Rice approved waterboarding

posted at 10:54 am on April 23, 2009 by Ed Morrissey

As more documents come out about enhanced interrogations, we are getting a clearer picture of the steps taken to implement them.  One surprising revelation came yesterday, when the declassification of Senate Intelligence Committee documents showed former National Security Adviser Condoleezza Rice in the command chain for approval.  It puts the decision even further in the White House, joining then-Attorney General John Ashcroft and then-White House counsel Alberto Gonzales (via Baldilocks):

Then-national security adviser Condoleezza Rice verbally OK’d the CIA’s request to subject alleged al-Qaida terrorist Abu Zubaydah to waterboarding in July 2002, a decision memorialized a few days later in a secret memo that the Obama administration declassified last week.

Rice’s role was detailed in a narrative released Wednesday by the Senate Intelligence Committee. It provides the most detailed timeline yet for how the CIA’s harsh interrogation program was conceived and approved at the highest levels in the Bush White House.

The new timeline shows that Rice played a greater role than she admitted last fall in written testimony to the Senate Armed Services Committee.

Rice may not have occupied an organizationally higher spot in the White House than Ashcroft or Gonzales, but she’s been known as one of George Bush’s closest advisers ever since he took office.  If one was tempted to make a compartmentalization defense for Bush in case of a prosecution, having Rice in the loop giving her blessing would make that more difficult.  It seems very unlikely that she would have given her approval without at least briefing Bush.

However, that’s really a moot point.  Dick Cheney has all but burst into song with his defense of these interrogations, and a VP has no authority other than that which a President explicitly gives him.  If Cheney was in the loop, and McClatchy reports that Cheney signed off as well, then obviously Bush was as well.  Cheney hasn’t been shy about it since the revelations in 2005 about waterboarding.

Rice’s involvement is more a historical footnote than a scandal explosion, but it’s an interesting historical footnote nonetheless.  She has been reticent to get involved in politics since leaving the State Department at the end of the Bush administration.  I suspect she’ll have to get back into the game to defend herself and the interrogations, even if she does it reluctantly.

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And Pelosi, and Reid… where do we want to stop?

gatorboy on April 23, 2009 at 10:55 AM

Pelosi to the tumbril!

Realist on April 23, 2009 at 10:56 AM

I am glad we know who to thank for saving the country, then. Good Job Rice, Cheney. And, uh, good job Pelosi and Congress for KNOWING it was going on (hypocritical unAmerican twits that they are).

Warner Todd Huston on April 23, 2009 at 10:57 AM

Thank you, Secretary Rice, for backing something necessary to the national security of the United States of America.

calabrese on April 23, 2009 at 10:57 AM

I would hope she was for it.

kybowexar on April 23, 2009 at 10:59 AM

How much I miss Secretary Rice.

deidre on April 23, 2009 at 10:59 AM

deidre on April 23, 2009 at 10:59 AM

Not very much.

lorien1973 on April 23, 2009 at 11:00 AM

I see no reason to find fault with chain of command approval. That’s the way it’s supposed to be done. If the donks want to set that particular house on fire, we’ll see who comes out unsinged. I assume Bubba’s ‘renditions” will also be considered fair game?

a capella on April 23, 2009 at 11:02 AM

You know rice voted for Obama, right?

marklmail on April 23, 2009 at 11:03 AM

Thank God for Rice, Cheney, Ashcroft and the rest. Rice has more sense that the present occupant of that office(although she was not in it at the time. Makes you long for the good old days when America was getting safer. At least they cared enough to keep us safe. The present crowd actively seeks our destruction.

BetseyRoss on April 23, 2009 at 11:04 AM

What about Obama’s favorite “Republican” Colin Powell?What did he know and when did he know it?

sandee on April 23, 2009 at 11:05 AM

Good for her.

Oh, wait, am I supposed to be ashamed?

XWing5 on April 23, 2009 at 11:06 AM

See this is why these investigations don’t bother me to much. O’reilly is thinking the same thing on his show. If these investigations go forward they will penetrate deep into the white house. Of course Cheny and Ashcroft will be implicated, that is a given. Rice is a bit of a surprise but it makes sense and you better bet that it wall end up with the former President himself, George W Bush. No small fish Scooter Libbys here. But since they were doing NOTHING wrong and the majority of Americans support these tactics all of them should fight back against these smears. We are not some banana republic where the successor persecutes the predecessor and if Obama really wants to take us there, he is done. Bow to King Abdullah and play patty cake with Chavez, but throw Americans in jail; it’s the Obama doctrine.

