Oh my: Minuteman founder to challenge McCain in Arizona primary

posted at 4:45 pm on April 21, 2009 by Allahpundit

Is this going to be another one of those half-hearted blogosphere crusades, a la Murtha’s House races, where we rah-rah sporadically for some scrappy right-wing challenger and he ends up losing by 15-20 points?

Either we’re in this the whole way, with gusto, or we’re out. Decide now.

Chris Simcox, the founder of the Minuteman Civil Defense Corps and a prominent figure in the anti-immigration movement, will announcing tomorrow at an event on the Mexican border that he’s resigned from the group to run in the 2010 Senate primary.

From a forthcoming release:

“John McCain has failed miserably in his duty to secure this nation’s borders and protect the people of Arizona from the escalating violence and lawlessness,” Simcox said. “He has fought real efforts over the years at every turn, opting to hold our nation’s border security hostage to his amnesty schemes. Coupled with his votes for reckless bailout spending and big government solutions to our nation’s problems, John McCain is out of touch with everyday Arizonans. Enough is enough.”

He’s already accepting donations. Ben Smith thinks he’ll be a “serious local headache” for McCain, but I suspect that depends on how hard The One pushes amnesty this year. If it turns into the sort of galvanizing issue for the base that it was two years ago, Maverick’s in trouble. If not, not. He can’t really afford to tack right on the issue in the primary lest he alienate the Latino voters — 30 percent demographically — that he’ll need to win the general, especially in a state that’s already blue enough to have elected Napolitano governor. So it’s “comprehensive immigration reform” or bust. Exit question: Donate, or save those hard-earned recession dollars for knocking off a Democrat somewhere? Bear in mind that if he does upset McCain, the seat will almost certainly go blue in the general.

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Bambi:

I am so sick and tired of hearing people blame McCain for the behavior of is grown daughter. It is petty and stupid.

For years and years and years we had a virtual open border in Arizona. It was always that way. Now, people want it fixed, fine, but they want it fixed yesterday and they want to blame people like McCain for the fact that it was ever open in the first place. Never mind the fact that it was the same damn border for 140 years and no one did crap about it.

Terrye on April 21, 2009 at 5:40 PM

Well, McCain can’t brag on the earmarks he brings home to Arizona, like Murtha did.

Sue on April 21, 2009 at 5:40 PM

Democrats must just love this. Once again Republicans turn on their own, eat their own.

Terrye on April 21, 2009 at 5:37 PM

McCain is not one of our own.

Big Orange on April 21, 2009 at 5:41 PM

Rather doubtful, but fantasize on anyway.

MB4 on April 21, 2009 at 5:39 PM

It’s no fantasy. Goldwater was an advocate of gay rights and abortion rights. He and his wife were on the board of Planned Parenthood.

It was a very different GOP back then.

manwithblackhat on April 21, 2009 at 5:42 PM

I’m a loser
I’m a loser
And I lost an el Presidency and maybe my el Senate throne that was dear to me
I’m a loser
And I’m not what I appear to be

MB4 on April 21, 2009 at 5:36 PM

I’m a loser
And I lost someone that was dear to me

does not equal

I’m a loser
And I lost an el Presidency and maybe my el Senate throne that was dear to me

You have an entire additional cadence in there.

Conclusion: FAIL

The Wall on April 21, 2009 at 5:42 PM

And when the right went ballistic over this issue they swore it would help them win in 2006, but it did not…instead the Democrats took control of the House…and then they swore that being open to amnesty would hurt Obama, but it did not and it has not and there is no indication that it will. In survey after survey immigration is not even in the top 10 of things that really matter to people right now.

So by all means, go after McCain. Replace him with someone the Democrats can run right over.

Say what you will about McCain, he has always been a fiscal conservative and right now that is what we need the most. If Republicans run a hardliner against him, I just hope the guy can actually win the general election for a change.

Terrye on April 21, 2009 at 5:43 PM

Reporter: Senator McCain, is it true that if you retain your senate seat you will work to put a real fence along the border with Mexico rather than just some phony so called “virtual fence”? And a follow up question sir, if so what will the physical fence look like?
John McCain: That is a very good question and yes when I get another term as Mexico’s Arizowhatis’s senator I will work to put up a physical fence. What will it look like? Well it will run the full length of the border and have special security gates every 100 feet.
All the security gates will have on them:
1) Press one for Spanish (with a response of “Welcome Amigo, my country is your country and please take a free map to the wonderful plantation owner employer of your choice. Also please feel free to enroll you children in our schools and demand that they be taught in Spanish and please also feel free to avail yourself of all the free medical care that you want. If there are any Gringos in line in front of you, just go to the head of the line. If you want to fly any Mexican flags plese feel free to just take down an American one and use it’s flag pole”).
2) Press two for English (with a response of “#uck you! I know more than any of you damned bigoted nativist lazy madre fornicario gringos who do not want what is right for America del Norte!!!”).

