“Thomas Paine”: It’s time for a million-person march on Washington
posted at 4:50 pm on April 18, 2009 by Allahpundit
Glenn Beck was pushing this idea weeks ago but it’s more plausible now given the success of the tea parties, about which “Paine” is properly excited. A friend who was at an event where he spoke e-mailed me this week to scold me for sniping at him, promising that I’d like him if I just gave him a chance. I do like the idea of fiscal cons flexing their voting muscle with protests; that’s why I support the parties. What I don’t like is this guy’s habit of lapsing into rhetoric about a second revolution, legislators ignoring the people “at your peril,” and, per the letter from a Marine that he reads near the end here, the idea that “our country is under attack from an enemy within” — which isn’t the first time he’s used language about enemies and attacks to describe policy disagreements. I get that the character he’s playing obliges him to use a certain amount of revolutionary parlance, just like I get that I’ll take plenty of heat in the comments for being a squish who’s afraid to fight nutroots fire with fire, etc, but what can I tell you. That sort of rhetoric leaves me cold, and I can’t be the only one. And yes, yes, I know, I’m a RINO whom the party’s better off without anyway. No need to remind me.
One interesting detail: Note his salute to protesters past who marched in the name of green power and ending wars to save lives. He really is aiming this message at both sides of the aisle.
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I, for one, admit I don’t really care what this guy has to say. I just wanted to read your intro to it :)
That’s cool. I thought you were questioning the whole point of them in the first place.
Spirit of 1776 on April 18, 2009 at 4:53 PM
Yeah………
……….. but we keep coming back!
Seven Percent Solution on April 18, 2009 at 4:55 PM
Imagine a million people on the mall yelling “Boo” at Congress and a million in Lafayette Park yelling “Boo” at the Chavez Culture Center, oh, ah, I mean the
White House.
Dhuka on April 18, 2009 at 4:58 PM
Oh yeah, the guy who said “they” attacked Pearl Harbor, “they” brought down the twin towers, and “they” created big deficits. I noticed few bothered when AP highlighted that absurd jump before.
okonkolo on April 18, 2009 at 4:59 PM
You’re not the only one. It’s what gives the lefties an excuse (as if they needed one) to portray anyone with a conservative lean as a whacko.
The “revolution” can take place at the voting booths, thank you very much.
flipflop on April 18, 2009 at 4:59 PM
I disagree. If you want to win over moderate voters who voted for Obama, call him “the enemy within” and stuff. That’s the way to go to convince them to vote for the GOP in 2012.
Also, dressing up like an old-tymey person and pretending you’re Thomas Paine is pretty good.
Right now, I’m wearing a full Pistons uniform and people are like, “Hey Rasheed! Shouldn’t you be gettin beat by the Cavs right now?” And I’m like, “No no. I’m Proud RINO, I’m just here hanging out with David Frum and George Will, not wearing jeans.” But I mean, people take me seriously because I’m dressed up like somebody else.
Proud Rino on April 18, 2009 at 5:02 PM
That was a bad string of connections to use, no doubt.
Spirit of 1776 on April 18, 2009 at 5:03 PM
One of the Red State guys is not pumped about the tea parties.
I would definitely drag my family to DC for protest march.
Dan’s Bake Sale was loads of fun too. In the absence of leadership, it is going to take the grassroots to raise awareness and throw the bums out.
Valiant on April 18, 2009 at 5:06 PM
The eternal question, which motivates more, money or passion. Is someone more motivated to run into a burning house to save their money or their children.
MB4 on April 18, 2009 at 5:06 PM
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“can” – yes. Will? not likely. Other means are stirring.
Hal-9000 on April 18, 2009 at 5:08 PM
Also, remember the first rule is rhetoric: Wear a frilly cravat. People will know you mean business.
Proud Rino on April 18, 2009 at 5:08 PM
Even if this guy’s stuff goes viral, it is still a large number of people who don’t haven’t a clue who he is. I don’t think I would worry about his impact, especially since he appears to be promoting free speech.
Cindy Munford on April 18, 2009 at 5:08 PM
I didn’t know that Paine had a New York accent! :)
Urban Infidel on April 18, 2009 at 5:09 PM
Print this graph, laminate it, and carry it in your wallet. Whenever some lefty nutjob says the Tea Parties were all about partisanship, whip it out (heh) and say, “No, this is what it’s all about. How can you be in favor of these deficits?”
flipflop on April 18, 2009 at 5:09 PM
And weve all seen how well that turns out, if you care so little I would suggest you humbly stay out of the way, there are Patriots who still believe in a free nation and who are willing to do more than pull a switch or scribble on some paper.
