Has pot gone mainstream?
posted at 10:55 am on April 21, 2009 by Ed Morrissey
Maybe, but not because it got a snarky mention on an animated TV series. This CBS report on 4/20 Day leads with Family Guy‘s plot line as a major broadcast media statement and a cultural shift:
On yesterday’s episode of Fox’s animated sitcom “Family Guy,” one of the main characters – a dog named Brian – is arrested for possession of marijuana. He subsequently goes on a mission to legalize the drug, at one point earnestly arguing that it is only outlawed because William Randolph Hearst wanted to keep hemp production from hurting his paper interests in the 1930s.
Yes, the argument was articulated by an animated dog. And yes, the response from one of the other characters was, well, a fart. But still: Last night, a serious argument for marijuana legalization was articulated on a major American cable network during prime time.
It’s safe to say we’ve come a long way from “Reefer Madness,” the church-financed 1936 anti-marijuana propaganda film (also known as “Tell Your Children”) that suggested marijuana leads to murder and depravity. …
But there does seem to be a clear movement toward greater acceptance of marijuana use; positive representations of pot smokers are increasingly popping up on television (The Sarah Silverman Program, Real Time With Bill Maher) and in movies (Pineapple Express, The “Harold And Kumar” series.)
Tommy Christopher sardonically follows up with a quote from Scooby-Doo: “Zoinks!”
Brian Montopoli then cites Pineapple Express and Harold and Kumar Go To White Castle as evidence that a recent groundswell of support for marijuana legalization has begun. It’s cute in the same way that every generation of teenagers think they’ve discovered sex. Marijuana references in movies have been almost unendingly positive for decades now, and usually shown being smoked not by babbling potheads but mainstream, sympathetic characters. Animal House did it over 30 years ago (1978) with a college professor and three of the protagonists from the film, for one example, and it wasn’t particularly controversial at the time of its release. Blazing Saddles had its two main characters, Sheriff Bart and The Kid, toking up in 1974 as a demonstration of how cool they were. Both movies have been on network TV for decades.
That’s always been the contradiction with marijuana prohibition, as opposed to prohibitions on other substances. Most people don’t consider it that big of a threat, not at all in the same class as heroin or cocaine. It’s not even as deadly as alcohol; people die every year from alcohol overdoses, something that just doesn’t happen with marijuana. While it retains enough stigma to keep a significant number of people against outright legalization, most people understand it to be relatively as harmful as alcohol and treat it accordingly, in pop culture and in their lives.
Also, I’m not sure that The Sarah Silverman Show is intended to show any of the characters as a positive role model. And Montopoli realizes that Real Time is a political talk show and not a sitcom with fictional characters, doesn’t he?
I think that the push for legalization may be coming, but I don’t think we had a seminal moment in politics when Family Guy squeezed in a positive reference to marijuana between fart jokes. If and when the American public changes their minds on marijuana, it will be because the prohibition costs far more than it’s worth, both in terms of cash and in civil liberties, and not because Harold and Kumar went to White Castle, or the Family Guy dog went to jail.










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Eliminate Welfare.
Then “legalize” marijuana.
Loafing is a choice that must not be provided “entitlement”.
maverick muse on April 21, 2009 at 10:58 AM
Heh. How topical this is for me. Found my sibling’s pot pipe on top of her bag yesterday.
Caught her last summer doing it (IN OUR BACKYARD). Told me shed stop and to think I actually believed her!!!! Lil rat
Well big bro has the upper hand now.
blatantblue on April 21, 2009 at 10:59 AM
At the very least, drug tests for any sort of state or federal benefits. I’d add alcohol tests in there, just to avoid any issues.
lorien1973 on April 21, 2009 at 10:59 AM
Family Guy used to be my favorite show. This season, however, has completely sucked. He’s just coasting and tossing in random offensive jabs at the right.
BadgerHawk on April 21, 2009 at 10:59 AM
It’s way past time for decriminalizing marijuana.
LastRick on April 21, 2009 at 11:00 AM
OT: It breaks my heart to report this
NYT Co. 1Q losses worsen as ad sales plunge 27 pct
faraway on April 21, 2009 at 11:01 AM
Add to the ones you listed the Cheech and Chong movies and “That 70′s Show” on TV.