Daemonocracy on April 23, 2009 at 11:07 AM

I’m starting to like the idea of trying everyone who knew about waterboarding. Most of the Republicans are already out of power, and I’d love to see Pelosi in an orange jumpsuit.

Beagle on April 23, 2009 at 11:07 AM

Obama has to do this…his popularity is dropping like a rock, his appointments are a mess, his decisions are poorly thought out, his “change” in foreign policy is a disaster.
The only thing he can do is divert the attention from him, to Bush.
He has to go back to his only real salvation…the leftist liberals.
This is an act of desperation…and desperate acts, from presidents, are always a disaster.
Carter trying to free the captives, Kennedy Bay of Pigs, Bush with “read my lips”, Clinton desperately trying to convince us “I did not….”, Bush desperately trying to end the war before it was over, or trying to appease a liberal congress, Obama with the bail outs, and now “torture”.
Desperate decisions by presidents have never helped the U.S. You can’t run the U.S. by trying to save face and hide from your mistakes.
Obama is trying to hide from his horrendous first 100 days…the worst in the history of any U.S. President.

right2bright on April 23, 2009 at 11:08 AM

Bravo, Ms Rice. Be careful everyone, Obama is attempting to create another diversion away from his ongoing and massive rape of the U.S. treasury.

rplat on April 23, 2009 at 11:09 AM

Sending a confidante to Foggy Bottom to hold the line demonstrated weakness for Bush and unfortunately, Rice didn’t hold the fort for him.

promachus on April 23, 2009 at 11:09 AM

She was more of a SOS than Hillary will ever be. Tougher too.

Hillary feels that the fact that the taliban is close to Pakistan’s nukes is “their business.”

umm..shouldnt she be coming down hard on the Pres. of Pakistan to stop their police from running away.

becki51758 on April 23, 2009 at 11:10 AM

I never thought Rice was a particularly strong SOS, but know I will question my old thoughts.

Thank you Madam Secretary.

jake-the-goose on April 23, 2009 at 11:10 AM

Good decision, Sec. Rice! Nobody asked me, but I’d have approved waterboarding, too. I mean, I don’t want to disrepect our Muslim friends by insluting their bravery and toughness!

hawksruleva on April 23, 2009 at 11:10 AM

Not very much.

lorien1973 on April 23, 2009 at 11:00 AM

The present SOS makes Dr. Rice look like gold. BTW, Rice approved the waterboarding as National Security Adviser, a postion for which she was far better suited, IMO.

The spectacle of the first black AG prosecuting the first black NSA/second black SOS at the behest of the first black POTUS will set the identity politicians to furiously spinning. And if Rice did vote for Obama, that will make things all the more ironic.

baldilocks on April 23, 2009 at 11:10 AM

or insulting, even. But insluting looks like an interesting word, too ;-)

hawksruleva on April 23, 2009 at 11:10 AM

YOU GO, GIRL!

madmonkphotog on April 23, 2009 at 11:11 AM

I look forward to her trial, and Cheney’s too. Both are quite capable of mounting a vigorous defense, and the effort will further weaken Obama and congressional democrats.

funky chicken on April 23, 2009 at 11:12 AM

Good on all those folks that approved it. It made our people safer, and for that I am grateful.

Bob's Kid on April 23, 2009 at 11:12 AM

Well, well well Condi Rice has the stones to DO WHAT it TAKES to keep America SAFE….

Madame President?

originalpechanga on April 23, 2009 at 11:13 AM

And if Rice did vote for Obama, that will make things all the more ironic.

baldilocks on April 23, 2009 at 11:10 AM

Heh.

a capella on April 23, 2009 at 11:15 AM

Ah yes. Transparency for thee but not for the royal we.

This government has gone from disappointing to vile in record time.

hillbillyjim on April 23, 2009 at 11:16 AM

So now the Dems are being racist again. Good for Rice. Shows she was a splendid selection.

seven on April 23, 2009 at 11:17 AM

If Leftists were really concerned about law breaking, why aren’t they screeching about all the “ILLEGALS” crossing our borders!? Next time one of these sanctimonious bleeding hearts rants about waterboarding and illegality, ask them why they’re falling all over themselves in support border crossings. Call them on their hypocrisy.

