Axelrod: The tea-party movement could be “unhealthy”
posted at 2:44 pm on April 19, 2009 by Allahpundit
No surprise that the master of astroturfing would find a true grassroots movement distasteful. To be scrupulously fair, it’s not the parties themselves that he’s calling “unhealthy” but rather the potential of populist anger in an age of economic panic to boil over into more extreme forms. Even so, his intent is clear — to delegitimize the parties by framing them as a shot across the bow from some sort of inchoate militia. The same could have been said years ago, of course, about anti-war protests amid a climate of grotesque hatred on the left for George Bush. Imagine the screeching from the world’s Garofalos had Karl Rove sensed something “unhealthy” about those on a Sunday morning chat show.
Naturally, this is all punctuated with the moronic talking point about tax cuts this year for 95 percent of America without mentioning the inevitable tax hikes to come to pay off Obama’s leviathan deficits. After you watch, head over to CNN to see Carville pronounce the parties not only “harmless” but actually beneficial to Democrats because the only people who showed up were 72 years old or something.
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Okay, so: WTO and G8 and “Manufactured Black Outrage Protest Lead By Jesse/Al/Freak of the Week #2,235,420″ and “peace” protests that peddle antisemetic literature, and “Pro-Immigration” (Mexican Nationalist) rallies, by Axelturd’s estimation: Healthy, despite the disturbing ammount of violence and threats there of that are a staple of suce.
Tea Partys, where people peacefully assemble to protest their government’s insane ecconomic policies, without any violence or the distribution of a single copy of “The Protocols of The Elders of Zion” (Available at most G8/WTO/”peace” demos): Unhealthy.
Of course, you understand that Axelrod’s not calling them unhealthy because of anything that’s happened yet. Nothing’s happened at a tea party so far that comes within a mile of the chaos that constitutes a lefty demo. He’s calling it unhealthy NOW so that when he insinuates his network of Axelturfers into the next round of Tea Parties for the express purpose of starting stuff (rioting, “civil disobedience” etc…) he can then say: “See, I told you so!”
The White House Mob can’t shut us down from without, so their only course of action will be to insinuate their own into our demonstartions to try and disrupt or carry out violent actions to discredit our movement and justify whatever measures 0bama, Holder, and Napolitano take against Americans who dissent against the moves of the 0bamastag.
These guys play straight from the Nazi playbook…
SuperCool on April 19, 2009 at 5:14 PM
I couldn’t agree more with Axelgrease. Nothing could possibly be unhealthier for the Left than free speech.
rrpjr on April 19, 2009 at 5:14 PM
I don’t know of any democrats here, I am a Moderate Republican – and proud of it.
AprilOrit on April 19, 2009 at 5:16 PM
I don’t like to use this word, but this deceitful goon deserves it.
He is truly a first class d***he.
maryo on April 19, 2009 at 5:18 PM
Proud of being a Moderate or proud of being a Republican? And what do either of those mean to you?
progressoverpeace on April 19, 2009 at 5:18 PM
Riiiiiight! And I’m married to Donald Trump.
Knucklehead on April 19, 2009 at 5:19 PM
I will accept that. But are you a conservative? E.g. in any way to the right of what might have been considered dead center in, say, 1910, or 1960?
TubbyHubby on April 19, 2009 at 5:20 PM
A community organizer and a PR spinmeister are running the country. I’m not sure which one calls most of the shots.
petefrt on April 19, 2009 at 5:21 PM
Proud of being both – a believer of small governemtn in a Moderate Country. And proud NOT TO BE a Far Right Loon who feels this country is too liberal.
AprilOrit on April 19, 2009 at 5:22 PM
Well, it was always unhealthy for plantation owners whenever the slaves rebelled.
TexasJew on April 19, 2009 at 5:22 PM
…too liberal socially, actually. You know what I mean – the Far Right religious loons who aspire to be more like the loons we are battling overseas.
AprilOrit on April 19, 2009 at 5:23 PM
the Far Right religious loons who aspire to be more like the loons we are battling overseas.
AprilOrit on April 19, 2009 at 5:23 PM
What a bigoted statement.
church on April 19, 2009 at 5:24 PM
Moderate Republican: One who sticks his or her finger in the rectum of a Democrat to see which way the wind blows.
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GT on April 19, 2009 at 5:24 PM
Not socially. I am appalled by social Conservatives – I find them a small step above and beyond rabid Muslims.