BacaDog on April 21, 2009 at 11:02 AM
I watched Family Guy when it debuted; you are correct, the constant jabs at the right are making it hard to watch. It’s like Sean Penn with movies, and Bruce Springsteen with music; when the artist pushes their politics, it becomes an appetite suppressant.
carbon_footprint on April 21, 2009 at 11:02 AM
That’s funny, because I’m absolutely loving this season. *shrug* To each his own.
strictnein on April 21, 2009 at 11:03 AM
Family Guy was hilarious.
A classic episode.
“All you need is a bag of weed”.
Hilarious.
getalife on April 21, 2009 at 11:05 AM
And they receive Pulitzers for articles that no one is reading.
thomasaur on April 21, 2009 at 11:05 AM
Geez! Are we going to have a “Pot is Kewl!” post a day here now?
Darksean on April 21, 2009 at 11:06 AM
My favorite season was when they came back from their ‘break’ and led off with a listing of every. single. show. that Fox had aired and pulled while Family Guy was on hold.
Too many lazy punchlines and ultra long sequences meant to just fill space in this season for my taste, though.
BadgerHawk on April 21, 2009 at 11:07 AM
Used to be that it’d be an equal opportunity offender, which is why it was funny. It has become a little hackish of late. Ever since it came back on the air a few years ago, it hasn’t been nearly as good.
lorien1973 on April 21, 2009 at 11:07 AM
Lets be fair.
If we do not prosecute torture and other crimes, we should legalize weed and illegal immigrants.
Fair and balance, if you will.
getalife on April 21, 2009 at 11:08 AM
If they legalize marijuana, it would make the unicorns easier to spot.
kingsjester on April 21, 2009 at 11:10 AM
Random? The guy’s just redoing whatever’s the YouTube hit du jour for the light stuff and then whatever’s on the Huffinton Post for the “heavy stuff”.
I also don’t find skinning a cat, “funny”. But hey, if that’s getalife’s thing I don’t see why he’s complaining about waterboarding…
Skywise on April 21, 2009 at 11:12 AM
Ignorant question: Weed is more/less dangerous than tobacco?
YYZ on April 21, 2009 at 11:12 AM
Proof that I have to end watching Family Guy, effective, immediately.
My views on pot: never been a smoker, but I do think that it should be legalized, but not promoted or commercialized.
It is a plant that requires no refinement. I choose not to smoke it, but I don’t want the government telling me that I can not grow something on my property.
Marijuana was demonized for political purposes with a racist agenda.
Legalize it, don’t commercialize it.
carbon_footprint on April 21, 2009 at 11:13 AM
It is part of the process. Seeing positive characters use marijuana influences young viewers. However, by itself seeing Seth Rogen baked, but harmless and funny, won’t push public opinion to the point of legalization.
What has happened through ineffective enforcement is that professionally successful people are able use the drug at-will while avoiding arrest and maintaining their careers. In an environment where weed is readily available and adults see other adults using it with consequences less severe than heavy drinking the opinion could shift to a pragmatic consideration of tax revenues and police priorities.
dedalus on April 21, 2009 at 11:13 AM
Let’s legalize everything “I” want to do. Oh, also, anything “I” want to do must be socially acceptable too. While we’re at it, let’s demonize anyone that tries to make anything “I” want to do morally wrong. Typical liberal thinking… unless you’re fiscally conservative, then you get to be a cool libertarian.
CC
CapedConservative on April 21, 2009 at 11:13 AM
MJ will never be legal and it shouldn’t be and this article is dumb. Pot references in entertainment past mainstream and moved on to passe years ago.
What’s next after MJ, Coke? It isn’t really bad unless you abuse it right?
There are plenty of high functioning people who use Coke, or a legal equivalent, everyday. It’s probably isn’t much worse for you than Redbull at this point.
Rocks on April 21, 2009 at 11:13 AM
I’m for legalization of pot. Get the stupid issue off the table and lets move on to something important, like, I don’t know, OUR CONSTITUTION BEING SHREDDED!!!
RWLA on April 21, 2009 at 11:14 AM
I don’t know what I think about the subject. I watched “High” yesterday, and I see the points in legalizing it. I’m all for legalizing it for cancer patients and for testing to see if we can find cures with it, but I really don’t buy the whole thing that if you legalize it more teenagers won’t smoke it. I don’t know. I’m still on the fence.
deidre on April 21, 2009 at 11:14 AM
I think it more comes down to the idea that people have the right to be stupid. If they wanna be stupid, I’m fine with it. As long as I’m not footing the bill for it.
lorien1973 on April 21, 2009 at 11:17 AM
As long as you’re willing to keep financing and supporting the folks cutting off policemen’s heads in Tijuana, keep on tokin’.
edgehead on April 21, 2009 at 11:17 AM
lorien1973 on April 21, 2009 at 11:17 AM
Taxpayers get the bill for everything.