SoldiersMom on April 23, 2009 at 11:18 AM

Bush would never do this, but if he came out and said, “Yes I approved the measure, a President should always know what is going on within the Executive Branch, and not only did I approve waterboarding, but it worked and saved American lives.”

smfoushee on April 23, 2009 at 11:18 AM

Thank you Condi, job well done.

THE CHOSEN ONE on April 23, 2009 at 11:19 AM

I agree, this is nothing more than the circus coming to town.
They will trot out everyone from the Bush administration, ask their “questions” in these hearings in a way that is nothing more than a speech to vilify Bush and Republicans and then say that while they think that what the previous administration did was reprehensible, there will be no prosecutions.

POS Dems and Libs.

Jvette on April 23, 2009 at 11:20 AM

Obama has to do this…his popularity is dropping like a rock, his appointments are a mess, his decisions are poorly thought out, his “change” in foreign policy is a disaster.

right2bright on April 23, 2009 at 11:08 AM

So Obama wants to burn down the house to keep his popularity high. This guy is
as shallow as a dried up creek bed. Obama can now be called “The master of disaster” – or how I took down the Federal government in less than 100 days and three easy steps.

izoneguy on April 23, 2009 at 11:21 AM

Bush would never do this, but if he came out and said, “Yes I approved the measure, a President should always know what is going on within the Executive Branch, and not only did I approve waterboarding, but it worked and saved American lives.”

smfoushee on April 23, 2009 at 11:18 AM

Bush is writing a book – Obama just helped him write the next chapter.

izoneguy on April 23, 2009 at 11:22 AM

The Dems had better watch out. President Bush, besides keeping us safe, is a TANG veteran. Most of us who have been there, done that didn’t swallow that crap Rather was pushing. Going after another veteran may just pi$$ off a few of us and we were in DC before under the banner of the Gathering of Eagles in 2007 when the anti-American Left did their thing. The unintended consequences may be more than the Dems could ever imagine.

amr on April 23, 2009 at 11:23 AM

Yup, they are in CYA mode.

getalife on April 23, 2009 at 11:23 AM

Colin Powell seems to be silent about all this.
But then he endorsed Obama so he is immune to any actions. :-)

albill on April 23, 2009 at 11:24 AM

baldilocks on April 23, 2009 at 11:10 AM

I have said the same thing about Dr. Rice as Nat. Sec. Adv. I don’t think it is an accident she’s not crazy about politics and SOS is all politics. I can’t imagine the road blocks she ran into at every possible turn.

Cindy Munford on April 23, 2009 at 11:24 AM

I’m not in favour of waterboarding as a form of interrogation. I think it can be more problematic than helpful.

That said, if they waterboarded as a form of punishment for what they did… eh, I’ll let it slide.

YYZ on April 23, 2009 at 11:26 AM

Today, so far, we’ve had no stories on TARP, porkulous, GM’s pending bankruptcy…… Distracted yet?

Vince on April 23, 2009 at 11:26 AM

Good for her.

We need to do more.

blatantblue on April 23, 2009 at 11:26 AM

Thank you Rice, Cheney, and Bush for protecting us. We now have a pantywaist in chief…God help us!

trs on April 23, 2009 at 11:28 AM

I wondered why dick did not retire to his ranch to shoot more lawyers in the face like he said. He set up an office in DC to fight his torture actions and other illegal acts that will come out.

The dems will keep this going because the last administration is polling so poorly.

Especially dick.

Also, it is a great distraction.

getalife on April 23, 2009 at 11:29 AM

Well, good, I’m glad Sec. Rice approved of it.. Makes me feel a little bit warmer to her.

MNDavenotPC on April 23, 2009 at 11:29 AM

I challenge anyone who cries in the face this supposed “torture”, to seek out those who have seen it demonstrated, or perhaps ask to see it demonstrated themselves, so they can see what truly goes on when it happens. There are so many rules governing the use of these so-called “harsh” interrogation techniques, the people who cry foul should really get the facts, before they open their mouths.

Either that, or come out and say they believe that the attack on Los Angeles (and any future attacks) should have been allowed to go forward. Because that’s what this comes down to.

Leftists love to believe their politeness would make them immune from an attack, and makes the country ultimately safer. That kind of mindset begs the question: If their loved one was about to be killed by someone who could have been stopped with intel obtained via waterboarding….Would they approve of the waterboarding to save their loved one? Or, would their conscience be clearer, and would they enjoy the insurance money all the more, knowing the attacker was treated “humanely” before they slaughtered their loved one?

