Pelosi on waterboarding: I knew nothing
posted at 5:39 pm on April 23, 2009 by Allahpundit
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Or rather, almost nothing. She admits she was told that waterboarding could be used but insists she was never told it would be used, which I can only take to mean she was sufficiently comfortable with the practice in theory as not to call a halt to it in the conceptual stage.
Needless to say, according to Porter Goss, she’s a liar:
Representative Nancy Pelosi of California, who in 2002 was the ranking Democrat on the House committee, has said in public statements that she recalls being briefed on the methods, including waterboarding. She insists, however, that the lawmakers were told only that the C.I.A. believed the methods were legal — not that they were going to be used.
By contrast, the ranking Republican on the House committee at the time, Porter J. Goss of Florida, who later served as C.I.A. director, recalls a clear message that the methods would be used.
“We were briefed, and we certainly understood what C.I.A. was doing,” Mr. Goss said in an interview. “Not only was there no objection, there was actually concern about whether the agency was doing enough.”
That jibes with WaPo’s blockbuster from December 2007 describing a virtual tour Pelosi (among others) was given of one of the CIA’s black sites, replete with descriptions of waterboarding used on detainees. And it jibes with Pete Hoekstra writing today in the Journal that Congress knew a lot more about all of this than its more “enlightened” members would have you believe. But then, as MKat reminds us, we’ve seen this movie before: The Democrats start strong on foreign policy ventures, drift left as their base’s shrieking grows noisier, and then play dumb to get themselves off the hook. The more I think about the show trials Obama wants for “torturers,” the more I think they’re going to blow up in his face: Much of the GOP is up front about its support for enhanced interrogation but revelations about how Democrats backed it too will be genuinely shocking. By all means, more sunshine on their hypocrisy, phony sanctimony, and opportunism. Pelosi’s just the beginning.
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“I
knewknow nothing.”There. That’s about right.
John_Locke on April 23, 2009 at 5:42 PM
She could barely spit that lie out of her lying mouth. I cant wait till she’s under oath.
becki51758 on April 23, 2009 at 5:42 PM
Third in line for the Presidency.
rob verdi on April 23, 2009 at 5:43 PM
Why would we ever distrust what a politician says?
eforhan on April 23, 2009 at 5:43 PM
Where is Perez Hilton when you need him?
Hummer53 on April 23, 2009 at 5:43 PM
By all means, more sunshine on their hypocrisy, phony sanctimony, and opportunism. Pelosi’s just the beginning.
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Amen!
youngO on April 23, 2009 at 5:43 PM
If she thought for one moment she was going to get a subpeona she would not make these statements. Which tells me that she knows that there will be no trial or has been assured that she is safe from harm.
Either this is all bluster to appeal to the far left or the fix is in, and she knows it.
John D on April 23, 2009 at 5:44 PM
Nancy’s face would implode if she told the truth.
upinak on April 23, 2009 at 5:44 PM
The bait is set, and Pelosi jumps in face first. When the truth comes out it will be fun to watch the campaign commercials.
portlandon on April 23, 2009 at 5:44 PM
Flop sweat running down those smooth cheeks. Think she isn’t mumbling curses at The One for painting a bullseye on her back?
a capella on April 23, 2009 at 5:45 PM
ThePrez on April 23, 2009 at 5:45 PM
Air Pelosi’s “I knew nuththink” defense would not have flown with even Sergeant Klink.
Sergeant Tim on April 23, 2009 at 5:47 PM
Is it me or is Pelosi starting to sound like Sargent Schultz on Hogan’s Heros?? I can see plenty of similarities there. :)
poxoma on April 23, 2009 at 5:47 PM
But…politicians never lie!!
jennifernaz on April 23, 2009 at 5:48 PM
Wow. She seemed pretty uncomforatable for somebody being honest.
Joe Caps on April 23, 2009 at 5:48 PM
She should have stayed silent, this lie will bite her in her botoxed rump.
ajmontana on April 23, 2009 at 5:48 PM
So, she knew about the NSA spying on Jane Harman, but didn’t know about high-value detainees being interrogated. Yeah, right.
She’s a @#$%*^& liar.
CP on April 23, 2009 at 5:48 PM
Gee, will the media force the standard of “What did she know and when did she know it” on Pelosi?
Defector01 on April 23, 2009 at 5:48 PM
Is that her nose I see growing? Some more!
GFW on April 23, 2009 at 5:49 PM
Pelosi knew nothing after attending all those meetings. Just like Obama being unaware Rev Wright was a nut-case after all those years sitting in a pew in his church.
Ever get the feeling when this country falls apart in the next 4 years, EVERYONE running the government will say ‘they knew nothing’?
