Pelosi knew about Harman wiretap
posted at 2:55 pm on April 22, 2009 by Ed Morrissey
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Roll Call reports that Nancy Pelosi got briefed years ago on the NSA’s wiretap recordings that caught Jane Harman discussing a deal with espionage suspects for AIPAC’s political support. Pelosi’s revelation makes it a little more difficult for Harman to claim that Congress has been victimized by an out-of-control national security apparatus, but she’s giving that the old college try nonetheless:
The National Security Agency briefed Speaker Nancy Pelosi (D-Calif.) “a few years ago” that they had wiretapped Rep. Jane Harman (D-Calif.), Pelosi revealed Wednesday.
But Pelosi said she was not told what federal eavesdroppers picked up on the call — and never alerted Harman to it.
“It was not my position to raise it with Jane Harman,” Pelosi told reporters at the Christian Science Monitor lunch. “In fact, I didn’t even know if what they were talking about was real. All they said was that she was wiretapped.”
Of course Pelosi couldn’t inform Harman of the wiretap. That would have obstructed an ongoing espionage investigation, which could have resulted in criminal prosecution. The Obama administration appears ready to drop the espionage prosecution, however:
The U.S. government may abandon espionage-law charges against two former lobbyists for a pro-Israel advocacy group, officials said yesterday, as a prominent House lawmaker denied new allegations that she offered to use her influence in their behalf.
Rep. Jane Harman (D-Calif.) accused the government of an “abuse of power” in wiretapping her conversations, following news reports that she had been recorded in 2006 on FBI wiretaps that officials at the time said raised questions of possible illegal conduct.
Harman’s expression of outrage added a political dimension to the prosecution of the two former lobbyists, who were charged in 2005 under a World War I-era espionage law with conspiring to give national defense information to journalists and Israeli Embassy officials.
With the trial set to begin June 2, the Justice Department is reviewing whether to proceed as planned or withdraw the indictments after a series of adverse court rulings, according to law enforcement sources and lawyers close to the case.
In the end, then, this may wind up being much ado about nothing, but it’s certainly not an “abuse of power,” as Harman alleges. The NSA did not set out to wiretap Harman and other members of Congress. They got warrants to wiretap the espionage suspects, and recorded their conversations — including those they had with Harman.
Harman now wants to make it sound that Congress is at the mercy of an out-of-control NSA, but Pelosi’s statement puts paid to that nonsense. They got warrants, and when the conversations started to include a member of Congress, they briefed the Speaker to keep legislative leadership informed of the situation. It sounds as though the NSA followed all of the rules and even respected interbranch courtesies to keep everything above board.
Members of Congress may wind up on wiretap recordings if suspects in investigations with court-ordered wiretaps call them, or if the members call the suspects. The best way to ensure that deals for obstructing justice don’t get made public is not to agree to them in the first place.
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Whats Cloris Leachman doing there?
GoodBoy on April 22, 2009 at 2:58 PM
I hope that this leads to a course of Congressional Dems eating their own…
Most ethical Congress ever? Really?
coldwarrior on April 22, 2009 at 2:59 PM
Interesting.
AnninCA on April 22, 2009 at 3:00 PM
It’s Nancy Pelosi with gray hair and a tan ….. isn’t it?
BigD on April 22, 2009 at 3:00 PM
Or George Hamilton in drag???
sherry on April 22, 2009 at 3:03 PM
The adults are in charge.
Or something.
Conservative_SAHM on April 22, 2009 at 3:04 PM
Tried asking this on the leftist boards but got shouted down so I’ll try here.
WHO illegally leaked this info and for what purpose?
Skywise on April 22, 2009 at 3:04 PM
+1000
HA!
portlandon on April 22, 2009 at 3:06 PM
This is all Bush’s fault or something like that!
Bush lied, Peolsi Denied.
sargentj on April 22, 2009 at 3:08 PM
Apparently it is kind of old news. It was known in 2006 but Harman denied it.
Why is it coming out now, who knows, the question really is what it this supposed to distract us from?
ORconservative on April 22, 2009 at 3:10 PM
Hey! I like Cloris Leachman. Don’t be hatin’…
ladyingray on April 22, 2009 at 3:16 PM
Is anybody surprised? This is what happens when your free press watch dog turns into a lapdog.
Keep your eye on the ball, it’s the USA bankruptcy that is important. Is ZERO trying to do top the USA what Reagan did to the Soviet Union? Spend us into oblivion?
tarpon on April 22, 2009 at 3:16 PM
Her Dancing with the Stars gig was over, so she decided to become Harman’s double.
With that tan, are we sure she’s not Charlie Crist’s mother?
BuckeyeSam on April 22, 2009 at 3:19 PM
Good point. The case on torturing? Will BO pursue all who may be guilty, or does BO prefer to cover state secrets w/o his much talked about transparency?
