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Hate to follow you around Del Monte,but this cut-and-paste lies by liberals is getting old when it has already been debunked so throughly:

Del Dolemonte, Saddam Hussein never was a partner of al-Qaeda and had no involvement with the attacks on 9/11, contrary to what that Bush administration tried to insinuate. Nor the the 9/11 Commission conclude that Saddam Hussein was in any way involved either.

starfleet_dude on April 22, 2009 at 11:51 AM

You don’t know what you are talking about.
First of all,Bush never stated that Saddam had anything to do with 9/11,insinuation is nothing but a perceived opinion
from someone who is not listening.

The ties between al-aqaeda and Saddam have been established over and over by democrats,not just Bush’s cronies:

There is mountains of evidence that shows that Iraq/Al-qaeda worked together before we invaded.

Ironically,The best evidence is provided by democrats in their majority lead 2008 Senate Intelligence Report:

WaPo: Bush “substantiated by intelligence” - UPDATED
http://theanchoressonline.com/2008/06/09/wapo-bush-substantiated-by-intelligence/

What a long, strange trip it’s been, and here, some years later, we finally get someone in the press to tell it straight: Bush did not lie.

But dive into Rockefeller’s [Intelligence Committee] report, in search of where exactly President Bush lied about what his intelligence agencies were telling him about the threat posed by Saddam Hussein, and you may be surprised by what you find.

But statements regarding Iraq’s support for terrorist groups other than al-Qaeda “were substantiated by intelligence information.”

Statements that Iraq provided safe haven for Abu Musab al-Zarqawi and other terrorists with ties to al-Qaeda “were substantiated by the intelligence assessments,”

and statements regarding Iraq’s contacts with al-Qaeda “were substantiated by intelligence information.”

Getalife/starfleet is so wrong about so much they probably need to be reminded that Rockefeller is a democrat,not one of Bush’s cronies.
Abu-Musab Al-Zarqawi left the leadership of Osama Bin Laden
to start cell in Iraq after he was hurt in battle in Afghanistan.
Abu-Musab Al-Zarqawi leg was operated on in Saddam’s personal hospital,he was set up with a safe house,moved into N. Iraq to work with Al-Ansar,and launched attacks from there where one resulted in the killing of a top official in Jordan.
All before we invaded.
Al-Zarqawi ended up becoming one of the most lethal terrorist in history with tens of thousands of deaths associated with his quest to start a civil war in Iraq.
According to getalife/starfleet and the liberal sheep,somehow this does not count.
Kind of like Obama not knowing what the he!! was going on in a church he supported and attended for 20 yrs.
Liberal pretzel logic.

More evidence that the getalife/starfleet crew can’t comprehend:

Bush Did Not Lie!… Saddam Officials Had “Good Relationship” With Zarqawi

…Update: Sen. Bond Responds
http://gatewaypundit.blogspot.com/2008/06/bush-did-not-lie-saddam-officials-had.html#comments

The US knew that Al-Qaeda and Al-Zarqawi had a “good relationship” with Saddam Hussein officials before the war:

This document discovered after the invastion shows photos of Al-Qaeda leader Al-Zarqawi. (Dread Pundit Bluto)
ISGZ-2004-019920

2002 Iraqi Intelligence Correspondence concerning the presence of al-Qaida Members in Iraq. Correspondence between IRS members on a suspicion, later confirmed, of the presence of an Al-Qaeda terrorist group. Moreover, it includes photos and names.

More evidence that Bush did not lie.
This time from one of the leading liberal papers in the country,second only to the NY Times:

Bush never lied to us about Iraq

http://www.latimes.com/news/opinion/la-oe-kirchick16-2008jun16,0,4808346.story
From the Los Angeles Times

In 2004, the Senate Intelligence Committee unanimously approved a report acknowledging that it “did not find any evidence that administration officials attempted to coerce, influence or pressure analysts to change their judgments.” The following year, the bipartisan Robb-Silberman report similarly found “no indication that the intelligence community distorted the evidence regarding Iraq’s weapons of mass destruction.”