GarandFan on April 23, 2009 at 5:49 PM
Well I guess that settles it.
gwelf on April 23, 2009 at 5:50 PM
Sgt Schultz
crash72 on April 23, 2009 at 5:50 PM
Hogan’s Heroes
“I know nuthink.”
Nancy’s pants are on fire!
This will be such fun, dragging her through her own shit.
maverick muse on April 23, 2009 at 5:51 PM
crash72 bwahahaha
maverick muse on April 23, 2009 at 5:51 PM
I think we need to waterboard her to see if she is telling the truth.
izoneguy on April 23, 2009 at 5:52 PM
HA comment request: If liar, liar Pelosi’s pants were on fire, how many here would **** on her to help put it out?
I’ll start: not even after I consumed a case of cold ones.
Sergeant Tim on April 23, 2009 at 5:53 PM
Are the adults in charge now?
Byzantine on April 23, 2009 at 5:53 PM
Exhibit 1 – Many US Flags behind the House Madam (see Alynski, S. Rules for Radicals)
Exhibit 2 – Her lips are moving (either she’s reading or speaking)
Exhibit 3 – She is a Democrat from San Francisco
Conclusion – The House Madam is lying through her botoxed teeth.
SeniorD on April 23, 2009 at 5:53 PM
Time to release the CIA’s Memos of Congressional briefings, no?
coldwarrior on April 23, 2009 at 5:54 PM
I agree, but she’s too stupid to realize it.
Dumbest.
House.
Speaker.
Ever.
Del Dolemonte on April 23, 2009 at 5:54 PM
Lying Whore!
HornetSting on April 23, 2009 at 5:54 PM
WTH? That’s what she is going with? I didn’t know? ~B
Brian on April 23, 2009 at 5:54 PM
Pelosi had NO IDEA what a clown she made herself–AGAIN.
The crowd has the same first take.
Crown her with the Nazi helmet.
maverick muse on April 23, 2009 at 5:54 PM
“I don’t remember” “The work load up here is incredible. It’s not possible to remember everything we talk about.”
How does Bart Simpson say it; “I didn’t do it, no one saw me, you can’t prove anything.”
Skandia Recluse on April 23, 2009 at 5:54 PM
Deer in the headlights.
Her voice (lying) reminds me of that woman that drove her car in the Lake and killed all her children then pleaded to America to help her find them.
Pelosi, I’m afraid we’re not going to fall for this. We’ve had far too much experience with you.
seesalrun on April 23, 2009 at 5:54 PM
I am against torture, and I consider waterbording torture. But Nancy Pelosi absolutely knew about it. All of congress knew about it.
I just think it is wrong. Nancy just thinks it is politically expedient to now say it is wrong.
Whether it works or not is a pretty weak argument either way. I doubt there is evidence it is overwelmingly effective, nor to I think it never works. I just do not think it is worth it.
And here are two guys who should know:
Michael Yon
and
Stewart Herrington, Lt.Col.(Ret)
I could add General Petraeus too. But most of you know that already.
Mr. Joe on April 23, 2009 at 5:54 PM
and so it begins… the great CYA of ‘09
gatorboy on April 23, 2009 at 5:55 PM
So our options are either she’s a lying shrew or an oblivious one?
katiejane on April 23, 2009 at 5:56 PM
I really think AG Holder needs to step up to the plate and do some investigatin’.
C’mon Holder … let’s get to the bottom of this.
darwin on April 23, 2009 at 5:56 PM
of course she didn’t know anything about it. she rammed through TRILLIONS in spending and not a goofball on the Hill knew anything about it either.
such a joke
gatorboy on April 23, 2009 at 5:56 PM
…to see what’s hiding under that goon masque.
maverick muse on April 23, 2009 at 5:56 PM
Need to see that body language gal on O’Reilly for this one.
darwin on April 23, 2009 at 5:56 PM
not a good idea at all – can you imagine the toxic waste that would wash off her face if it ever encoutered water? gross!
gatorboy on April 23, 2009 at 5:57 PM
She always stutters and spits when she is lying.
ctmom on April 23, 2009 at 5:57 PM
I stand corrected, Sgt Schultz.
Colonel Klink would have bought it (and have been appointed the Senate Intelligence Committee chairman as a reward).
Sergeant Tim on April 23, 2009 at 5:57 PM
*spit*
Mommypundit on April 23, 2009 at 5:58 PM
Ahhh, yea, that’s the ticket!
lefaucheur on April 23, 2009 at 5:58 PM
OBLIVIOUS?!
Get that ball rolling.
Nancy was OBLIVIOUS about the content of her legislation, too.
maverick muse on April 23, 2009 at 5:58 PM
Another piece of evidence for the argument that the President has to take this out of the political arena and give it to an independent commission.
Pardon the people – or grant immunity – assemble a commission of “wise men/women” and let them handle this.
