More Miss California: I oppose bailouts and welfare

posted at 6:40 pm on April 21, 2009 by Allahpundit

Skip ahead to 2:00. Dude. She’s one of us.

Actually, don’t skip ahead. This clip’s even better than the “Today” segment, especially when she talks about what went through her mind when she was asked the question at the pageant. Hotness is often inversely proportional to sweetness, but this kid is somehow off the charts on both. Good work, mom and dad.

Watch Cavuto try to recruit her for Fox News at the very end. Blonde, beautiful, and conservative: I’d be surprised if Ailes hasn’t signed her already.

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JetBoy on April 21, 2009 at 8:58 PM

But not everyone feels like you do. If what you wanted, to be legally married to your partner and all that entails, happen tomorrow could you guarantee that would be the end. Of course you couldn’t. I think it is ultimately going to happen and I think all of us will be proven correct. You and folks like you will live happily ever after but the strident will not be happy and will continue to push. You may not be in a class all of your own but you have class, not everyone can say that or wants to.

Cindy Munford on April 21, 2009 at 9:04 PM

He is the One who judges…

Try to remember that.

JetBoy on April 21, 2009 at 9:00 PM

Is that directed at me for running through the HUGE HOLE you left open for me? I’m not judging you. You said ‘believe it or not’. I said I believe it. Would you prefer I say ‘NO WAY! You don’t go to mass?’

But I could be mistaken in what you feel victimizes you this time.

ThackerAgency on April 21, 2009 at 9:06 PM

Loxodonta on April 21, 2009 at 9:03 PM

My beef is not with the Church, Lox. How many times do I have to repeat that?

JetBoy on April 21, 2009 at 9:08 PM

Can you, as well, show me where Christ ever called a gay person a sinner, or immoral, or asked a gay person to “change”, or condemned a gay person, or judged a person for being gay….?

No, you cannot.

JetBoy on April 21, 2009 at 8:49 PM

When Jesus healed various people, he complimented them on their faith and instructed them to “go and sin not more” whatever their sins may have been. Jesus didn’t, however, read off a list of those various sins probably because all unrepentant sins have the same exact penalty.

Paul, however, had some choice things to say about homosexuals in Romans 1.

But b…once again, [marriage] has NOTHING to do with religion. NOTHING.

Sorry, but one cannot change the fact that marriage is a religious concept.

For some reason, I seem to be the only one around here who can keep religion out of issues of state.

JetBoy on April 21, 2009 at 8:57 PM

This is exactly what I’m suggesting–getting the state out of the marriage business and making them all–homosexual and heterosexual–civil unions. Then all would have equal protection under the law. One would think that you’d be all for the solution I put forth.

baldilocks on April 21, 2009 at 9:08 PM

For some reason, I seem to be the only one around here who can keep religion out of issues of state.

JetBoy on April 21, 2009 at 8:57 PM

You are not alone and there were more. They bailed because they don’t want to engage in Far Right warfare with a Loon opponent.

AprilOrit on April 21, 2009 at 9:08 PM

seriously jetboy. What difference does it make to you? If you love someone you shouldn’t need a piece of paper to prove it. If you need a piece of paper, you might need to re evaluate your relationship.

You can live with the same person for the rest of your life if you would like. This way, if you decide you don’t want to live with each other, you don’t have to worry about going through a nasty divorce that would cost more money than it would be worth.

There is not a single post on here saying you should be prohibited from living your life as a homosexual. . . yet somehow you are a victim. . . somehow.

ThackerAgency on April 21, 2009 at 9:09 PM

It is more than just about an “issue of state”.

First Amendment rights are essential to the preservation of this nation-state. The right to practice your religious beliefs freely without interference from the state is a main issue of state. If the state does not allow that religious belief within it, it would be violating its own law.

Hell yes it is an “issue of state”!

newton on April 21, 2009 at 9:11 PM

They bailed because they don’t want to engage in Far Right warfare with a Loon opponent.

AprilOrit on April 21, 2009 at 9:08 PM

Jetboy is not a loon.

baldilocks on April 21, 2009 at 9:11 PM

Every now and then you run across someone you can root for, this lady is one of those.

KBird on April 21, 2009 at 9:13 PM

There is not a single post on here saying you should be prohibited from living your life as a homosexual. . . yet somehow you are a victim. . . somehow.

ThackerAgency on April 21, 2009 at 9:09 PM

I agree with you, Thacker.

And no, I don’t think JetBoy is a loon. I don’t hate him, either. He probably is a riot of a good pal to be with if I ever know him, and I’ll probably even like him. But I do feel sorry for him, frankly.

newton on April 21, 2009 at 9:14 PM

For some reason, I seem to be the only one around here who can keep religion out of issues of state.

JetBoy on April 21, 2009 at 8:57 PM

You are not alone and there were more. They bailed because they don’t want to engage in Far Right warfare with a Loon opponent.