Viper1 on April 18, 2009 at 5:11 PM
Care to enlighten us as to what your plan is?
Oh, and I cared enough to serve 27 years in the military.
flipflop on April 18, 2009 at 5:12 PM
AP, by trying to preempt the comments, your post was more about you than the issue.
That’s kind of a drag.
CarolynM on April 18, 2009 at 5:12 PM
All the rest of it aside–we could use a million person march in DC just to scare the pants off the demogogues on the Hill. And it would—Nancy and Harry would have to run for cover, though Nancy may not be able to figure that out.
jeanie on April 18, 2009 at 5:13 PM
These tea parties concern me. They seem to bring out the wackos….These politicians don’t give a damn about tea party protesters…The best way to bring change is to vote..not walk around with silly hats and signs.
therightwinger on April 18, 2009 at 5:14 PM
Hmmmmm my two cents:
I think the Bill of Rights was designed as a foil to the natural impulse of central government(s) to become large and eventually tyrannical. The 2nd Amendment is more than the right to bear arms for self defense from criminals or to hunt game it is also there to keep Government honest.
If all the constitutional and electoral safety valves fail due to corruption, fraud, or the government begins to dictate or becomes unresponsive thereby disenfranchising the majority of the electorate then its no longer democracy is it? The 2nd amendment is the final safety valve.
Some may quail at the thought of violence but it is and remains the final safety valve and the founders thought it important enough to enshrine second only to the right of free speech which is supposedly the true guarantor of democracy.
I think the focus of the argument should be have we become so disenfranchised by the government, the media, and the system that democracy has failed and if so what do we do about it?
elduende on April 18, 2009 at 5:15 PM
You’re still assuming the voting booths are a functioning part of our democracy … they aren’t any longer.
Obama has turned off … enforcement of immigration laws – they’re trying to get as many illegals over the border to vote for Obama as they possibly can. That’s why he’s pushing (and will get) amnesty for these 30 million plus illegal aliens. And even if he doesn’t – he has ACORN out there with their voter fraud. And there are the ACORN satellites and splinter groups that can get illegals into voting booths in places where there’s no ID check … all these groups need is some money to fund their work – hopefully Obama won’t give them any. Oh wait … he already gave them millions in the porkulous.
Additionally – who is it that is always against picture ID at voting booths? Why – that would be the Democrats and Obama!
And … hmm … who’s just announced that they’ll take personal charge of the upcoming Census? Hmmm … well that would be the White House! Silly me … all these coincidences … can’t possibly mean that the voting booth isn’t contaminated now can they?
HondaV65 on April 18, 2009 at 5:16 PM
therightwinger on April 18, 2009 at 5:14 PM
If they bother you so, don’t go and don’t read and don’t post. There-problem solved for you.
jeanie on April 18, 2009 at 5:16 PM
Acorn showed in the last election that the votes of honest citizens don’t count. If it means we need a real revolution to effect the changes we need, then so be it.
Voting won’t effect anything when the game is rigged.
AW1 Tim on April 18, 2009 at 5:17 PM
My sign was not silly and I didn’t wear a hat. Everything brings out the wackos because both sides have them.
Cindy Munford on April 18, 2009 at 5:19 PM
As a lifelong Reagan-voting Christian conservative, they concern me too!
This belief is disproved by their appearances.
The best way to encourage others to vote is to demonstrate an interest in the national goings-on. More of the same (just voting) leads to more of the same.
Spirit of 1776 on April 18, 2009 at 5:19 PM
So why did the polls accurately reflect the vote tally? Did ACORN fix all the polls too?
Proud Rino on April 18, 2009 at 5:19 PM
He’s almost acting like the tea parties were his idea…people just took him up on the challenge. I really don’t think he’s much of a factor one way or the other.
Be interesting to know a little more about him and his background though…I detect something about him that makes uncomfortable.
AUINSC on April 18, 2009 at 5:20 PM
And what is the magic number ACORN must achieve to make our votes irrelevant?
Cindy Munford on April 18, 2009 at 5:20 PM
I’m not going to say there aren’t problems and that elections aren’t being tilted. And all the things you mentioned about immigration and voter ID issues are correct. I’ve posted a few times on my own puny blog about the voter ID thing…it’s one of my pet peeves.