It’s the only option.
SteveMG on April 23, 2009 at 5:59 PM
They’re not going to have an investigation on this, any more than one on the Feinstein/ERCB matter. Those other memos, that show good results, aren’t going to see the light, Palomino isn’t going to be under oath (who’s to say she’d tell the truth?), they can’t afford to have the history shown.
bikermailman on April 23, 2009 at 5:59 PM
HA or someone needs to splice together every comment Nancy Fire Pants has said on record in this regard – that is before it disappears……
I recall a couple. This statement is complete fabrication. At least her face isn’t straight.
Feeling a little pressure there ma’am?
seesalrun on April 23, 2009 at 6:00 PM
I think a lot of things are going to blow up in Obama’s face.
The Dems are starting to realize that show trials may sound like a lot of fun, but they are a double edged sword. Even a fawning media can’t hide the cynical hypocrisy the Dem leadership has exhibited throughout the GWOT (I mean “Overseas Contingency Operations”).
cruadin on April 23, 2009 at 6:01 PM
I absolutely believe Goss, but for those inclined to cock an eyebrow because he’s an R, Obama’s national intelligence director, in that memo that was released to the media initially highly edited on the interrogation methods that at first omitted how they got results and valuable information on the operation of Al Qaeda also said:
Blair does not support the interrogation methods—though the memo also contained (and initially deleted in public release) his opinion that those who made and employed the methods were doing what they thought was right. If he now says “members of Congress” were informed AND granted “permission to continue”, you can bet he would have pointed out any partisan division that might have existed. He doesn’t, we can surmise there wasn’t.
I am GRATIFIED to see here Pelosi being labeled flatly as a liar.
KittyLowrey on April 23, 2009 at 6:02 PM
Pelosi and the rest of these wormy politicians live in some parallel universe where real people don’t even exist.
rplat on April 23, 2009 at 6:02 PM
She sounds just like a coworker who is constantly slacking, filing EEOC complaints, grievances: he gets caught in something, and it’s “bububububuubububububu”.
bikermailman on April 23, 2009 at 6:02 PM
I was in Austria during the war…
Asher on April 23, 2009 at 6:04 PM
Let’s see. (1) She was in the meeting and fell asleep. (2)She was in the meeting, it was addressed in the briefing, but never audible mentioned. (We all know how well they read things) (3)Or she is a liar.
I’ll pick door #3.
PappaMac on April 23, 2009 at 6:05 PM
She was permanently damaged by the Nuns who applied the “torture” of humiliation and paddling at school for her incessant betrayals of truth. Torture can get someone to spill the beans. But lessons in humility didn’t teach Nancy to do what’s right, though her ticks show. Her morality: getting caught is the only corruption sin.
maverick muse on April 23, 2009 at 6:06 PM
We can, at least, reach a consensus that she is a shrew?
CaptFlood on April 23, 2009 at 6:08 PM
thomasaur on April 23, 2009 at 6:08 PM
She has to be speaking to her base. There is no way any intelligent person is buying this crap.
sherry on April 23, 2009 at 6:10 PM
She doth protest too much.
tru2tx on April 23, 2009 at 6:10 PM
maverick muse on April 23, 2009 at 6:10 PM
they just showed a clip on fox news does she realize there is CSPAN and like Government archives and stuff?
Dr Evil on April 23, 2009 at 6:10 PM
Ed and Allah need to put a photo on standby and label each post Part 1 through whatever.
Shifting gears, did anyone else hear Pelosi say, “I didn’t not have sexual relations with that form of torture”?
BuckeyeSam on April 23, 2009 at 6:10 PM
Literally… anything to get this POS gone. Anything. It’s like an insane asylum’s worst inmate has been issued the keys to the Porsche. She’s like a retarded monkey with her azz on fire… climbing up the tree into the wind and away from the pool of water. She’s just got to smell so bad… rotten to the core.
Griz on April 23, 2009 at 6:10 PM
Wonder how Joe Biden can top this lie???
Dire Straits on April 23, 2009 at 6:11 PM
She was in the room when the discussions occured, but did not inhale…
CaptFlood on April 23, 2009 at 6:11 PM
Legally, fail to recall; don’t issue blanket denials.
Ask Scooter Libby.
maverick muse on April 23, 2009 at 6:13 PM
Pelosi is taking a page out of the Walter Matthau movie A Guide for the Married Man. In a scene acted out by a philandering Sid Caesar, Matthau’s friend instructs Matthau that if ever caught messing around, deny. Deny. Deny. Deny.
We’ll see if it works.
BuckeyeSam on April 23, 2009 at 6:13 PM
BWAHAHAHAHAHAHA
maverick muse on April 23, 2009 at 6:13 PM
She is a liar. No doubt about it. In 2002, their number one concern was not being blamed for an attack..now their number one concern is covering their behinds. Pelosi has no more sense of right and wrong than a tree frog.