AprilOrit on April 19, 2009 at 5:25 PM
Everything you say is true. And it worries me as well. All I can suggest is that conservatives here and in every venue need to share the best of ourselves.
Let the left be the party of mindless slogans, humorless paranoia, moral relativism, and intolerant hatred. We conservatives need to advocate for our beliefs without dehumanizing those who disagree with us; keep in mind our American ideals and gifts we wish to conserve, and then live them; and be tolerant of one another’s differences on one issue or another, work together, and keep our eyes on the prize.
Loxodonta on April 19, 2009 at 5:25 PM
It is only “unhealthy” for the election prospects of your marxist comrades come 2010 Mr. Paxilpod. Keep chumming the waters you fascist idiot, and insure the defeat of the marxists in 2010.
I support the Constitution including the 2nd and 10th amendments.
I am a Christian who is pro-life.
My family has been here since the founding of this great nation and have fought bravely in each of it wars from the Revolutionary War to Afghanistan and Iraq.
I believe you and others of you ilk seek to transform our Constitutional Republic into some perverse form of marxism through the subversion of our Constitution.
I will actively seek to return the United States to the Constitutional Republic it once was ,lawfully, through the electoral process, as it is my right.
Like Madison, Jefferson, Henry, and the rest of our founders, I believe in Liberty above all else.
If by your definition that makes me an ultra-uber-radical-far-rightwing-fringe-extremist conservative, then so be it. I am in better company than you, Comrade.
DeathB4Tyranny on April 19, 2009 at 5:25 PM
And just who are these “Far Right religious loons” and what have they said or done to deserve your “loon” moniker. Specifics please.
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GT on April 19, 2009 at 5:26 PM
There were a million of us spread out. Now we need a march on Washington to seal the deal. A million in the pavilion for the next tea party.
Mojave Mark on April 19, 2009 at 5:26 PM
Tell us, did you like it? Get a rise out of it?
Leave your twisted sexual fantasies and desires out ot it please! That is disgusting.
AprilOrit on April 19, 2009 at 5:27 PM
So other than small government what else do you share that is republican ideology? Youve told us that you are not soccon tell us what you are in details.
canditaylor68 on April 19, 2009 at 5:27 PM
After your last comment, you are obviously not one of them and if you are, you make my arguement completely.
AprilOrit on April 19, 2009 at 5:28 PM
Obama Franks Waters LLC — destroyers of the world economy
unclesmrgol on April 19, 2009 at 5:28 PM
Appalled by social conservatives for what? Specifics please.
GT on April 19, 2009 at 5:29 PM
Social conservatives are a small step above and beyond rabid muslims? I suppose you have videos of Focus on the Family types beheading unbelievers or something like that? Do share.
Or, you know, try to communicate without the hyperbole.
bamaconservative on April 19, 2009 at 5:29 PM
Translation: I have no idea. I just like making stuff up.
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GT on April 19, 2009 at 5:30 PM
yes mam, killing them babies is fun.
Onager on April 19, 2009 at 5:30 PM
I’ve have been here for a longtime, the oldtimers here know my story. You are obviously newer, go back in the archives if you are so interested.
I am too tired to engage in the same discussion from a few years back.
I vote Republican, that’s all you need to care about.
AprilOrit on April 19, 2009 at 5:30 PM
too liberal socially, actually. You know what I mean – the Far Right religious loons who aspire to be more like the loons we are battling overseas
Tell me where you have run in to, personally known, or interacted with a “far right loon” who wants to deny girls the right to an education? Where are these loons that want to circumcise female children? Where are these loons that believe women should cover themselves from view in public? Where are these loons that believe a man has the religous right to beat his wife? Where is the loon that believes 47 year old men should marry and rape 8 year old girls. Where is the loon that believes if you take the lord’s name in vein you should be beheaded. Where is the loon who believes if you are not of their particular religious persuasion you should be killed? Where are these loons that strap bombs to their young and send them to kill the innocent of other faiths and values? You don’t know what you are talking about and to make a statement like that reveals your ignorance.
church on April 19, 2009 at 5:31 PM
Small Government. Socially Liberal.
Anyone get the irony?