AprilOrit on April 21, 2009 at 9:08 PM

Jetboy what are you trying to say. One night you concede the sanctity of the word marriage out of your own religious convictions and the next you say it still promotes inequality. One night you say you agree to the concept of civil unions and then act like anyone who agrees that’s a good compromise is being bigoted and religious. Coming from a guy who wouldn’t let me take communion in his church, I’m confused again.

What are you saying? You want it to be recognized as a marriage or what. Go on the record now and quit beating around the bush.

hawkdriver on April 21, 2009 at 9:14 PM

Good for here for standing true to her beliefs. She was a class act.

Good job, Mom and Dad.

Dave in San Diego on April 21, 2009 at 9:16 PM

Just want to say, a big “thanks” to those who support me in this, but don’t agree with it…to those who support AND agree with it…and even those who don’t support AND don’t agree. That’s fine, it’s America.

All kinds of equality had to be fought for in this country. And equality always wins out eventually. So will equality concerning gay marriage. And guess what…Christianity, American, and civilization itself will go on. Hard to believe, huh?

I really do love all y’all. Even you, Thacker :-P

JetBoy on April 21, 2009 at 9:17 PM

My beef is not with the Church, Lox. How many times do I have to repeat that?

JetBoy on April 21, 2009 at 9:08 PM

If Gay Marriage becomes a “right,” what will happen to people who refuse to perform marriage ceremonies for gay couples? Will this be a crime?

And what will happen to people who speak out against Gay Marriage? Will this be a crime?

Pope Benedict XVI:

“At this point, I cannot fail to mention my concern over ‘de facto’ couples,” he said. “When new legislation is created that relativizes marriage, the rejection of the definitive bond gains, so to speak, juridical endorsement. Relativizing the difference between the sexes … tacitly confirms those bleak theories which seek to remove all relevance from a human being’s masculinity or femininity, as if this were a purely biological matter.”

“In seeking to emancipate himself from his body (from the ‘biological sphere’), [man] ends up by destroying himself,” the pope told cardinals, archbishops, bishops and members of the Roman Curia last week in a traditional meeting overlooked by most of the world’s press. “Against those who say that ‘the Church should not involve herself in these matters,’ we can only respond: does man not concern us too? The church and believers must raise their voices to defend man, the creature who, in the inseparable unity of body and spirit, is the image of God.”

Is the Pope “dumb?” Were his statements hate speech?

Loxodonta on April 21, 2009 at 9:18 PM

I really do love all y’all. Even you, Thacker :-P

JetBoy on April 21, 2009 at 9:17 PM

Easy gunner. . . your begging for a sexual harassment lawsuit. Don’t hate me because I’m beautiful.

ThackerAgency on April 21, 2009 at 9:20 PM

What are you saying? You want it to be recognized as a marriage or what. Go on the record now and quit beating around the bush.

hawkdriver on April 21, 2009 at 9:14 PM

I’ve said it multiple times, hawk.

I don’t give a rats a$$ what it’s called. Just as long as gay marriage, civil unions, “Qwidgybo”, whatever…affords the same rights and legal provisions that marriage does.

Copy. Save. Print. Just so y’all know.

JetBoy on April 21, 2009 at 9:20 PM

All kinds of equality had to be fought for in this country. And equality always wins out eventually. So will equality concerning gay marriage. And guess what…Christianity, American, and civilization itself will go on. Hard to believe, huh?

I really do love all y’all. Even you, Thacker :-P

JetBoy on April 21, 2009 at 9:17 PM

The activism for same sex “marriage” isn’t about righting an inequality.
It is an attempt to make an unnatural perversion fit into the mold of a traditional, well-defined institution of Civilization that has existed since man and woman first walked the earth.
While it’s cute to mock the Christians’ slogan, “God made Adam and Eve, not Adam and Steve.” it’s accurate.
Neither 2 men nor 2 women can be “married” to each other–it’s just not physically possible.
They cannot have a union that results in natural children, which is one of the primary purposes of marriage.

Jenfidel on April 21, 2009 at 9:23 PM

JetBoy on April 21, 2009 at 9:20 PM

You gave a shotgun answer with all the elements you’ve used at different times and then expect us understand.

One more time. Do you want to call it marriage?

hawkdriver on April 21, 2009 at 9:23 PM

He is the One who judges…
Try to remember that.

JetBoy on April 21, 2009 at 9:00 PM

oh I do, and He has made it abundantly clear that homosexuality is a sin.

right4life on April 21, 2009 at 9:23 PM

Neither 2 men nor 2 women can be “married” to each other–it’s just not physically possible.
They cannot have a union that results in natural children, which is one of the primary purposes of marriage.

