Napolitano: Returning vets too stupid to avoid extremists
posted at 9:26 am on April 20, 2009 by Ed Morrissey
Janet Napolitano continues to thrash around for any rationalization she can find for the DHS report that painted political organizing on abortion, federalism, and immigration as potential national-security threats and called returining military vets a danger to the country they served. Yesterday on CNN, Napolitano tried explaining that the DHS doesn’t see these vets as threats. The DHS sees them as saps who don’t know any better than to fall into extremist traps:
Homeland Security Secretary Janet Napolitano on Sunday portrayed veterans as victims – not perpetrators – of right-wing extremism as she sought to combat the political controversy arising out of an April 14 Homeland Security memo warning that returning soldiers could be ripe for domestic terrorism participation.
“The report is not saying that veterans are extremists. Far from it,” Napolitano said on CNN’s State of the Union. “What it is saying is returning veterans are targets of right-wing extremist groups that are trying to recruit those to commit violent acts within the country. We want to do all we can to prevent that.”
Yes, the poor dears are victims that obviously can’t decide themselves not to join violent groups … none of which the report bothers to name, by the way. Unlike the report on left-wing extremism, which names several known groups with track records of violence, the DHS report that Napolitano continues to defend never bothers to name an actual threat. Instead, it repeatedly states that DHS has no data on actual threats:
The DHS/Office of Intelligence and Analysis (I&A) has no specific information that domestic rightwing* terrorists are currently planning acts of violence, but rightwing extremists may be gaining new recruits by playing on their fears about several emergent issues.
And how does the DHS identify “domestic rightwing* terrorists”?
Rightwing extremism in the United States can be broadly divided into those groups, movements, and adherents that are primarily hate-oriented (based on hatred of particular religious, racial or ethnic groups), and those that are mainly antigovernment, rejecting federal authority in favor of state or local authority, or rejecting government authority entirely. It may include groups and individuals that are dedicated to a single issue, such as opposition to abortion or immigration.
So the Federalist Society has gone from being a group that follows the Constitutional tradition to being a potentially dangerous extremist group! And what did the report actually say about veterans? Page 2, the first mention of veterans in the report, makes veterans sound more like perps than victims:
The possible passage of new restrictions on firearms and the return of military veterans facing significant challenges reintegrating into their communities could lead to the potential emergence of terrorist groups or lone wolf extremists capable of carrying out violent attacks.
That doesn’t say that terrorist groups will exploit senseless veterans and trick them into becoming violent terrorists. It presumes that veterans have a predisposition to become violent extremists because of the difficulties that they have “reintegrating into their communities.” It’s the latest corollary to the every-Vietnam-vet-is-a-powderkeg belief. It’s not until two pages later that the report mentions the issue of recruitment and radicalization. And on page 8, we get this rather large section header:
(U) Disgruntled Military Veterans
Napolitano is not only condescending towards veterans in her latest rationalization, she’s being completely dishonest about the way the DHS assessment treats returning combat vets. The report identifies them as a potential national-security threat to the country which they defended on the front lines.
DHS needs to stick to watching the groups themselves, and not people exercising their First Amendment rights and returning military veterans. In fact, the first thing Napolitano should do is to actually get threat data, instead of making up a bunch of scare stories about political dissent while not bothering to identify actual known racist and white-supremacist groups with track records of violence who should be watched.










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This is a misleading thread. She didn’t say that
nice343 on April 20, 2009 at 9:29 AM
When will DHS warn us about the leftwing extremists that teach at Universities?
Will SOMEONE please ask her about former terrorists TEACHING our students?
artist on April 20, 2009 at 9:30 AM
nice343 on April 20, 2009 at 9:29 AM
You’re too dumb to understand the irony.
artist on April 20, 2009 at 9:31 AM
Perhaps she’d like to enumerate one or two of the right wing groups to which she is referring. Could the Republican Party be one of them?
unclesmrgol on April 20, 2009 at 9:32 AM
True, but she implied it. Regardless, the woman(and I’m being generous with that term) is digging herself a deeper hole everytime she opens her trap. Which is why we need to keep hammering away. This must end in one of two ways: 1) a complete retraction of the DHS report and a public apology by Obama himself; or 2) Napolitano’s firing.
