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Obama flip-flops on potential torture prosecutions

posted at 1:33 pm on April 21, 2009 by Ed Morrissey
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Jim Geraghty’s axiom continues to apply as another Barack Obama Position Expiration Date arrives.  After a series of rebuffs towards those who want war-crimes trials against Bush administration officials for allegedly approving torture, Obama reversed himself today and suggested that such trials might take place.  Jake Tapper gives the details:

President Obama suggested today that it remained a possibility that the Justice Department might bring charges against officials of the Bush administration who devised harsh interrogation policies that some see as torture. …

The Bush-era memos providing legal justifications for enhanced interrogation methods “reflected us losing our moral bearings.” The president said that he did not think it was “appropriate” to prosecute those CIA officers who “carried out some of these operations within the four corners of the legal opinions or guidance that had been provided by the White House.”

But in clear change from language he and members of his administration have used in the past, the president said that “with respect to those who formulated those legal decisions, I would say that is going to be more of a decision for the Attorney General within the parameters of various laws and I don’t want to prejudge that. I think that there are a host of very complicated issues involved there.”

Just yesterday, asked by a reporter as to why the administration was not seeking to “hold accountable” Bush administration lawyers who may have “twisted the law,” White House press secretary Robert Gibbs said, “the president is focused on looking forward, that’s why.”

And now he’s focused on the past?  If so, it may be because Obama decided that he couldn’t take any more heat from the far Left.  They’ve been wanting blood for years and expected to get it with a Democrat in the White House and Democrats controlling Capitol Hill.  Obama did a pretty good job of putting them off for three months, but apparently that’s the limit of his endurance.

In some ways, though, Obama put himself in an untenable position.  The self-proclaimed Constitutional scholar had argued all along that the US broke laws during interrogations, and made that point again when it released the Bush-era OLC memos.  In a nation of laws, how does one make that claim as President and not allow the supposed crimes to be probed?  Listening to the rhetoric, this flip-flop was entirely predictable.

Obama can open the door to prosecutions, but who will he prosecute?  He’ll find it difficult to go after the interrogators, who relied on some strange opinions from the normally-binding Office of Legal Counsel.  The prosecution can try undermining that by claiming it as a Nuremberg defense, but this wasn’t Nazi Germany and the OLC exists to give this kind of legal direction.  Interrogators relied on those interpretations in good faith.

That leaves George Tenet and the OLC attorneys, but they didn’t conduct the torture, and the OLC didn’t order the interrogations, either.  They responded to a request from the CIA to opine on the legality of the procedures.  Holder can prosecute Tenet, but then he’d also have to file charges against several members of Congress who were briefed on the procedures and never objected — including current Speaker Nancy Pelosi.  If Tenet would get prosecuted for ordering the interrogation techniques, then Pelosi and others would have to get prosecuted for being accessories in not taking action to stop them.

Obama had it right in the first place.  He made the decision to ban those procedures, and he should just keep looking forward.  If those interpretations were flawed, and I’d agree that at least some of them were, they’ve been withdrawn.


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Madness.

BadgerHawk on April 21, 2009 at 1:36 PM

He lost his base and reversed course.

Water boarding was designated as illegal by U.S. generals in Vietnam 40 years ago. A photograph that appeared in The Washington Post of a U.S. soldier involved in water boarding a North Vietnamese prisoner in 1968 led to that soldier’s severe punishment.

“The soldier who participated in water torture in January 1968 was court-martialed within one month after the photos appeared in The Washington Post, and he was drummed out of the Army,” recounted Darius Rejali, a political science professor at Reed College.

Earlier in 1901, the United States had taken a similar stand against water boarding during the Spanish-American War when an Army major was sentenced to 10 years of hard labor for water boarding an insurgent in the Philippines.

“Even when you’re fighting against belligerents who don’t respect the laws of war, we are obliged to hold the laws of war,” said Rejali. “And water torture is torture.”

http://abcnews.go.com/WNT/Investigation/story?id=1356870

getalife on April 21, 2009 at 1:37 PM

I think merely mentioning potentially prosecuting is damaging enough. Even if he doesn’t end up doing it in the end, the damage has been done. It makes America look weak.

Phooey.

Weebork on April 21, 2009 at 1:37 PM

Rush is right: If we get hit again, Barry owns it. Good lord.