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GT on April 19, 2009 at 5:32 PM
Partisan spin merchants like Axelrod and Carville can try and twist this storey anyway they like but it will make no difference because the cat is already out of the bag. The Tea Party movement is a true movement of the people in the sense that it came about not as a result of of the machinations of professional political organisers and agitators like so many protest movements of the left, but rather came about as a result ordinary everyday people wanting to voice their concerns about the direction that the political elite of both sides along the Government seem hell bent on taking the country in.
Dreadnought223 on April 19, 2009 at 5:33 PM
Axelrod and Carville ain’t got a fucking clue between them. Although they do realize one thing; THESE TEA PARTIES CAN ONLY GROW BIGGER!
GarandFan on April 19, 2009 at 5:36 PM
Any traditional conservative would know you can’t legislate morality – goes against the 1st Amendment. Legislative action should be reserved for curtailing concrete actions that fall within the very few instances where another individuals primary rights are threatened. Easiest example being murder. Easiest example of wrongfully applying a morality litmus test – hate crime murder. Given that last example, I feel I must disagree with you when I come to the conclusion this country has indeed become too liberal.
TubbyHubby on April 19, 2009 at 5:36 PM
Unhealthy? Yeah it is, unhealthy for you cheeseball!
conservnut on April 19, 2009 at 5:37 PM
Disgusting? True. Accurate? Absolutely.
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GT on April 19, 2009 at 5:38 PM
Being a New York Jew living in Manhattan – thankfully I don’t have to deal with any of it.
But I will say this – The GOP doesn’t need loons in this party who are concerned about uteruses and gay marriage – period.
The GOP is the party of small governemnt meaning social issues should never be legislated at all.
Join The Constitution Party, you will be much happier.
AprilOrit on April 19, 2009 at 5:38 PM
It is quite clear you are full of it
You are insane to even compare the conservative right or any of our religious members with Muslims. You cannot even explain yourself. I don’t think you even know the answers to the questions previously asked. I think that is quite clear.
Jamson64 on April 19, 2009 at 5:38 PM
Ya it doesnt work,ever. If you want social programs,thats big government…
On a lighter note all is not happy in libland-be sure to read the comments. And this little gem just for Axelrods and Pelosi’s info.
Like I said,ignore the peoples voice at your own peril Obama and Congress. The repubs did that and see where they are now? The same place they will continue to be if they havent learned their lessons.
canditaylor68 on April 19, 2009 at 5:38 PM
Exactly right.
GT on April 19, 2009 at 5:40 PM
The GOP is the party of small governemnt meaning social issues should never be legislated at all.
Join The Constitution Party, you will be much happier.
AprilOrit on April 19, 2009 at 5:38 PM
Okay, so you have not met or interacted with any of the “loons” you talk about. You proved my point.
church on April 19, 2009 at 5:40 PM
How dare Americans stand up for the weakest among us…how dare they!
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Jamson64 on April 19, 2009 at 5:40 PM
Deficit spending and reckless fiscal policy is much more unhealthy…to everyone.
therightwinger on April 19, 2009 at 5:41 PM
don’t bother with the ort…she is just plain whacked. she loves to simplify everything. she can barely explain her own thought process.
Jamson64 on April 19, 2009 at 5:42 PM
The sad thing is that many social conservatives arent really trying to convert those that dont want to be the same. We just fear the Atheists and Social manipulators who use government to undermine and belittle our beliefs.
Its that group that we need to fear. The ones who insidiously attack religeon as “Evil” and use every method to undermine it and “convert” those that do believe.
William Amos on April 19, 2009 at 5:45 PM
I live in Manhattan so thankfully I don’t have to other than the Mormons who try to prosytize daily in my building as I watch my doormen eject them on a regular basis – after they have snuck in for the unteenth time trying to convert people.
It’s ridiculous, Jews would never do this, we do not impose our beliefs on others.
AprilOrit on April 19, 2009 at 5:45 PM
Being a New York Jew living in Manhattan – thankfully I don’t have to deal with any of it.
Maybe you should get out of New York and interact with some of these “loons” you imagine are infecting the rest of the country. You know the redneck peasants that you apparently look down on. It might open your mind to opinions that don’t reflect your own delusions.
church on April 19, 2009 at 5:45 PM
I am sure the Ort has no problem with polygamy
Jamson64 on April 19, 2009 at 5:46 PM
Being a New York Jew living in Manhattan…
AprilOrit on April 19, 2009 at 5:38 PM
Great.
