Napolitano: Returning vets too stupid to avoid extremists

posted at 9:26 am on April 20, 2009 by Ed Morrissey

Janet Napolitano continues to thrash around for any rationalization she can find for the DHS report that painted political organizing on abortion, federalism, and immigration as potential national-security threats and called returining military vets a danger to the country they served.  Yesterday on CNN, Napolitano tried explaining that the DHS doesn’t see these vets as threatsThe DHS sees them as saps who don’t know any better than to fall into extremist traps:

Homeland Security Secretary Janet Napolitano on Sunday portrayed veterans as victims – not perpetrators – of right-wing extremism as she sought to combat the political controversy arising out of an April 14 Homeland Security memo warning that returning soldiers could be ripe for domestic terrorism participation.

“The report is not saying that veterans are extremists.  Far from it,” Napolitano said on CNN’s State of the Union. “What it is saying is returning veterans are targets of right-wing extremist groups that are trying to recruit those to commit violent acts within the country. We want to do all we can to prevent that.”

Yes, the poor dears are victims that obviously can’t decide themselves not to join violent groups … none of which the report bothers to name, by the way.  Unlike the report on left-wing extremism, which names several known groups with track records of violence, the DHS report that Napolitano continues to defend never bothers to name an actual threat.  Instead, it repeatedly states that DHS has no data on actual threats:

The DHS/Office of Intelligence and Analysis (I&A) has no specific information that domestic rightwing* terrorists are currently planning acts of violence, but rightwing extremists may be gaining new recruits by playing on their fears about several emergent issues.

And how does the DHS identify “domestic rightwing* terrorists”?

Rightwing extremism in the United States can be broadly divided into those groups, movements, and adherents that are primarily hate-oriented (based on hatred of particular religious, racial or ethnic groups), and those that are mainly antigovernment, rejecting federal authority in favor of state or local authority, or rejecting government authority entirely. It may include groups and individuals that are dedicated to a single issue, such as opposition to abortion or immigration.

So the Federalist Society has gone from being a group that follows the Constitutional tradition to being a potentially dangerous extremist group!  And what did the report actually say about veterans?  Page 2, the first mention of veterans in the report, makes veterans sound more like perps than victims:

The possible passage of new restrictions on firearms and the return of military veterans facing significant challenges reintegrating into their communities could lead to the potential emergence of terrorist groups or lone wolf extremists capable of carrying out violent attacks.

That doesn’t say that terrorist groups will exploit senseless veterans and trick them into becoming violent terrorists.  It presumes that veterans have a predisposition to become violent extremists because of the difficulties that they have “reintegrating into their communities.”  It’s the latest corollary to the every-Vietnam-vet-is-a-powderkeg belief.  It’s not until two pages later that the report mentions the issue of recruitment and radicalization.  And on page 8, we get this rather large section header:

(U) Disgruntled Military Veterans

Napolitano is not only condescending towards veterans in her latest rationalization, she’s being completely dishonest about the way the DHS assessment treats returning combat vets.  The report identifies them as a potential national-security threat to the country which they defended on the front lines.

DHS needs to stick to watching the groups themselves, and not people exercising their First Amendment rights and returning military veterans.  In fact, the first thing Napolitano should do is to actually get threat data, instead of making up a bunch of scare stories about political dissent while not bothering to identify actual known racist and white-supremacist groups with track records of violence who should be watched.


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I was asked to join a militia group on the way back from Myrtle Beach this weekend. I was too stupid to say no. It’s like I was hypnotized. I wish we were smarterer.

Halp!

hawkdriver on April 20, 2009 at 12:56 PM

just for laughs take it easy :)

tengger on April 20, 2009 at 12:56 PM

She needs to be FIRED.

dogsoldier on April 20, 2009 at 12:41 PM

WTF. She’ll be praised.

FlyoverJ-HawkFan on April 20, 2009 at 12:57 PM

You can tell how scared the Chump in Chief is by the amount of trolls around here lately.

Tea parties, Palin, and pointing out how poorly Amateur Hour at the Apollo is going REALLY gets Axelrod upset.

SWEET!!

omnipotent on April 20, 2009 at 12:58 PM

So the Federalist Society has gone from being a group that follows the Constitutional tradition to being a potentially dangerous extremist group!