Pasalubong on April 21, 2009 at 1:38 PM

He lied. It must be a day of the week with a “y” in it.

mankai on April 21, 2009 at 1:38 PM

bread and circuses for the moonbats

BuckNutty on April 21, 2009 at 1:40 PM

Release the memos showing what terrorist attacks we stopped due to information from the interrogations, boyo.

Realist on April 21, 2009 at 1:41 PM

Bush- waterboards are enemies
Obama- shakes their hands and gets down on his knees.

lavell12 on April 21, 2009 at 1:42 PM

If those interpretations were flawed, and I’d agree that at least some of them were, they’ve been withdrawn.

As Power Line pointed out this morning, by threatening to prosecute those who’s legal opinions differ from incoming Democrats, they are putting a shot across the bow of anyone who even thinks of working in a future Republican administration (assuming there ever is one), that if you do anything that the next Democratic administration disagrees with, you will be put on trial at great expense to yourself, total loss of reputation and perhaps a long jail time if they can get a highly partisan DC jury to agree with the prosecutors.

MarkTheGreat on April 21, 2009 at 1:43 PM

He’d better re-think his re-thinking. He’ll have at least as many things to answer for as his predecessor.

Mr. D on April 21, 2009 at 1:43 PM

getalife (2 days ago) – no more torture prosecutions.

getalife (moments from now) – good, prosecute

lorien1973 on April 21, 2009 at 1:44 PM

We will reach a breaking point with this man as President – the future is a crap shoot.

jake-the-goose on April 21, 2009 at 1:44 PM

All those involved in releasing the memos should be prosecuted. They are dangers to America. All of them.

progressoverpeace on April 21, 2009 at 1:44 PM

Hmmm…. also opens up a whole equal protection can of worms…

You cannot prosecute those who made legal opinions on somthing… while not prosecuting those who actualy did the dead.

But this is really all about appeasing the Left, while not having a shut down and mass resignations of the CIA.

And, on a more interesting note… its interesting that he does not want the CIA guys prosecuted, which DOES infringe on the independence of the Justice Department… while saying he IS open to going after politicians, but LEAVES that legal decision up to the Justice Department…

On one he makes a choice, on the other he votes “Present”, having it both ways on what is in reality, the same issue…

I’ve heard of Flip Flopping… but this is a Masterfull example of him trying to have it BOTH ways at the same time.

Romeo13 on April 21, 2009 at 1:44 PM

I would like to see the One answer this question:

Mr. President, if one of the detainess that you wish to release eventually makes his way to the U.S to launch an attack, would you prefer that someone else’s children die rather than your own?

maladapted on April 21, 2009 at 1:45 PM

If torture worked, why did they do it hundreds of times and where is obl? Why did they destroy the tapes?

cons want to prosecute illegals but not torture.

Can’t have it both ways cons.

Take a position for amnesty or prosecution.

getalife on April 21, 2009 at 1:45 PM

Do it.

Then the memos as to what sorts of attacks were stopped will be brought forward as evidence and Obowa will get his azz raked over the coals.

Bishop on April 21, 2009 at 1:45 PM

He lost his base and reversed course.

And if you dont think he’ll do it again, you’re a sucker.

Show trials, massive unemployment and $2 trillion dollar deficits will play real nicely for the Democrats next fall.

Chuck Schick on April 21, 2009 at 1:45 PM

It makes America look weak.

Phooey.

Weebork on April 21, 2009 at 1:37 PM

HIS mission here is accomplished.

BobMbx on April 21, 2009 at 1:46 PM

Obama – “To move forward, we cannot let ourselves be prisoners of past disagreements. I’m grateful that President Ortega did not blame me for things that happened when I was three months old. Too often, an opportunity to build a fresh partnership of the Americas has been undermined by stale debates. We’ve all heard these arguments before.”

Loxodonta on April 21, 2009 at 1:46 PM

When is Obama going to publicly side with the Spanish on this issue? 3….2…..1….

Spiritk9 on April 21, 2009 at 1:46 PM

Wow. This guy is betting his political future on the absence of further Islamist terror in this nation.