Benjamin9 on April 22, 2009 at 3:19 PM
Now wait a minute – are there any Republicans involved?
No.
Well, then what’s the big deal?
kybowexar on April 22, 2009 at 3:20 PM
They said if the people had nothing to hide, they have nothing to worry about.
Sweet karma for the dems.
Stolen freedom is always a horrible idea.
getalife on April 22, 2009 at 3:23 PM
Great point, when they throw one of their own to the wolves, there’s usually something bigger to cover-up.
Tim Zank on April 22, 2009 at 3:23 PM
Of course, there are gop involved.
They were in power and stole freedom.
The dems caved as usual.
They are probably spying on the gop too.
getalife on April 22, 2009 at 3:25 PM
Is anyone else enjoying this as much as I am?
drjohn on April 22, 2009 at 3:26 PM
Who authorized the release of the conversation and transcript?
There are only three people who really could do that- Obama, Biden and Rahmbo.
drjohn on April 22, 2009 at 3:28 PM
So now you’re trying satire?
I find your postname so ironic… honestly.
kybowexar on April 22, 2009 at 3:30 PM
Illegal spying on Americans is another crime commited by w that cons gave a free pass and said it made them safer.
The truth always comes out.
There will be much more that cons were dead wrong about.
getalife on April 22, 2009 at 3:32 PM
Most ethical Congress EVAH!
So dirty emails by a Republican, loose Congress. Talk with foreign agents about shifting policies, no biggie. I hate the media.
Iblis on April 22, 2009 at 3:32 PM
This Congesstitute sits on the House Intelligence Committee! Tell me she didn’t know of investigations into potential espionage by Israel!
Talk about chutzpa!
SeniorD on April 22, 2009 at 3:33 PM
Cloris is too ethical to be in Congress.
kirkill on April 22, 2009 at 3:33 PM
Oh boy, this is getting fun. George in drag, yep, I think it is.
foxone on April 22, 2009 at 3:33 PM
Here is your answer in your native language…Oink Oink, you little liberal Animal Farm piglet…
right2bright on April 22, 2009 at 3:36 PM
These people are going to be too busy going after all the evil Bush for torture to mess with such a ‘tiny’ thing like crooks in dc.
L
letget on April 22, 2009 at 3:37 PM
Ill give the libs credit for this one.
They fought against it.
They are laughing.
getalife on April 22, 2009 at 3:38 PM
Getalife… they’re your people…
Who illegally leaked the info on Harmon and why do you support such illegal leaks?
Skywise on April 22, 2009 at 3:46 PM
No, I am a proud Independent that supports freedom.
getalife on April 22, 2009 at 3:48 PM
I think the torture shit is distraction as well. I think that Cheney calling Obama on the torture screwed up the tactic.
This JHarman stuff was distraction number 2, the torture was last week’s.
The only other thing that could be going on is a scare Harman thing but I am going with distraction.
Hell, maybe both, it is Rahmbo.
ORconservative on April 22, 2009 at 3:49 PM
Really? You sound more like you believe others should enjoy the sound of your typing.
Independent? Of what?
kybowexar on April 22, 2009 at 3:50 PM
Party or ideology.
Try it.
Liberating.
getalife on April 22, 2009 at 3:51 PM
It is trying to take over the thread, folks. Ignore it.
HornetSting on April 22, 2009 at 3:54 PM
There – that fixed it. Glad to help.
kybowexar on April 22, 2009 at 3:56 PM
Okay “freedom lover” who illegally leaked the report and why do you support such a political assault on civil liberties?
Or do you now support W’s actions against Valerie Plame?
Skywise on April 22, 2009 at 3:56 PM
HornetSting – I had technically started it with him/she/it
I’ll stop now though. There really is no point in poking under the bridge and harassing the trolls.
kybowexar on April 22, 2009 at 3:57 PM
Is this the old feud from when Nancy Pelosi was running for the House Speaker’s chair?
Dr Evil on April 22, 2009 at 3:58 PM
I understand. Poking the stick under the rock or bridge is great fun, but then you wake it up and it just starts spouting its stupidity and takes over, like Barney Frank.
HornetSting on April 22, 2009 at 4:00 PM
Cat fight. I have five on Harman, she can peel pelosi’s plastic face off and show us her ‘real’ mask. ugh.
HornetSting on April 22, 2009 at 4:01 PM
Happened while Bush was President.
Inherited problem.
Ignore problem….unless it has something to do with a Republican or former Bush Administration official.
albill on April 22, 2009 at 4:01 PM
Someone with their faces stretched too tight settling some old scores?
http://www.christiantalkzone.net/forum/archive/index.php/t-2693.html
The Republican pollster makes no bones about his party’s present predicament. The House is history, the Senate hangs by a thread, the GOP coalition is disunited and dispirited. The Democrats are holding all the cards and playing them, if not perfectly, then at least as well as Democrats ever do.