You are misreading the footnote. Let me demonstrate another way the footnote could have been written:

Rightwing extremism in the United States can be broadly divided into those groups, movements, and adherents whose names begin with the letters A through M and those whose names begin with the letters N through Z.

You agree with that, right? A group called Federalism Through Firebombs would be in the first group and Neo-Nazi Nutjobs from Nantucket would be in the second.

What about the Federalist Society? Well, yes, their name begins with F just like Federalism Through Firebombs, but since they’re not a rightwing extremist group, they’re not being described by the footnote. Neither is Four-H or Finnegan’s Wake Literature Society or the Flying Wallendas, even though their names also start with F.

The first words in the footnote are “Rightwing Extremism”. The rest of the footnote is explaining a useful way to divide up that group. The footnote is not designed to define rightwing extremism, but to break it down into two subcategories.

Honestly, what you guys should spend your time and energy on is seeing if this DHS report was fasttracked for any reason, such as to get out ahead of the tea parties. And if it was trying to get out prior to the tea parties, was it for legit security purposes or political mud?

orange on April 20, 2009 at 1:01 PM

was it for legit security purposes or political mud?

I go for the mud.

FlyoverJ-HawkFan on April 20, 2009 at 1:03 PM

Napolitano must go ASAP. The longer it takes to get rid of her, the more her profoundly unAmerican policies will taint the entire Obama administration.

petefrt on April 20, 2009 at 1:05 PM

but did we forget our history.? WWII japanese interment camps.
Oh thats right they did not happen either:) our govt would never do such a thing.

tengger on April 20, 2009 at 1:06 PM

unAmerican policies will taint the entire Obama administration.

petefrt on April 20, 2009 at 1:05 PM

That’s the funniest thing I’ve read all morning. As if everything this administration does is not unAmerican without Napolitano.

genso on April 20, 2009 at 1:07 PM

Halp!

hawkdriver on April 20, 2009 at 12:56 PM

Quick contact John Kerry. I’m sure he can help you. He served in Vietnam…/sarc

Oldnuke on April 20, 2009 at 1:08 PM

but did we forget our history.? WWII japanese interment camps.
Oh thats right they did not happen either:) our govt would never do such a thing.

tengger on April 20, 2009 at 1:06 PM

The connection shot right past me. Unless you’re saying Conservatives will be interred because they consider us potential enemies?

hawkdriver on April 20, 2009 at 1:10 PM

They need to call out Federalism Through Firebombs and Neo-Nazi Nutjobs from Nantucket specifically, then.

TexAz on April 20, 2009 at 1:12 PM

Oldnuke on April 20, 2009 at 1:08 PM

Note to selve. Kall Jon Kary,;.

hawkdriver on April 20, 2009 at 1:13 PM

Bingo or anyone who opposes the government. Yes it is in fun and out there but i bet the japanese didnt see it coming either. do i think it will realy happen lets hope and Mostly Pray not.

tengger on April 20, 2009 at 1:15 PM

rejecting federal authority in favor of state or local authority

Now how does that relate to this?

The powers not delegated to the United States by the Constitution, nor prohibited by it to the states, are reserved to the states respectively, or to the people.

I guess the Constitution is now considered to be a subversive document.

Oldnuke on April 20, 2009 at 1:15 PM

Dasher, noticed that after I posted. But at the bottom of the page you can click on the month you wish to see. Heard tell, no link, that Mitch McConnell was instrumental in allowing the voice vote instead of the normal attach one’s name to the vote.

Tom

marinetbryant on April 20, 2009 at 12:24 PM

It is concerning to me to note that by confirming that group of nominees (including Napolitano) by unanimous consent, puts the importance in the same category as SRes27 – Congratulating the Pittsburgh Steelers for winning the Super Bowl. http://thomas.loc.gov/cgi-bin/query/z?c111:S.RES.27:

Once again no accountability, by any of them. R or D.

Dasher on April 20, 2009 at 1:18 PM

The DHS sees them as saps who don’t know any better than to fall into extremist traps

Well wait just a moment now before condemning Madame Napoleon some more. Let us all reason together and try to analyze all this from a scientific point of view. She may have something of a point anyway. Some of them did vote for Herr Obama after all and maybe that is what she is thinking about in the back of her mind. She has had to suppress these feelings of course, as she dare not let them out directly, and this may just be her subconsciousness mind’s way of getting them out to anyone perceptive enough to listen.