CC
CapedConservative on April 21, 2009 at 11:18 AM
I have never bought the medical argument either. if it’s effective for some people then make a pill form. Smoking for cancer patients seems a good idea really?
And if this is okay why nod just let chronic pain sufferers smoke opium?
Rocks on April 21, 2009 at 11:18 AM
When I was in high school it was far easier for me to get pot than beer. Did we still get beer? yep, but it wasn’t always easy and we didn’t always succeed. Weed on the other hand, was no more than 3 phone calls away.
trubble on April 21, 2009 at 11:18 AM
Did the Nazi wearing a “McCain/Palin” pin rub you the wrong way?
Tom_Shipley on April 21, 2009 at 11:18 AM
Gene Wilder’s character was nicknamed The Waco Kid.
Siekierski on April 21, 2009 at 11:18 AM
What I’ve never been able to figure out….
It took a Constitutional Amendment to outlaw Alcohol… but just a law to do it to Pot?
Never have been able to figure out how that makes any sense.
Romeo13 on April 21, 2009 at 11:19 AM
I’d go farther and more controversial and say any woman on government assistance should have her tubes tied. If she can’t take care of herself without government assistance, she can’t take care of more babies. Go off government assistance and government will untie your tubes. It is a reversible procedure.
ThackerAgency on April 21, 2009 at 11:19 AM
You’re just getting to that point in this season? I quit watching about 2-3 years ago when the blatant conservative-bashing and Republican-bashing went over the top even for Seth MacFarlane.
I’d have thought the episode with Stewie and Brian as Nazis wearing a Sarah Palin button would have done it if you had to bring up one single scene.
teke184 on April 21, 2009 at 11:20 AM
Didn’t the “Up in Smoke” album by Cheech and Chong come with a huge rolling paper?
I like the Family Guy. Brian is a libtard but he’s always compromising his beliefs and whatnot. Just like real life.
dingbat on April 21, 2009 at 11:21 AM
Hospitals and nursing homes give patients morphine all the time. Studies have shown that while carcinogens are in marijuana smoke, it doesn’t lead to cancer the way tobacco smoke does.
ThackerAgency on April 21, 2009 at 11:22 AM
Yeah. I’m there as well.
OT – this should be the most epic thread of the week. No post.
End game is near, guys.
What’s significant about this? Read the TPM on this and look at their logic.
And say to yourself, “yeah, and in 2006, there weren’t any defaults with Fannie Mae, either.”
lorien1973 on April 21, 2009 at 11:23 AM
No it was ‘Big Bambu”
thomasaur on April 21, 2009 at 11:23 AM
That’s part of it. lorien’s right that Family Guy used to take jabs at both sides. That’s what makes South Park so funny. They use fresh material and go after everyone.
My biggest beef with the show is how lazy the writing has gotten. Lots of recycled bits that are funny the 2nd or 3rd time, but not the 5th of 6th. I still watch it, so I guess I can’t complain too much.
BadgerHawk on April 21, 2009 at 11:24 AM
Another situation where the law of unintended consequences will come rearing it’s ungly head…
catmman on April 21, 2009 at 11:25 AM
Huh? Did someone die of weed?
Joe Caps on April 21, 2009 at 11:25 AM
Marijuana is illegal because “it makes Negroes rape white women.”
The Monster on April 21, 2009 at 11:26 AM
Or was that Mexicans?
The Monster on April 21, 2009 at 11:26 AM
I didn’t see that episode, but it would have for the reasons I stated above.
I get my political fix on the Internet. When I watch a movie, listen to music or watch an adult cartoon, I don’t want to experience liberal masturbation.
carbon_footprint on April 21, 2009 at 11:26 AM
Seth McFarlane has become the biggest asshole in television. I read he compared his show to “All in the Family.” Seriously? His show doesn’t come even close. Arrogant prick. He deserves to have his ass kicked across L.A. just for talking about Laura Bush running over a classmate when she was 17 in one episode. It was a little soundbyte, but it still pissed me off.
NathanG on April 21, 2009 at 11:27 AM
Legalize the stuff and let’s move on. We have so many other problems to solve.