Please keep me out of the blast zone.
TexasJew on April 19, 2009 at 5:47 PM
So now even Axelrod himself is calling the protesters “teabags.” The teabags should be directed somewhere else huh. The things this administration gets away with on a daily basis makes me ill.
TampaBayBull on April 19, 2009 at 5:48 PM
live in Manhattan so thankfully I don’t have to other than the Mormons who try to prosytize daily in my building as I watch my doormen eject them on a regular basis – after they have snuck in for the unteenth time trying to convert people.
It’s ridiculous, Jews would never do this, we do not impose our beliefs on others.
AprilOrit on April 19, 2009 at 5:45 PM
Oh, Ok, I get it. Mormons who try to peacefully convert people are equivalent to suicide bombers. They might be annoying but blood thirsty theocrats, I don’t think so.
church on April 19, 2009 at 5:48 PM
Don’t worry Texas, this is my fight, you are immune.
AprilOrit on April 19, 2009 at 5:49 PM
I think your idea of “smaller government” is much different than Ronald Reagan’s.
GT on April 19, 2009 at 5:49 PM
Folks, sorry I’m just dropping in here and saw this post on my blackberry.
I was one of only 6 organizers in one of the Florida protests. We drew 3000 people from all walks of life. Black, white, old, young, religious, athiest you name it they showed up.
We had a makeshift platform as a stage in the form of a flat bed truck. We didn’t have a PA system for the morning rally and rented one from a rent-a-center. At 3pm, while getting the makeshift stage ready for the 5pm folks, we looked and saw masses of people approaching down the street with their American flags. We had police on horseback and police on foot.
We had an amazing turnout. So. Eff You David Axelrod. You’re about to be outdone by We the People. We the People are not paid ACORN fockbots. We had kids, moms, dads, grandparents, great grandparents and even an 84 year old lady who spoke about the dangers of socialism. We sang the praises of our forefathers, said the pledge of allegiance and sang God Bless America.
Yeah, we had some glitches because we’re not pro’s at this. But we still pulled it off.
Fock you, David Axelrod. You slithering snake. You slithered your way into office. We will March our way back in, so watch out.
Key West Reader on April 19, 2009 at 5:50 PM
So you dislike Christians because of their belief ? Who now is acting more like the taliban ?
William Amos on April 19, 2009 at 5:51 PM
Interesting. I suppose that you should apologize to Thomas Jefferson and James Madison for being “Far Right Loons” then too. Because the foundation of much conservatism today is simply adhering to our Constitution.
Hawthorne on April 19, 2009 at 5:51 PM
When was the last time a Mormon or a Baptist held a gun to your head and told you to convert or else?
You don’t know the difference between prosytize [sic] and impose.
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GT on April 19, 2009 at 5:51 PM
Being a New York Jew living in Manhattan…need we say more about that?
pcpower1 on April 19, 2009 at 5:52 PM
But that is my point, all of it is unacceptable. OPbvious blood thirsty Muslims are not on a par with proslytisinfg Mormons – but none of it belongs in politics.
My point is this – when we start to bring our religious beliefs into politics – we become them.
AprilOrit on April 19, 2009 at 5:53 PM
So much for unity.
getalife on April 19, 2009 at 5:53 PM
Axelrod is a total
Axelrod!madmonkphotog on April 19, 2009 at 5:53 PM
The right has to get involved because the left is doing exactly what you accuse the GOP of … only they do it by judicial fiat, not legislation. If left alone, the left would have shoved THIER morality (or lack of) down our throats to an even worse depth than they have already.
If government (meaning left judicial activism) would stay out of our private lives the GOP would have no reason to get involved to begin with.
darwin on April 19, 2009 at 5:54 PM
Here we go with the narrow minded attacks against NYC…oh my goodness, LOL.
AprilOrit on April 19, 2009 at 5:54 PM
Terrific comments, Key West reader. Thanks for the great work.
rrpjr on April 19, 2009 at 5:55 PM
Where you fail is that when you remove ALL religion from politics, you have created a state sponsored religion based on atheism. The answer is not to remove religion, but to respect all religions.
Hawthorne on April 19, 2009 at 5:55 PM
look, i don’t know this AprilOrit, but if he/she is a fiscal conservative, then he/she can be part of our “tea-party” protests.