MB4 on April 21, 2009 at 5:44 PM

MB4:

Are you happier with Obama? I mean really, people need to grow the hell up.

Terrye on April 21, 2009 at 5:44 PM

Palin would likely say no if McCain asked her…and with good reason.

But face it Palinistas, if not for Lindsey Graham’s husband, 95% of you wouldnt know Sarah Palin from any other bimbo.

So, while you are ahating on McCain, as I do, dont forget that he brought you your goddess and queen and the future of the republican party (in your demented minds).

The Wall on April 21, 2009 at 5:45 PM

Terrye on April 21, 2009 at 5:43 PM

Fiscal conservative my ass. TARP!

Big Orange on April 21, 2009 at 5:46 PM

Oh, and Rand Paul is looking at a 2010 Republican Senate run in Kentucky, so as good as it would be to get rid of the McCains, Paul and Schiff would be huge pickups for real conservatism in D.C, and that is where the money to change Washington should go.

The Dean on April 21, 2009 at 5:47 PM

I am so sick and tired of hearing people blame McCain for the behavior of is grown daughter. It is petty and stupid.

Terrye on April 21, 2009 at 5:40 PM

Seriously? I guess never mind that fact that he shares her views, huh?

For years and years and years we had a virtual open border in Arizona. It was always that way. Now, people want it fixed, fine, but they want it fixed yesterday and they want to blame people like McCain for the fact that it was ever open in the first place. Never mind the fact that it was the same damn border for 140 years and no one did crap about it.

Please just go away with your nonsense. McCain has actively campaigned for amnesty and open borders for all of his “friends” for years. Please take your head out of your behind.

Gregor on April 21, 2009 at 5:47 PM

You do know that if Goldwater had been alive, he would have made some pompous endorsement of Obama on The Daily Show, right?

Speedwagon82 on April 21, 2009 at 5:35 PM

Wrong.Wrong.Wrong. He would have endorsed Rudy Guiliani.

portlandon on April 21, 2009 at 5:47 PM

MB4:

Are you happier with Obama? I mean really, people need to grow the hell up.

Terrye on April 21, 2009 at 5:44 PM

I prefer my milkshakes with neither 10 nor 20 scoops of $hit, but to each his own I suppose. Bon Appetit.

MB4 on April 21, 2009 at 5:48 PM

Big Orange:

McCain is much one of our own as you are. The man has been elected to office by the people of the state of Arizona for years. Who and what gives you the right to decide who is one of our own?

Thus far the only thing this entire idiotic vandetta has accomplished is to help people like Obama win power in this country and people like Obama are totally in favor of amnesty. I mean real, honest to God total amnesty. So if it matters to people half as much as they claim it does, then they should try and not make it easier for Obama to get his way than it already is.

Now if this guy can actually win a primary and then win a general election, fine, good for him. But I don’t much like the idea of handing another state to the Democrats.

Terrye on April 21, 2009 at 5:49 PM

Loser McCain’s off the hook to keep any POTUS conservative campaign promises. Progressive bffe Allahpundit figures he has a chance with Meghan.

Sidekicks aside, without the candidates’ records out for comparison, there’s no reason to dump McCain for an inexperienced and unknown entity.

If anyone, the well known J.D. Hayworth should run against McCain on the GOP ticket. There may be others; and there’s time to tell.

I noticed that Hayworth’s former seat held by the “grandfatherly” (D) Harry Mitchell is now being highly contested as well. AZ Mitchell IS a fiscal conservative, and shouldn’t lose to some leftist.

Eventually, as Cornyn suggested re: Specter as known vs. unknown politician, be careful what you wish for, because you might not get it.

maverick muse on April 21, 2009 at 5:50 PM

MB4:

Fine. Whatever. But the point is for all the bravado, hardliners do not win elections. Maybe that will change. But until it does maybe you need to wonder how to change that.

Terrye on April 21, 2009 at 5:50 PM

you wouldnt know Sarah Palin from any other bimbo.

The Wall on April 21, 2009 at 5:45 PM

Class.

Clean up in Aisle PALIN.

portlandon on April 21, 2009 at 5:51 PM

Gregor:

Who says McCain shares all her views? As a matter of fact I heard that he refused to defend her. The point is that Ronald Reagan would not be forced to bear the burden for his son, nor would Buckley be forced to be responsible for his son. These are grown people we are talking about, not children.

And what nonsense? McCain is not responsible for the fact that the United States had an open border for decades. I am not saying he did not support comprehensive immigration reform, but if someone had bothered to concern themselves with this problem decades ago..we would not be dealing with it today. And no one did…and that includes Ronald Reagan.

So making it all McCain’s fault is just ridiculous. In fact that is nonsense.

Terrye on April 21, 2009 at 5:54 PM

And btw Palin supports immigration reform herself.

Terrye on April 21, 2009 at 5:55 PM

Are you happier with Obama? I mean really, people need to grow the hell up.