Enough already, and we can deal with the inevitable minor problems using drug tests for traffic offenses and job interviews.
pabarge on April 21, 2009 at 11:27 AM
I’m kind of surprised there hasn’t been a post or two on HotAir about that. Scary stuff.
BadgerHawk on April 21, 2009 at 11:28 AM
I generally don’t waste time on hate. And hate is a very strong word. But let me just say I HATE what Frank has done and is doing to this country. HE is a primary reason for this fiasco and he has the nerve to grill hard working executives for poor management.
Frank won’t get investigated because he’s gay. I wonder if the militant gay community still thinks that this mainstreaming of their behavior is still not harmful to this country. He’s not awful because he’s gay. But because he’s gay, if we say he’s awful, he says it’s just because we are ‘homophobic’. It’s like his eternal get out of jail free card. THROW HIM IN JAIL!
ThackerAgency on April 21, 2009 at 11:29 AM
IIRC, it was first propaganda about the danger of Mexicans.
I think it was recycled later to demonize the blacks.
carbon_footprint on April 21, 2009 at 11:29 AM
The trick is to watch is stoned. Then the jokes seems fresh every time!
SouthernDem on April 21, 2009 at 11:29 AM
Yeah, I understand that. I’m just not sure though. I get the argument that if beer and tobacco are legalized, pot should be as well, but I’m still not sure. I still think tons of kids will smoke it just like they’ll keep drinking. If it gets legalized, I don’t think I would be against it; I’m just not sure I am for it yet.
deidre on April 21, 2009 at 11:29 AM
lol. And munchie sales would skyrocket!
scalleywag on April 21, 2009 at 11:30 AM
Ed, sorry, but that’s just demonstrably not true. Alcohol does far more damage, both individually and socially, than marijuana.
(And let me be perfectly clear that I don’t support prohibition of either. Whatever the evils of either may be, they pale compared to the destruction wreaked by the War on (Some) Drugs.)
CTD on April 21, 2009 at 11:30 AM
Legalize Pot – Ban Liberals
Wine_N_Dine on April 21, 2009 at 11:31 AM
BadgerHawk on April 21, 2009 at 11:24 AM
I only recently started watching the show, mostly the reruns on TBS, so can’t really gauge the progression of the show.
One thing I don’t like are how they use pop-culture references on their own as a punch line — basically reenacting scenes from a movie or TV show without any twist. That seems rather lazy to me — and, not funny.
Tom_Shipley on April 21, 2009 at 11:31 AM
Alcohol is a drug. Anyone getting tested, pay your own way.
+1 at the very least.
Until people accept personal responsibility for their choices, no legalization will “help” societal problems that drug-heads cause.
Any rehab provided by tax funds should entail societal contributions from those utilizing the resource, because cultivating personal responsibility requires making a positive contribution of SERVICE. It’s the “blessing” lesson: better to give than to receive; receive but give. Otherwise, promote the perpetuation enabling the addiction. Unintended consequences have a cost.
maverick muse on April 21, 2009 at 11:31 AM
Legalize it.
Booze, legal. Cigarettes, legal. Pot, illegal? C’mon now.
JetBoy on April 21, 2009 at 11:32 AM
What? You didn’t hear about the man in Houston who got high on pot and took out a family of five in a car crash?
You didn’t hear about the woman in Sacramento who got stoned on pot and was gang raped by 4 men?
You didn’t hear about the guy in Virgina that smoked pot and beat his wife within an inch of her life?
Me neither.
It doesn’t happen.
carbon_footprint on April 21, 2009 at 11:34 AM
Why wouldn’t that be ok? Are you afraid somebody with debilitating pain or a chronic illness is going to go on some opium-fueled crime spree? Or get involved in white slavery?
Do you even know what opium does?
CTD on April 21, 2009 at 11:35 AM
And perhaps more obese people to help destroy the world thru global warming?
deidre on April 21, 2009 at 11:35 AM
Or was that Mexicans?
The Monster on April 21, 2009 at 11:26 AM
Yes, it was the Mexicans.
They blamed “cocaine” for making black men rape white women.
elderberry on April 21, 2009 at 11:35 AM
You on torture, accept your prosecution.
maverick muse on April 21, 2009 at 11:35 AM
Tough to get away with that in my profession.
The reruns on TBS are from earlier seasons and are some of the better shows. I have the first 4 seasons on DVD so I don’t watch them on tv much. I like the Seinfeld reruns, though.
