe Biden to handle this.
WisCon on April 23, 2009 at 4:51 PM
Maybe we could trade GM for the nukes.
Limerick on April 23, 2009 at 4:51 PM
Israel will be nuked
Now, go reread it – Jerusalem will not be nuked – or at least the Temple is usable at the appointed time anyway.
kybowexar on April 23, 2009 at 4:51 PM
We’re doomed. Time to start drinking. Any recommendations?
changer1701 on April 23, 2009 at 4:51 PM
That’d be Sharif Yousef al-Biden. /s
coldwarrior on April 23, 2009 at 4:52 PM
In many ways – all the world’s wars get connected to that area in one way or another.
Six Steps to Ishmael
kybowexar on April 23, 2009 at 4:52 PM
I keep hoping someone on our team will form a mysterious paramilitary organization to do the dirty work American presidents don’t want to do. They go in, do what needs to be done, and the President gets to say he’s doing everything in his power to track down and punish these dastardly stateless actors.
A girl can dream, right?
Infidoll on April 23, 2009 at 4:55 PM
It’s funny AP posted this. I’ve been at work all day imagining the scenarious that go along with this. This is past freaking out time since they are already 60 miles or so outside Islamabad. There’s no good scenario that can come out of this. I’m an optimist but let’s be real.
youngO on April 23, 2009 at 4:55 PM
bad…very bad….prepare…PLEASE..
JJKRN on April 23, 2009 at 4:57 PM
Even so come quickly, Lord Jesus.
stenwin77 on April 23, 2009 at 4:57 PM
Hopefully our government has enough internal inertia built up to at least prevent a nuclear bomb from being driven into New York Harbor. I have family in Jersey and Buffalo…
India has a lot to think about. And G_d forgive me for saying this, but may the winds blow towards China and not SE Asia…
Asher on April 23, 2009 at 4:57 PM
This was the briefing Joe Biden got and then made the stupid comment about. “In the first 3 or 4 months, he’s going to be tested…and it won’t be immediately evident that we’re doing the right thing…blah blah blah.” There are plans….for us to swoop in and secure the weapons. We know where they are and how they’re stored etc based on a deal Bush made after Sept 11.
Bush saves the day and he’s not even president anymore….
Youngs98 on April 23, 2009 at 4:58 PM
Where is getalife to assure us that we have nothing to fear. After all, we have Obama, and he is the one we have all been waiting for.
RobertInLexington on April 23, 2009 at 4:58 PM
If Pakistan goes up then rest assured India WILL invade (maybe China too) to get the Pakistanian nukes out of the hands of the terrorists
Defector01 on April 23, 2009 at 4:59 PM
You know… it unnerves me that Allah is getting edgy.
About time you came around Allah.
upinak on April 23, 2009 at 4:59 PM
Hate to break it to you guys but we’re headed for some kind of serious conflict.
It could be this, or something else, but the worldwide economic conditions make it a pretty predictable prediction.
But hey, if your old enough to be reading this blog then you’ve enjoyed some of the best times available on the history of this planet.
We’ve had a good run.
Dorvillian on April 23, 2009 at 4:59 PM
Is there any reason to suspect that Al Queda hasn’t targeted the weakest link in the nuclear chain?
Hasn’t anybody with a brain understood that for the last few years survival has meant a race of who wins out first?
We kill of the Taliban and Al Queda or they nuke who we’re allied with and start a chain reaction the threatens all of the modern world.
Who wins in stone age western
civilizationtribal society?Speakup on April 23, 2009 at 4:59 PM
Everyone calm down.
The American people were assured by our news media during the campaign that the most important qualities in a Presidential candidate are as follows:
- Community organizing skills
- Hip coolness
- Chiseled abs
So what’s there to worry about?
rvastar on April 23, 2009 at 5:00 PM
Guess I should build a bunker. But I am going to go to the top of this mountain if in Anchorage, or over by this old run down satilite in Talkeetna as they are both “proofed” against items like this. Good thing I have been stocking up food and other items.
upinak on April 23, 2009 at 5:00 PM
Whomever has the most guns of course! I’m out…headed to the gun store.