Sigmund on April 20, 2009 at 1:18 PM

BS.

cons don’t care about the troops.

They want our Commander In Chief to fail in a time of war.

getalife on April 20, 2009 at 9:51 AM

BWAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!! Oh man get-a-clue, you never fail to make me laugh, thank you! That’s rich coming from a lefty like you especially considering how the left tried so hard to get the Bush administration to cut and run from Iraq, protesting the war at every opportunity and espousing your vile “Bush is a war criminial” or “no war for oil” memes!

You do remember Reid’s “the war is lost” comment regarding Iraq, right? You do remember how for all of Bush’s last term the left were screaming for us to withdraw from Iraq and fought Bush every step of the way including trying to thwart approving more funds for the war and scum like Murtha calling our troops cold blooded murderers, Obama stating that our troops were air raiding villages, the left’s constant protesting of the war espousing their constant “no war for oil” tripe, etc, etc!

But now that your guy is CIC the war is a-ok yet you have the nerve to say we want our CIC to fail while we are at war when the truth is it is Obambi and the left that deplore our military men and women as is evident by the recent DHS report and the military budget cuts he’s planning!

We on the right want nothing but support for our brave and selfless military men and women, it’s the least we can do for them considering they are placing themselves in harms way to protect our freedoms. However we refuse to support a CIC that is indebted to the left to the point where he’s making policy decisions that are hampering our military’s efforts while at war, that is the difference but you obviously don’t care to see it that way because you are so biased toward your messiah, your childish ideology, and you (as usual) are projecting your guilt on to us!

Liberty or Death on April 20, 2009 at 1:18 PM

Any of you lib trolls care to poll the military on who they think best supported a Commander in Chief in time of war?

After the last eight years to say, type or even kid that you progs are not in a great way responsible for the difficulties with both theaters make you something even worse than hypocrites.

The trolls that post that crap have blood on their hands as much as any armed adversary.

hawkdriver on April 20, 2009 at 1:24 PM

It’s the latest corollary to the every-Vietnam-vet-is-a-powderkeg belief.

Personally, I never even served with anyone half as loosely wrapped as Michael Moore, Keith Olbermann, Bill Ayres, Jeromy Wright or Ted Nuggent, all non veterans, I believe.

MB4 on April 20, 2009 at 1:29 PM

MB4 on April 20, 2009 at 1:29 PM

Didn’t Bill Ayers have a demolitions MOS?

hawkdriver on April 20, 2009 at 1:31 PM

not Glenn Beck for simply seeing what is in front of his face and calling it like it is.

alteredbeat on April 20, 2009 at 12:41 PM

Then don’t get pissy about teh deliverance extras holding up Obama==Hitler signs on camera on camera at your teabag rallies. They are in YOUR party along with Alex Jones, the Info Warriors and Stormfront skinheads.
You are the party of their dreams with Perry spewing secession speak.
THE SOUTH WILL RISE AGAIN!!!!
lmfao

strangelet on April 20, 2009 at 1:38 PM

Didn’t Bill Ayers have a demolitions MOS?

hawkdriver on April 20, 2009 at 1:31 PM

I dunno, could be he had one from Fidel’s army or suppin’.

MB4 on April 20, 2009 at 1:40 PM

I’m surprised at how fearful the left is of these tea parties. All the more reason to keep them going and make them larger.

jeanie on April 20, 2009 at 1:40 PM

If B. Hussien Obama really gave a rats ass about the veterans he would sack the worthless POS immediately. But he doesn’t and never will. He cares more about hanging out and yucking it up with the worlds worst dictators and socialists.

TrickyDick on April 20, 2009 at 1:44 PM

strangelet on April 20, 2009 at 1:38 PM

Strange Brew, why did you denigrate the South like that? Just to show your ignorance, I guess. It wasn’t just the South at the Tea Parties. They were all over the country. And by the way, 75 % of those polled in Texas said that they love America. You Trolls are pathetic in the defense of this milksop, inexperienced POTUS and his inept administration.