Terrye on April 21, 2009 at 5:44 PM

McShame was the one who kept saying what a great guy BHO was. He almost did campaign commercials for the guy. ANd McShame hasn’t apologized for that idiocy. He should, at least, have called that guy who expressed his worry that BHO was a socialist while McShame told him how decent of a guy the idiot messiah was and that no one should be worried about the kid from Indonesia occupying the White House.

progressoverpeace on April 21, 2009 at 5:55 PM

Who says McCain shares all her views? As a matter of fact I heard that he refused to defend her. The point is that Ronald Reagan would not be forced to bear the burden for his son, nor would Buckley be forced to be responsible for his son. These are grown people we are talking about, not children.

Personally, I’m not blaming him for his daughter’s opinions.

I’m simply saying … he’s getting up there in years ya know and … I say give him more quality time to spend with his young daughter. I’m looking out for his (and her) welfare.

John McCain is a war hero … and he’s done enough for his country. And quite frankly – we need him to stop doing more.

HondaV65 on April 21, 2009 at 5:56 PM

McCain is much one of our own as you are. The man has been elected to office by the people of the state of Arizona for years. Who and what gives you the right to decide who is one of our own?

Thus far the only thing this entire idiotic vandetta has accomplished is to help people like Obama win power in this country and people like Obama are totally in favor of amnesty. I mean real, honest to God total amnesty. So if it matters to people half as much as they claim it does, then they should try and not make it easier for Obama to get his way than it already is.

Now if this guy can actually win a primary and then win a general election, fine, good for him. But I don’t much like the idea of handing another state to the Democrats.

Terrye on April 21, 2009 at 5:49 PM

If Ted Kennedy put an R by his name would he be one of us too? I’m tired of this lesser of two evils crap. McCain, Graham and many others like them are what is wrong. I would rather lose the seat then put the problem back in power. If we never remove them, we’ll always have a bunch of RINO’s. I pulled a lever for him in the presidential election and felt as guilty as I ever have. It will never happen again.

Big Orange on April 21, 2009 at 5:56 PM

Meg McCain: From Plus-sized Princess to Big Fat Political Liability. Now do the McCain fans see why she’s getting all that face time on TV? Give you a hint, CNN and NBC News sure as hell aren’t trying to weaken a possibly fillibuster proof Dem majority in the Senate.

See in her mind:

SHE went to Columbia, dad just went to that school for baby killers at Annapolis (like, her sociology professor totally told her so! She forgives daddy for his war crimes though, those were, like, soooo Reagan’s fault, or something…) so she’s, like, waaaaaaaay, smarter than him and, like, will TOTALLY get him elected governor or whatever, y’know! See, at Columbia, she learned how to be cool and EVERYBODY knows COOL wins elections, okay? Like, just look at the people who don’t like her daddy! Soooo NOT cool, okay? Like, they don’t even own beach houses, like seriously! And the parties they throw? They throw tea parties! Like, who wants to drink tea, right? What-ever! She’s, like, SOOOO going to get daddy re-elected president next year. She went to Columbia AND she’s cool which means she’s like your social better or something.

And in the minds of GOP primary voters in AZ:

Hey, Johnny, remember when you called us a bunch of racists?

Which, if the old man hasn’t totally lost it will equal:

“Meg, honey, remember when I told you you could do anything you put your mind to? Honey, I severly overestimated your inellectual capabilities. Please, for the love of God, shut the hell up. You’re not helping. Of course, maybe I shouldn’t have called the party base a bunch of racists…SOMEHOW THIS IS PALIN’S FAULT!!!”

SuperCool on April 21, 2009 at 5:57 PM

The Wall on April 21, 2009 at 5:45 PM

You’re full of crap, newbie.

We were talking about Sarahcuda, and other conservative women, as potential VP picks long before McCain woke up.

davidk on April 21, 2009 at 5:57 PM

A conservative cannot win. Only the GOP candidate least offensive to leftists can win.

Then explain how the Republicans took back Congress in 1994. It sure as hell wasn’t from running as Democrat-lite, which incidentally is how they lost it twelve years later.

Democrats must just love this. Once again Republicans turn on their own, eat their own.

What you call eating their own I call a healthy debate between half-assed statists like McCain and true limited government individualists (grassroots organizations, alternative media, and yes, even Ron Paul moonbats).

The real threat to the Republican party isn’t infighting, it’s the statist contingent that refuses to oppose President Teleprompter or the lunatics in Congress, and instead tries to negotiate with the opposing party the speed at which we’re heading into the brick wall.

The Democratic Party is united in turning us into a stagnant, Euro-socialist hellhole. That’s a hell of a lot more worrisome than Republican infighting.

TheMightyMonarch on April 21, 2009 at 5:57 PM

HotAir has archived the episode from the Minuteman volunteer border fence building reporting misappropriated/lost funds by the leader at that time.

Who was that?