So…what’s the alternative to keeping things like the Tea Parties and other public demonstrations of discontent going to reverse the trend in the next election? Are we really talking armed insurrection here? Good grief…
flipflop on April 18, 2009 at 5:21 PM
therightwinger-
What specific wackos do you mean?
Urban Infidel on April 18, 2009 at 5:21 PM
Don’t you watch CNN? ;)
Spirit of 1776 on April 18, 2009 at 5:22 PM
They’re really talking about it.
And I’m just going to go over here and hold my breath and wait for the armed insurrection to come. Because I’m totally positive that it’s going to happen, and it’s not just a bunch of bozos talking tough on the internet.
Proud Rino on April 18, 2009 at 5:23 PM
Enough about that crazy repoterette. /sarc
Cindy Munford on April 18, 2009 at 5:24 PM
Leftists don’t need an excuse to disagree with the Right; so who give two sh!ts what they think. Do your thing, follow your beliefs regardless of how the Left will perceive you.
As for the “revolution” at the voting booth, get real. The elections will always be won in the middle, that huge group of voters that are neither diehard right or left. And the past few years, the Left has done a much better job at putting its agenda out into the spotlight where the Middle can see it. You have to fight fire with fire, stop being a squish.
LastRick on April 18, 2009 at 5:24 PM
It is our duty to use whatever means necessary to restore the Constitution … or our rights when they are usurped.
Now for those who think this is “nutroots” talk – I ask the following questions …
1. Do you agree that when a Federal Government becomes repressive and violates the Constitution that citizens have an obligation to fight it?
2. How much farther do we need to go here with Obama before that point is reached.
My answer is YES to number 1.
For number 2 – I don’t think we’ve hit the tipping point just yet … or maybe we have. I just don’t know. I’d like to see some Supreme Court rulings on the government takeovers of the auto industry and the banks. I’d like to see some rulings from them on whether or not the government has the right to refuse repayment of tarp – as they are doing. I’d like to see some rulings on the EPA declaring C02 a toxin … wtf? I’d like to see some rulings about the Feds forcing unfunded mandates on to the states via the Porkulous.
In short – I’d like to see the THIRD BRANCH get engaged here before I personally give up on the Union here. What is taking them so long?
HondaV65 on April 18, 2009 at 5:24 PM
Time to choose. I sure didn’t see any silly hats at the one I attended. There were no crazies. I tell you what I did see.
I saw men and women who work hard and play by the rules. I saw men and women who know that ACORN created god knows how many votes of the dead and illegal. I saw men and women who are well educated to the fact that when you increase spending by more that 25% and increase the debt load by 3X, this is not a winning strategy for individuals, communities, or a nation. If this was a good strategy, I suggest each of you try it on an individual basis. By all means, lead the way!
I know that there is a massive misunderstanding of what the people at the Tea Parties are upset about. You can see that in this thread. Keep laughing and mocking and denying. Like I stated, it’s time for choosing.
John D on April 18, 2009 at 5:24 PM
We are not anything close to a majority.
toliver on April 18, 2009 at 5:26 PM
Who is behind this production?
kevinkristy on April 18, 2009 at 5:27 PM
Uh, how exactly am I being a “squish”? Because I don’t like talk hinting at armed revolution?
flipflop on April 18, 2009 at 5:27 PM
The “Obama is Satan/antichrist/born in Africa” wackos…
He’s just a typical liberal democrat. I hate to see our side acting like the left did over Bush…
therightwinger on April 18, 2009 at 5:29 PM
No I think we’re still a majority – but not by much! As soon as Obama has 50% of the peeps paying no taxes – we’re sunk and … that’s coming soon.
Amazing … these guys are amazing. The top earners pay almost all the taxes while the bottom 40 plus percent pay nothing – and yet these guys have everyone angry at the top earners who are keeping us afloat.
How do they do it? How can people be so stupid?
HondaV65 on April 18, 2009 at 5:29 PM
NUT CASE ALERT!!! NUT CASE ALERT!!!
MAN DRESSED IN HALLOWEEN GARB!!! TALKING GIBBERISH!!!
SEEMS EXTREMELY ANGRY AND DISORIENTED!!!!
CALLING FOR MEN-IN-WHITE-COATS TO TAKE HIM TO NEAREST LUNATIC ASYLUM!!!