I dare anyone who opposes waterboarding and labels everything “torture” to truthfully answer those questions.

Talismen on April 23, 2009 at 11:29 AM

And this makes me love her all the more!

youngO on April 23, 2009 at 11:29 AM

Condoleeza Rice puts Hillary to shame as Secretary of State. Rice also would make a far better, more experienced, president than the teleprompter-in-chief currently in the White House.

One’s a professional, skilled in foreign relations, speaks fluent Russianm and a former provost of Stanford University, one of the U.S. elite universities. The other taught law courses at the University of Chicago, but was not a tenured professor, much less the provost.

Condoleeza Rice vs Walter Mitty. Which would you choose?

jdflorida on April 23, 2009 at 11:30 AM

Ed, you do make this sound like a bad thing that she was involved. I’m starting to wonder about you man, are you going girlie-man on us?

youngO on April 23, 2009 at 11:30 AM

getalife on April 23, 2009 at 11:29 AM

Is there a way we could put up a sign next to his/her/its posts?

Something like “‘Ware there be no thought here – Troll Bridge”

kybowexar on April 23, 2009 at 11:30 AM

Wouldn’t it be sweet if Bush were to just come out and give a speech and say, “The order to waterboard high-value detainees came from me. I did it to save American lives. It worked, and I don’t regret it. President Obama, if you want to prosecute me, you know where to find me.”

This would put an end to all the game playing and posturing by team Obama and make him decide if he wants to drag the country down this road. My guess is that he would blink and back down. We can make waterboarding illegal now if we want, but it was a gray area at the time and Bush decided to act aggressively rather than timidly. I think most of the country gives him the benefit of the doubt on this issue.

JohnInCA on April 23, 2009 at 11:31 AM

Good for her,. She showed some guts. A lot more than the democrat leaders like Pelosi, Ried, Leahey, Kennedy etc who knew and approved of it, only to have brain cramps and forget their approval.

Amazed on April 23, 2009 at 11:32 AM

WHAT ABOUT THE CATERILLARS!!?? WHO APPROVED ITS USE!!??

That’s what I want to know.

It’s a good thing we didn’t have to resort to it./sarc

shick on April 23, 2009 at 11:32 AM

caterillars=caterpillars.

Caterillars are even more dangerous than caterpillars.

Big difference.

Sorry.

shick on April 23, 2009 at 11:34 AM

Yes, the current administration is in CYA mode. Now that it’s “Blame Bush” time again, many things 0bama and his cronies will go unnoticed by the media (as if they would ever report it anyway). It’s always nice for an administration to have the media on it’s side and 0bama has had them in his pocket for some time.

Torch on April 23, 2009 at 11:34 AM

The dems will keep this going because the last administration is polling so poorly.

Especially dick.

Also, it is a great distraction.

getalife on April 23, 2009 at 11:29 AM

Yes! Excellent! I hope they keep it going too! Senior democrats knew all about the interrogations and gave their approvals. I want Holder to investigate and bring it all out into the open. Who knew, what they said, the interrogations, the results, lives saved … everything.

Just what did Nancy know? Inquiring minds want to know.

darwin on April 23, 2009 at 11:35 AM

If you support torture, you should move to a country that does.

America does not.

getalife on April 23, 2009 at 11:35 AM

Look at this rationally. The CIA asked for permission to waterboard a specific person. If we were truly blood thirsty and evil, we would be “torturing” everyone we got our hands on, but we didn’t.

Why?

Maybe we’re not bloodthirsty and maybe there’s damn good reason to use EIT’s on certain detainees.

Nat Hound on April 23, 2009 at 11:35 AM

58% Say Release of CIA Memos Endangers National Security latest poll from Rasmussen. Also poll shows low support for investigations:

Only 28% of U.S. voters think the Obama administration should do any further investigating of how the Bush administration treated terrorism suspects.

This was a debacle for Obama.

msmveritas on April 23, 2009 at 11:36 AM

Ed, it must be killing yo to be on the same side of an argument as getalife.