Doughboy on April 20, 2009 at 9:32 AM
Don’t worry about the MSA on campus.
Look the other way. Now.
Do it
Do it now
Now now
Do it
Do it now
blatantblue on April 20, 2009 at 9:33 AM
Janet Napolitano is spot-on. Here’s video PROOF of the dangers we face from returning soldiers trying to subvert the rule-of-law, challenge civil society, intimidate the law-abiding, and subvert our democratic system.
JiangxiDad on April 20, 2009 at 9:33 AM
Please add my name to the “domestic right wing terrorists” list.
theRealMcCoy on April 20, 2009 at 9:34 AM
I choose this.
anniekc on April 20, 2009 at 9:35 AM
Obama could, of course, preempt these rightwing extremists by quashing their “emergent issues”. Then we wouldn’t see so many vets over here on HotAir.
unclesmrgol on April 20, 2009 at 9:36 AM
This. This is what I choose. Can I use the half cup of coffee excuse again?
anniekc on April 20, 2009 at 9:36 AM
nice343 on April 20, 2009 at 9:29 AM
Ed was boiling down the spirit of both the original document and what she has been saying on the “let’s try to cover our rears” video tour of the talking heads. But, you probably knew that already. You just wanted to complain about the thread.
kingsjester on April 20, 2009 at 9:37 AM
This report is almost akin to putting children on the list because “Someday they’re going to grow up and who knows what could happen to them then?”
HarryStar on April 20, 2009 at 9:38 AM
Often people who post first on a thread have no jobs, no real worth, they sit at the computer looking to be the first to post, and we would like to take whatever opportunity there is to try and make these people as productive as possible.
They will sit, with a stock statement, waiting to post it, we feel this is non-productive and, although not a troll, they try to control the thread with controversial statement.
We will work to make them intellectually more honest, give more thought, and make them better posters.
Not all are that way, but we see a disturbing pattern.
See how that works?
right2bright on April 20, 2009 at 9:39 AM
So we’re going back to the ‘good old days’ of focusing our resources on rooting out domestic threats like Randy Weaver and the Branch Davidians while the real threats regroup.
thomasaur on April 20, 2009 at 9:39 AM
3) All of the above
canditaylor68 on April 20, 2009 at 9:39 AM
Dissing our Vets is down right rude and unacceptable.
hawkman on April 20, 2009 at 9:39 AM
Imagine for one second if there were a Republican in the White House and the subject dealt with any reference to the left. Surely Katie Couric, CNN, Chris Matthews and friends would still just yawn – kinda like they’re doing now.
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perroviejo on April 20, 2009 at 9:40 AM
It doesn’t make much difference what she said, the report speaks for itself. Written in haste by someone that doesn’t have a clue just as she doesn’t. She hasn’t resigned and she should. I don’t feel safe with any of those Libs in charge. We are all in danger with that crowd in power.
When I found out Bill Ayers’ profession was not an English professor, but an education one, it all became quite clear what the new guys had in store for us. Everyone in DC is 100% toxic. We can only slow them down. We will be fighting for four years. Get in shape and get started.
BetseyRoss on April 20, 2009 at 9:40 AM
Napolitano has to go. This issue isn’t going away.
It’s becoming more apparent, daily, thst she has a deep seated antipathy toward Military Veterans.
If I were to hazard a guess it might have something to do with her sexual predilection.
But I don’t give a sh*t why she labels Vets as potential terrorists, I just want her fired.
She’s more dangerous than any of the people she tried to demonize.
there it is on April 20, 2009 at 9:41 AM
Oh that Janet, she’s such a good looking dude…
soulsirkus on April 20, 2009 at 9:42 AM
The obvious question is exactly what does she intend to do? I remember seeing one of the funniest shows on TV where government “infiltrated” a supposed dangerous groups. Good gravy, they were a group of aging hippies who got together literally for cookies and coffee to talk about the war. I think our “intelligence” agencies have real problems with sheer competence.