Youngs98 on April 23, 2009 at 5:01 PM
Sounds like someone’s getting emboldened…
RepubChica on April 23, 2009 at 5:02 PM
Jameson always works for me.
rvastar on April 23, 2009 at 5:02 PM
Obama – the wrong man, at the wrong time.
You think the left will still be unhinged about waterboading
when Pakistian & India are glowing with radioactive fallout???
All this is going on and Obama is worried about the interest rate
credit card companies are charging. To bad he has dissed the CIA.
They might have been able to help in this situation.
izoneguy on April 23, 2009 at 5:02 PM
don’t rub it in. You know how sensitive he gets.
upinak on April 23, 2009 at 5:02 PM
But, but, but…
What about the “moderate Taliban” that I’ve been hearing so much about lately???
Abby Adams on April 23, 2009 at 5:02 PM
There is no problem…Obama has already promised a “change” and respect for each other around the world.
The Taliban will not do anything to harm America’s interest, Obama will just meet with them and resolve whatever problem they have.
In fact, take the rest of the day off…be thankful you have a job…and thank Obama for that job.
right2bright on April 23, 2009 at 5:03 PM
Why would India not just conduct a first strike with its own nukes. It sounds as if they only have 3 groups of targets to hit. If the Taliban takes over there will be chaos at some point during the transition. That is when India will be in danger and it would also be the best time for them to strike.
One side or the other is going to get it if Pakistan collapses.
A first strike should be much more difficult than US versus USSR during the cold war because Pak and India are sitting practically on top of each other.
gh on April 23, 2009 at 5:05 PM
Well, it’s not like we didn’t see this coming.
AnninCA on April 23, 2009 at 5:05 PM
You’re lack of faith is disturbing…time for you to be educated.
Didn’t you listen to anything Obama said…he will meet with leaders around the world and resolve these issues.
Oh ye man of little faith…
Besides the Taliban is not threat to us…the dems have been telling us that for years.
right2bright on April 23, 2009 at 5:06 PM
to defend against
doh
gh on April 23, 2009 at 5:06 PM
Wow, this both sucks and blows at the same time.
I sense world events are about to rapidly spin out of control, and Obama is about as ill-equipped to deal with it as you will find.
The Talibastards cannot be allowed to get control of Pakistan’s nukes.
-Dave
Dave R. on April 23, 2009 at 5:06 PM
Don’t worry, everybody. The messiah is on the case with his sidekick, Billary. What could go wrong?
/S
HornetSting on April 23, 2009 at 5:07 PM
Gird your loins.
ihasurnominashun on April 23, 2009 at 5:09 PM
We dispatched a drone in the Whitehouse. Why not send some drones over there. Drop some Obama audacity of Hope books.
seven on April 23, 2009 at 5:09 PM
Good comment.
And to Allah, thanks for this post. I have nothing original to add other than I too see the extreme significance of this. The convergence of today’s economic, political, social, and geopolitical forces would be bad enough with a competent president and congress. I don’t know how we survive the storm with our current leadership.
flyfisher on April 23, 2009 at 5:10 PM
The only thing that will wake Americans up is an American city being destroyed by a nuke. That’s it.
Tabris on April 23, 2009 at 5:10 PM
Over the next 10-20 years, we Westerners are going to get a brutal education in what happens to civilizations that turn over control of their cultures to academics and idealists.
rvastar on April 23, 2009 at 5:12 PM
damm….what a time to be a sober alcoholic….shit….
love and light
JJKRN on April 23, 2009 at 5:13 PM
That’s what I’ve read, too. So they can hit India, Saudi Arabia, and of course all our guys in Afghanistan. And developing a longer-range missile is the easier part of the technology, no?
ProfessorMiao on April 23, 2009 at 5:13 PM
Don’t worry………..
………. this is a Law Enforcement issue. I am sure Mr. Pantywaist is in the Oval Office surrounded by a dozen lawyers.