BigD on April 23, 2009 at 11:36 AM

Members of the Senate Select Committee on Intelligence 2003-2004:

Republicans

Pat Roberts,
Kansas
Chairman

Orrin G. Hatch, Utah
Mike DeWine, Ohio
Christopher S. Bond, Missouri
Trent Lott, Mississippi
Olympia J. Snowe, Maine
Saxby Chambliss, Georgia
John Warner, Virginia

Democrats
John D. Rockefeller IV,
West Virginia, Vice Chairman

Barbara Mikulski, Maryland
John Edwards, North Carolina
Evan Bayh, Indiana
Richard Durbin, Illinois
Ron Wyden, Oregon
Dianne Feinstein, California
Carl Levin, Michigan
Chuck Hagel, Nebraska :o)

I’m guessing they all knew, and approved of the techniques.

By the way, good riddance Chuck, we won’t miss you here in Nebraska

cntrlfrk on April 23, 2009 at 11:36 AM

The dems will keep this going because the last administration is polling so poorly.

Especially dick.

Also, it is a great distraction.

getalife on April 23, 2009 at 11:29 AM

You are the poster-child for Trolls.

shick on April 23, 2009 at 11:37 AM

shick on April 23, 2009 at 11:34 AM

Butchering Islamic radicals are terrified of caterillars. I understand the Geneva Conventions specify that only caterpillars may be used as a coercion technique

darwin on April 23, 2009 at 11:37 AM

This was a debacle for Obama.

msmveritas on April 23, 2009 at 11:36 AM

It’s too early.

Check back in a couple weeks after significant water-carrying by the media, those numbers will flip-flop quicker than Obama without a teleprompter.

cntrlfrk on April 23, 2009 at 11:38 AM

If you support torture, you should move to a country that does.

America does not.

getalife on April 23, 2009 at 11:35 AM

So, getalife, what country are you in?

Cause your posts are about as tortuous as they get.

kybowexar on April 23, 2009 at 11:38 AM

Good. I didn’t think she had it in her. Nice to know the 1st term Rice was who I thought she was. The 2nd term, not so much.

Sue on April 23, 2009 at 11:39 AM

If you support torture, you should move to a country that does.

America does not.

getalife on April 23, 2009 at 11:35 AM

Does this mean Bubba Clinton has to move? Or, is torture(the REAL kind)O.K, when done in Egypt on prisoners we send them?

a capella on April 23, 2009 at 11:39 AM

Talismen on April 23, 2009 at 11:29 AM

Good comment, but I hope most of you know that right and wrong have no bearing on any part of the Obama Administration, so debating that is pointless. Oh wait, I forgot: they are always right and we are always wrong.

baldilocks on April 23, 2009 at 11:39 AM

SO WHAT?

Congress knew.

Harman knew. Pelosi knew. Graham knew. Rockefeller knew.

It worked. It may have saved Los Angeles.

Especially irritating is the effort to rewrite history and brand this as “torture” when no such definition existed at the time.

drjohn on April 23, 2009 at 11:39 AM

This was a debacle for Obama.

msmveritas on April 23, 2009 at 11:36 AM

Absolutely. He can not unring this bell. I only hope the RNC keeps it alive and kicking.

sherry on April 23, 2009 at 11:39 AM

So when the trials start and various documents show that the demorats were as deeply involved with approving torture as the Bush admin, will they then declare that Bush must have “tricked them” as he did with the wars?

Either they will by lying or they are the stupidest people on earth, managing to get bested by the President McDummyChimpyBurtonFascistNaziTool.

Bishop on April 23, 2009 at 11:39 AM

This is good. I wonder what would happen if we saw images of Condi being shackled and sent to prison on the same day they release the terrorists from Gitmo?

faraway on April 23, 2009 at 11:40 AM

Thank God for Rice, Cheney, Ashcroft and the rest. Rice has more sense that the present occupant of that office(although she was not in it at the time. Makes you long for the good old days when America was getting safer. At least they cared enough to keep us safe. The present crowd actively seeks our destruction.

BetseyRoss on April 23, 2009 at 11:04 AM

More to the point, the present crowd doesn’t think we’re in serious danger of destruction, and they have retroactively convinced themselves we never were. There’s a reason the collapse of the World Trade Center occurs on a blacked-out screen in “Farenheit 9/11.” There was also a certain method to all the 9/11 conspiracy idiocy that flooded the zone over the last few years, and even seeped dangerously into mainstream culture. The guiding hands behind socialism and the Democrat Party are not stupid enough to believe what Rosie O’Donnell believes, but they do find it useful to have her out there, billowing out clouds of smog and muddying the issue. When it comes to what happened on 9/11, or what happened in Saddam’s Iraq, or what is happening in Pakistan or Iran right now, the Left will settle for “Who knows?”