Jenfidel on April 21, 2009 at 9:23 PM

gay marriage is mainly about silencing and prohibiting christian faith…and all speech that gays don’t approve of.

its a form of gay sharia law..

right4life on April 21, 2009 at 9:24 PM

I think I’m in love….

therightwinger on April 21, 2009 at 9:24 PM

Gays often go to the “God will judge” rant. Many even claim to be Christians. Of course they manage to disregard Romans 1 as “uninspired” along with any other scripture that condemns homosexuality. It’s a neat version of Christianity they have–believe the parts of the Bible that you want, and disregard the parts you don’t.

It’s intellectually dishonest and morally vacuous.

At least AP is honest about his disbelief. I don’t agree with him, but I respect him for his honesty.

pugwriter on April 21, 2009 at 9:24 PM

I don’t give a rats a$$ what it’s called. Just as long as gay marriage, civil unions, “Qwidgybo”, whatever…affords the same rights and legal provisions that marriage does.

Copy. Save. Print. Just so y’all know.

JetBoy on April 21, 2009 at 9:20 PM

I think you’ve already been told by several here that they’re cool with civil unions, so why do you keep complaining?
I do not want civil unions as I know that like you, the activists won’t be happy with civil unions and will keep pushing until they get “marriage” so they can pervert and destroy it and make a mockery of it.

Jenfidel on April 21, 2009 at 9:25 PM

Beautiful, beautiful woman! I think Jabba the Hilton’s scores should be tossed out and see if Miss California would have been the real winner. Just for kicks.
I caught this on Cavuto and my jaw dropped. She is from California and she believes in conservative values. I thought all the smart people left California years ago….

HornetSting on April 21, 2009 at 9:26 PM

The REAL 2009 Miss America — Miss NC Kristin Dalton — is drop dead gorgeous. I’m afraid she is getting overlooked from this CA girl who is hopping from camera crew to camera crew like a fat kid to cakeshops. Kristin deserves her time in the spotlight and is showing her class by not going on multiple interviews whining like other people.

Right, the girl who won with saying instead of using taxpayer money to bailout companies we should instead pump billions more into failed libtard projects like welfare. No to one form of socialism–yes to the other. I am curious though to see what she has to say on Cavuto.

As for Carrie Prejean, I think I just my dream girl. And unlike most of you she is actually in my age group. :)

Patriot33 on April 21, 2009 at 9:27 PM

Carrie is an incredible young woman. She stood on principal, something which absolutely irritates the hypocritical left, who are supposedly so “inclusive,” “compassionate,” and “tolerant.” God bless this young lady. Incredible woman of strength and beauty. If she gets a job at Fox News, I would absolutely love to watch her take it to the left.

Jockolantern on April 21, 2009 at 9:28 PM

One more time. Do you want to call it marriage?

hawkdriver on April 21, 2009 at 9:23 PM

I. don’t. care. what. it’s. called.

JetBoy on April 21, 2009 at 9:28 PM

Jenfidel on April 21, 2009 at 9:25 PM

I don’t like the concept of civil unions either. The entire inequality is a red herring. Everything can be settled now with current legal documents. Power of attorney, wills, medical information waivers and the like.

If I get sick and go to the hospital, my MOM can’t even see me unless I give permission. . . SPECIFIC permission.

The only place it would matter would be in default situations where an unexpected death occurred. Then the law would divy up your belongings. . . but you’d be dead so you shouldn’t really care. It’s not like you’d be leaving young children without resources to live.

There is no need for government recognition of gay relationship anything. It’s kinda stupid really. . . the entire concept.

ThackerAgency on April 21, 2009 at 9:29 PM

I. don’t. care. what. it’s. called.

JetBoy on April 21, 2009 at 9:28 PM

Why were you arguing with me then?

baldilocks on April 21, 2009 at 9:30 PM

Please, FOX, hire Miss California. She is gorgeous and wonderful and lovely and terrific and beautiful. . . oh so beautiful.

Phil Byler on April 21, 2009 at 9:30 PM

Please, FOX, hire Miss California. She is gorgeous and wonderful and lovely and terrific and beautiful. . . oh so beautiful.

Phil Byler on April 21, 2009 at 9:30 PM

Fox couldn’t afford her. She already said she didn’t want to be a news anchor like half of the beauty pageant contestants. That alone makes her special. But she’ll earn bank working for the Donald and modeling around the world.

ThackerAgency on April 21, 2009 at 9:32 PM

Miss California is a ray of sunshine.

I hope she glows for a long time.

As far as the “marriage” redefinition goes, it is unwise to overthrow a fundmental aspect of all Civilization and propagation.

Since it seems to be mostly genetic, then gays appear to be produced by Mother Nature in order to harmlessly limit the population. (Unlike more violent techniques such as plagues, earthquakes, etc.)

But Science has side-stepped that natural self-sterility with in vitro fetilization.