Yet Rockefeller’s highly partisan report does not substantiate its most explosive claims. Rockefeller, for instance, charges that “top administration officials made repeated statements that falsely linked Iraq and Al Qaeda as a single threat and insinuated that Iraq played a role in 9/11.” Yet what did his report actually find? That Iraq-Al Qaeda links were “substantiated by intelligence information.” The same goes for claims about Hussein’s possession of biological and chemical weapons, as well as his alleged operation of a nuclear weapons program.

And of course the evidence was so strong against Saddam that leading democrats like Rockefeller considered Saddam an
“Imminent threat”,something Bush did not even go so far as to say:

After all, it was not Bush, but Rockefeller, who said in October 2002: “There has been some debate over how ‘imminent’ a threat Iraq poses. I do believe Iraq poses an imminent threat. I also believe after September 11, that question is increasingly outdated. . . . To insist on further evidence could put some of our fellow Americans at risk. Can we afford to take that chance? I do not think we can.”

Baxter Greene on April 22, 2009 at 10:33 AM

Baxter Greene on April 22, 2009 at 12:43 PM

More proof of Saddam/al-qaeda links BEFORE Bush became President.

I guess President Clinton is a war criminal too.

IRAQ TERROR LINKS
1. U.S. Grand Jury Indictment of Osama bin Laden, dated November 6, 1998:
Paragraph 4. “In addition, al Qaeda reached an understanding with the government of Iraq that al Qaeda would not work against that government and that on particular projects, specifically including weapons development, al Qaeda would work cooperatively with the Government of Iraq.”

http://tinyurl.com/3f2rq

2. Top secret Iraqi document dated March 28, 1992, lists Osama bin Laden as an asset of the Iraqi intelligence services.

http://tinyurl.com/ks4at

3. In 1992, Ayman al Zawahiri–who later became the Number Two in al Qaeda–visited Baghdad for a meeting with Saddam Hussein.

http://tinyurl.com/7d7hx

4. From 1999 to 2002, Saddam Hussein ran three training camps in Iraq that produced thousands of Islamic terrorists.

http://tinyurl.com/c7njm

5. Saddam’s intelligence service gave Ansar al-Islam money and weapons.

http://tinyurl.com/78hzj

6. Iraqi memo dated November 22, 1999, shows that Saddam Hussein’s chemists trained “Arab fedayeen” how to make IEDs

http://powerlineblog.com/archives/013815.php

7. Iraqi memo dated March 11, 2001, shows that Saddam Hussein recruited suicide volunteers to attack U.S. interests.

http://tinyurl.com/gcbso

8. 9/11 ringleader Mohammed Atta was trained by Palestinian terrorist Abu Nidal in Baghdad in July of 2001.

http://tinyurl.com/z6v4

9. Members of an Iraqi secret-police organization called Unit 999 were dispatched to camps in Afghanistan to instruct Al Qaeda terrorists.

http://tinyurl.com/ywp78r

10. Abu Nidal lived openly in Baghdad.

http://tinyurl.com/26l8m9

11. Saddam maintained a terrorist training camp at Salman Pak near Baghdad where foreign terrorists were trained how to take over commercial aircraft using weapons no more sophisticated than knives.

http://tinyurl.com/4ah6z

12. Iraq gave Abdul Rahman Yasin, a 1993 World Trade Center bombing conspirator, both money and sanctuary.

http://tinyurl.com/4ah6z

13. Abu Zubayr, an officer in Saddam’s secret police, was also the ringleader of an al Qaeda cell in Morocco. He attended the September 5, 2001 meeting in Spain with other al Qaeda operatives, including Ramzi Bin-al-Shibh, the 9/11 financial chief.

http://tinyurl.com/4ah6z

14. Iraq made direct payments to the Philippine-based al Qaeda-affiliated Abu Sayyaf group.

http://tinyurl.com/4ah6z

15. In August 1998, an Iraqi member of al Qaeda traveled to Pakistan with an agent of Iraqi Intelligence for the purpose of blowing up the American and British embassies with chemical mortars.

http://tinyurl.com/7d7hx

Baxter Greene on April 22, 2009 at 12:56 PM

There is more on record of the links established between Saddam,al-aqeda,and other terrorist groups before and after Bush became President:

“Coalition forces have found alive and well key terrorists who enjoyed Husseins’s hospitality.Among them was Abu abbas,mastermind of the Oct.1985 Achille Lauro hijacking and murder of Leon Klinghoffer,a 69 yr.old man in a wheelchair.
Khala Khadr al-Salahat,accused of designing th bomb that destroyed Pan Am flight 103 over Lockerbie,Scotland in Dec.1988(259 killed on board,11 killed on the ground)also lived in Baathist Iraq.