Chris Simcox, the founder of the Minuteman Civil Defense Corps

Is the “Minuteman Civil Defense Corps” a reorganization of the initial Minuteman group of anti-ILLEGAL immigration citizen volunteers that GWB, silver spoon in mouth, referenced as vigilantes?

maverick muse on April 21, 2009 at 5:57 PM

I hate agreeing with the trolls but the GOP doesn’t have the luxury of purging someone with an 82% lifetime ACU rating. And if ideological purity is the goal, the following should all be targetted ahead of McCain.

Murkowski
Shelby
Lugar
Snowe
Collins
Cochran
Gregg
Voinovich
Specter

Ponz on April 21, 2009 at 5:58 PM

I would rather lose the seat –Big Orange

…that’s another load of crap, asshat.

maverick muse on April 21, 2009 at 5:59 PM

Hey, I wasn’t defending Romney. I only mentioned McCain almost lost to Romney in the presidential primary in Arizona.
I am no fan of Romney nor McCain. They are both losers of the establishment.

jencab on April 21, 2009 at 6:00 PM

Conclusion: FAIL

The Wall on April 21, 2009 at 5:42 PM

Conclusion: No se preocupe de la cadencia, senor Muro, apenas quitan su cabeza de su trasero.

MB4 on April 21, 2009 at 6:00 PM

The real threat to the Republican party is … the statist contingent that refuses to oppose President Teleprompter or the lunatics in Congress, and instead tries to negotiate with the opposing party the speed at which we’re heading into the brick wall.

TheMightyMonarch on April 21, 2009 at 5:57 PM

Got it.

maverick muse on April 21, 2009 at 6:02 PM

Do you remember long ago the sweep of your deeds
The sound of them strumming the sky?
But now when I listen, the melody’s changed
Your words only whisper goodbye
I don’t want to morn when I think of you
But now whenever you speak John McCain, I do

PercyB on April 21, 2009 at 6:03 PM

John McCain is a war hero … and he’s done enough for his country. And quite frankly – we need him to stop doing more.

HondaV65 on April 21, 2009 at 5:56 PM

Otherwise, the gift that won’t stop giving, from war hero to Barbie.

maverick muse on April 21, 2009 at 6:04 PM

Ponz on April 21, 2009 at 5:58 PM

Yes, they SHOULD be targeted… none of these folks should get a free pass from their constituents…

The Party has to get off this meme that only incumbents can win… because it has been shown NOT to work.

The Electorate is angry enough that I would bet that if they put up an entire new slate of FISCAL CON Candidates, no incumbents at all… that they would end up with MORE seats than if they run incumbents.

Romeo13 on April 21, 2009 at 6:04 PM

Ponz on April 21, 2009 at 5:58 PM

Don’t forget that the biggest death blow to the GOP was dealt by the Shamnesty, which was all McShame. No one did more damage to the GOP, or to the right, in general, than him.

I don’t care what his ACU rating is. If McCain hadn’t tried to shove shamnesty down our throats (several times) then the whole political situation would be different. He killed the right, almost on his own.

Nothing comes close to the damage done by the shamnesty. Nothing.

progressoverpeace on April 21, 2009 at 6:05 PM

And btw Palin supports immigration reform herself.

Terrye on April 21, 2009 at 5:55 PM

Immigration reform does not necessitate the legalization of illegal aliens. One attribute Palin has is balancing fiscal conservatism with social.

maverick muse on April 21, 2009 at 6:06 PM

Terrye

If McCain is no longer obligated to any campaign rhetorical promises made to conservatives, then grant Palin the same courtesy you apply to John.

maverick muse on April 21, 2009 at 6:08 PM

Voinovich isn’t running he’s retiring at the end of his term,so take him off your list.

tee866 on April 21, 2009 at 6:08 PM

Me mucho ♥ Juan McCain.

NoBordersJose on April 21, 2009 at 6:09 PM

I prefer J.D. Hayworth, but anyone but McCain will do. I’m tired of being stabbed in the back by sir John. John just go away we’ve had enough of your particular brand of politics.

jainphx on April 21, 2009 at 6:13 PM

Translation of McCain’s suck up to La Raza:

While John McCain’s lips move this afternoon during his speech to the Race’s open-borders lovefest, let me serve as your interpreter:

MCCAIN: My friends, you are right. Those people who killed my shamnesty bill have ill intentions. They are bigots, just like my friend Lindsay Graham told you they were when he spoke before you two years ago.

My friends, I don’t want to talk about securing the border any more than you do. But trust me, when the “border” is “secure” (wink, wink, nudge, nudge), then we’ll do what we all want to do: Formalize our Sanctuary Nation. Rejoice that illegal aliens are serving in the military. And sanctimoniously demonize and marginalize all those pesky bigots who keep obsessing about immigration enforcement and national security. I’m as committed to peddling sob-story platitudes and whitewashing your ethnic nationalism as you are! (What was that about the 15 things about The Race you should know? Shhhhhhhhhhh!)

Just work with me here, ok? Brother Obama may have marched with you at the Chicago May Day illegal alien parade. But I have a lifetime commitment to Hispandering! And you have showered with me with honors for my open-borders work.