There is, he says, only one cause for hope that Republicans can cling to: Her name is Nancy Pelosi. “Whenever she opens her mouth, she loses the Democrats votes,” the pollster says. “The smartest thing that [Democratic Congressional Campaign Committee chairman] Rahm Emanuel could do is have her spend the rest of the campaign in Alaska and Hawaii—taking a boat from one to the other.”
Confronting the prospect of Speaker Pelosi gives many Democrats, too, the chills. Consider the story making the rounds last week about her plans to deny the chairmanship of the House Intelligence Committee to its ranking Democrat, Jane Harman. Harman is a smart and creative moderate.
So she holds little attraction for Pelosi—who is thinking instead of elevating Representative Alcee Hastings, an African-American whose selection would help Pelosi shore up support from the Congressional Black Caucus. Never mind that, in 1989, Hastings was impeached and removed from a federal judgeship on charges of corruption and perjury.
Dem Demon (http://nymag.com/news/politics/powergrid/23482/index.html)
Dr Evil on April 22, 2009 at 4:01 PM
As for the over-arching “wire tap” thing…
I honestly do not believe it infringes on anyone’s right to privacy – if you are not breaking the dang law!
If they listen in to my wife and I talking on the phone and hear pretty banal stuff – that’s too bad for them.
If I’m breaking the law – I cannot exactly be surprised when the law comes looking for me. Correct me if I’m wrong – but isn’t there is still a judge or two involved in here somewhere along the chain of events for a wiretap?
kybowexar on April 22, 2009 at 4:04 PM
Jane Harman would make herself into an American Hero if she took Pelosi down…..Nancy Pelosi has a spy in the house of love *Democrat controlled Congress. LOL!
Dr Evil on April 22, 2009 at 4:04 PM
I don’t think it is plastic. Not sure what it is, but wouldn’t plastic look better?
kybowexar on April 22, 2009 at 4:05 PM
Once again it looks like Israel is about to get away with conspiring against us once again. Imagine the outrage here if this were the Saudi’s conspiring with our politicians at the highest levels of government requesting help in support of their espionage agents.
The real issue here is AIPAC. Hartman is secondary since many politicians do the bidding of this corrupt lobby.
Man, what the hell happened to all the honest folk?
True_King on April 22, 2009 at 4:06 PM
getalife – always good for (repugnant) comic relief and ad hominem attacks.
He or She must be a dead ringer for Al ‘Bad Clown’ Franken
SeniorD on April 22, 2009 at 4:07 PM
Sure… it’s also another clue… Who’s willing to illegally leak information to attack a Democrat congresswoman while simultaneously damaging US/Israel relations…
Skywise on April 22, 2009 at 4:08 PM
The ice is cracking, not a moment too soon. Democrats will take up sides, does anyone think they didn’t pay attention to the tea partys, and their subsequent loss of job security if they follow San Fran Nan? So who will they side with…hmmm.
Dr Evil on April 22, 2009 at 4:08 PM
Illegal spying on Americans is another crime commited by w that cons gave a free pass and said it made them safer.
The truth always comes out.
There will be much more that cons were dead wrong about.
getalife on April 22, 2009 at 3:32 PM
If it’s illegal, then why is Obama continuing these same “illegal” issues, and expanding his powers for them? They haven’t stopped. Obama kept them nice lil powers! ;)
capejasmine on April 22, 2009 at 4:09 PM
Thanks for ruining lunch, dinner and tomorrow’s breakfast.
SeniorD on April 22, 2009 at 4:09 PM
Why do these folks keep getting elected? Constituencies ignorant or stupid? Can’t blame the elected folks they got the votes must be what we want.
rsl775 on April 22, 2009 at 4:18 PM
capejasmine on April 22, 2009 at 4:09 PM
He voted for amnesty before anybody was indicted.
The debate and vote was nothing but a cover up and making it legal.
The left was unhinged but laughing now at the karma.
They never give up power.
getalife on April 22, 2009 at 4:19 PM
Jane! Jane! Jane!
Dr Evil on April 22, 2009 at 4:20 PM
It’s hard to swallow, but Democrats eat their own….
CynicalOptimist on April 22, 2009 at 4:20 PM
So that’s what you clueless trolls are calling yourselves these days! I guess it just goes along with the filthy liar’s claim that his attacks on this nation is nothing more than “progressivism.” His minions needed a new name too to disguise all the damage that the nation is suffering because of traitors like you and Obama.
Get a life, get a clue. You are hardly independent and your adamant unquestioning and uncritical support of the filthy liar’s agenda demonstrates that you are no friend of individual freedoms.
highhopes on April 22, 2009 at 4:21 PM
The left was unhinged but laughing now at the karma.