Which will make for a chaotic future, because, since the homosexual tendency is a biological dead end. Science shall be artificially encouraging an otherwise self-limiting cul de sac to spread, unnaturally.

Unless bedrock frameworks of human survival and cultural stability are preserved, we will sow the genetic wind and reap the mutagenic whirlwind.

Civil unions seem a sufficient protection of equal rights, with all the same fiscal and legal benefits as traditional “marriage”, but no overturning of the core concept and central method of human survival.

profitsbeard on April 21, 2009 at 9:36 PM

I. don’t. care. what. it’s. called.

JetBoy on April 21, 2009 at 9:28 PM

Why were you arguing with me then?

baldilocks on April 21, 2009 at 9:30 PM

It took a while Baldi but I got my answer. He was arguing with you because does care just like anyone else in the movement. It needs to be called marriage.

hawkdriver on April 21, 2009 at 9:36 PM

I. don’t. care. what. it’s. called.

JetBoy on April 21, 2009 at 9:28 PM

So start a new movement for your new named form of homosexual couplings and leave the other 97+% of us and our marriages alone!

Jenfidel on April 21, 2009 at 9:36 PM

Watching her on Hannity right now and she isn’t a bimbo like i thought she would be. she stumbled over that answer at the competition but she is a real smart girl. what a cool girl.

lavell12 on April 21, 2009 at 9:38 PM

you because he does care

hawkdriver on April 21, 2009 at 9:38 PM

Thanks Jetboy for derailing the thread and turning it into another Gay marriage crusade. I notice you never address the issue about Gays taking Christians before the courts, how come?

Kjeil on April 21, 2009 at 9:39 PM

The only place it would matter would be in default situations where an unexpected death occurred.

You’re so wrong with what you said in totality there, but on this point you made, lemme tell ya a short story.

My boyfriend, whom I lived with for 4 years, died of Cystic Fibrosis a couple years back. I spent 3 days in the ICU with him in a comatose state, before God eventually took him.

I was lucky, in the sense his family was kind and loving enough to not only want me there, but to let me have the say in whether or not to “pull the plug”, as he was only being kept alive by a breathing machine.

I wanted ALL of us, his family to me more importantly, to make that decision together. And it was decided to just keep him comfortable, increase the morphine drip to stop the shakes, and let him go.

But let’s say his family were less than sympathetic to me. I would have NO say, NO right to be there in the ICU, and could have been shut out completely. All because of legalities.

See what I’m aiming for here?

JetBoy on April 21, 2009 at 9:39 PM

I don’t like the concept of civil unions either. The entire inequality is a red herring. Everything can be settled now with current legal documents. Power of attorney, wills, medical information waivers and the like.

Couldn’t agree more!
Their whole whine that they’re being discriminated against like when blacks couldn’t marry whites is a straw man.

There is no need for government recognition of gay relationship anything. It’s kinda stupid really. . . the entire concept.

ThackerAgency on April 21, 2009 at 9:29 PM

Way stupid, to the point of ridiculousness!
(What’s even more stupid is the way the rest of us have let the Gaystapo buffalo us this far…)
These people are the nasty, intolerant haters!

Jenfidel on April 21, 2009 at 9:40 PM

Thanks Jetboy for derailing the thread and turning it into another Gay marriage crusade. I notice you never address the issue about Gays taking Christians before the courts, how come?

Kjeil on April 21, 2009 at 9:39 PM

I didn’t derail this thread…check the first page. I may have pressed the gas pedal, but I didn’t turn the steering wheel.

JetBoy on April 21, 2009 at 9:40 PM

Fox couldn’t afford her. She already said she didn’t want to be a news anchor like half of the beauty pageant contestants. That alone makes her special. But she’ll earn bank working for the Donald and modeling around the world.

ThackerAgency on April 21, 2009 at 9:32 PM

White House press secretary for the next conservative administration.

BuckeyeSam on April 21, 2009 at 9:41 PM

But let’s say his family were less than sympathetic to me. I would have NO say, NO right to be there in the ICU, and could have been shut out completely. All because of legalities.

See what I’m aiming for here?

JetBoy on April 21, 2009 at 9:39 PM

First off, let me say how sorry I am for your loved one’s death. It is difficult to lose anyone, much less someone that close to you.

Having said that, if your partner had written up a medical power of attorney and given you that power, the rest of his family would have NO say, NO right to be there in the ICU.

You don’t need ‘marriage’ or ‘civil union’ or anything. I can give power of attorney to anyone I want. Remember Seinfeld with Kramer giving it to Elaine? You can give it to ANYONE for ANY reason even if you aren’t in ‘love’.

ThackerAgency on April 21, 2009 at 9:42 PM

See what I’m aiming for here?