Remember?

They don’t call me La Raza’s voice in Washington for nothing.

- Michelle Malkin

MB4 on April 21, 2009 at 6:14 PM

Democrats must just love this. Once again Republicans turn on their own, eat their own.

Terrye on April 21, 2009 at 5:37 PM

Do recall, McCain set himself apart from Republicans. McCain named himself a maverick for setting himself apart from his Republican senators and congressmen. McCain designated himself the “bipartisan” envoy, documenting every jot and tittle of his non-compliance with the Republican platform in his landmark (and unconstitutional) legislation.

And for the record, the GOP put McCain on the POTUS general ticket; and Republicans were the only ones voting for McCain. THAT does not qualify as turning on our own.

McCain ["I hope that Obama succeeds" to convert everything into Obama's World] needs to graciously return the favors to the Republican Party. Either vote strictly conservative in his remaining last days on earth, or retire, hopefully endorsing J.D. Hayworth to take on Goldwater’s mantle on Capitol Hill.

THAT would be a class act.

maverick muse on April 21, 2009 at 6:18 PM

I hate agreeing with the trolls but the GOP doesn’t have the luxury of purging someone with an 82% lifetime ACU rating. And if ideological purity is the goal, the following should all be targetted ahead of McCain.

I say, better to set yourself up as a small but loud opposing minority party than negotiating with those whose definition of bipartisanship is capitulation to their agenda. Let the Democrats own it, and when it all comes crashing down even the MSM won’t be able to ignore it.

Not only that, but we’re dealing with a press that will only give positive press coverage to a Republican when they oppose their own. McCain had plenty of friends in the press until he had to run against the popular new kid.

To me this is like trying to negotiate with Iran over the fate of Israel. One side wants the other destroyed, exactly where is the acceptable middle ground located?

TheMightyMonarch on April 21, 2009 at 6:19 PM

McCain-Feingold

Punchenko on April 21, 2009 at 6:20 PM

Captain amnesty must go. Lets get behind the challenger.

dogsoldier on April 21, 2009 at 6:21 PM

Juan’s got to go. He’s done nothing but damage to conservative interests. If Simcox does lose to an actual Democrat, at least the Republicans won’t have to answer for their liberalism.

Sign of the Dollar on April 21, 2009 at 6:24 PM

McCain is not the worst thing possible. Obama is. But to the extent that McCain enables Obama, McCain makes himself the worst thing possible.

You see Obama. You see Napolitano. OBVIOUSLY, there are worse politicians in the world by far (living or owning property in Arizona) than McCain.

maverick muse on April 21, 2009 at 6:25 PM

HotAir has archived the episode from the Minuteman volunteer border fence building reporting misappropriated/lost funds by the leader at that time.

Who was that?

Chris Simcox, the founder of the Minuteman Civil Defense Corps

maverick muse on April 21, 2009 at 5:57 PM

That’s incorrect information and you might want to be careful with that. You might find yourself open for a lawsuit.

The leader charged with that was Jim Gilchrist and he’s now the leader of the Minutemen Project. Chris Simcox is the leader of the Minuteman Civil Defense Corps.

Gregor on April 21, 2009 at 6:27 PM

Senators are the new Popes. They all want to die in office.

Speedwagon82 on April 21, 2009 at 6:28 PM

John McCain is in my opinion our greatest living political leader. And it is a disgrace that he be challenged in a primary by some “put ‘em all on a bus’ type

DarkKnight3565 on April 21, 2009 at 6:28 PM

I honestly think McCain could retire and should. He should have been preparing someone to take his place.

AnninCA on April 21, 2009 at 4:48 PM

He hasn’t? Why do you think his ditz sow daughter has been out there cruising the daytime TV circuit?

Sign of the Dollar on April 21, 2009 at 6:29 PM

mverick muse:

McCain set himself apart from other politicians, that was what the maverick thing was supposed to be about. In fact, Palin did the same thing.

If this guy can win the general, then fine, let him win..I think it should be up to the people of Arizona. I just do not want to throw away a Senate seat right now.

Terrye on April 21, 2009 at 6:30 PM

The 1964 Goldwater would have been anti-Obama all the way, but the 70s and disappointment with Nixon made him more liberal.

Speedwagon82 on April 21, 2009 at 6:33 PM

I used to think that we needed to vote for the lesser of two evils but not anymore. All you get is the lesser evil siding with the supreme evil.

We need to get rid of all of these finger wetting politicians and let the chips fall where they may. The American people will “get it” eventually. It looks like things will get worse before they get better and the democrats should own this disaster.

Vince on April 21, 2009 at 6:41 PM

I’d hate to see one of the senate’s staunchest advocates of fiscal responsibility lose his seat to a Democrat over some quixotic protest vote.

RightOFLeft on April 21, 2009 at 5:28 PM

If Juan’s amnesty pet project ever gets through it will give the statists a permanent supermajority and forever change our government and culture. It’s all about mass importation of an un-educated voting bloc that doesn’t understand the American way of life, embraces class warfare and Marxist economics and will drain the nation of its wealth by sucking down entitlements.

