yer young, right?

/unions — america’s vanguard of authoritarian collectivism for decades …
:-(

UAW has destroyed GM.

“Unions will bankrupt NYC”- Mayor Bloomberg (April 2009)

Haven’t the Unions destroyed enough?

If management happens to say in a meeting, “we really encourage you to vote the right way” that is a violation

Another violation of the 1st amendment. The courts are really to blame for this travesty as they either sanction it by silence or edict.

In this fight, the NLRB found many violations of law by management regarding their efforts to persuade the nurses not to unionize

Offering pencils to their employees to mark the ballots would be considered “violations”.
If management happens to say in a meeting, “we really encourage you to vote the right way” that is a violation. They cannot state anything the management is for, unless an official union representative is present. So even if a boss says, “be sure and vote”, he is now in violation.
But the union has total and frees access to employees at all times, and during breaks and lunches.
Basically management has to hire a union attorney and consultant to keep on staff during these times.
There has to be “violations” so when the union loses, they have some kind of case.

Whether pro or anti-union (I am anti), when people start changing the rules of voting, it means they are losing in an honest debate.

radiofreevillage on April 21, 2009 at 2:46 PM

+1, And same thing when they use judges to change the law.

They also are responsible for endless walkouts and strikes by nurses here. They “demand” a say in how the hospital is managed, which to my mind has nothing to do with nursing.

Keep voting them down!

My best friend in my early 20′s was a gal whose father ran Stran Steel. I saw union violence up close.

They shot at this friend’s house. Over nothing.

Want to know why we lost the steel industry?

It was due to unions.

Secret ballots WORK

originalpechanga on April 21, 2009 at 1:06 PM

I still don’t see how it can be constitutional to force a worker into a union just because a majority of his coworkers vote for it. That alone should be illegal.

For providing the opinion in her heart, rather than the politically correct response, Miss California has been ridiculed in some quarters and has even been called a b*tch and a c*nt by the judge who posed the question that she was required to answer. I don’t have a problem speaking my mind in groups, but many people have difficulties doing so. Hence, I’m not surprised that in the public card polls, the union gets a thumbs up, when, in a secret ballot, the union gets the thumbs down.

As far as the secret ballot goes, in the Miss USA pageant, it’s my understanding that the judges could hide their votes from the public–though may be not from each other–so that they could vote as they wish. Those are the rules of the game. I’m sure that we know how the Hilton clown voted, but the others get to keep their votes to themselves, if they choose.

Secret ballots are essential because they empower people to to vote their true desires when fear might prompt them to vote otherwise.

Thus begins a series of house and senate committee meetings to reform the BobMbx Voting Act.

BacaDog on April 21, 2009 at 1:24 PM

Ha ha! I sense a filibuster.

BTW, I have 20 fingers and toes (or tos in someplaces) combined. Using a rainbow selection of inks, up to 10 ballot choices can be indicated.

It should be obvious that only males will be allowed to vote for 3rd or independent party candidates. These votes will by necessity and decorum (excepting San Fran) remain secret, only because some votes would be bigger than others.

What lesson are we to take from this story? Is it that management intimidated the nurses so badly that they somehow forced the nurses to vote against unionization in secret, even though they had publicly signed cards supporting the organizing effort? Does that make any sense at all? The obvious explanation is that the act of getting signed cards does not accurately reflect the wishes of the workers, and that any intimidation that occurred would have impacted the card-check process — where people are public about their positions — rather than in the secret ballot that followed.

What this proves is that the Union was intimidating these people to sign the cards but that once they got behind closed doors and voted, their true intentions of now wanting a union prevailed. I once worked at a unionized shipyard in New OOrleans that built vessels for the U.S. Navy. Beleive me, unions do nothing but drive up the cost of building anything. We caught union workers sleeping on the job on an at least weekly basis. The union rules said 2 supervisors had to witness this before the person could be written up but not fired. So even if one member of management saw them sleeping, someone would wake and warn them before the supervisor could return with a second member of management.

Stop the world I want to get off! Where have all the adults gone?
Fuquay Steve on April 21, 2009 at 1:09 PM

The “Adults” have left the building.

When you don’t win, change the rules until you win. Classic Progressivism.
Weebork on April 21, 2009 at 1:15 PM

These “Adults” grew up in a world that let them do whatever they wanted just so their self esteem would not suffer. Now when they don’t get what they want they cannot accept it. So they call it unfair and change the rules….

He runs the Country just like the Quran. It can be changed daily with idics.