AnninCA on April 20, 2009 at 9:42 AM
Not a woman, A T.I.T. Totally Ignorant Twit
oldernwiser on April 20, 2009 at 9:44 AM
So, according to Miss Nappy, I (as a vet) am not evil, I’m stupid…and evil.
jgapinoy on April 20, 2009 at 9:46 AM
who voted for her confirmation?
kelley in virginia on April 20, 2009 at 9:47 AM
Right. As if all racists and anti-religion hacks align themselves with the Republican party come voting time. The logic there is awesome.
fiscallyconservative on April 20, 2009 at 9:47 AM
FIFY.
Flyover Country on April 20, 2009 at 9:47 AM
But Charles Johnson and Little Green Footballs says right wingers are extremists and that Ms. Napolitano is correct.
That is because some alleged Neo Nazi was found with dirty bomb materials in his house (he was shot by his wife) and that means all right wingers are of the same cloth.
I guess I missed the memo that said Nazis are part of the right wing movement.
But do not challenge Charles on that or he will ban you. Nazis are right wingers and it is guilt by association. Get with the program or the Litte Green Cowards will come for you.
Mr. Joe on April 20, 2009 at 9:48 AM
Viewing those who enlist as less intelligent, and victims of circumstances beyond their control has been standard liberal boilerplate for several generations.
MarkTheGreat on April 20, 2009 at 9:48 AM
Perhaps Miss Napolitano is envious of Susan Boyle, the other never-been-kissed 50-ish woman in the news, & she sees this as a way to get in with the Hollywood crowd.
jgapinoy on April 20, 2009 at 9:48 AM
It is liberals and leftists who see people first and foremost as belonging to groups and not as individuals – therefore it is probably more accurate to call racist hate groups left wing groups and not right wing groups. Discuss.
Sheerq on April 20, 2009 at 9:48 AM
So anyone who believes the 10th ammendment actually means what it says, is part of a hate group?
MarkTheGreat on April 20, 2009 at 9:49 AM
Didn’t Congress request she supply data she used to generate this report?
JeffinSac on April 20, 2009 at 9:51 AM
BS.
cons don’t care about the troops.
They want our Commander In Chief to fail in a time of war.
getalife on April 20, 2009 at 9:51 AM
People still visited his site?
JeffinSac on April 20, 2009 at 9:53 AM
right2bright on April 20, 2009 at 9:39 AM/
Well said, Thanks for that.
RWR on April 20, 2009 at 9:54 AM
Charles jumped the shark over a year ago, all it took was a conservative push on Intelligent Design to make him lose his mind and all ability at Reason and Logic.
he sure can construct a straw man
jp on April 20, 2009 at 9:55 AM
So, military veterans who spent years fighting FOR our government, getting shot at and possibly injured FOR our government, are suddenly going to turn AGAINST our government. Riiiight.
So, she wants to take everyone’s guns away, and the only people left with guns will be military vets, and OMG we’ve got a junta or a coup d’etat!
Earth to Nappy: Cops have guns too, for a good reason. Or does she plan on taking their guns away too?
Steve Z on April 20, 2009 at 9:55 AM
The only returning vet I can think of that jumped from the battle field into an extremist group was JOHN KERRY.
Only a RWE can put these 2 facts together.
Bicyea on April 20, 2009 at 9:56 AM
And I guess you didn’t say THIS, you anti-semitic schmuck.
Attila (Pillage Idiot) on April 20, 2009 at 9:56 AM
This thread is about Napolitano, not Obama’s conduct as CIC. Nice try, though, seabiscuit!
Mr. D on April 20, 2009 at 9:57 AM
Therein lies the problem…these people are sworn in to protect and uphold the Constitution and they don’t have a f*#%*ing clue–only in the most shallow sense–what this document really means. The Leftist “elitist” mind is the true scourge on our great, civil society.
Napolitano should go back to pro-wrestling…
RepubChica on April 20, 2009 at 9:57 AM
Ed,
You don’t have a problem with how the FBI has treated the problem of hate groups targeting returning vets. But you have a problem with how the DHS security has treated it.
The FBI said that war vets are targets of recruitment for these hate groups. You’re OK with that.
The DHS says war vets are target of recruitement for hate groups, you’re not ok with that.
Please, explain the difference again?