Before fatally shooting himself four times in the head on August 16,2002, as Baghdad claimed,Palestinian terrorist abu Nidal had resided in Iraq since 1999.As the APs Sameer n. Yacoub reported on August 21,2002, ;the Beirut office of the Abu Nidal Organization said he entered Iraq”with the full
knowledge and preparations of the Iraqi authorities.”Nidal’s attacks in 20 countries killed at least 275 people and wounded some 625 others.”

“US intelligence officals have confirmed that abdul Rahman Yasin, a suspect in the 1993 World Trade Center bombing,was being harbored in Iraq.documents recently found in Tikrit indicate that Saddam provided Yasin with monthly payments and a home.According to federal authorities, the Ramzi Yousef-led terror cell that carried out the 1993 bombing received funding form Khalid Sheikh Mohammed,alleged mastermind of the 2001 attack.”
Opinionjournal,Mar.13,2005

“Iraq continues to be a safehaven,transit point,or operational node for groups and individuals who direct violence against the US,Israel,and other allies.Iraq has a long history of supporting terrorism.During the last four decades,it has altered its targets to reflect changing priorities and goals.It continues to harbor and sustain a number of smaller anti-Israel terrorist groups and to actively encourage violence against Israel.Regarding the Iraq-Al-Qaeda relationship,reporting from sources of varying credibility points to a number of contacts,incidents of training,and discussions of Iraqi safehaven for Osama bin Laden and his organization dating from the early 1990′s.”

Senate report,2003 Iraqi support for terrorism

Richard Clarke told the Washington post on Jan.1999 that he
was “sure” that Iraq was behind the production fo the chemical weapons precursor at the Al-Shifa plant.
“Clarke said US intelligence does not know how much of the substance was produced at al Shifa or what happened to it.”
wrote Post reporter Vernon Loeb,”but eh said that intelligence exists linking bin laden to Al-Shifa’s current and past operators, the Iraqi nerve gas experts,and the National Islamic Front in Sudan.”

Clarke and Cohen still stand by their assessment that Saddam/al-qaeda/Sudan worked together on WMD which was the basis for the raining of tomahawks on the “aspirin plant”.

Baxter Greene on April 22, 2009 at 1:10 PM

And guess who was the leader in opposing the handing off of Bin Laden to the US on a silver platter from the Sudan:

As a Senior Foreign Policy Adviser/UN Ambassador to Obama, Susan Rice,

Richard Miniter, author of the bestseller Losing Bin Laden, it was she who was a major opponent of accepting Sudan’s offer to turn over the world’s most wanted mass murderer. At the time, Rice was the Clinton Administration’s Secretary of State for African Affairs and a former assistant National Security Advisor under Sandy Berger.

According the both Ijaz and Miniter, Rice’s personal beliefs on the Sudan’s credibility led to her convincing Berger to reject their offer to turn over Bin Laden, overruling the advice of Tim Carney, then ambassador to Sudan. Her partner in this colossal error in judgment? Bush hater Richard Clarke. Sadly, a little more than a year later, Bin Laden’s murderers blew up the African embassies, killing U. S. soldiers and citizens.

Part of that “smart power” we keep hearing about but not seeing any results from.

Baxter Greene on April 22, 2009 at 1:59 PM

You have got to be kidding.
Hillary talking about “credibility”
I would be surprised if little Mrs. “overcharge” can even spell it.

Secretary of State Hillary Clinton seized on an opportunity Wednesday to take a shot at Dick Cheney in front of a House committee, telling lawmakers that she did not view the former vice president as a “particularly reliable source” on issues of torture.