LibTired on April 21, 2009 at 1:47 PM

This is a threat to Cheney to back off…a shot across the bow.
It won’t work…

right2bright on April 21, 2009 at 1:47 PM

getalife on April 21, 2009 at 1:45 PM

I called it.

lorien1973 on April 21, 2009 at 1:44 PM

I’d be more impressed if it wasn’t so predictable.

lorien1973 on April 21, 2009 at 1:47 PM

Ed, be honest.
The President said he wasn’t going to allow prosection of agents following orders and “legally” defined procedures.
If Bybee and Yoo and other lawyers violated the law in crafting definitions of torture, they can be prosecuted, possibly disbarred. If medical personal violated their hippocratic oath I believe they can be prosecuted by the AMA.

strangelet on April 21, 2009 at 1:48 PM

Caving to the UN.

Firebird on April 21, 2009 at 1:49 PM

cons want to prosecute illegals but not torture.

Can’t have it both ways cons.

Take a position for amnesty or prosecution.

getalife on April 21, 2009 at 1:45 PM

But Obama supporting the converse….not prosecuting illegals but prosecuting those who torture. That makes total sense.

Gotcha.

lorien1973 on April 21, 2009 at 1:49 PM

Soon, once they pause to take a breath from their blind rush toward a disaster , POTUS and his administration, and the Democrats in Congress, are going to suddenly realize that they fully own the hole they have dug and are standing in. There will be no deniability available in the stark light of reality.

Yoop on April 21, 2009 at 1:49 PM

I can’t wait to go after Obama, Geithner, Pelosi, and Reid for their financial fraud when Obama’s out of office.

BuckeyeSam on April 21, 2009 at 1:49 PM

For all the threats to put Bush Administration officials on trial, I say frakking well BRING IT, bizitches! The impeachment, on much less shaky grounds, of Clinton only did good things for him. Just try. Try putting good people trying to protect this nation on trial and see if a gods-damned one of you could get elected dogcatcher in the following years. Quit threatening and do it, you lot of lily-livered slang-terms-for-femaile-genitalia.

Sekhmet on April 21, 2009 at 1:49 PM

The naive man-child is so transparent … tea parties got you down, throw a tantrum. Prosecute the former president.

Can’t wait for the prosecutions of Obama after he gets the boot. This is the kind of stuff third world tin horn dictators do, like Kenya and Indonesia …

tarpon on April 21, 2009 at 1:50 PM

I’d be more impressed if it wasn’t so predictable.

lorien1973 on April 21, 2009 at 1:47 PM

I posted it was a mistake not to prosecute. He lost the left on this issue. Can’t get reelected without the left.

getalife on April 21, 2009 at 1:50 PM

BTW, I wish Hot Air would separate the “green room” from the rest of the site. Not being allowed to comment there, now I have to pick and choose what I bother to even read.

Come on already. If it can’t attract people on it’s own, get rid of it. Mixing it in with the rest of HA is just irritating.

Spiritk9 on April 21, 2009 at 1:51 PM

“I think that there are a host of very complicated issues involved there.”

TRANSLATION: Those fucking lefties won’t shut up. Don’t they realize how many Democrats can get caught up in this? Those stupid shits can’t think beyond their noses. I’ll kick this over to Holder, let him take the heat. That way I can tell ‘em that “I tried”.

GarandFan on April 21, 2009 at 1:52 PM

getalife on April 21, 2009 at 1:45 PM

The lawyers were aksed for their interpretation of US law. Please explain how giving a client one’s interpretation of the law can be considered a violation of the United States criminal code, and of which section of that code.

Wethal on April 21, 2009 at 1:52 PM

I can’t wait to go after Obama, Geithner, Pelosi, and Reid for their financial fraud when Obama’s out of office.

BuckeyeSam on April 21, 2009 at 1:49 PM

Um, you’d have to find some other party, not the Republican party, to do this. Republicans always play nice.

myrenovations on April 21, 2009 at 1:52 PM

Cheney isn’t got to back off. He doesn’t need a job and he’s got millions to fund a defense with. Bring on the show trials!
release everything and let the cards fall Democrats.

But at least Obama has $100 million on hand to get things rolling.

Rocks on April 21, 2009 at 1:53 PM

Chavez and Castro are conservatives compared to this guy.

rplat on April 21, 2009 at 1:53 PM

getalife on April 21, 2009 at 1:50 PM

No you didn’t. You said explicitly “no more torture prosecutions” I called you on it the other day as well, but you conveniently ignored it.

Please write down your own spin so you don’t forget what you believe from day to day. Ok?

lorien1973 on April 21, 2009 at 1:53 PM

Caving to the UN.

Firebird on April 21, 2009 at 1:49 PM

Yes, they reminded him that it is illegal not to prosecute.