They never give up power.
getalife on April 22, 2009 at 4:19 PM
What???
capejasmine on April 22, 2009 at 4:22 PM
highhopes on April 22, 2009 at 4:21 PM
I am a proud Independent that supports freedom and our President.
getalife on April 22, 2009 at 4:24 PM
capejasmine on April 22, 2009 at 4:22 PM
The left fought against it and now are laughing at the dems getting spied upon.
Presidents never give up power.
getalife on April 22, 2009 at 4:25 PM
Okay “freedom lover” who illegally leaked the report and why do you support such a political assault on civil liberties?
Or do you now support W’s actions against Valerie Plame?
Skywise on April 22, 2009 at 3:56 PM
Skywise on April 22, 2009 at 4:25 PM
Seperated at Birth
Wade on April 22, 2009 at 4:28 PM
Skywise on April 22, 2009 at 4:25 PM
Don’t know.
And no.
getalife on April 22, 2009 at 4:28 PM
Then why do you support this political attack on Harman?
Skywise on April 22, 2009 at 4:31 PM
Skywise on April 22, 2009 at 4:25 PM
Just laughing at it.
Do you believe in karma?
getalife on April 22, 2009 at 4:32 PM
Not the pelosi I knew. They are against
wire taps. Correction. Were against wire taps by the Bush leadership.seven on April 22, 2009 at 4:32 PM
What actions?
Wade on April 22, 2009 at 4:33 PM
Hey, if you want to sell out your independent ideology for some religious values, be my guest.
Skywise on April 22, 2009 at 4:39 PM
Regardless of whether or not Plame’s identity was leaked, the Bush Administration did attempt a counter-propaganda campaign to Wilson’s illegal leak (there’s that term again) of documents that insinuated there was a conspiracy afloat with whomever made the assignment.
I don’t think there was an intentional attempt to “out” Plame or blow her cover and I think the Bush Administration was doing their best to counter anti-war propaganda.
That Plame’s identity was leaked, by a Democrat no less… but only Republicans were investigated and tried just proves that the whole thing was a political attack by Dems… continuing their corruption here.
Skywise on April 22, 2009 at 4:45 PM
Proof.
Johan Klaus on April 22, 2009 at 4:57 PM
Proof.
Johan Klaus on April 22, 2009 at 4:57 PM
That hair reminds me more of Larry Harmon. Oops, he’s dead. Who is Bozo these days?
Mr. Grump on April 22, 2009 at 4:58 PM
Back to class, young’un.
Johan Klaus on April 22, 2009 at 4:58 PM
Guess what was said about Wilson, which is now accepted as fact is called some PC term “counter-propaganda campaign”. Very weak argument for Bush bashing.
Wade on April 22, 2009 at 5:12 PM
Yep, “most honest, ethical Congress, evah!”.
GarandFan on April 22, 2009 at 5:21 PM
What would you call it?
Skywise on April 22, 2009 at 5:36 PM
Explaining what happened. Wilson lied about the trip, Wilson lied about the yellow cake. Then Wilson cries foul. Sorry. No reason to bash Bush like you did. Bush made his share of mistakes and they include keeping pukes like Wilson around from the Clinton Administration and Armitage who did not have the balls to step up and tell the truth. And that I would call naive.
And no mater what the Bush Administration (you say W) it does not excuse what is going on in this case and in referring to prior administrations is an distraction. Typical liberal defense.
Wade on April 22, 2009 at 6:39 PM
Happy Cows Come From California
Dr Evil on April 22, 2009 at 6:43 PM
“Pelosi’s statement puts paid to that nonsense.”
You’ve got to be kidding! Pelosi claims that they only told her about the wire tap yet she simultaneously tells us that she didn’t even know if “what they were talking about” was real. How, precisely do those two sentences put together make sense?
Pelosi is sitting on an incendiary political grenade which just happens to explode in the face of her nemesis, Jane Harman, at the very moment torture memos are being released. Harman also just happens to be someone who is not only able, but likely willing, to confirm that House leadership not only knew all about the interrogations at issue, but approved them. Then what do you know — selective leaks about a four year old conversation, clearly designed to destroy Harman’s credibility, suddenly come out of nowhere.
Cui bono, Ed? Between Pelosi and a Justice Dept struggling with a bum case against the AIPAC duo, I’m going with Pelosi.
JM Hanes on April 22, 2009 at 6:44 PM
So that statement should clear Madame Pelosi…
Not so fast…
Hmm “Misprision of Felony” comes to mind…
byteshredder on April 22, 2009 at 9:12 PM
Obama Franks Waters LLC — destroyers of the nation’s economy
And “Independent” is usually spelled with a small “i” — unless it’s a political party.
unclesmrgol on April 23, 2009 at 12:25 AM
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