Terrye on April 23, 2009 at 6:14 PM
I saw nothing. I heard nothing. I know nothing. I was not at any of the meetings where Nancy Pelosi received all those detailed briefings. I did not even get up any of those days.
OberfeldwebelSchultz on April 23, 2009 at 6:14 PM
She’s probably stupid enough to think the CIA and the lawyers would ponder this question for purely academic reasons.
She’d probably hire lawyers to figure the most reasonable way to count the licks it takes to the Tootsie Roll ™ center of a Tootsie Pop ™, too.
hawksruleva on April 23, 2009 at 6:15 PM
She conveniently knows nothing about waterboarding even having attended many meetings, but can profess to know a great deal about what the Catholic church believes about abortion…
Scrappy on April 23, 2009 at 6:17 PM
Jesus. Another ‘It all depends on what the meaning of the word ‘is’ is’.
She probably wouldn’t be running her gob if she didn’t have some kind of cover…
Our government really needs an enema in the worst way.
BigWyo on April 23, 2009 at 6:17 PM
You want to know who you are, Nancy Pelosi? Huh? Huh? You don’t, I do, everyone does… you’re the daughter of a thousand fathers, all lying bastards like you
Tuco on April 23, 2009 at 6:17 PM
Were her eyes traveling at 58 bps (bats per second)? Can we just start over and get some real leadership instead of these clowns?
CynicalOptimist on April 23, 2009 at 6:18 PM
Where did all the trolls suddenly go?
TexasDan on April 23, 2009 at 6:21 PM
i can’t take anymore from this woman. i just…simply…..can’t!
Ghoul aid on April 23, 2009 at 6:21 PM
Bela Pelosi obviously drank too much iced tea that day.
Algore could not be reached for comment.
Del Dolemonte on April 23, 2009 at 6:22 PM
Say, where’s all the Usual LibTards?? They should be here defending Queen San Fran Gran Nan’s honor.
Maybe they’re having an extra long group-think on how to handle this situation.
BigWyo on April 23, 2009 at 6:23 PM
Is this like Palamino?
promachus on April 23, 2009 at 6:23 PM
[CaptFlood on April 23, 2009 at 6:11 PM]
Considering her remembrances of Catholic teaching and many of those clownish Dem leader press conferences of ‘07 and ‘08 wherein no one knew what they were proposing or had written in legislation, I’d say a Pelosi defense of airheadedness would be spot on. Maybe it’s because she does inhale.
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And, Allah, don’t forget about Rockafeller’s
diligent and timelystuffing of his files with backdated “I have reservations” memos back a couple of years ago when the heat started rising on the torture issue. I’ll have to do some googling to find it, but I will.Dusty on April 23, 2009 at 6:24 PM
They are patiently waiting for Begala to e-mail them their talking points.
Del Dolemonte on April 23, 2009 at 6:24 PM
Heh, then I guess we can start calling her “Shultz” from Hogan’s Heroes…”I know nuthiing…”
What a POS liar…!
Liberty or Death on April 23, 2009 at 6:25 PM
Nah, they’re still working on some answers to the questions we asked them a few days ago about some alternatives to “torture” that will actually work. Still dead silent on that one.
Scrappy on April 23, 2009 at 6:25 PM
Hey, where did all the in-house lefty trolls go? They should be to back her up. ****crickets****
Fletch54 on April 23, 2009 at 6:26 PM
Don’t worry, Obama’s not going to go after anyone on this. It’s all for show. He knows as well as Pelosi and all the others that they don’t want to go anywhere near that hornets nest.
I mean, he has already lobbed the ball over to Holder, so if Holder mysteriously says he won’t play ball on the issue, then Obama will just say that his man made the decision and that’s that.
Just like Obama promised no taxes on the middle class, but the Democrats will mysteriously pass laws to raise taxes and Obama will have to shrug and say he has no choice.
Seixon on April 23, 2009 at 6:26 PM
She lies like cheney:
Just man up and accept the punishment.
getalife on April 23, 2009 at 6:26 PM
I know the gutter and I know the stink of the street
For too long now I have pressed through your festering heat
All you royal liars who towered above me
You who gave me the smack of your rod
Now I will give you the gutter
I will give you the judgment of God!
Now Queen Pelosi gaze on our Goddess of Justice
With her shimmering, glimmering blade
As she kisses you she will sing you and all your lies a last serenade
Sing, swing
Savour the sting
As she severs you, Madame Guillotine
Slice, come paradise
Queen Pelosi, our Delilah will shave you razor clean
PercyB on April 23, 2009 at 6:28 PM
We have a winner!!!
BigWyo on April 23, 2009 at 6:28 PM
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