JetBoy on April 21, 2009 at 9:39 PM

Nope.
Not even “marriage” would save you or it could doom you: Witness the fate of Terry Schiavo and her husband.
He pulled the plug–her family wanted her to live.
Same sex “marriage” isn’t a fix for this kind of problem, nor should it be argued as the remedy to alleviate one’s federal tax burden.

The traditional marriage and family are too important and crucial to the general welfare to be demolished for the whims of the “gay” activist movement.

Jenfidel on April 21, 2009 at 9:44 PM

JetBoy on April 21, 2009 at 9:39 PM

I’m sorry for your loss. But a civil union described the rights you sought in that situation.

hawkdriver on April 21, 2009 at 9:46 PM

White House press secretary for the next conservative administration.

Now, there’s a good idea. She did very well with Hannity just now. Imagine her in Palin’s White House.

It’s a dream I have…

Dave in San Diego on April 21, 2009 at 9:47 PM

No hawk, it doesn’t.

From Les.Life@about(dot)com:

A lawyer can set up some things like durable power of attorney, wills and medical power of attorney. There are several problems with this, however.

1. It costs thousands of dollars in legal fees. A simple marriage license, which usually costs under $100 would cover all the same rights and benefits.

2. Any of these can be challenged in court. As a matter of fact, more wills are challenged than not. In the case of wills, legal spouses always have more legal power than any other family member.

3. Marriage laws are universal. If someone’s husband or wife is injured in an accident, all you need to do is show up and say you’re his or her spouse. You will not be questioned. If you show up at the hospital with your legal paperwork, the employees may not know what to do with you. If you simply say, “He’s my husband,” you will immediately be taken to your spouse’s side.

JetBoy on April 21, 2009 at 9:51 PM

But let’s say his family were less than sympathetic to me. I would have NO say, NO right to be there in the ICU, and could have been shut out completely. All because of legalities.

See what I’m aiming for here?

JetBoy on April 21, 2009 at 9:39 PM

Biden offered a comparable sob story at his debate with Palin. The simple answer is get some fricking estate planning done. More to the situation you describe, find out the name of the applicable health care document that applies in your state and name whomever you want as the person to make health care decisions for you when you aren’t able.

With regard to financial matters, execute a will or revocable trust, or both, that incorporate your partner as a beneficiary. Execute a durable power of attorney naming your partner as your attorney in fact. And don’t forget name your partner as your designated beneficiary of all assets whose disposition at death are dictated by those beneficiary designations: life insurance, employer retirement plans, IRAs, and the like.

You’re an adult; get some estate planning done. Sorry for your loss, but this is nonsense. Your situation is exactly the same as a heterosexual couple that’s living together.

BuckeyeSam on April 21, 2009 at 9:53 PM

power of attorneys aren’t that expensive (it’s a notorized piece of paper that you both sign). There are services that offer free wills.

Again, you are making the argument that you need the LEGAL protection for marriage. That’s why it is necessary and required. But the point is that in this country, right now, you can get just as much legal protection as marriage with less time, money, and effort than going through the ceremony – how much does the typical wedding cost anyway?

AND if you end up getting in a fight, you don’t have to have the costly divorce. Just rip up the medical power of attorney.

This issue is nothing more than leverage to be able to sue religious institutions. The lawyers would love it, but it won’t make society better. . . quite the opposite.

Gay marriage and civil unions are just dumb.

ThackerAgency on April 21, 2009 at 9:55 PM

Kjeil on April 21, 2009 at 9:39 PM

I apologize for not addressing the issue of Miss California. She is a strikingly beautiful woman who addressed herself graciously in this interview. She seems quite lovely on the inside, and I agree with everything she said.

However, as she was forced to address the issue of gay marriage, discussing the issue this thread seems relevant to me.

Loxodonta on April 21, 2009 at 9:55 PM

Your situation is exactly the same as a heterosexual couple that’s living together.

BuckeyeSam on April 21, 2009 at 9:53 PM


B – I – N – G – O

ThackerAgency on April 21, 2009 at 9:56 PM

Has she been on any other network besides Fox? I hope that in 10years my son will meet a young lady like her, that they fall in love marry…

CCRWM on April 21, 2009 at 9:57 PM

Has she been on any other network besides Fox? I hope that in 10years my son will meet a young lady like her, that they fall in love and marry…

CCRWM on April 21, 2009 at 9:58 PM

2. Any of these can be challenged in court. As a matter of fact, more wills are challenged than not. In the case of wills, legal spouses always have more legal power than any other family member.

JetBoy on April 21, 2009 at 9:51 PM

“more wills are challenged than not.”

This is absurd.

You’re an adult; get some estate planning done.

BuckeyeSam on April 21, 2009 at 9:59 PM

JetBoy on April 21, 2009 at 9:39 PM

I also am sorry for your loss. And I too do not think of you as a loon.

However, I believe you are advocating a position that is at odds with our Catholic faith.