We cannot afford to exclude anyone that believes as we do about big govt, just because we don’t agree on other issues.
kelley in virginia on April 19, 2009 at 5:58 PM
And when politics begin to impose on our religious beliefs?
My belief in what is right and what is wrong originates with the Talmud. I am under threat of imprisonment if I fail to give a portion of my hard earned money to a government that openly says it will use it to fund abortions overseas as well as here in the US regardless of my religious beliefs.
Yet, by your argument, I’m wrong to oppose such things because it goes against my faith.
GT on April 19, 2009 at 5:59 PM
Great job KWR!
darwin on April 19, 2009 at 5:59 PM
I grew up in Queens. I took my family on vacation to NYC two weeks ago. I have never seen so many thousands of people moving in fast-forward with such sad eyes, sneering looks and nasty remarks in my life. Nobody speaks English. Everyone is in a hurry. Almost everyone is rude. There are bums sleeping on church steps with bottles of beer spilled out.
Glad I got to see NYC while it still stands.
Key West Reader on April 19, 2009 at 6:00 PM
AprilOrit will always have the right to protest what they wish or speak their mind. That is not the issue at all. I think what a lot of us hate is the idea that the Republican Party is supposed to be moderate.
Hawthorne on April 19, 2009 at 6:00 PM
Okay. Let’s see what your idea of small government is, along with a little bit of your understanding of the Constitution:
1) Should the federal government be involved in education, especially K-12 education?
2) Should the federal government be involved in individual welfare for citizens of the various states?
These are just a couple of easy ones to get a feeling for your concept of “small government”.
progressoverpeace on April 19, 2009 at 6:00 PM
I agree with you about that as well, but dealing with gay marriage is silly. If these same people who scream the loudest weren’t married and divorced upwards of 3 times, I mean really it’s ridiculous, like a SNL skit.
If they think marriage is under attack why did they get a divorce?
AprilOrit on April 19, 2009 at 6:01 PM
But that is my point, all of it is unacceptable. OPbvious blood thirsty Muslims are not on a par with proslytisinfg Mormons – but none of it belongs in politics.
My point is this – when we start to bring our religious beliefs into politics – we become them.
AprilOrit on April 19, 2009 at 5:53 PM
People vote according to their beliefs, whether they be religious or anything else. You nor anyone else can dictate how or why a particular individual votes a certain way. It is not your business. Each person has the right to vote their way for their reasons. I am not a highly religious person but your assertions that “right wing loons” are running amok in this country is what I am discussing. You live in a NY bubble and believe the propoganda you see and hear in your far left media outlets. You have judged an entire group of people by your own admission without ever have met a single one. You are ignorant and obviously happy wallowing in your ignorance.
church on April 19, 2009 at 6:02 PM
Axelrod drapes Obama with Caesar’s toga to cover all sins.
Hurst of course stages his article with the finishing touch claiming fictitious home support for Obama’s POLICIES. You can tell he wrote his article to counter this morning’s news talk admitting the public determination that Obama’s policies are not credible, though his supporters still “like” him.
maverick muse on April 19, 2009 at 6:03 PM
No
Yes
AprilOrit on April 19, 2009 at 6:03 PM
That’s the true evil hear, isn’t it…….?
……. Axelrod has used his propaganda techniques, knowing what message he could sell onto the American people.
After eight years of the MSM pounding President George W. Bush, the daily reports of the dead in the “War on Terror” with no reporting of the bravery of victories, the manufactured bad news on the economy all the while covering up the Community Reinvestment Act and what was about to happen, America was primed for the propagandist……….
……….Axelrod studied the words to shower the American people with, the same words Bill Clinton used, “Hope”, “Change”, “Tax Cuts for 95%” of the people, things that he new would work on Americans.
No specific plan, but a calculated assault, always hiding Obama’s true leftist ideology…….
……. It was never, “Here is our true candidate and what he truly stands for!”, it was always, “How can we fool them today?”, and the Media in all forms gladly gave up their Constitutional responsibilities, and sold his manufactured public policy for him.
I think Axelrod is scared, scared that Mr. Pantywaist’s true character and ideology are showing……..
……. his propaganda techniques have been shown the light of day, which forces him to make these pathetic appearances on the Sunday shows.
These protests will continue, Mr. Axelrod,………
………. and there is nothing you can do about it.