BadgerHawk on April 21, 2009 at 11:35 AM
It’s one of those things that doesn’t really matter if it’s illegal or not, people who use it are going to find it and buy it, same as alcohol or tobacco. People who smoke it don’t belong in jail, however, and I’d rather they were able to go down the street and buy a joint instead of having to buy it on a street corner from someone they don’t know.
scalleywag on April 21, 2009 at 11:36 AM
Good idea. And as said above, get rid of welfare & see how many have time to smoke pot, or booze it up, for that matter.
Pot is still bad for you, but I agree alcohol & tobacco are probably worse. In the end, I vote to keep harder drugs that are easier to kill yourself with illegal.
And BTW-potheads experience a higher rate of infertility,as well as Vegans (AKA liberals).
Let’s just let them breed (or lack thereof) themselves out of existence.
Badger40 on April 21, 2009 at 11:36 AM
ahahaha, zing!
scalleywag on April 21, 2009 at 11:37 AM
Slippery slope.
Just sayin’.
Badger40 on April 21, 2009 at 11:38 AM
Also, Road Trip (2000). The character who smokes pot is a genius in the movie.
Michael in MI on April 21, 2009 at 11:38 AM
It’s not a coincidence that drug prohibitions coincided with the begining of the Socialist movement in America. The only reason I could possibly have for wanting to control your body is if I have a vested interest in it. If you want to make yourself artificially happy, hey, knock yourself out – literally. BUT I’M NOT PAYING FOR IT.
This is where the libertarian movement went off track. The liberals set up the American collectivist state the way a terrorist wires a bomb; we can’t destroy it without destroying everything else; we must dismantle it. We need to get our priorities in order and take this one step at a time.
logis on April 21, 2009 at 11:40 AM
That’s a fact. They just might appear on a magazine cover in their bathing suit though hahahaha
scalleywag on April 21, 2009 at 11:40 AM
I agree with that, though not with legalization.
Completely agree. I mean yes, we get it, Seth, you don’t like Fox even though you’re on Fox. It’s not controversial to rail on the station anymore considering Fox obviously doesn’t care what you think.
How do you expect that to happen?
Only because you knew the right people to call. That’s not common. Most high schoolers don’t have a single connection to pot, but every single one of them can sit outside a liquor store waiting for someone to buy them alcohol.
I’m sorry, but I just don’t buy the idea that pot is easier to get than alcohol. And there’s no reason to believe that would become harder to get a hold of once it’s legalized. That’s completely illogical.
It’s also serious surgery. And are you saying you want to pay for it, both times? And what about the men? They still get to impregnate women they can’t afford to take care of?
Esthier on April 21, 2009 at 11:40 AM
Also, I believe they smoke pot (or at least something similar) in all the Lord of the Rings movies. The hobbits smoke it, Gandalf smokes it and even Aragorn smokes it in order to dream.
Michael in MI on April 21, 2009 at 11:40 AM
Let me clarify. I actually enjoy The Sarah Silverman Show (it’s a guilty pleasure). Not only is Ed right on this, but there was even an episode where Sarah would get high regularly (it was a schism between “Normal Sarah” and “High Sarah”, where High Sarah would leave message for Normal Sarah on her cell phone). In that episode, it showed just how screwed up Sarah was while high, and Normal Sarah told her what an idiot she was while high, and to stop smoking pot.
Hardly positive.
CatsGodot on April 21, 2009 at 11:41 AM
But I do like that they poke fun at their own story structure… like the scene last week where Lois said “Peter’s so stoned he can’t even finish a sentence to run a clip scene”
“Remember that time when… I … uh … That’s like when I…oh man… uh…coz…”
I don’t mind the pot shots at my sacred cows, that’s the whole point of humor. But if it’s one sided and especially if it doesn’t lead to a higher talking point (IE Like South Park does) it gets old real fast.
The whole South Park/Family Guy storyline was much more deeper and meaningful than anything Family Guy has done… and that showed Jesus pooping on George Bush because Comedy Central allowed that but refused to allow ANY images of Muhammad good or bad.
“So how’s that novel you’ve been workin’ on?”
Skywise on April 21, 2009 at 11:41 AM
As if we don’t have enough trouble with alcohol. I watched excessive pot use destroy the motivation of many of my friends in the 70s; lots of very bright people just faded into an uncaring state, including the brightest friend I had and the top math whiz in my high school (last known to be running a hole-in-the-wall restaurant out in the sticks).