Each one telling him what he can and can not do while racking up the billable hours………..
…….. there are no bad guys to confront in this world, only the Bush Administration to put on trial.
Seven Percent Solution on April 23, 2009 at 5:14 PM
Oh, the bitter irony. Dean Acheson was a liberal. :-)
coldwarrior on April 23, 2009 at 5:14 PM
Israel will not be nuked. It is protected. Other western countries are not. Including us. But if we are, the left had better hide from the right in this country. Because civil war could erupt. Plus I wouldn’t give a plugged nickel for the lives of Democratic leaders should it happen. They should intermediately find a rock to hide their ass under it if it does.
G. on April 23, 2009 at 5:14 PM
Or they could wait and see if Islamabad falls, then launch a nuclear first strike before the Islamists have time to figure out how to use Pakistan’s own nukes. (A recent, infamous Rahm Emmanuel quote springs to mind.)
At any rate, I can’t help but imagine that a C-17 landing and getting loaded up with all of Pakistan’s warheads all nicely crated up for safekeeping is anything but a pipe dream.
Blacklake on April 23, 2009 at 5:15 PM
It’s worse than that.
RushBaby on April 23, 2009 at 5:16 PM
With this going on – Obama will show up at work in Oval at 9:00 instead of 9:30. Pretty boy. No substance and a loser with a HUGE “L” on his forehead. He rode the short bus to school in whatever country he went to school in.
suzyk on April 23, 2009 at 5:16 PM
India got help from Israel. There’s some mutual interested in this.
the_nile on April 23, 2009 at 5:19 PM
It’s now two questions.
1) Does the military have plans to seize and secure the nukes.
2) Does Obama have the b@lls to order step 1?
MarkTheGreat on April 23, 2009 at 5:19 PM
Obama said during the campaign that he would invade Pockeeston to get Bin Laden, and Hillary Clinton called him “dangerous and naive” at the time. Meanwhile, George W. Bush supported the Musharraf government, and was taking out terrorists with drone attacks in the tribal areas.
Time for Obama to gird his loins, unless Jasse Jackson got there first. Does he have the cojones to handle something like this?
Estimated 2008 population of Pakistan: 172.8 million
Estimated 2008 population of India: 1,148 million
With that many people to protect, India would probably not want to risk the Taliban getting the nukes. Probably nobody in the MSM noticed, but in 2007 and 2008 President Bush was developing much closer military ties to India. Remarkable foresight and strategery from the “dumb cowboy”.
Besides the US invading to secure the nukes, or India invaiding to secure the nukes, there might be a third option, if the Great O-rator wants to test his talking skills. Arrange a summit with the leaders of Pakistan and India to try to work out a nuclear defense pact for Pakistan, where Pakistani, American, and Indian troops would be deployed around the nuke sites, with the understanding that the foreign troops would only fight if the Taliban tried to attack the nuke sites.
Probably worth a try, and better than the alternatives.
Steve Z on April 23, 2009 at 5:19 PM
Well….if we had not propped up Musharref and backed the supercorrupt Bhuto mafia family and dissed Afghanistan in favor of GW and the neocon clown posse’s Grand Misadventure of the Manifest Destiny of Judeochristian Democracy in Iraq….we might not be in such a pickle.
Maybe Michael Ledeen and VDH can give us some advice.
;)
strangelet on April 23, 2009 at 5:19 PM
During whose Presidency did India and Pakistan get or develop their nukes?
SlimyBill on April 23, 2009 at 5:20 PM
You don’t understand…It would be Bush’s fault, because he made so many enemies. We “tortured” them, that made them angry, we wouldn’t talk with them, that made them isolated…these poor guys were angry and isolated, it was all Bush’s fault…and that’s the way the tale will be told.
right2bright on April 23, 2009 at 5:20 PM
We get a few weeks (or at least as long as it takes to load a couple of long-range transport aircraft and fly them in). Our forces in Afghanistan, and India (the original target of the Pakistani nuclear arsenal)…not so much.
steveegg on April 23, 2009 at 5:20 PM
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