If we get attacked again, all of this hand-wringing about interrogation and pre-war intelligence will disappear with blinding speed. Liberalism is defined by its cowardice, in large ways and small. The people thirsting for Bush blood today spent the latter months of 2001 hiding under their desks, stocking up on Cipro, and writing op-eds confessing their relief that Al Gore wasn’t in the White House. After twenty years of asserting that all men are sexist primates unless they receive the proper gender sensitivity training at sexual harassment seminars, they were suddenly writing poetry about how sexy those courageous firefighters and tough soldiers were. The day after a dirty bomb goes off in Los Angeles, Maureen Dowd will write a column about how dirty she feels after spending all night hoping the CIA is waterboarding somebody to prevent the next attack. Nancy Pelosi will give a tearful speech about how important it is to authorize any means necessary to protect our children. Barack Obama will authorize coercive interrogation without a moment’s hesitation, and be hailed as a hero by the nightly news anchors.

Liberals are notoriously unwilling to suffer for their beliefs. The people who tell you to give up your car in order to save the planet will not even consider cutting back on their limos and private jets. The people who tell you to sit in the dark on Earth Day are happy to leave a million watts of electric lighting blazing on their landscaping. They have no intention of suffering through the health care system they want to impose on you, they expect you to sacrifice everything to the government but they take charitable donations on their used underwear, and they poke their heads out from behind armed bodyguards to lecture you on why you have no right to carry a gun.

They’re not going to die, or risk losing an election, because of their exquisite sensitivity to the rights of terrorists. They’ll only indulge that sensitivity when their enemy is Republicans, and the weapons of mass destruction are lawyers. They only like to do battle with opponents they can silence with accusations of racism and greed, and who threaten them with modest reductions in the top marginal tax rates. Confronted with an enemy that doesn’t want to hear anything they have to say, and threatens them with guns and bombs, liberals will do what they always do: find a Republican to hide behind, and figure out how to sue him for protecting them later.

Doctor Zero on April 23, 2009 at 11:40 AM

If you support torture, you should move to a country that does.

America does not.

getalife on April 23, 2009 at 11:35 AM

Reading your rants is torture. Please move to another blog that supports torture.

shick on April 23, 2009 at 11:40 AM

getalife is an “enhanced interrogation technique”.

faraway on April 23, 2009 at 11:42 AM

If you support torture, you should move to a country that does.

America does not.

getalife on April 23, 2009 at 11:35 AM

Hahahahaha … read any polls lately? The left is desperate to say that Americans would sacrifice their own lives instead of being mean to a head sawing butcher.

desperate …

Hahahahahaha

“By gosh we lost LA and Houston with 200,000 dead but darn it, at least we were nice to Mr. Mohammed”

Hey getalife … see your two index fingers? Stick them in your ears, then start singing La la la la la la.

Hahahahahahahaha

darwin on April 23, 2009 at 11:42 AM

drjohn on April 23, 2009 at 11:39 AM

We were posting at the same time. The rule again: they are always right and we are always wrong. Even when they are saying the same thing that we are.

baldilocks on April 23, 2009 at 11:42 AM

Ooo, waterboarding is sooo terrible. Why, it SCARES the poor widdle terrorists. For shaaaaame.

Yeesh. Bravo, Ms. Rice.

MBuck on April 23, 2009 at 11:43 AM

getalife on April 23, 2009 at 11:35 AM
Reading your rants is torture. Please move to another blog that supports torture.

shick on April 23, 2009 at 11:40 AM

+1000

youngO on April 23, 2009 at 11:43 AM

Trolls torture logic. There has to be something in the Geneva Conventions about that.

baldilocks on April 23, 2009 at 11:44 AM

baldilocks on April 23, 2009 at 11:39 AM

True…sadly.

Talismen on April 23, 2009 at 11:45 AM

Thank you, Condi, for helping to keep us safe! Beck’s take on torture is absolutely right. If it had become public knowledge in 2002 that waterboarding was the worst thing we were doing to terrorists, there would have been an outcry to do more!