I think his lawyers agreed.

Tough spot for the President.

getalife on April 21, 2009 at 1:53 PM

If this prosecution happens then when the GOP takes control of Congress and Senate in 2010 they should impeach Obama.

lavell12 on April 21, 2009 at 1:53 PM

One more step toward criminalizing opposing political policy and practice. Not good.

petefrt on April 21, 2009 at 1:53 PM

Jerk off idiot.

Texyank on April 21, 2009 at 1:53 PM

getalife on April 21, 2009 at 1:45 PM

WTF?
Its pretty simple to me: Prosecute the illegals, and send them back home, deny them the opportunity to stay and suck up what resources and opportunites we have for our citizens and legal resident aliens. Allow the pursuit of the terrorists, utilizing whatever means are sanctioned. Is that so hard to understand?

ChicagoBlues on April 21, 2009 at 1:54 PM

shouldn’t we be pushing that Marc Theisen piece to show how absolutely insane this is?

if the Libs got their way, there would be thousands dead with a major crater in the ground in L.A.

jp on April 21, 2009 at 1:54 PM

lorien1973 on April 21, 2009 at 1:53 PM

I posted it was a mistake.

It was and he corrected.

He will probably admit he made a mistake.

getalife on April 21, 2009 at 1:55 PM

Spiritk9 on April 21, 2009 at 1:51 PM

Why can’t you comment in the Green Room?

Rocks on April 21, 2009 at 1:55 PM

If medical personal violated their hippocratic oath I believe they can be prosecuted by the AMA.

strangelet on April 21, 2009 at 1:48 PM

Care to supply the links to the laws that give the AMA the ability to prosecute. I wasn’t aware that the AMA was a judicial entity.

Yoop on April 21, 2009 at 1:55 PM

strangelet on April 21, 2009 at 1:48 PM

You must have a BIG a$$ because you pull an awful lot out of it.

jdkchem on April 21, 2009 at 1:55 PM

cons want to prosecute illegals but not torture.

Village idiot builds straw man in the square. Impressive.

Jaibones on April 21, 2009 at 1:55 PM

Welcome to the Bolshevik US. It only gets worse.

progressoverpeace on April 21, 2009 at 1:55 PM

If Bybee and Yoo and other lawyers violated the law in crafting definitions of torture, they can be prosecuted, possibly disbarred. If medical personal violated their hippocratic oath I believe they can be prosecuted by the AMA.

strangelet on April 21, 2009 at 1:48 PM

Um, now do you prosecute someone for writing a Legal OPINION?

Ever hear of this little thing called FREEDOM of SPEECH??

Giving poor advice can get them sent up to answer to the Legal Bar… but even they won’t nail you for being wrong (if they were).

Romeo13 on April 21, 2009 at 1:56 PM

I called it.

lorien1973 on April 21, 2009 at 1:47 PM

I called the sunrise this morning, you don’t see me braggin’ about it.

LibTired on April 21, 2009 at 1:56 PM

The prosecution can try undermining that by claiming it as a Nuremberg defense, but this wasn’t Nazi Germany and the OLC exists to give this kind of legal direction.

Hey, wait… The Left told me it was Nazi Germany, for eight long years!

I guarantee you the press would cover any such trial precisely like it were Nuremberg.

George Orwell on April 21, 2009 at 1:56 PM

“If torture worked, why did they do it hundreds of times…?”

Obviously it really wasn’t all that much “torture”.

GarandFan on April 21, 2009 at 1:56 PM

Obama had it right in the first place. He made the decision to ban those procedures, and he should just keep looking forward. If those interpretations were flawed, and I’d agree that at least some of them were, they’ve been withdrawn.

flawed? did you read the rest of the memos?

this stuff is how we found out the real connection between AQ and the Saudi’s, we were directed towards 3 Princes who not long afterwards ended up Dead

jp on April 21, 2009 at 1:56 PM

Its pretty simple to me: Prosecute the illegals, and send them back home, deny them the opportunity to stay and suck up what resources and opportunites we have for our citizens and legal resident aliens. Allow the pursuit of the terrorists, utilizing whatever means are sanctioned. Is that so hard to understand?

ChicagoBlues on April 21, 2009 at 1:54 PM

Prosecute bothg crimes or give them amnesty.