The strength of America is in her people.

President Ronald Reagan

kingsjester on April 20, 2009 at 1:45 PM

Obama==Hitler signs

teabag rallies

Stormfront skinheads

strangelet on April 20, 2009 at 1:38 PM

Now why would Stormfront skinheads be at a teabag rally holding up Obama=Hitler signs?

Unless they were trying to disrupt the teabag rallies with their expressions of maximum admiration for Obama?

Try to use more coordinating thinking for a change.

MB4 on April 20, 2009 at 1:46 PM

There’s a special place in Hell for Napolitano, and I sort of feel sorry for the demons assigned to her there.

bluelightbrigade on April 20, 2009 at 1:48 PM

It never fails to amaze me how bigoted the liberal trolls are.

hawkdriver on April 20, 2009 at 1:48 PM

It never fails to amaze me how bigoted the liberal trolls are.

hawkdriver on April 20, 2009 at 1:48 PM

It never fails to amaze me that they don’t realize they are having the exact opposite effect by their trolling than they think they are. Talk about congealing a movement.

genso on April 20, 2009 at 1:50 PM

It never fails to amaze me that they don’t realize they are having the exact opposite effect by their trolling than they think they are. Talk about congealing a movement.

genso on April 20, 2009 at 1:50 PM

Hence the theorizing on the part of some that they, at least many of them, are actually a form of doppelganger.

Sigmund on April 20, 2009 at 1:55 PM

I’m curious: any veterans ever find their way into “left-wing extremist” groups?

cackcon on April 20, 2009 at 11:53

This has been said better, by others; John Kerry surely did.

massrighty on April 20, 2009 at 1:56 PM

Hundreds of police for any leftwing demonstration in my city. For the Tea Party there were 4. I talked to one of them bout the slight presence and he said the department considered these demos no threat and he was there for traffic control only.

Yes, we are dangerous.

jukin on April 20, 2009 at 1:56 PM

MB4 on April 20,2009 at 1:46 PM

Suggest you disengage with this one, sir.

NISHI is not worth the effort–just ask anyone at Protein Wisdom.

irongrampa on April 20, 2009 at 1:57 PM

Hence the theorizing on the part of some that they, at least many of them, are actually a form of doppelganger.

Sigmund on April 20, 2009 at 1:55 PM

That works too.

hawkdriver on April 20, 2009 at 1:58 PM

Any mention of the recruiting station in Times Square that was bombed last year? Hmmm I thought not.

Wine_N_Dine on April 20, 2009 at 2:03 PM

Rick Perry better watch his behind; by their definition, he is a right wing terrorist threatening to overthrow the government in favor of his state’s 10th Amendment rights. Oh, and should Thomas Jefferson return from the grave, he’ll be put on their watch list as well.

College Prof on April 20, 2009 at 2:05 PM

That works too.

hawkdriver on April 20, 2009 at 1:58 PM

I don’t know. I’m thinking more like mindless zombies. It’s hard for me to believe that they have living, alter-egos.

genso on April 20, 2009 at 2:06 PM

Suggest you disengage with this one, sir.

NISHI is not worth the effort–just ask anyone at Protein Wisdom.

irongrampa on April 20, 2009 at 1:57 PM

Well what strangelet said all seems rather uncommon strange to me. Hitler is like the greatest hero of stormfront skinheads, isn’t he? So if they hold up signs saying Obama=Hitler, well to them that is about the equivalent of the Pope nominating someone for Sainthood. Now most folks at these teabag rallies don’t admire Obama all that much so any reasonable person can only concluded that if there were any of these stormfront skinheads holding up Obama=Hitler signs at teabag rallies then they must have been trying to disrupt them with demonstrations of their maximum support and admiration for Obama and his policies. Elementary.

MB4 on April 20, 2009 at 2:15 PM

In fact, the first thing Napolitano should do is

RESIGN

jdkchem on April 20, 2009 at 2:15 PM

kingsjester on April 20, 2009 at 1:45 PM

Strange Brew – Excellent Movie Why associate it with a moron who is incapable of figuring out the irony of neo-nazis holding up OBAMA=HITLER signs.

jdkchem on April 20, 2009 at 2:19 PM

MB4 on April 20, 2009 at 2:15 PM

Now that right there is funny. Cogent, but funny.