Tom_Shipley on April 20, 2009 at 9:58 AM
someone check behind me because it i read that Napolitano was confirmed by voice vote in Senate. ha ha. so none of them can be blamed!
kelley in virginia on April 20, 2009 at 10:00 AM
In over her head?
http://citytavern.wordpress.com/2009/04/19/a-veterans-perspective-on-the-dhs-drivel/
Dr Evil on April 20, 2009 at 10:00 AM
Are you Charles Johnson, Nice343? Anyway, what did she say? Are the quotes inaccurate or incomplete? Justify yourself, please.
zeebeach on April 20, 2009 at 10:01 AM
Is Hot Air a domestic right wing terrorists group? I’m a Vet so I guess she’s right.
Dingbat63 on April 20, 2009 at 10:02 AM
It’s as well sourced as the original.
obladioblada on April 20, 2009 at 10:03 AM
Janet Napolitano cannot defend or explain away her irrational suspicion of and hatred toward tens of millions of Americans.
But I hope she keeps trying, because to the camera, she’s not as pretty as Obama, and she doesn’t have Obama’s teleprompter skills. So, it’s easier to discern that she’s a left-wing bigot who poses a clear and present danger to our nation’s constitution.
Janet Napolitano typifies the new Ugly American.
Loxodonta on April 20, 2009 at 10:03 AM
I’m sure its being monitored for political reasons, under the guise of National Security via “right wing extremism”
jp on April 20, 2009 at 10:03 AM
Perhaps the Obamacrats should be worried about returning vets. After risking their lives to enable Iraqis to enjoy new freedoms, the vets come back to the U.S. to see that their freedoms are being erased by leftwing radicals appointed by Obama. And the vets aren’t the only ones who won’t stand idly by and watch this happen.
The extremists running an out-of-control government are the real threat to America.
RandyChandler on April 20, 2009 at 10:03 AM
Hell, cons think it is okay to break the law to keep them safe.
Give the fake outrage a rest.
They are trying to keep you safe scared cons.
getalife on April 20, 2009 at 10:03 AM
If DHS thinks that combat vets are threatened by hate groups, why not warn veterans directly? Except they haven’t.
http://foreign-and-domestic.blog…alse- logic.html
Dave Thul | Homepage | 04.19.09 – 8:54 pm | #
(commenter at gatewaypundit)
Ooops! Homeland Security forgets to warn Veterans?! Fails to give them a heads-up before going public and smearing them??
TN Mom on April 20, 2009 at 10:03 AM
To Hawkdriver, and all serving in America’s armed forces:
God’s speed and safe return.
Loxodonta on April 20, 2009 at 10:05 AM
1st: write your Senator to call for Napolitano’s resignation.
2: getalife: i am very conservative. every generation of my family since the Revolution has been in the military. I care about the military. how many of your family members have served? other than this simple question, i will refrain from talking to you.
kelley in virginia on April 20, 2009 at 10:06 AM
I’ve been noticing this an awful lot lately. Whatever happened to that special room the trolls were supposed to get all to themselves?
logis on April 20, 2009 at 10:06 AM
Obama needs to stop this crap now.
Napolitano is beclowning herself at the same time
Obama is making a clown of himself with his new
pal Hugo.
Napolitano needs to be fired and Obama needs to quit
glad handing with left-wing terrorists.
DHS will have no cred left.
izoneguy on April 20, 2009 at 10:06 AM
A better outcome for the nation.
MrScribbler on April 20, 2009 at 10:07 AM
What is her action plan regarding gay Prop 8 supporters that are recruiting arsonists?
They are organized, they have published their threats and they are recruiting with an agenda.
seven on April 20, 2009 at 10:08 AM
The possible passage of new restrictions on firearms and the return of military veterans facing significant challenges reintegrating into their communities could lead to the potential emergence of terrorist groups or lone wolf extremists capable of carrying out violent attacks.
That’s pretty weak, conditional language for an official threat assessment.
Blacksheep on April 20, 2009 at 10:09 AM
You just know that DHS is monitoring posts/threads at Hot Air.
carbon_footprint on April 20, 2009 at 10:09 AM
Jeezus Ed…..why not stop making apologia for FOXnews and Info Wars and Stormfront?
Why not just say……STEP OFF, THATS NOT US?