It’s hardly a small issue.

Sign of the Dollar on April 21, 2009 at 6:43 PM

Well, if McLame can let himself get beat by an inexperienced, pathetic black boy, he needs to be replaced, and quick.

Cybergeezer on April 21, 2009 at 6:44 PM

John McCain is in my opinion our greatest living political leader. And it is a disgrace that he be challenged in a primary by some “put ‘em all on a bus’ type

DarkKnight3565 on April 21, 2009 at 6:28 PM

That’s probably because you’re a liberal troll or an AllahRepublican.

Gregor on April 21, 2009 at 6:50 PM

Well, if McLame can let himself get beat by an inexperienced, pathetic black boy, he needs to be replaced, and quick.

Cybergeezer on April 21, 2009 at 6:44 PM

Uh … if this person doesn’t get banned, nobody ever should.

Gregor on April 21, 2009 at 6:50 PM

Oh boy, Allah, sometimes I think you just like stirring up another round of “if we only had a REAL conservative last year” mania from the frothing dittoheads. If this keeps up I might have to get the Jacksonville Sheriffs Office to issue a supeona… :)

Squid Shark on April 21, 2009 at 6:56 PM

Sign of the Dollar on April 21, 2009 at 6:43 PM

Our current immigration policy is amnesty. McCain-Kennedy was an improvement over the current policy, pathetic as that is. McCain’s problem is that he won’t lie to you about what it would take to actually stop illegal immigration. As an Arizonan who cares deeply about the problems illegal immigration creates, I’ll happily vote for John McCain. The fact that he bucks the Republican approach to an illusion of border control only endears him to me more.

RightOFLeft on April 21, 2009 at 6:59 PM

700 kidnappings in Phoenix in the past 2 years.

McCain pushed to keep borders open.

Illegals taking jobs from Arizonans during depression.

McCain is toast! Adios Juan.

omnipotent on April 21, 2009 at 7:00 PM

Uh … if this person doesn’t get banned, nobody ever should.

Gregor on April 21, 2009 at 6:50 PM

No doubt.

Barry is mulatto. Let’s not paint with such broad strokes.

omnipotent on April 21, 2009 at 7:15 PM

Isn’t this the douchebag who endorsed Mike Huckabee, without knowing about the Huckster’s pro-immigrant stances?

Thanks a lot, Simcox. You let Huckabee claim he was strong against illegal immigration & insinuate the Minutemen endorsed him.

bigred on April 21, 2009 at 7:27 PM

The Moby brain trust is still ranting about “purging RINO’s” I see. (The democrats love it when the GOP turns on itself)

Funny how some supposed conservatives can justify electing democrat socialists and traitors. No one is that stupid, they must be liars.

Boxy_Brown on April 21, 2009 at 7:31 PM

Terrye on April 21, 2009 at 5:43 PM

You say this about a man who:
A) Voted for TARP
B) AUTHORED the McCain/Feingold Bill
C) supported Amnesty
D) Back stabbed his own party even when they fell out of power.

The man’s a traitor to Conservatism in all forms. Granted: Obama won, but there’s at least some justice that McCain isn’t president. We were practically choosing what kind of traitor we wanted in office.

The story about the 2008 elections can be summed up as thus: two empty suits were running against each other and we voted for the flashier one handing out 20 dollar bills.
I hope he fails miserably.

Chaz706 on April 21, 2009 at 7:32 PM

RightOFLeft on April 21, 2009 at 6:59 PM

There’s a real easy way to stop and reverse illegal immigration: stop handing them money!

No Scholarships.
No free health care.
No Jobs.

They will leave. I promise you that.

Chaz706 on April 21, 2009 at 7:35 PM

Fine. Whatever. But the point is for all the bravado, hardliners do not win elections. Maybe that will change. But until it does maybe you need to wonder how to change that.

Terrye on April 21, 2009 at 5:50 PM

Yah, running the ‘moderate’ old coot worked out real well, didn’t it? He even lost Virginia. Maybe you need to wonder about that.

MB4 on April 21, 2009 at 7:49 PM

The 1964 Goldwater would have been anti-Obama all the way, but the 70s and disappointment with Nixon made him more liberal libertarian.