Make up your mind.

getalife on April 21, 2009 at 1:56 PM

Call out the thought police. If you think waterboarding is NOT torture, then you are guilty of a crime. Those lawyers just expressed their opinion on a legal issue. They may have been wrong, but since when has it been a crime to express an incorrect opinion in this country?

tommylotto on April 21, 2009 at 1:57 PM

He will probably admit he made a mistake.

getalife on April 21, 2009 at 1:55 PM

LOL…. Obama admit HE was wrong???? never gonna happen…

He only appologizes for OTHER people being wrong…

Romeo13 on April 21, 2009 at 1:57 PM

Spiritk9 on April 21, 2009 at 1:51 PM

Why can’t you comment in the Green Room?

BadgerHawk on April 21, 2009 at 1:57 PM

If torture worked, why did they do it hundreds of times and where is obl? Why did they destroy the tapes?

cons want to prosecute illegals but not torture.

Can’t have it both ways cons.

Take a position for amnesty or prosecution.

getalife on April 21, 2009 at 1:45 PM

They destroyed the tapes because people like you would want to prosecute for doing what they thought was right, you dumb bitch.

NathanG on April 21, 2009 at 1:57 PM

He will should probably admit he made is a mistake.

getalife on April 21, 2009 at 1:55 PM

That’s better!

jdkchem on April 21, 2009 at 1:57 PM

I posted it was a mistake not to prosecute. He lost the left on this issue. Can’t get reelected without the left.

getalife on April 21, 2009 at 1:50 PM

Another phony american zealously pines for the heads of actual Americans defending the country while whining for the safety of the enemies of the country.

Go ahead and prosecute them, motherf*ckers…go ahead.

It’s on.

ClassicCon on April 21, 2009 at 1:57 PM

getalife on April 21, 2009 at 1:55 PM

Hey Retard.

lorien1973 on April 21, 2009 at 1:58 PM

Yes, they reminded him that it is illegal not to prosecute.

I think his lawyers agreed.

Tough spot for the President.

getalife on April 21, 2009 at 1:53 PM

Oh boy, we might get a nasty letter or tantrum from those idiots.

ChicagoBlues on April 21, 2009 at 1:58 PM

I picked a hell of a day to quit drinking

Defector01 on April 21, 2009 at 1:58 PM

I vote for prosecuting all of the corrupt politicians, which is 9 out of 10 of them. Especially Pelosi.

Why only prosecute crimes related to torture? How about tax dodging, bribery, and destroying the Constitution?

kirkill on April 21, 2009 at 1:59 PM

Geez, every post today there’s a broken record playing in it. the same commenter. making the same. stupid. comments. on every. post. I enjoy HA but it’s really getting out of hand with the trolls monopolizing the comments and posting the same ones in 3 or 4 different places.

scalleywag on April 21, 2009 at 2:00 PM

I believe Barry will not prosecute because to do so, opens all kinds of doors to his and his administration’s activities. Who knows what will made public. I would imagine that the stakes would be so high, that everything and anything will be made public whether through a court of law or just as a leak. He won’t touch it.

bloggless on April 21, 2009 at 2:00 PM

“If torture worked, why did they do it hundreds of times…?

Well it takes only one time to get pregnant, but its a lot more fun to keep trying.

MDWNJ on April 21, 2009 at 2:00 PM

I can set my watch to his flip-flops. Letsee, only 6.594345678535 more hours till the next one.

Rightwingguy on April 21, 2009 at 2:00 PM

Can we prosecute Obama for murder because of his position on the Illinois Born Alive Infants Protection Act?

zmdavid on April 21, 2009 at 2:01 PM

Am I living in “upside down world”? This is a travesty. Prosecuting for what? No really, WHAT? Someone needs to tell me what exactly they would prosecute.

Frances on April 21, 2009 at 2:01 PM

Well it takes only one time to get pregnant, but its a lot more fun to keep trying.

MDWNJ on April 21, 2009 at 2:00 PM

While funny, the better answer is how bad can it be if you can do it to someone hundreds of times without any kind of lasting effect?

BadgerHawk on April 21, 2009 at 2:01 PM

Oh what a tangled web we weave when first we practice to deceive!
- Sir Walter Scott

MB4 on April 21, 2009 at 2:02 PM

He lost his base and reversed course.
getalife on April 21, 2009 at 1:37 PM

The problem w/Obama’s base it seems is that they’ll follow him no matter where he goes. The GOP’s base simply stays home if that happens.