The Wall on April 18, 2009 at 5:29 PM
I find it fascinating how quickly some descend upon these threads to try to throw cold water on the idea of conservatives taking to the streets to be heard.
TheBigOldDog on April 18, 2009 at 5:29 PM
Huh?
The tea parties were not just about fiscal conservativism. They were about far, far more. They were more about Constitutionalism than about fiscal conservativism.
progressoverpeace on April 18, 2009 at 5:29 PM
Fox is using cons again to fight against a tax increase (going back to Clinton taxes) for the wealthy.
If you are wealthy, hit the streets.
getalife on April 18, 2009 at 5:30 PM
There were SO FEW if any people like that at the one I attended. Which tea party did you go to?
Urban Infidel on April 18, 2009 at 5:31 PM
Clearly that was directed at our resident Beta who said in the intro
I wonder how he and I are both Libertarians. He’s so squish, I’m practically a militant by comparison.
LastRick on April 18, 2009 at 5:31 PM
heh heh.
Proud Rino on April 18, 2009 at 5:32 PM
There are a lot of apathetic people who don’t even bother to register to vote. Reaching and motivating these people is important. Nay, it’s critical. When they see like-minded people taking to the streets they get motivated to get involved.
TheBigOldDog on April 18, 2009 at 5:32 PM
I think “Mr. Payne’s” comment about representatives ignoring the people at their peril is as harmless as saying pay attention or get voted out.
I would make an effort to march on Washington as part of the million. I keep hearing how the TEA parties were civil affairs. (I had to work) I think tailgating with a million like-minded American’s and some brats, while asking, no demanding, that Washington pay attention is a great recipe for fun activism!
Ordinary1 on April 18, 2009 at 5:32 PM
Right! But they all sure seemed to end up on TV, didn’t they?
Proud Rino on April 18, 2009 at 5:33 PM
If you think taxes are only going to go up on the wealthy…Especially at the state and local level, you’re nuts..
therightwinger on April 18, 2009 at 5:33 PM
I’ll tell you what … something all of you SANE Conservatives and all of us NUTTY Conservatives (like me :) ) can agree on.
If you want to prevent ARMED revolution – the best way is to put some kind of “check” on the Democrats now. And right now – the best … PEACEFUL … method of doing that is to join this dude’s million man march on Washington. A march might prevent you from having to dust off the fire pole in the closet.
And after that – we need to get to the ballot boxes next election …
And along with that … we need to OPPOSE amnesty for illegals and DOCUMENT AND PROSECUTE EVERY INSTANCE OF VOTING FRAUD.
HondaV65 on April 18, 2009 at 5:33 PM
I’m glad you liked that :)
progressoverpeace on April 18, 2009 at 5:34 PM
Before you make your final decision please go to one. It was really nice to be with 2000 people, say the Pledge of Allegiance and sing the Star Spangled Banner. There was zero rancor. I have never been to any kind of protest or rally but this seemed positive to me.
Cindy Munford on April 18, 2009 at 5:34 PM
Again, worry what the media or the Left says is a LOSING STRATEGY! It is playing their game, by their rules. They are going to portray people the way they choose regardless of reality.
TheBigOldDog on April 18, 2009 at 5:35 PM
AP, you and the head lizardoid are two of the best conservative bloggers – not because you fall hard right on every issue, but because you two are able to have intelligent discourse that is engaging.
Don’t sweat the flamethrowers, and keep up the good fight.
studentpat on April 18, 2009 at 5:35 PM
And I didn’t see a single nut at the Tea Party in Richmond who portrayed Obama as anything but what he is – the architect of out of control liberal spending.
flipflop on April 18, 2009 at 5:36 PM
They have.
Sin taxes while ya’ll were having tea parties.
The President cut your taxes and will end the tax cuts for the wealthy.
Are you wealthy?
Then protest.
getalife on April 18, 2009 at 5:36 PM
+1
This nails it. We don’t change anything by just “going to the polls”. That doesn’t change the mind of the voter beside you who mindlessly pulls R or D every year without thinking why. It takes an extra step (or three). The TEA Party movement is a nice start.
LastRick on April 18, 2009 at 5:36 PM
I found this quote, which reminded me of Allahpundit:
atheling on April 18, 2009 at 5:36 PM
“My name is Thomas Paine”
No its not.
“march for green power”
Marching for “green power”? What does he think we are…liberal gay-boy democrats??