Speedwagon82 on April 21, 2009 at 6:33 PM

MB4 on April 21, 2009 at 7:52 PM

Ah yes the guy who said (sources below)

Two months later, in a speech to the California Coalition on Immigration Reform, a hate group whose leader, Barbara Coe, routinely refers to Mexicans as “savages,” Simcox offered a dire warning to his audience.
“Take heed of our weapons because we’re going to defend our borders by any means necessary,” he said. “There’s something very fishy going on at the border. The Mexican army is driving American vehicles — but carrying Chinese weapons. I have personally seen what I can only believe to be Chinese troops.”

or

Simcox speaks of sovereignty, the Pledge of Allegiance and the rule of law, but his body language is all about the gun. Sooner or later he’s going to
use it, he wants everybody to know, in a showdown with the illegal immigrants and Mexican drug dealers he believes are ruining the United States.
“These are enemies who are wrecking our economy,” he says, his eyes shiny with emotion. “This is about national security.” If Simcox dies in a
blaze of border gunfire, so be it, he says. “Damn them. That’s how much I care about my country.”

or this account of his calm demeanor

Simcox’s life in Los Angeles started falling apart when he began exhibiting bizarre behavior about 3 year’s ago. Apparently he became a delusional paranoiac at the same time he started to talk loudly about a “Mexican conspiracy” to take over Los Angeles. His wife became concerned when he started taking their 13 year old son to the shooting range in order to prepare him for an “upcoming race war.” His wife eventually divorced him and fought a successfull court battle to take custody of her son. At the same time, because of his increasingly irrational racist behavior, his private educational consulting business collapsed.

http://www.aztlan.net/simcoxvigilante.htm
http://www.latinamericanstudies.org/immigration/borderline.htm
http://www.splcenter.org/news/item.jsp?pid=168

Call it a hunch but I would imagine he has a difficult time garnering any Hispanic or Black votes.

Bradky on April 21, 2009 at 7:53 PM

MB4 on April 21, 2009 at 7:49 PM

Virginia has been slipping for a long time. So has NC and FL. Combined with a higher black turnout, bam.

Maybe you should ponder that!

Squid Shark on April 21, 2009 at 8:02 PM

This is the kind of change I can get behind! The guy probably dosn’t stand a chance, I’m for him to just be a pain in McShamnesty’s ass!

jwp1964 on April 21, 2009 at 8:06 PM

Folks, let me ask you a question. If you were a QB with a limited but steady running game that would pick up yards but not maximize the score or a passing game, when utilized in a bold manner could yield great returns and upset your opponent, but also allow your opponent more opportunities to take advantage of your mistakes, what approach would you rather take?

For me I would rather chance winning by a 38-35 score than probably lose 14-10.

For those of you who say you’d rather a RINO or moderate Republican run for office you’re saying you’re content to lose 14-10. As for me I’d rather venture forth and win 38-35. In addition it would be a hell of a lot more exciting to watch.

technopeasant on April 21, 2009 at 8:09 PM

Call it a hunch but I would imagine he has a difficult time garnering any Hispanic or Black votes.

Bradky on April 21, 2009 at 7:53 PM

The question would be, what would McCain do in reaction? Adjust any position? Introduce a bill?

Pressure leads to movement. If the coefficient of friction is low enough.

Spirit of 1776 on April 21, 2009 at 8:10 PM

Say what you will about McCain, he has always been a fiscal conservative and right now that is what we need the most.

Terrye on April 21, 2009 at 5:43 PM

We need “fiscal conservatives” who voted for TARP — a ludicrously ineffective trillion dollar boondoggle that’s already ripe with fraud and abuse? I don’t think so.

And yes, AP, Arizona did elect Napolitano twice, but that was because the Republican opposition was so weak, not because the state has turned blue. If the Republicans here could get a decent candidate to challenge McCain and beat him in the primary, he/she would likely win the general also.

AZCoyote on April 21, 2009 at 8:15 PM

in a state that’s already blue enough to have elected Napolitano governor.

This is what happens when you comment without context. She barely won running against a scandal ridden GOP slime ball. That does not make you a Blue state. However look at the 2008 Presidential election McCain only got 49.3%. I think most of AZ is sick of him or are we Blue.

hawkeye on April 21, 2009 at 8:22 PM

The question would be, what would McCain do in reaction? Adjust any position? Introduce a bill?

Pressure leads to movement. If the coefficient of friction is low enough.

Spirit of 1776 on April 21, 2009 at 8:10 PM

My point is not about McCain or to convince those who don’t like him to support him. The point is that i am quite sure there are numerous more stable and respectable people who represent your views relative to a McCain alternative. I don’t for a minute think that the majority of the commentariat at HA subscribes to the types of beliefs or claims that Simcox makes.
the party drummed out Duke many years ago for his unacceptable beliefs. While drumming out may be over the top for Simcox I do think there are people better suited than him to challenge McCain.

Bradky on April 21, 2009 at 8:26 PM

I do think there are people better suited than him to challenge McCain.

Bradky on April 21, 2009 at 8:26 PM

I won’t argue that. I’m not very familar with him. I would like to see more primary challenges, but otherwise, no argument.

Spirit of 1776 on April 21, 2009 at 8:28 PM

“Bear in mind that if he does upset McCain, the seat will almost certainly go blue in the general.”

I wouldn’t bet the farm just quite yet……..

………… anyone for some more “TEA”?

Seven Percent Solution on April 21, 2009 at 8:32 PM

if he does upset McCain, the seat will almost certainly go blue in the general.