Not that you can’t get brain-dead on a lot of other things; World of Warcraft for one. I would challenge anytone to show that the worst of the WOW world are NOT suffering psychosomatic addiction to that online video game.
Adding to the collection of legal ways to drop out of the world just makes little sense today.
michaelo on April 21, 2009 at 11:41 AM
Good grief. Where the hell did that come from?
scalleywag on April 21, 2009 at 11:42 AM
It’d make for an interesting wedge issue. Lotsa people are ticked at Obama for denouncing this. The GOP could use this as a rallying cry for less government more freedom and pick up groups pretty quickly.
Skywise on April 21, 2009 at 11:44 AM
Stuff starts out small, argument ends up being used in other areas.
If you think that’s paranoid, just look at the examples of our overreaching govt provides.
Give ‘em inch, they’ll take a mile.
Badger40 on April 21, 2009 at 11:45 AM
It’s easy; pass the law (or rescind the law).
Don’t promote it or commercialize it. Treat it as any other plant.
However, if the free market and demand is there, allow farmers to cultivate it and make a profit. Still has to undergo any basic regulation that tobacco undergoes.
But don’t allow the government to tax it too death as they do tobacco.
carbon_footprint on April 21, 2009 at 11:46 AM
The ‘visions’ experienced by native cultures?
Hmmm…..
Badger40 on April 21, 2009 at 11:46 AM
Yea and maybe if it were legal the media wouldn’t be able to go ape and try to ruin people’s careers over a bong hit, either.
scalleywag on April 21, 2009 at 11:46 AM
That and the gag where they keep something going for minutes longer than is funny. Yeah, that got old after the second time.
No, the trick is to have a lobotomy. No high is that good.
It was more than a soundbyte. They had Lois dress up like the man she killed for Halloween and brought it up more than once. Not that they’ve ever taken on Kennedy…
Esthier on April 21, 2009 at 11:46 AM
From what I noticed, Family Guy jumped the shark when it became more political. I saw this happened shortly after the South Park episode that said that FG scripts were written by manatees dropping balls with words printed on them into certain holes to come up with jokes.
After that, FG tried to be like South Park and they fail miserably.
Pcoop on April 21, 2009 at 11:47 AM
That’s true, pot smokers are historically very engaged with the political process.
Rocks on April 21, 2009 at 11:47 AM
They tried just growing the hemp here in ND & what a frigging circus that was even though it wasn’t the kind containing the drug.
Badger40 on April 21, 2009 at 11:47 AM
LOL. AS IF Legalization solves all problems.
Do not presume that children experimenting with drugs to be cool like big kids are not psychologically affected, beyond the experience, by the status of the experience.
The legal standing defending those victimized by drugs must remain in effect.
Per marijuana, deal with the specifics of prosecution. But simply dismissing the issue does not deal with the abusive effects that drug use has on society.
It takes a drug addicted mind to argue that the drug must be legalized across the board.
The younger generation is a drug addicted generation, raised to be addicted as a matter of convenience and as a means to profit the pharmaceutical industry as well as the illicit drug industry.
Before arguing that point, clean out your system, pea brains.
maverick muse on April 21, 2009 at 11:48 AM
You know that wouldn’t stop them.
They’d just find something else to ruin people with.
Badger40 on April 21, 2009 at 11:49 AM
Lets be fair.
If we do not prosecute torture and other crimes, we should legalize weed and illegal immigrants.
Fair and balance, if you will.
getalife on April 21, 2009 at 11:08 AM
I’m sure you’re salivating about now. Entitlements, able to sit on your butt the rest of your life, while hard working people support you, and now pot too? Wow!!!
If they try on the basis of the memos, then that means all the democrats who knew before hand about this, should be tried as well. They put their seal of approval on it.
capejasmine on April 21, 2009 at 11:50 AM
I can’t speak to high school now, but in the late 80′s/early ’90′s just after the peak of the “Just say no” stuff, Pot was definitely easier to get than alcohol, and I’d be willing to bet the majority of kids I went to school with would have had an easier time getting Pot than alcohol. I could speculate as to the why’s ( the town in which I grew up is very low crime, and the cops actually had time to prosecute sales of alcohol to minors, and ran sting operations to keep the stores in line) and it is merely one person’s experience, but alcohol was harder to get than pot, because it was legal, but regulated.
trubble on April 21, 2009 at 11:50 AM
uhhh uhhhhh lets see
1. drug pushers out of business, or taxed heavily
2. no reason for these morons to kill each other over a bag of weed.