Btw, are/were you Airborne, or didI misread the s/n?

irongrampa on April 20, 2009 at 2:19 PM

Btw, are/were you Airborne, or didI misread the s/n?

irongrampa on April 20, 2009 at 2:19 PM

Field Artillery in a previous life.

MB4 on April 20, 2009 at 2:21 PM

Now why would Stormfront skinheads be at a teabag rally holding up

Obama=Hitler signs?

Unless they were trying to disrupt the teabag rallies with their expressions of maximum admiration for Obama?

Try to use more coordinating thinking for a change.

MB4 on April 20, 2009 at 1:46 PM

lol, those weren’t stormfronters with the signs…..they were Beckers, deliverance extras, juggalos…..w/e…..the one thing they weren’t…..was bipartisan!!!!!!!!!
hahahaha
Yup, those teabaggers were mondo scarey…..mondo hilarious is more like it.
;)

strangelet on April 20, 2009 at 2:22 PM

orange on April 20, 2009 at 1:01 PM

After accusing someone of misreading the footnote you misread the footnote. Brilliant.

jdkchem on April 20, 2009 at 2:23 PM

Yup, those teabaggers were mondo scarey…..mondo hilarious is more like it.
;)

strangelet on April 20, 2009 at 2:22 PM

You should have gone out there and laughed at them in person.

genso on April 20, 2009 at 2:26 PM

After accusing someone of misreading the footnote you misread the footnote. Brilliant.

jdkchem on April 20, 2009 at 2:23 PM

Explain how.

orange on April 20, 2009 at 2:27 PM

Yesssss….how to frame the message? “wake up” americans without actually revealling the GOP as the party of batshit crazy sociopaths like Alex Jones and David Duke?
hahahaha

strangelet on April 20, 2009 at 2:27 PM

Didn’t Bill Ayers have a demolitions MOS?

hawkdriver on April 20, 2009 at 1:31 PM

No, he was too big a pussy for the Army. I was in EOD for the Air Force though, will that help? Also, bomb tech/bomb squad for my P.D. in the nineties.

FlyoverJ-HawkFan on April 20, 2009 at 2:28 PM

Tenn and Hawk, the WWII interment camps weren’t the first time groups of people were rounded up and put in camps in this country. I’m no tinfoil hat kinda guy, just sayin’ is all.

Bimbo Janet needs to go after issuing a real apology.

dogsoldier on April 20, 2009 at 2:28 PM

strangelet on April 20, 2009 at 2:22 PM

Those deliverance extras you continue to refer to were all SAG members.

jdkchem on April 20, 2009 at 2:29 PM

Why would someone resign a governorship to be head of DHS?

bbhack on April 20, 2009 at 2:29 PM

Didn’t Bill Ayers have a demolitions MOS?

hawkdriver on April 20, 2009 at 1:31 PM

No, too big a wimp for the Army. But I was an EOD tech in the Air Force if that will help. Also, bomb tech for my PD back in the nineties.

FlyoverJ-HawkFan on April 20, 2009 at 2:30 PM

Yup, those teabaggers were mondo scarey…..mondo hilarious is more like it.
;)

strangelet on April 20, 2009 at 2:22 PM

Well now, if you really mondo believe that, then I mondo think you are mondo protesting way mondo too much then.

Actually, I mondo think that you are all too mondo transparent.

MB4 on April 20, 2009 at 2:32 PM

Yup, those teabaggers were mondo scarey…..mondo hilarious is more like it.
;)

strangelet on April 20, 2009 at 2:22 PM

Exactly what is a mondo? Is that like toothless banjo pickers from rural Georgia who have an affinity for sodomizing cityfolk from out of state who make the mistake of poaching in their territory?

FlyoverJ-HawkFan on April 20, 2009 at 2:36 PM

Strangelet is a mondo! Nyah nyah nyah nyah.

FlyoverJ-HawkFan on April 20, 2009 at 2:37 PM

Strangelet is a mondo! Nyah nyah nyah nyah.

FlyoverJ-HawkFan on April 20, 2009 at 2:37 PM

Stangelet is just a poco with delusions of mondoness. He may one day be able to become an alegro poco but that’s about it.