And I fear that Gay Marriage poses a threat to the rights of those who disagree with it to practice our faiths freely. I fear the potential criminalization of our religious views and practices. And as this has happened in Europe, and our courts seem open to using European reasoning, I don’t think my fear is unreasonable.

Is the Pope and is Catholic Catechism “dumb?” Are Catholic teachings on homosexuality “hate speech?” How can we protect our freedoms of conscience and religion from be criminalized if Gay marriage is a protected “right?”

Loxodonta on April 21, 2009 at 10:07 PM

Loxodonta on April 21, 2009 at 9:55 PM

Dude, you’re absolutely right. The classy woman is going to be forever tied to the subject because of the nut job judge. Unfair.

hawkdriver on April 21, 2009 at 10:09 PM

Ahhh ! !! Fresh air. Isn’t she great.

Reminds me of a lady named Sarah a few years back.

Texyank on April 21, 2009 at 10:09 PM

I know I’m passe and out of touch–so I can honestly say I had never, ever heard of or seen this Perez Hilton chap until I read about him on this blog. I shall put that in my blessings column and try to avoid any further contact with him directly or indirectly.

jeanie on April 21, 2009 at 10:11 PM

More Miss California: I oppose bailouts and welfare

Note to Ms. Perjean:
Perez Hilton is a big ZERO. You won way more than he thought he took away from you. You’re a beautiful person, both inside, and out. You have great principles of life, that will take you far in your career.

byteshredder on April 21, 2009 at 10:15 PM

Dude, you’re absolutely right. The classy woman is going to be forever tied to the subject because of the nut job judge. Unfair.

hawkdriver on April 21, 2009 at 10:09 PM

Perez Hilton was unfair. The question was unfair. The pageant was unfair. And life can be unfair.

But Carrie Prejean is among the fairest I have seen. And she is going to have a lot to say about how life treats her in the future. So far, she is doing a beautiful job. I hope she continues.

Viva Carrie Prejean!

Loxodonta on April 21, 2009 at 10:15 PM

hawkdriver on April 21, 2009 at 10:09 PM

ps:

Dude?

You whippersnapper!

Loxodonta on April 21, 2009 at 10:17 PM

Loxodonta on April 21, 2009 at 10:15 PM

Yep!

hawkdriver on April 21, 2009 at 10:19 PM

Loxodonta on April 21, 2009 at 10:17 PM

lol, it’s the young troopers I work with, Dude.

hawkdriver on April 21, 2009 at 10:22 PM

The exceptional nature of marriage (between a man and a woman) is its unique capacity for procreation, period, end of story. When gays and lesbians can have babies without using a surrogate mother or a sperm donor, then they will be marriage material.

exdeadhead on April 21, 2009 at 10:24 PM

hawkdriver on April 21, 2009 at 10:22 PM

Do a good job, please. I want them all to safely come home again.

Even if that does earn them a DHS listing.

Loxodonta on April 21, 2009 at 10:29 PM

Do a good job, please. I want them all to safely come home again.

We take care of each other.

Even if that does earn them a DHS listing.

Loxodonta on April 21, 2009 at 10:29 P

We be branded for life. :-)

hawkdriver on April 21, 2009 at 10:32 PM

hawkdriver on April 21, 2009 at 10:32 PM

A badge of honor.

Loxodonta on April 21, 2009 at 10:34 PM

Oh man oh man oh man. Hot, smart, and conservative. The sky’s the limit for her. She has more courage than many her age.

Mojave Mark on April 21, 2009 at 10:38 PM

Loxodonta

We obviously disagree on this issue. Again, I keep church and state as separate as possible. As a fellow Catholic, believe me, I know what the Catholic Church says. And no, I would never call the Pope “dumb”. When my time comes, I’ll be judged. And I’ll have to answer for my sins like anyone else.

If you were at Easter Sunday mass (where I’ve never seen so many parishioners on the average Sunday…they ust come out of the woodwork!) you probably felt the same warm, loving feeling deep in your soul when “Jesus Christ is Risen Today” played. I know God loves me. As He loves you, and all of us.

hawkdriver

Truly, I’m glad you continue to converse with me, after last night. I respect you, what you do, and your opinions. I may not agree with those opinions, but…ya know.

Peace.

JetBoy on April 21, 2009 at 10:50 PM

This kid won.

unclesmrgol on April 21, 2009 at 11:00 PM

But let’s say his family were less than sympathetic to me. I would have NO say, NO right to be there in the ICU, and could have been shut out completely. All because of legalities.

See what I’m aiming for here?

JetBoy on April 21, 2009 at 9:39 PM

When my cousin died of AIDS in New Orleans, my Aunt went to fetch her only son’s body to be buried in her hometown. She’s not a rich person, but my cousin had a car, and she was going to sell it to get some of the burial money. His gay friends hid the car from her, and in the end she had to leave without having sold it.