Seven Percent Solution on April 19, 2009 at 6:03 PM
Being a parody of morality is a human failing. I don’t think it justifies social change in itself, unless you are saying that we need to indoctrinate people to stop being hypocrites.
Hawthorne on April 19, 2009 at 6:03 PM
I respectfully ask that you define what your definition of “Moderate Country” means. I also ask why you define a person who thinks this country is too liberal as a “Loon”.
Your adjectives are actually, quite subjective, and knowing your mindset will help.
ladyingray on April 19, 2009 at 6:07 PM
Fascists are all for states’ rights, the right to dictate how a particular individual must vote (why bother with the charade of the gesture voting, it’s all been predetermined?) or how everyone must believe. It is their business.
The Newspeak of Socialists needs redress.
URTEXT!
maverick muse on April 19, 2009 at 6:08 PM
April,
As a moderate I take it to mean that you support gay marriage. What about polygamy? The same arguments in support for gay marriage work equally well for the polygamy argument. And if you oppose polygamy, doesn’t that make you a hypocrite?
GT on April 19, 2009 at 6:10 PM
what kind of government discourages dissent and people protesting? I don’t ever remember George W Bush telling people they shouldn’t protest he said it was the sign of a healthy democracy. How does Alexrod square American’s rights with his statement?
Dr Evil on April 19, 2009 at 5:00 PM
Exactly.
Liberals don’t seem to understand that when you win elections, it means your opponents get to go on the offensive. And with a conservative new media that’s much more powerful than it was during Clinton’s reign, the left is about to get a taste of what conservatives had to deal with over the past eight years.
If the MSM and the Democrat party do a 180 degree turn on everything they said when Bush was in power, non-partisan, independent voters will notice their hypocrisy. They’ll also notice that when the Republicans were in power, they reacted to criticism much differently than the Democrats will over the next four years.
My dream come true would be for someone to make a Fahrenheit 9/11 type movie that goes after Obama the way Michael Moore went after Bush, released just in time for the 2012 elections. Imagine how the left would react. Imagine the wealth of footage that could be dug up of liberals praising Fahrenheit 9/11, and urging everyone to go see it and “decide for yourself”.
The fact that liberals love Obama as much as they hated Bush is a great weapon that we have at our disposal. With Bush in power, liberals sharpened the knife so that it could cut through cement. But guess what? The knife cuts both ways. Everytime liberals feel threatened by any criticism of Obama, they’ll turn that knife on themselves (hello, Susan Roesgen). All we have to do is give it a little push from our end.
ardenenoch on April 19, 2009 at 6:11 PM
There is nothing moderate about being politically correct.
“Moderate” is hijacked and bantered by progressives who presume to point out the faults of others, particularly how they fall short on PC behavior.
Moderate = PC
like hell
maverick muse on April 19, 2009 at 6:12 PM
Well said.
GT on April 19, 2009 at 6:13 PM
Sending teabags to scumbags is having an effect!
That condescending tone after Obama saying he had never heard of tea parties… ahhh… music to the ears.
“First they ignore you, then they laugh at you, then they fight you, then you win.”
ajacksonian on April 19, 2009 at 6:13 PM
You say.
Regardless, the same arguments in support for polygamy do not relate to gay unions.
maverick muse on April 19, 2009 at 6:14 PM
Many Obama supporters also backed Prop. 8
Is this saying that the dems could be even more successful if they voted social conserve/moral issue?
canditaylor68 on April 19, 2009 at 6:14 PM
Not everyone who is opposed to gay marriage has ever been divorced. Don’t paint with such a broad brush.
BTW, how many of the Jewish holidays do you observe? Not that it matters, but I’m curious if you are Jewish by faith or Jewish by culture.
ladyingray on April 19, 2009 at 6:17 PM
? If X does not equal Y then surely it must be Z.
maverick muse on April 19, 2009 at 6:18 PM
Okay. There’s some hope for you.
But, you should be well aware that the federal government mucking around in individualized welfare to citizens is the foundation of big government that intrudes on our social behaviors and private lives. The federal government was designed to run foreign policy, defense and otherwise work with the states on inter-state issues.
progressoverpeace on April 19, 2009 at 6:18 PM
Actually there is a stronger argument for polygamy than there is for gay unions. Polygamy could use the natural family argument.
Hawthorne on April 19, 2009 at 6:19 PM
I said “gay marriage”, not “gay unions”. According to the Law and the MSM, they are two separate things.