Sadly it seems, YOU are a prime example of this.

Chaz706 on April 21, 2009 at 2:02 PM

The 4th of July is coming. It will be a good time to visit Washington D.C. Better to travel by automoble as one can travel at leasure and bring with one that brings comfort. This man at the head of our country has committed treason by the release of documents that aid and abed our enemies. First it is a violation of his oath of office which he never took seriously. Obama is opening a door that will prove to be a huge mistake for him and his Marxist allies. When the Republicans retake the majorities in both the house and senate in 2010, Obama’s days are numbered. He will be impeached and tried for treason.

Zelsdorf Ragshaft on April 21, 2009 at 2:02 PM

saying torture doesn’t work is absurd argument.

don’t beleive me? Then make it punishment for speeding and watch the cars start crawling

jp on April 21, 2009 at 2:02 PM

BadgerHawk on April 21, 2009 at 2:01 PM

It’s not torture if people are willing to demonstrate it on each other in an effort to protest it.

lorien1973 on April 21, 2009 at 2:02 PM

Can we prosecute Obama for murder because of his position on the Illinois Born Alive Infants Protection Act?

zmdavid on April 21, 2009 at 2:01 PM

Good idea! In fact, it might be illegal not to!

kirkill on April 21, 2009 at 2:02 PM

Barry must tread very carefully here. Remember almost half of the country did not vote for him. Talk about antagonizing an already polarized country.

bloggless on April 21, 2009 at 2:03 PM

lorien1973 on April 21, 2009 at 1:58 PM

I know.

This reversal killed my argument.

His “let’s move forward” did not work with the left.

getalife on April 21, 2009 at 2:03 PM

If Bybee and Yoo and other lawyers violated the law in crafting definitions of torture, they can be prosecuted, possibly disbarred. If medical personal violated their hippocratic oath I believe they can be prosecuted by the AMA.

strangelet on April 21, 2009 at 1:48 PM

The AMA is a voluntary organization. It has nothing to do with licensing doctors. That is done on the state level. As is attorney licensing. I’m licensed to practice law in two states, and have never (and will never) belong to the ABA (too left wing.)

What “law” (specifically what part of the US criminal code) did these men violate in their interpretations of “torture”? They were asked by their client for their interpretation and opinions. So they gave their opinions.

Wethal on April 21, 2009 at 2:03 PM

Obama’s a pig. I want him to fail. Obama failing is the only way to save America.

Blake on April 21, 2009 at 2:03 PM

While funny, the better answer is how bad can it be if you can do it to someone hundreds of times without any kind of lasting effect?

BadgerHawk on April 21, 2009 at 2:01 PM

Ah, very good BadgerH, didn’t think of that angle. Have to get my mind out of the gutter.

MDWNJ on April 21, 2009 at 2:03 PM

I said it before and I’ll say it again, if the left is so big on holding some kind of show trial, why didn’t they do it when the evil Bush,Cheney & Co. were still in the White House? Could have humiliated them big time. They didn’t because they know things that we don’t, and maybe keeping those secrets is the way it has to be. If the moonbat left screams and bambi does a flip in his rhetoric, just remember that everything he says has an “expires on” date…
Appease the lefty moonbats bozo, they are the only ones that still await the unicorn.

ChicagoBlues on April 21, 2009 at 2:03 PM

Take a position for amnesty or prosecution.

getalife on April 21, 2009 at 1:45 PM

These are unrelated issues, unless you are suggesting that the greater concern is with the letter of the law. And in that case, let me turn the tables on you – if Napolitano doesn’t give a flying fig about immigration law, why should anyone in Obama’s government give a da** about any other law?

ProfessorMiao on April 21, 2009 at 2:04 PM

Can we prosecute Obama for murder because of his position on the Illinois Born Alive Infants Protection Act?

zmdavid on April 21, 2009 at 2:01 PM

in a just world

the MSM would also note Obama’s stepping up Renditions, which means more Real Torture will take place now as a result of this idiotic political play by the left

jp on April 21, 2009 at 2:04 PM

The lawyers were aksed for their interpretation of US law. Please explain how giving a client one’s interpretation of the law can be considered a violation of the United States criminal code, and of which section of that code.

Wethal on April 21, 2009 at 1:52 PM

Not agreeing with a liberal is always a crime.