She buried her son next to his last “lover” (who died of AIDS two years before him), and my Aunt paid for a combined tombstone in the shape of a heart.

She certainly did not approve of her son’s lifestyle, and lamented the grandchildren she would never have, but she did right by both him and his partner.

His gay friends did her dirty.

unclesmrgol on April 21, 2009 at 11:06 PM

I keep church and state as separate as possible.

JetBoy on April 21, 2009 at 10:50 PM

The greatest possible separation between Church and State is the criminalization, followed by the suppression, of the Church and people of faith. This is the fear of many of us who oppose Gay Marriage.

This is the same fear many of us feel about nationalized health care. Will people of faith be criminalized for refusing to perform abortions or provide treatments developed with embryonic stem cells?

As there are many ways to address your concerns, there are ways to address ours. Ignoring our faith and our concerns is ignoring our humanity. And it is the easiest means of ensuring our that fears will be proven true.

May you find it in your heart to have the same compassion for those with whom you disagree, as you seek for yourself.

May you be free from mistreatment, anxiety, and suffering. May Peace be with you. †

Loxodonta on April 21, 2009 at 11:14 PM

Anyone who thinks the union of two guys or two women is the same as the union of one man and one woman is delusional.

I’m so sick of this discussion and people who support the true (traditional) meaning of “marriage” being branded as “haters” and “bigots.”

I’m gay – I know many gay “married” couples – IT’S NOT THE SAME. How ironic that a “community” whining for years about diversity and acceptance for being “different” now suddenly want and claim to be “the same.”

Get the phuck over yourselves and be thankful you live in a country that largely accepts who you are and doesn’t hang you in the town square.

Christ Almighty!

D2Boston on April 21, 2009 at 11:17 PM

Carrie: Banned by Hollywood

faraway on April 21, 2009 at 11:21 PM

By the way, I think she meant she was against corporate welfare, not welfare in general. Context.

NNtrancer on April 21, 2009 at 11:23 PM

Wow!
Beautiful, inside and out!
And plenty smart.

Sterling Holobyte on April 21, 2009 at 11:26 PM

Carrie the Plumber? No. Carrie from Cali, get thee to a Tea Party.

curved space on April 21, 2009 at 8:15 PM

She has been catapulted into the the forefront just as Joe Werzelbacher was. The attack was actually a benefit. The suspicion that she didn’t get first place as result of her answer to Hilton only increases her status. She certainly won by losing. If she has the heart for it she could easily become a candidate for office.

scrubjay on April 21, 2009 at 11:38 PM

Jetboy what are you trying to say. One night you concede the sanctity of the word marriage out of your own religious convictions and the next you say it still promotes inequality. One night you say you agree to the concept of civil unions and then act like anyone who agrees that’s a good compromise is being bigoted and religious. Coming from a guy who wouldn’t let me take communion in his church, I’m confused again.
hawkdriver on April 21, 2009 at 9:14 PM

You’re not alone.

capitalist piglet on April 22, 2009 at 12:01 AM

Thank you, Miss California, for being authentic and for expressing your core belief. Your mom and dad must be very proud of you.

And shame to the poster who referred to her, earlier on, as a bimbo not interested in Hollywood.

(We know what Hollywood types are — or at least, most of them!)

mz.josephine on April 22, 2009 at 12:02 AM

She did say she might go into politics.

She’ll have to wait until age 25 to run for Congress, but that will give her time to study some more issues.

Run, Carrie, run!

Steve Z on April 22, 2009 at 12:12 AM

I’ll be voting for Palin, but I’ll be thinking of Carrie.

29Victor on April 22, 2009 at 12:37 AM

My beef is not with the Church, Lox. How many times do I have to repeat that?

JetBoy on April 21, 2009 at 9:08 PM

Right, your beef is with God, and His Word, the Bible.

TTheoLogan on April 22, 2009 at 12:38 AM

It was very nice having you

We can only wish and dream……..

Mallard T. Drake on April 22, 2009 at 1:26 AM

Miss California has opened a world of opportunity for herself, and has already dwarfed Miss Whomever as the real winner here.

Her opening few comments to Neil expose the real gold within…

desertdweller on April 22, 2009 at 1:49 AM

*In my best Monty Python voice for JetBoy

He IS a looney!..

GoodBoy on April 22, 2009 at 1:54 AM

Anyone who thinks the union of two guys or two women is the same as the union of one man and one woman is delusional.

I’m so sick of this discussion and people who support the true (traditional) meaning of “marriage” being branded as “haters” and “bigots.”

I’m gay – I know many gay “married” couples – IT’S NOT THE SAME. How ironic that a “community” whining for years about diversity and acceptance for being “different” now suddenly want and claim to be “the same.”

Get the phuck over yourselves and be thankful you live in a country that largely accepts who you are and doesn’t hang you in the town square.