This coming from the woman who dodges phantom sniper fire while being filmed and basically called General Petreaus a liar:

Hillary “Willing suspension of disbelief”
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RjcTb2ORVd0

But who are we to question the woman who proclaims America as the oldest democracy during her “Smart Power” tour.

Didn’t she help Bush lie America into the Iraq war according to liberals:

“Every nation has to either be with us, or against us.
Those who harbor terrorists, or who finance them, are going to pay a price.”

Senator Hillary Clinton (Democrat, New York)
During an interview on CBS Evening News with Dan Rather
September 13, 2001

Dam#!!! that Cowboy diplomacy!!!!

“In the four years since the inspectors left, intelligence reports show that Saddam Hussein has worked to rebuild his chemical and biological weapons stock, his missile delivery capability, and his nuclear program. He has also given aid, comfort, and sanctuary to terrorists, including Al Qaeda members…

It is clear, however, that if left unchecked, Saddam Hussein will continue to increase his capacity to wage biological and chemical warfare, and will keep trying to develop nuclear weapons. Should he succeed in that endeavor, he could alter the political and security landscape of the Middle East, which as we know all too well, effects American security.

This is a very difficult vote, this is probably the hardest decision I’ve ever had to make. Any vote that might lead to war should be hard, but I cast it with conviction.”

Senator Hillary Clinton (Democrat, New York)
Addressing the US Senate
October 10, 2002

Now she is the liberal darling and shining light on credibility after saying the same things about Saddam that Bush is accused of telling lies about.

How progressive!!!!!!

Baxter Greene on April 22, 2009 at 3:01 PM

Get your niece getalife back here. At least she has more than one (insert here)

Del Dolemonte on April 23, 2009 at 12:25 AM

At least getalife knows she doesn’t have a clue where Constatine makes a complete fool out of herself acting like she does.

Baxter Greene on April 23, 2009 at 4:17 AM

BTW I don’t know if Baxter Greene has used this as a cite, but a blogger from Massachusetts, “mveritas”, spent countless hours of his free time translating captured Iraqi documents after we liberated Iraq in 2003. Those translations proved beyond a shadow of a doubt that Saddam Hussein supported terrorism outside his country.
Del Dolemonte on April 22, 2009 at 7:36 PM

Bought the book.
Lots of info.

I think this relates:

Saddam’s Dangerous Friends
What a Pentagon review of 600,000 Iraqi documents tells us.
by Stephen F. Hayes
03/24/2008, Volume 013, Issue 27
http://www.weeklystandard.com/Content/Public/Articles/000/000/014/889pvpxc.asp

This ought to be big news. Throughout the early and mid-1990s, Saddam Hussein actively supported an influential terrorist group headed by the man who is now al Qaeda’s second-in-command, according to an exhaustive study issued last week by the Pentagon. “Saddam supported groups that either associated directly with al Qaeda (such as the Egyptian Islamic Jihad, led at one time by bin Laden’s deputy, Ayman al-Zawahiri) or that generally shared al Qaeda’s stated goals and objectives.” According to the Pentagon study, Egyptian Islamic Jihad was one of many jihadist groups that Iraq’s former dictator funded, trained, equipped, and armed.

The study was commissioned by the Joint Forces Command in Norfolk, Virginia, and produced by analysts at the Institute for Defense Analyses, a federally funded military think tank. It is entitled “Iraqi Perspectives Project: Saddam and Terrorism: Emerging Insights from Captured Iraqi Documents.” The study is based on a review of some 600,000 documents captured in postwar Iraq. Those “documents” include letters, memos, computer files, audiotapes, and videotapes produced by Saddam Hussein’s regime, especially his intelligence services. The analysis section of the study covers 59 pages. The appendices, which include copies of some of the captured documents and translations, put the entire study at approximately 1,600 pages.

I like a statement I saw blogged earlier that went something like this:

Liberals believe al-qaeda was operating in every muslim country but one: Iraq.

Typical liberal pretzel logic.

Baxter Greene on April 23, 2009 at 4:31 AM