MarkTheGreat on April 21, 2009 at 2:04 PM

bush dropped the ball… he should have taken the heat and pardoned the interogators

now some career cia guys will take the fall and the heat of all the moonbats. i know these guys are tough as nails, but it just isn’t right to have to rake them over the coals like ollie north

gatorboy on April 21, 2009 at 2:04 PM

That leaves George Tenet and the OLC attorneys, but they didn’t conduct the torture, and the OLC didn’t order the interrogations, either. They responded to a request from the CIA to opine on the legality of the procedures. Holder can prosecute Tenet, but then he’d also have to file charges against several members of Congress who were briefed on the procedures and never objected — including current Speaker Nancy Pelosi. If Tenet would get prosecuted for ordering the interrogation techniques, then Pelosi and others would have to get prosecuted for being accessories in not taking action to stop them.

Excuse me, Ed, but while Hussein al-Chicago has a documented history of throwing troublesome supporters under the bus, even he isn’t stupid enough to permit the AG to prosecute Congresstitutes.

SeniorD on April 21, 2009 at 2:04 PM

getalife on April 21, 2009 at 1:55 PM

Hey Retard.

lorien1973 on April 21, 2009 at 1:58 PM

PWND!

kirkill on April 21, 2009 at 2:04 PM

getalife on April 21, 2009 at 2:03 PM

So, really, you admit that you are just an Obama parrot. He said it, *sqwack* you say it. He says something else, *sqwack* you say that too.

Glad your role is defined. And that you are, in fact, capable of no indepedent thought.

lorien1973 on April 21, 2009 at 2:04 PM

Go for it Barry and prosecute them all.

And if you think the Tea Party’s were just a bunch of unhealthy old people protesting…..

You ain’t seen nothing yet. Bring it on!!

Knucklehead on April 21, 2009 at 2:05 PM

What goes round comes round. And when Obama and his thugs are kicked out of office, I will be calling for their prosecution.

Blake on April 21, 2009 at 2:05 PM

For all the threats to put Bush Administration officials on trial, I say frakking well BRING IT, bizitches! The impeachment, on much less shaky grounds, of Clinton only did good things for him. Just try. Try putting good people trying to protect this nation on trial and see if a gods-damned one of you could get elected dogcatcher in the following years. Quit threatening and do it, you lot of lily-livered slang-terms-for-femaile-genitalia.

Sekhmet on April 21, 2009 at 1:49 PM

You said what I have wanted to say for ages. The Clinton trial was a joke and a waste of time. I would LOOOOOOVE for them to start prosecuting these people because they would have a big fight on their hands. It would be the first time I have ever donated to any political campaign or issue. Bring it on is right.

NathanG on April 21, 2009 at 2:05 PM

cons want to prosecute illegals but not torture.

Can’t have it both ways cons.

Take a position for amnesty or prosecution.

getalife on April 21, 2009 at 1:45 PM

Nobody can be this obtuse. “Illegals,” by whom you mean “illegal immigrants,” have by definition violated US immigration law. That is to say, they’ve committed a crime.

The “torture,” as you put it, occurred after a good-faith legal opinion was given stating that the activities were legal. Again, by definition that means no crime was committed.

I fail to see any attempt to have it both ways – crimes are committed, they get prosecuted, and if a guilty verdict is rendered then punishment is meted out. If any of the steps in that process fail, no crime is considered to have taken place so no punishment occurs. This is the very definition of Justice.

Why do we even have to discuss something so basic?!?

Blacksmith on April 21, 2009 at 2:06 PM

NathanG on April 21, 2009 at 2:05 PM

A big fight but it makes America look weak to our enemies.

Blake on April 21, 2009 at 2:06 PM

Am I living in “upside down world”? This is a travesty. Prosecuting for what? No really, WHAT? Someone needs to tell me what exactly they would prosecute.

Frances on April 21, 2009 at 2:01 PM

They will eventually come up with the “what”. Just like they have been making everything else up as they go along.

Yoop on April 21, 2009 at 2:06 PM

So, really, you admit that you are just an Obama parrot. He said it, *sqwack* you say it. He says something else, *sqwack* you say that too.

Glad your role is defined. And that you are, in fact, capable of no indepedent thought.

lorien1973 on April 21, 2009 at 2:04 PM

Oh come on Lorien. The guy in D.C. that Getalife stalks….I mean the adults are in charge now. Didn’t you get the memo daily from Goebbels I mean getalife?

NathanG on April 21, 2009 at 2:07 PM

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