Nevertheless, how is it that arguments for the two – gay marriage and polygamy – do not relate?
What is the difference between two men or two women wanting to marry each other and three men or three women wanting to marry each other other than a number?
GT on April 19, 2009 at 6:21 PM
I always mention that polygamy actually has a long, rich history in just about every culture while gay marriage has never had any history, at all. This is why the gay marriage arguments are just lame. They want to do something that no culture ever did and argue that it is a natural part of a definition that has been operational for millenia, while at the same time denigrating polygamy, for which the precedents were set thousands of years ago. Orwell would be so jealous.
progressoverpeace on April 19, 2009 at 6:23 PM
You get the point.
“Traditional” polygamy (weird adjective, to nip any gay usurp of the term vs. heterosexual unions) is still about male/female=progeny.
Polygamy has as much to do with gay unions as the ban on interracial marriages has to do with gay unions. The homosexual community will grasp any straw and pirate any term in order to appear “acceptable” [recall the homosexual community that begat PC].
maverick muse on April 19, 2009 at 6:25 PM
Sadly, inaccurate.
maverick muse on April 19, 2009 at 6:27 PM
Ah, the lying hypocrite strikes again. We actually have our own individual thoughts and beliefs that sometime conflict, unlike mindless Obama drones that just nod yes every time their dear leader does or says anything.
ManInBlack on April 19, 2009 at 6:28 PM
GT on April 19, 2009 at 6:21 PM
Stupid is as stupid does.
maverick muse on April 19, 2009 at 6:29 PM
Indeed, I believe that the issue of gay marriage is the single best example of mass media and political spin altering the perceptions of a society. There is no history whatsoever of a successful culture that embraces homosexual relationships. In fact, every culture that has openly done so has embraced them on the downward spiral to decadence and failure as a society. Those are not my biases, those are facts.
Anybody that has done a study of the Greek and Roman cultures has discovered that homosexuality was a symptom of a decline into hedonism above social responsibility. This is a conclusion made by anthropologists, not by me. The coincidence of the fall into decadence and decline of both cultures is well documented in myriad ways.
Hawthorne on April 19, 2009 at 6:30 PM
Quite so, old friend. Greetings from Texas!
RushBaby on April 19, 2009 at 6:31 PM
The problem is that we are in the process of redefining the word “marriage”.
Polygamy is the Greek word a Greek word meaning “the practice of multiple marriage”. Just as it against the law to be married to more than one person at a time, it was just as illegal to marry a person of the same sex. Thirty years ago the idea that there was a Constitutional right to gay marriage was laughable. Yet here we are. If there is a Constitutional right to same sex marriage then to be consistant there is a Constitutional right to polygamy.
GT on April 19, 2009 at 6:31 PM
The “tax cuts for 95%” fantasy is precicely one of the biggest reason FOR the tea parties. Cut taxes for those that pay nothing at all basically giving them welfare, when middle class and up will suffer huge tax increases while sock pupped and belagosi ramp up spending on their fascist unhealth system, and worse.
The tea parties ARE a shot across the bow. They’re a warning against what the fascist liberals are planning and currently implementing as well as an attempted wakeup call to the rest of the sleeper lemmings out there that think since it’s OUR government they can’t do anything that abridges our liberties. Wrong. It’s not only a shot over the liberal fascists bow, but any bow that is steering away from our constitution…that means republicans too.
Danger? No. This is only a dangerous situation of the leftists scumbags keep on the course they’re on now and the right wingers don’t do anything useful in stopping them, and restoring sanity to Washington. No, I’m not saying restore it to the way it’s been going before democraps took control and exacerbated an already bad situation, I’m saying the progressivism moving headlong into left wing fascism that started before 1920 needs to be stopped and reversed. NOW.
The only danger is to the idiots that won’t listen and think they can be the few elites that run the rest of us as a slave population. Wrong. The slaves will eventually all wake up, then the slaughter will begin. Yes, they SHOULD be worried, but will that worry be enough to make them do the right thing? I doubt it, based on the kind of people they are showing themselves to be.
Spiritk9 on April 19, 2009 at 6:31 PM
Only in that there is no history of homosexual behavior. However, history does not bring a positive picture on how homosexual behavior impacts society.
Hawthorne on April 19, 2009 at 6:34 PM
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