The Wall on April 18, 2009 at 5:37 PM
Every political gathering will have a few nuts; what I like about the Tea Parties is that people are beginning to realize that they don’t have to accept the status quo — i.e. a biennial choice between two brands of tax-and-spend pols.
The problem, especially at the Federal Gov’t. level, is that once these people get into office, it’s all about their own incumbency. Their main focus is buying off one constituency group or another with taxpayer dollars to retain power. The Dems are absolutely shameless about it (especially the current crop), but the Republicans are only marginally better.
Many people have come to see the charade for what it is. The Tea Parties let them know they’re not alone in their disgust, and that they do have the power to remind politicians who they work for.
If a guy in a silly costume helps that realization along, that’s fine with me.
cruadin on April 18, 2009 at 5:38 PM
I had no idea the tea parties were for green power like windmills and stuff. I know the original Thomas Paine was all over the idea of windmills and tapping the power of the ocean tide for power. Well, now we know what 1776 was about after all….solar panels.
Hey thats greeeeeeaaaaaaat.
The Wall on April 18, 2009 at 5:39 PM
Put your supervisor on the keyboard will you! At least he/she could communicate intelligently.
TheBigOldDog on April 18, 2009 at 5:39 PM
Just so we’re clear…I’m with you on the million dude/dudette march. I think it’s a great idea, as I thought the tea parties were a great idea. Keep the noise level high enough, and those voters in the middle who usually don’t pay attention just might start paying attention.
flipflop on April 18, 2009 at 5:39 PM
Cap&Trade, to name but a single example, is not “out of control liberal spending” but something far more dangerous and insidious. The spending is only a small part of what is killing this nation and what we stand for.
progressoverpeace on April 18, 2009 at 5:40 PM
Listen to what Steyn says about that though. Here I’ll even get you the link: here (it’s within the first few minutes).
Spirit of 1776 on April 18, 2009 at 5:40 PM
When we have the million geek march, lets all bring pitchforks. Now THAT would rule.
The Wall on April 18, 2009 at 5:40 PM
The silent majority no more? I don’t think we are yet the majority. However, a large portion of our population has not yet felt the effects of the administrations policies. In the next 4 years the economic pain is going to become extreme. People of all demographics are going to feel it. Two months ago my spouse was saying how he kept hearing all this bad news on the economy but all around him he saw buisness as usual. Where is the economic downturn? He thought it was just Obama hyping it for political advantage, and of course there was that too. Well last month he started to see. He lost his job. We are hurting. Whereas two months ago our lives were humming along as usual. Oh, and that $400 credit, we don’t qualify, not that we wanted it. Just saying. When life turns gray for the average citizen they will turn back to the basics. Faith, family, and traditional values. When that happens it will be a game changer. It happened in the 70′s which led to Reagan and it will happen again. Socialism doesn’t work. But from time to time Americans get too comfortable and complacent and forget what it is like to struggle and must be reminded what Reagan said. Freedom is not passed through the bloodstream from one generation to the next. It must be fought for a protected or in our sunset years we will be telling stories of the America that used to be where men were once free.
church on April 18, 2009 at 5:41 PM
I love that.
Cindy Munford on April 18, 2009 at 5:42 PM
To be more specific, it is not so much the idiotic spending they are doing that is killing us, but the fact that they have refused to address the financial crisis, holding it hostage, in order to force their social engineering programs through. That is far more than just the spending, but the way they are threatening the rest of our economy, and our monetary system, in order to force their spending (and future obligations) down our throats.
In the end it won’t matter, because this system will not be able to withstand the strain.
progressoverpeace on April 18, 2009 at 5:43 PM
It may be typical liberalism to instigate a 10-12 trillion deficit, I don’t know would Hillary done that? Maybe, but I don’t agree with that.
We can’t allow Congress to just pass a bill of a TRILLION dollars without even taking time to read it! They didn’t even allow Republicans to read it–let alone challange it. The first TARP was bad but at least it did get some debate and some convincing was done– you know the way democracy is suposed to work?
Creating a crisis with the intention of slipping this by the American people–a Trillion dollars–and no one complains? Please.
We need to do something and we don’t have enough representation in government to make a dent. We need to march.
Although personally–that would mean quite a long trip and my 90 year old mother who was just put in a nursing home is also a long drive… so I don’t’ know how my family can go to Washington DC instead of Washington State.