MB4 on April 20, 2009 at 2:43 PM

orange on April 20, 2009 at 2:27 PM

Rightwing extremism in the United States can be broadly divided into those groups, movements, and adherents that are primarily hate-oriented (based on hatred of particular religious, racial or ethnic groups), and those that are mainly antigovernment, rejecting federal authority in favor of state or local authority, or rejecting government authority entirely. It may include groups and individuals that are dedicated to a single issue, such as opposition to abortion or immigration.

They are defining rightwing extremism broadly and they admit to it in the very first sentence. By their definition the Federalist Society can be considered an extremist group. Nowhere in their definition do they name any existing groups or that those groups have ever engaged in any violent activity. They are not defining the class by name as you are so quick to do.

jdkchem on April 20, 2009 at 2:43 PM

strangelet on April 20, 2009 at 2:27 PM

Alex Jones a Republican? I sure he’ll be thrilled to hear that.

jdkchem on April 20, 2009 at 2:47 PM

MB4 on April 20, 2009 at 2:43 PM

Ed must know I’m drunk cause he won’t let me respond to your quote.

FlyoverJ-HawkFan on April 20, 2009 at 2:49 PM

They are defining rightwing extremism broadly and they admit to it in the very first sentence. By their definition the Federalist Society can be considered an extremist group. Nowhere in their definition do they name any existing groups or that those groups have ever engaged in any violent activity. They are not defining the class by name as you are so quick to do.

jdkchem on April 20, 2009 at 2:43 PM

The footnote never purports to define rightwing extremism. It seems some people see the word “divided” and interpret that as “defined”.

The FDA might say “Sources of salmonella poisoning can be broadly divided into foods that contain salmonella and beverages that contain salmonella”. Would you read that to assume that all foods and beverages contain salmonella?

orange on April 20, 2009 at 3:33 PM

I don’t want her to go away. She’s “She-Biden”.

Give that woman a weekly radio address, endorsed by the Democrat congress.

She should sign off her show with “remember, people, I’m a part of the Obama administration! We won! Don’t forget to register and vote!”

Black Adam on April 20, 2009 at 3:46 PM

It never fails to amaze me that they don’t realize they are having the exact opposite effect by their trolling than they think they are. Talk about congealing a movement.
genso on April 20, 2009 at 1:50 PM

Hence the theorizing on the part of some that they, at least many of them, are actually a form of doppelganger.
Sigmund on April 20

That’s why I have a bumper sticker that says, “ I break for Hallucinations!

DSchoen on April 20, 2009 at 3:57 PM

Dogsoldier just firing for effect to rattle lib trolls. figure that they would have atleast heard about internment camps from WWII. Not the rest. Like all the German POWs we had here in the states. Plus libs dont seem to get sarcasm.

tengger on April 20, 2009 at 4:01 PM

but rightwing extremists may be gaining new recruits

extremists may be?
Doesn’t hat also mean may be not?

“What it is saying is returning veterans are targets of right-wing extremist groups that are trying to recruit those to commit violent acts within the country.

veterans are targets of right-wing extremist groups

Are targets? This is a hard, fixed, no wiggle room, claim.
She MUST have examples to back that up.

Are targets” is not “potential” targets or “may be” targets.

DSchoen on April 20, 2009 at 4:06 PM

or lone wolf extremists capable of carrying out violent attacks.

Lone wolf extremists? Uhm, who recruits LONE Wolf’s?

Is there a Lone wolf group?

Do they know each other or would that violate the Lone wolf creed?

Are there any Leftwing Lone wolf extremists or would that require too much individualism?

DSchoen on April 20, 2009 at 4:08 PM

irongrampa, many thanks to you and your brothers-in-arms. I was but a little squirt when the war was going on, but I did know from a young age that Hanoi Jane movies were permanently banned from our household. Didn’t understand why until I got older and learned the history. All I’ll say is, vets of all sorts were properly treated here in Texas.

bikermailman on April 20, 2009 at 4:26 PM

In fact, the first thing Napolitano should do is to actually get threat data, instead of making up a bunch of scare stories about political dissent while not bothering to identify actual known racist and white-supremacist groups with track records of violence who should be watched.