Because it is you….Beck juxtaposes pictures of Stalin and Hitler and Obama while chanting “Obama the Messiah” to the tune of the Soviet national anthem.
That is why you can’t just say step off.
Charles says Beck and Rush are taking advert dollars to pimp Alex Jones’ movie.
What do you think of that?
strangelet on April 20, 2009 at 10:09 AM
No, the FBI.
getalife on April 20, 2009 at 10:10 AM
Charles Johnson?
Consider the source.
carbon_footprint on April 20, 2009 at 10:10 AM
These Y-Chromosome chicks really make me afraid. In times past they ended up as matrons at the gulag. Now, they end up as the head federal law enforcement. Didn’t the last one roast about 80 people alive in Waco?
Wine_N_Dine on April 20, 2009 at 10:11 AM
Not just people, many women and young children.
carbon_footprint on April 20, 2009 at 10:12 AM
These Obama minions are all about politics. People who oppose them are the enemy.
RobCon on April 20, 2009 at 10:13 AM
LGF is so hurting for readership that it has to send out annoying posting advertisments.
Cindy Munford on April 20, 2009 at 10:13 AM
Sorry, Ed, the first thing Napolitano should do is resign.
Loxodonta on April 20, 2009 at 10:13 AM
Wow. Total BS, but you’re ok with that. It’s worse than I thought.
zeebeach on April 20, 2009 at 10:14 AM
And kidnap a child…maybe AG are the ones that should be on the “watch list”…
right2bright on April 20, 2009 at 10:15 AM
Rahm just called me from the White House…..his take on Vets is that they know how to make bombs and use guns and probably voted for NitWit McCain, thus they are terrorists. Rahm, Sen. Reid, and AAAAAA-Cup Nancy P., have secretly tapped into the Porkulus fund and hired Bill Ayers (his Resume says “I know how to make bombs and I LOVE the Messiah, and I DO NOT pay my taxes!) whose resume looks perfect, to watch the returning Vets (also any Notre Dame Grads, or Georgetown Grads who have rosaries or prayer books). Hey, that should make America safe! Go Forward Comrades!
Cinday Blackburn on April 20, 2009 at 10:15 AM
From Michael Reagan’s comment on the subject:
“Have we really come to this? Has Adolf Hitler’s propaganda chief Joseph Gobbles been reborn and recruited by the Obama administration to scare the heck out of the American people with absurdities such as this whacked-out document?”
Yes, Michael. Napolitano has discovered an extremist (who some would call right wing) herself.
burt on April 20, 2009 at 10:15 AM
oh, i’m sure someone is monitoring us. we joked while at the Richmond tea party that someone in the govt was taking pictures of us.
kelley in virginia on April 20, 2009 at 10:16 AM
BS? Show meh please…..
Are you denying Beck juxtaposes pictures of Stalin and Hitler and Obama while chanting “Obama the Messiah” to the tune of the Soviet national anthem?
I have seen that with my own lying eyes.
Are you denying Charles said that?
I just linked the post.
This the interweb…….fisk me.
Give me linkage to disprove what I said.
strangelet on April 20, 2009 at 10:17 AM
For me it is just Deja Vu. With every passing day of the Barry O administration I feel more and more like I am back in the Jimmy Carter era. I swear to God though, if disco comes back that is the last straw.
Just A Grunt on April 20, 2009 at 10:17 AM
WTF are you talking about these were “Black Panthers” Trying to avert people NOT supporting Obamageddon!
xler8bmw on April 20, 2009 at 10:18 AM
Oh, and by the Ed, Napolitano in no way says or suggest vets are too stupid to avoid recruitment. The DHS memo merely states that hate groups are targeting them. Which, according to the DHS and the FBI they are!
But, as I’m sure you know being a Captain and all, the military contains all walks of life. And the fact that many hate groups have military vets as leadership suggests that some vets are susceptible to recruitment. Some even send member into the military to get training in weapons in warfare.
So, again, what’ the problem? And why you feel you must so egregiously twist Napolitano’s words?