Christian Conservative on April 23, 2009 at 11:45 AM

That’s why I love ‘er.

rivlax on April 23, 2009 at 11:47 AM

She said she attended the meetings but did not remember the details. Yeah right.

Lawmakers: Congress Will Investigate Torture, Bipartisan Support In Place

They will cover their asses and vote for amnesty like illegal spying on Americans but McCain said it was “unacceptable” so he should lead on this issue.

getalife on April 23, 2009 at 11:47 AM

This is torture:

- Listening to Obama speak without TOTUS
- Killing getalife’s strawmen
- Listening to Perez Hilton lecture about morality
- Waiting til 2012

faraway on April 23, 2009 at 11:49 AM

Reading your rants is torture. Please move to another blog that supports torture.
shick on April 23, 2009 at 11:40 AM

Just like countries refusing to accept “freedom fighters” imprisoned at Gitmo, no one else wants to take getaclue either. I’m afraid we are stuck with him until his frito addiction finally frees him from this earthly coil.

Bishop on April 23, 2009 at 11:49 AM

We’re all Riceists.

the_nile on April 23, 2009 at 11:50 AM

Obama is insane if he allows anyone from the CIA or the Bush Administration to be prosecuted. His Presidency would effectively be over at that point. No Republican(and quite a few Dems) would ever support any of his legislation. And if he thought the Tea Parties were well-attended before, just imagine the protests that will be held ad nauseum through 2012.

Doughboy on April 23, 2009 at 11:51 AM

Doctor Zero on April 23, 2009 at 11:40 AM

Once again, a round of applause for your insight and perspective. Great post.

sherry on April 23, 2009 at 11:51 AM

Confronted with an enemy that doesn’t want to hear anything they have to say, and threatens them with guns and bombs, liberals will do what they always do: find a Republican to hide behind, and figure out how to sue him for protecting them later.

Doctor Zero on April 23, 2009 at 11:40 AM

Oooh, that’s gonna leave a mark.

TheUnrepentantGeek on April 23, 2009 at 11:53 AM

We’re all Riceists.
the_nile on April 23, 2009 at 11:50 AM

That is vaguely racist.

Racist riceists…is that even possible?

Bishop on April 23, 2009 at 11:54 AM

FOR seven years I have remained silent about the false claims magnifying the effectiveness of the so-called enhanced interrogation techniques like waterboarding. I have spoken only in closed government hearings, as these matters were classified. But the release last week of four Justice Department memos on interrogations allows me to shed light on the story, and on some of the lessons to be learned.

http://www.nytimes.com/2009/04/23/opinion/23soufan.html?_r=2&ref=opinion

Nuff said.

Prosecute.

getalife on April 23, 2009 at 11:56 AM

Doctor Zero on April 23, 2009 at 11:40 AM

Doctor, I hope you’re wearing safety glasses.

(Hitting so many nails on the head could be a hazard, ya know.)

hillbillyjim on April 23, 2009 at 11:57 AM

getalife, does Soros and Moveon.org pay well? or are they minimum wage?

Bevan on April 23, 2009 at 11:58 AM

“Yes sir Mr. President … we tried the milk and cookies, even a couple playboys but he just won’t tell us where the 18 pounds of radioactive material is. No sir, he won’t accept the government job you offered, he said he’ll only take one at the Pentagon that has an ultra-secret security clearance. Give it to him? Yes sir. Invite him to dinner at the White House? Yes sir.

Mr. President … we just received word of an explosion in downtown New York. Yes sir … it was dirty. No dinner for him tonite? Yes sir. No TV as well. Yes sir … thank you Mr. President. Good night.”

darwin on April 23, 2009 at 11:58 AM

starfleet_dude on April 23, 2009 at 11:54 AM

For God’s sake starfleet dude … you’re linking to the NYT’s.

darwin on April 23, 2009 at 12:01 PM

Nuff said.

Prosecute.

getalife on April 23, 2009 at 11:56 AM

I concur. Prosecute ALL who knew and condoned it.

We’ll clean out the democrats one way or another. This is just as good as any.

Investigate! Prosecute! Jail!

darwin on April 23, 2009 at 12:02 PM

starfleet_dude on April 23, 2009 at 11:54 AM

You’re a chump if you call waterboarding torture. How the heck do you get through an Obama speech? Now that is torture

youngO on April 23, 2009 at 12:02 PM

I approve of water-boarding.

bluelightbrigade on April 23, 2009 at 12:02 PM

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