No, the first thing she should do is resign. And failing that, the President should fire her.

She has not only personally generally insulted all of us who have ever served in the military during time of hostilities, but she is now obviously lying about what she meant.

Veterans everywhere should demand that she go.

We cannot afford to have someone in that key position who has no idea what she is talking about.

Just two years ago the favored liberal line was, “We support the troops, just not the war.”

Now, it seems to be: “We don’t trust the Vets, and we are willing to officially make unsubstantiated and sweeping generalizations about them, including placing them in the same category as those who the majority of the American people believe are the most odious and vile characters alive in the world today.”

Trochilus on April 20, 2009 at 4:31 PM

Who else is not finding anything redeeming in the public persona of this woman? Is the governorship of AZ such a chump prize that no one worthwhile wanted it?

bbhack on April 20, 2009 at 4:32 PM

Who else is not finding anything redeeming in the public persona of this woman? Is the governorship of AZ such a chump prize that no one worthwhile wanted it?

bbhack on April 20, 2009 at 4:32 PM

We have a whole political class that’s a “chump prize” for the winners. And we are the chumps.

genso on April 20, 2009 at 4:37 PM

cons don’t care about the troops.

getalife on April 20, 2009 at 9:51 AM

No, you don’t care about the troops. You proved it when you voted for Jeanne-Claude Kerri in 2004.

Del Dolemonte on April 20, 2009 at 4:40 PM

I’m curious: any veterans ever find their way into “left-wing extremist” groups?

cackcon on April 20, 2009 at 11:53 AM

General Wesley Clark blogs at some of the Left wing hate sites, yes.

Del Dolemonte on April 20, 2009 at 4:44 PM

cons don’t care about the troops.

getalife on April 20, 2009 at 9:51 AM

Yo, back at work already?

Don’t you feel exploited by the Democrats knowing that even kids in the US make $10/hr working in fast food restaurants while you’re working around the clock in a boiler room in Mumbai making $50 a month?

TheBigOldDog on April 20, 2009 at 5:18 PM

Disgruntled Military Veterans
“Napolitano is not only condescending towards veterans”
‘The report identifies them as a potential national-security threat to the country which they defended on the front lines”.

Actually she’s much dumber than that.
This MORON sent this “profile report” to police departments in the USA.

Considering that military vets wartime/peacetime make up less than 1% of the USA population (aprox 24 million living today), apparently she is completely unaware that police departments have a much higher than average number of veterans among their ranks.

New police officers all military veterans
Five sworn in to Sayreville P.D. have served U.S. overseas
BY MICHAEL ACKER Staff Writer
Chicago Police Department’s unique thank you to its servicemembers [7/12/2005]

2 academies training more military vets as police
Jolly, 24, said he enjoyed his military police assignment during his 4 1/2 years in the U.S. Air Force, including a tour in Iraq.

His next job, he decided, would be civilian police work. He wanted his 2-year-old son to be able to tell his friends, “My dad’s a cop,” Jolly said.
He is one of many Iraq and Afghanistan veterans seeking civilian police jobs. Military veterans now make up about 20 to 30 percent of the police recruits enrolled at the training center at 10001 S. Wilmot Road, which opened in 1998.

Beach deal opens police jobs to Army vets
By Kathy Adams
The Virginian-Pilot
© March 7, 2009
VIRGINIA BEACH
Army reservists and veterans looking for work will have an in with the Police Department

DSchoen on April 20, 2009 at 5:39 PM

“The footnote never purports to define rightwing extremism. It seems some people see the word “divided” and interpret that as “defined”.”

Really?

So is this an example of rightwing extremism?
Allegedly it involves Vets?

Standoff with Police as Iraq Vets Demand to Meet with Obama Campaign
By Alex Kane and Jessica Lee, Indypendent. Posted August 28, 2008

With no reply from Obama to their letter asking him to endorse their goals, IVAW marched to the Pepsi Center to demand that their voices be heard

DENVER — A little more than an hour before Sen. Barack Obama made a surprise appearance at Pepsi Center to conclude the evening at the Democratic National Convention, his campaign had an exchange with Iraq Veterans Against the War (IVAW).
Approximately 100 IVAW members were determined to push Obama on his stance on troop withdrawal. Leading a grueling three-hour-plus long march of an estimated 7,000 demonstrators towards the Pepsi Center late in the afternoon, IVAW hoped to deliver a folded flag and a letter calling on Obama to endorse the three main goals of unity: immediate withdrawal of American troops, full veterans benefits, and reparations for the Iraqi people.