Tom_Shipley on April 20, 2009 at 10:18 AM
Of course he did, if the panties fit…
Which is on the same credibility scale of linking to Huffington Post or Daily Kos.
carbon_footprint on April 20, 2009 at 10:19 AM
Those thugs are scary looking. Are they Acorns?
becki51758 on April 20, 2009 at 10:20 AM
During the campaign Barry O made a campaign stop in OR I believe it was and had a band for a opening number whose claim to fame is playing the Soviet Union National Anthem. We don’t have to make stuff up, just report it. The video of it is also out there somewhere.
Just A Grunt on April 20, 2009 at 10:20 AM
There are dangerous veterans out there.
Jeremiah Wright is a vet, and he helped poison Dear Leader’s mind against the US.
Charlie Rangel is a vet, and he helped protect Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac, leading to the financial meltdown.
rbj on April 20, 2009 at 10:20 AM
Separated at birth:
Janet Napolitano
Joseph Goebbels
The likenesses are startling in so many ways.
Sort of scary.
Loxodonta on April 20, 2009 at 10:21 AM
Boy that’s for sure. I was banned there for having the temerity to ask Charles if he needed a ladder to get down from his high horse. — I was honored to be banned from that ridiculous site.
Dasher on April 20, 2009 at 10:21 AM
My feeling is that if these Vets wanted to fight, blow up things etc they would stay in Afghanistan and Iraq. Every Vet I’ve ever spoken with since my Dad’s war, WWWI, is anxious to get home, be with family and live a productive life. Napolitano is NUTS.
Herb on April 20, 2009 at 10:21 AM
I think this is an argument for the rapid confirmation of every Obama nominee. He has yet to fill a single post with a person who’s come equipped with competence, let alone logic or reason. The more we hear from Obama/Biden/Geithner/Holder/Rice/Napolitano, the more the attention-paying public will see this administration for what it is: a micromanaged, idealogical cesspool of tyrannical sychophants.
The damage this administration will inflict will be catastrophic, and we have no hope of completely stopping it at this point. The best hope for conservatives, and America, is to limit the destructive, one party reign of the Failed One to 2 years. We can begin to hope for recovery only after some political balance has been restored. The more catastrophically and publically incompetent Obama and his cronies are, the more quickly the pendulum will swing back in our direction.
Wingo on April 20, 2009 at 10:22 AM
After WWII when most all men were returning Vets, did the press or govt. blame veterans for all crime and left/right wing activity?
albill on April 20, 2009 at 10:23 AM
Flipping thru the channels , I saw gop news showing gang activity in the military.
I wondered if the cons would be outraged.
Nah, only if a dem does it.
getalife on April 20, 2009 at 10:23 AM
Yes, they’re not returning soldiers Jiangxdad is referring them to be and DHS is correct! His posted was not correct!
xler8bmw on April 20, 2009 at 10:24 AM
DHS is wrong and Napolitano needs to be fired.
becki51758 on April 20, 2009 at 10:25 AM
In my 22 years of service nobody taught me how to make a bomb out of a U Haul truck, fertilizer and diesel fuel like McVeigh did.
That is where the whole vets are magically weapons and demolitions experts who perform heart bypass surgery with a knitting needle but are too stupid to get a degree or avoid extremist groups argument falls apart.
Just A Grunt on April 20, 2009 at 10:25 AM
Did you miss the hidden /sarc tag?
Dasher on April 20, 2009 at 10:27 AM
JiangxiDad was showing irony. Lay off. He’s on your side.
BTW, JiangziDad….good to see you around again.
genso on April 20, 2009 at 10:28 AM
I live in Arizona and can say Jon Kyl is the best unlike McCain who never once answered our inquiries.
Tom Tancredo should have headed DHS.
But the people riding Janet for her looks are just as foolish as the Obama crowd.
We are stuck with Obama and his administration and it is beyond unfortunate.
I just woke up after very little sleep–this is the best I can do but it beats knocking Janet’s looks.
Conservatives R Us on April 20, 2009 at 10:28 AM
Ms. Napolitano is just reflecting the feelings of her boss, the Commander In Chief (In Training). The far left hate the military, they don’t understand the military, and have a deep-seated fear of those who serve.
What I worry about is how is this woman going to protect us from our real enemies?
Uniblogger on April 20, 2009 at 10:29 AM
? Once again, the National Socialist German Workers’ Party. Left not right.
Johan Klaus on April 20, 2009 at 10:30 AM
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