Christ Almighty!

D2Boston on April 21, 2009 at 11:17 PM

Bravo sir! Even though Christians (including myself) don’t agree with the homosexual lifestyle, we still understand that people are people and don’t condemn them or hurt/kill them. Anyone who claims to be a Christian and hurts or kills another person for being gay is not a true Christian. Try being a homosexual in Syria or Iran.

MobileVideoEngineer on April 22, 2009 at 2:01 AM

We know the looney left is going to go after her and try to destroy her, just like they are trying to do to Sarah. I hope she is strong enough (being this young) to stand up to it. If she survives the garbage that is going to be thrown her way, she is going to be a very powerful woman in the future.

Yeah, she won the title hands down. She is Miss USA.

cjs1943 on April 22, 2009 at 2:10 AM

I am SOOOO in love right now!!

Against the bailouts, calling them welfare, stands up for her principals and most importantly, what a great speaker.

Where do I sign?

HarryStar on April 22, 2009 at 2:11 AM

I used to say “it’s not in the Constitution, leave it in the hands of the state to decide”

While I still support that belief, I see activists don’t respect the will of the people when they vote against the group’s interest.

People VOTED…get over it!

Oh, and this girl is hawt.

Black Adam on April 22, 2009 at 2:16 AM

She’s a genius, and if she’s a true believer, then even better.

DFCtomm on April 22, 2009 at 2:40 AM

Please, FOX, hire Miss California. She is gorgeous and wonderful and lovely and terrific and beautiful. . . oh so beautiful.
Phil Byler on April 21, 2009 at 9:30 PM

I’m glad at least a few of you are willing admit the bimbos on Fox are merely windowdressing.

And they’re so cute when they try to act all journalisty!

benny shakar on April 22, 2009 at 2:53 AM

Hey Allah & Ed, if you are so smitten with her, why do neither of you mention her name in the current three (3!) posts about her? The nancy boy’s name is mentioned lots, but nary a “Carrie Prejean” to be found.

She can use the name recognition for when she’s no longer “Miss Cali”.

ornery_independent on April 22, 2009 at 2:59 AM

Hey, if it doesn’t work out with Miss Arizona’s sister (Yea, her sister Lisa is better looking), then I’d be more than happy to take out Ms. CA.

Tim Burton on April 22, 2009 at 3:05 AM

I don’t think Ms North Carolina, the winner would have answered differently in her heart of hearts. I don’t think North Carolina was more liberal in gay marriage than California. Ms. Prejean is a gem, warm soul and very loving person. She is a wonderful face for traditional marriage and also for libertarian principles and also for the tea party movement. I believe we will hear more from her in the future.

eaglewingz08 on April 22, 2009 at 7:44 AM

Yeah, don’t worry about that type of person. Their ignorance and lack of higher education is humiliating themselves. We need not say anything. They are hanging themselves.

dcwvu on April 21, 2009 at 7:05 PM

One does not pick up a Penthouse Forum and read a hot story about two drunken college girls experimenting with what it’s like to be black with another girl.

But let’s play devil’s advocate. Let’s say that homosexuality is not a choice and it’s who they are. It’s part of their genetic makeup. It’s also been documented that homosexuality is a self-destructive lifestyle. But wait, there have been studies that suggest that those who are prone to addictions do so because it’s a part of their genetic makeup.
Drug additions and alcoholism are also self destructive lifestyles.

So why don’t we encourage alcholics and druggies to contineu their lifestyle chocies like we do with gays? It’s part of who they are, they shouldn’t be forced to hide it or change it. They should embrace it.

Answer that.

Pcoop on April 22, 2009 at 8:25 AM

I caught this on Cavuto and my jaw dropped. She is from California and she believes in conservative values. I thought all the smart people left California years ago….

I think California would be a red state if it weren’t for San Fransisco and Hollywood. I live in California and most of the people I have met are sound conservatives. It should be noted, though, that I live in the 21st district represented by Devin Nunes.

eaglescout1998 on April 22, 2009 at 8:50 AM

I just hope that, in the end of this scandal, Perez Hilton ends up losing more than Carrie Prejean. I think that’s a reasonable hope that has several ways of happening.

1) I’d think that Hilton has opened himself up to lawsuit for labeling Prejean a “dumb b!tc#” on his blog. She answered him with an opinion, and he attacked her with a degrading label.
2) In asking her that question, this guy (I am tempted to call him names, but I won’t as I’d be just as guilty as he is) has opened up a potentially explosively backfiring situation upon himself. In the greater debate of the worthiness of Prop 8, Hilton has just given the side that he opposes in philosophy and in sexual preference a rather smart, a rather eloquent, and, oh, in case you haven’t noticed, a rather beautiful spokeswoman. He should have considered that possibility before opening his mouth.

flutejpl on April 22, 2009 at 8:57 AM

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