Exactly. I’ll vote for McCain, but I won’t enjoy it.

jgapinoy on April 21, 2009 at 8:34 PM

This is what happens when you comment without context. She barely won running against a scandal ridden GOP slime ball.

Which GOP candidate are you referring to? I think both of her opponents were honorable men.

jgapinoy on April 21, 2009 at 8:35 PM

I think most of AZ is sick of him or are we Blue.

hawkeye on April 21, 2009 at 8:22 PM

McCain has high poll #s here.
We’re not blue. GOP legislature & 2 GOP senators. Also, a slight majority of our congressmen are GOP.

jgapinoy on April 21, 2009 at 8:38 PM

I want you to imagine a Republican Party that FIGHTS. I want you to imagine a Republican Party that is full of young elected Conservatives who oppose the Communization of this Nation. I want you to imagine a Republican Party full of Conservatives who don’t back down … and don’t stick their finger into the wind to determine which way the political wind is blowing. I want you to imagine a Republican Party of Conservatives who are FEARED by their Liberal counterparts. FEARED because they don’t adhere to the “niceness” which characterized the Bush Administration – unable to even make a coherent defense for itself until it’s out of office.

A Party of Conservatives for the modern era – who recognize that Liberals are Marxists and opposes every inch of ground they try to take.

Now I want you to imagine John McCain leading that.

Uhm … yeah … neither can I folks.

Thank you for your service to our country John McCain – you’ve done a great job. It’s now time to pass the torch to the new Conservative Guerrilla fighters who will bring us back into power.

HondaV65 on April 21, 2009 at 8:58 PM

HondaV65 on April 21, 2009 at 8:58 PM

Fair enough, this racist, wacko douchebag is not the one to replace him.

Squid Shark on April 21, 2009 at 9:02 PM

It’s time. The war hero has served us all well enough. On the personal side he gave more than most Americans ever in our history.

Enough though, it’s time to get some new, fresh blood to represent Arizona.

It might get the daughter off the prime time trail as well.

Won’t that be nice.

FireBlogger on April 21, 2009 at 9:14 PM

I think J.D. Hayworth might put his hat into the ring. I would be more apt to see him oust Juan McCain than Simcox.

HornetSting on April 21, 2009 at 9:19 PM

Bear in mind that if he does upset McCain, the seat will almost certainly go blue in the general.

But if McCain wins, is that really red?

Tzetzes on April 21, 2009 at 9:29 PM

Bear in mind that if he does upset McCain, the seat will almost certainly go blue in the general.

And how will this change anything? Liberal is liberal regardless of whether it’s a D or an R.

angryed on April 21, 2009 at 9:30 PM

At least we won’t get blamed for the mess the democrats are making.

HornetSting on April 21, 2009 at 9:56 PM

As a Mexican in Tucson AZ, this guy doesn’t stand a chance. I wish it were different but the McCain machine owns this state.

The political system is so damn corrupt. This fraud can win despite being an absolute jerk.

True_King on April 21, 2009 at 9:56 PM

I think J.D. Hayworth might put his hat into the ring. I would be more apt to see him oust Juan McCain than Simcox.

HornetSting on April 21, 2009 at 9:19 PM

Probably a better choice. There is no way Simcox can win. He has way too many problems with his past and then there’s Alan Keyes and ask him about Jim Campbell. No matter how much you want him to win it isn’t going to happen. As I said earlier, to oppose McCain we need a candidate with an immaculate background, experience, money, and someone with more than one issue to run on. No way Simcox can do it.

Deanna on April 21, 2009 at 10:04 PM

Terrye- relax we here in Arizona know what were doing. McCain will lose in primary, but we will hold the seat with a CONSERVATIVE.

jainphx on April 21, 2009 at 10:20 PM

jainphx on April 21, 2009 at 10:20 PM

The delusion of this silliness continues to amaze.

Squid Shark on April 21, 2009 at 10:28 PM

Fair enough, this racist, wacko douchebag is not the one to replace him.

Squid Shark on April 21, 2009 at 9:02 PM

Hmmm … ya know … the way you describe his opponent – I really LIKE him. Using the language of the left really doesn’t help your argument. Remember – everyone on this blog is racist – according to the MSM.

HondaV65 on April 21, 2009 at 10:39 PM

Who cares if the guy can’t win? Throw him $50 bucks for the effort and send McCain a message.

Or … continue to support RINOs and send the message that we’ll always compromise our values and vote for the lesser of two evils.

Seems a no-brainer to me. If McCain gets another term – he ought to have to work hard to get it.

HondaV65 on April 21, 2009 at 10:42 PM

HondaV65 on April 21, 2009 at 10:39 PM

So….you like racists? This guys rhetoric lends itself strongly to turner diary stuff. I am not “using the rhetoric of the left” I am against illegal immigration quite strongly.

This guy is not all there and not the kind of person I would want representing my state in the halls of congress.

Squid Shark on April 21, 2009 at 10:43 PM

BTW, Honda, good to sea another Squid on this board.

Squid Shark on April 21, 2009 at 10:45 PM

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