Who knew! IVAW is a rightwing group!

DSchoen on April 20, 2009 at 5:49 PM

According to your report I am a right wing extremist and a potential terrorist. You can track me through my computer, Janet, come and get me!

Grafted on April 20, 2009 at 5:57 PM

since i’m a vet please vets let me take the trash out .you lady are nothing but garbage the brave vets that come back and those that don’t make it back are hero’s.i know a whole lot of AMERICANS WHO LOVE THESE WONDERFUL BRAVE PEOPLE AND TO HAVE A COMMIE LIKE YOU PUCK YOUR GARBAGE OUT AT THEM YOU SHOULD BE ASHAMED OF YOUR SELF BUT LIKE ALL LIBERALS YOU THINK YOUR A GOD WELL YOU LADY ARE NOTHING. WE OWE EVERY DAY OF FREEDOM TO THESE VETS .AND TO THE VETS WE PROMISE TO GET OUT THE VOTE TO TAKE THIS VERMON OUT OF POWER.

wade underhile on April 20, 2009 at 6:05 PM

What some are missing is that this report cites one of its few sources an FBI report released last year about White supremacist extremists targeting service members. Of course that report included actual numbers – out of a population of almost 24 million veterans, 203 with “claimed or confirmed” were member of white sumpremacist extremist groups. The number of Iraq and Afghanistan veterans? 19. That report also pointed out that these groups were unable to stop their decline in membership even with these drives.

The whole “vets are teh right-wing extremists!!!!1!” is just plain stupid.

Oddly, while the report felt it neccesary to cite Timothy McVeigh, it left out Lee Harvey Oswald. I find that suspect.

flashoverride on April 20, 2009 at 6:22 PM

Yes, the poor dears are victims that obviously can’t decide themselves not to join violent groups … none of which the report bothers to name, by the way.

It’s all bad. But not surprising. Dems have a long history of treating the military as a bunch of idiots. We don’t even need to look back that far to recall John Kerry saying that if you don’t work hard in school you’ll get “stuck in Iraq”.

RightWinged on April 20, 2009 at 6:35 PM

Seriously, where in the report does it DEFINE rightwing terrorism?

Answer: It doesnt.

orange on April 20, 2009 at 7:02 PM

Perhaps orange can explain what would be the point of “dividing” somthing into groups without providing some sort of “definition” for those groups?

Hint – there isn’t one, as without “definition” the groups wouldn’t be divisible.

Using its own posts:

The FDA might say “Sources of salmonella poisoning can be broadly divided into foods that contain salmonella and beverages that contain salmonella”.

According to orange, the FDA has created divisions or groups, without in any way, shape or form “defining” those groups, right? Well, no, not exactly. You see, even in orange’s example the FDA has indeed “defined” its two groups as being, one that is made up of “Beverages” and, one that is made up of “Foods”.

P.S. You cannot divide something into groups, no matter how “broadly” without defining the groups, otherwise they would be indistinguishable and, therefore, without purpose.

Sheesh

Finally, in case orange STILL doesn’t get it, the report “devides” rightwing extremism in the United States into groups DEFINED as: 1. those groups, movements, and adherents that are primarily hate-oriented (Which is then even further DEFINED as) – based on hatred of partiuclar religious, racial or ethnic groups. AND; 2. those that are mainly antigovernment, rejecting federal authority in favor of state or local authority, or rejecting government authority entirely.

Thus, the report has “divided” right-wing extremism into two DEFINED groups. Knock, knock – it this getting through?

Fatal on April 20, 2009 at 7:52 PM

Rightwing extremism in the United States can be broadly divided into those groups, movements, and adherents that are primarily hate-oriented (based on hatred of particular religious, racial or ethnic groups)

Wow… I never realized before that the anti-Prop 8 people in California are just Right-Wing Extremists, due to their hatred of Mormons.

malclave on April 20, 2009 at 7:56 PM

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