3. government and everone else doesn’t care what happens on my back porch after midnight.
4. tax the crap out of it, pay off the national debt, buy stock in Doritos.
5. Libtards too stoned to vote.
any questions?
UNREPENTANT CONSERVATIVE CAPITOLIST on April 21, 2009 at 11:51 AM
Wonderful point.
The legality of doing any kind of drug, or addicting behavior really lies in the society itself.
Making stuff legal or illegal does not stop someone from adopting something that’s addictive.
Society & culture are responsible for that.
The guilt your mother gave you was far worse punishment than her actually spanking you for it.
Badger40 on April 21, 2009 at 11:51 AM
As per Family Guy, it never took here.
Appreciate the original Simpson episodes and some new ones, and chuckle with kick ass King of the Hill stereotypes.
maverick muse on April 21, 2009 at 11:53 AM
Yeah broseph, I totally do pot on the reg. Drugs on the reg. Sex on the reg. Crunk on the reg. Yeah, I’m totally anti-establishment and I reject authority in all forms (except for Jon Stewart, Stephen Colbert, Bill Maher, Michael Moore, Barack Obama, Keith Olbermann, Rachel Maddow, Markus Moulistas, Ariana Huffington, and those crazy kids at Gawker.)
Yeah, I’m the sort of intelligent free-thinking irreverent youthful person that the Republican party has to win over in order to win elections. Does it matter if I’m so stoned out of my mind that I forget to drive to the polls and end up crapping my pants while waiting in line at a Taco Bell drive-thru instead?
Tell you what, Rethuglicans, legalize dope and give me more handouts and perhaps I’ll consider not slandering you on Digg anymore. Peace out, Indiana Pwns.
And add a major / to that.
Tacitus_SGL on April 21, 2009 at 11:54 AM
It also depends upon the area of course you live in.
Here in ND alcohol is the drug of choice bcs the parents are in on addicting their kids since so many N. Dakotans I know are alcoholics.
Not growing up here, I was shocked at the permissive attitude everyone here has about their kids drinking.
They buy the stuff for their kids!
In Oct ’05 we had 2 kids died in a drunken driving accident (driver was drunk & so was passenger) & a few weeks later the brother to one of the dead kids was out DRINKING.
So the community is basically at fault here.
The community has to physically do their part or it doesn’t matter whether something’s illegal or not.
Badger40 on April 21, 2009 at 11:55 AM
Politicians are always looking for something they can give to the people that will cost them (the politicians) nothing, so that they can buy people’s votes.
There is one reason why marijuana and other drugs have not yet been legalized by politicians eager to buy votes (remember this is the only valid reason for a politician to give anybody anything – except maybe to get a kickback for themselves or a family member). The reason is that there is no guarantee that a pot head is going to remember to vote for you come election day if he/she happens to be high at the time. And if they do remember to vote, will they remember who to vote for? They might think it is all a joke and wind up voting for the other guy.
Ordinary American on April 21, 2009 at 11:58 AM
Actually one of the reasons I used to smoke was so that I WOULD NOT dream. My dreams are very vivid, and lots of them have actually somewhat foretold the future. When I used to smoke, I wouldn’t dream. . . so I would sleep better.
You people don’t even want to know what happens in my dreams. It scares me into being disengaged. . . and people would never believe it anyway.
ThackerAgency on April 21, 2009 at 11:58 AM
The names of the tobacco in Lord of the Rings is just the location where it was grown. It’s in the books.
rihar on April 21, 2009 at 11:58 AM
Check election results.
The SNL loser managed to get enough votes counted his way from Minnesota.
maverick muse on April 21, 2009 at 11:58 AM
And how do you think any of this will prevent it from being commercialized?
What would stop someone from opening up a “coffee” shop or a whole chain? A new line of cookies or brownies, or even tea?
In fact, not taxing it heavily will only help.
Esthier on April 21, 2009 at 11:59 AM
Alcohol may very well be a more destructive force than marijuana, but that doesn’t mean there is anything whatsoever that’s positive about marijuana.
Using a mind-altering chemical to get your “recreation” is pathetic and stupid, and legal or not, that will always be true.
calabrese on April 21, 2009 at 12:00 PM
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