Are there enough conservatives in surrounding states to get to 1,000,000?
petunia on April 18, 2009 at 5:43 PM
We actually had a speaker on that possibility. Most others were generalizations, that was the only specific.
Cindy Munford on April 18, 2009 at 5:44 PM
These so-called righties posting(I question if they are genuine, one, at least, we know to be a fake))seem to have lost sight of the fact that to get people to vote your way you need publicity–of all persuasions and sorts. The tea party I attended was orderly, the signs relevant and the people quite ‘normal’. I would certainly attend a million person march–I’d even attend a 500,000 person march. LOL As for the other mechanics involved in getting out the vote, I intend to put my stimulus money to good use getting GOPers ‘hired’ via the ballot box and any other means I might deem useful.
jeanie on April 18, 2009 at 5:44 PM
I think of this every time the trolls show up to throw their cold water around:
“You smell that? Do you smell that? Fear, son. Nothing
else in the world smells like that. I love the smell of fear in the morning. The smell, you know that cat piss smell, the whole thread. Smelled like – victory.”
TheBigOldDog on April 18, 2009 at 5:45 PM
I suggested this weeks ago…but all I ever get is “criticism”. Everyone is so smart here. I have no doubt that “Scalleywag?” Came up with the same idea.
JoeySlippers on April 18, 2009 at 5:45 PM
Nope we have to convince others we are right and Obama is wrong. No small task that. But I think we are right so we have to try.
petunia on April 18, 2009 at 5:45 PM
Excellent. Somehow this whole thing got painted as purely anti-tax or anti-spend, when the inspiration for it was incorrect spending and unfair taxation. It was anti-bailout, for its starting point.
We had a guy (in Philly) who went on a bit about the Fed. That was fine with me, since Philly has a Fed it seemed especially relevant. The guy was pretty decent in his speech.
progressoverpeace on April 18, 2009 at 5:47 PM
Well Allah, I’m no longer a republican, I’m not that excited about this guy either but the movement that hatched back in February with Michelle kicking in for the lunch is real. And I love it. If one thing good comes from these Tea Parties and protests, I hope it will be a Constitutional Amendment describing term limits for members of Congress. It may take an election cycle or two or three but I’m hoping.
Zorro on April 18, 2009 at 5:48 PM
It boggles the mind.
Spirit of 1776 on April 18, 2009 at 5:49 PM
church on April 18, 2009 at 5:41 PM
I am sorry to hear about your trouble. I have been part of 4 companies that crashed and burned, I know what it is like to lose a job that way.
The thing is, my wife and I do pretty well. I am grateful for the life we have. However, we didn’t just pull success out of an easy bake oven. It requires 80 to 85 hour weeks where we don’t know if we are coming or going.
I am not special and I am not asking for a damn thing. I pay my taxes, my bills, obey the law, and take care of my family. Like I said, I am not special. Now though, I see all my hard work go to support the non-productive and unlawful scum like ACORN. That is not ok. The deficit at the end of Bush’s term was around 450 Billion Dollars. An insane sum, no? Washingtons own assessment for the end of 2009 is 1.85 Trillion. We can NEVER pay that debt off. I mean EVER. They have bankrupted the nation, yet we have posters here, saying, all is well. It is not well. There will be a rough crash. Then it will be too late. But hey, we got to laugh at those wackos in funny hats, right?
John D on April 18, 2009 at 5:49 PM
Exactly – as long as the Tea Parties accomplish something (and I think they are) … then there is no need to resort to secession and other forceful means to assert our Constitutional rights.
What I absolutely don’t understand – is people like Allah – who sneer at the Tea Parties, laugh at the secessionists, and poo-poo the revolutionaries.
Not trying to slam Allah here – I know he’s a great guy – but what exactly does he stand for? What’s his solution to getting this nation back on track? Or does he believe it’s on track?
In short – what do the “Allahs” want?
HondaV65 on April 18, 2009 at 5:50 PM
At this point, the MSM is trying to ignore the rumblings of discontent, not unlike the early days of the civil rights movement. Would not a million or two protesters make this jut a tad more difficult to ignore?
At some point, we will need to get off our collective a$$es and let the DC elites from both parties know their narcisistic ways will no longer be tolerated.
Elections do have consequences but our reps in Washington need to be sent a very clear message. “We’re mad as hell and we’re not going to take it any more!” Change your ways or you will be voted out of office.
GrayDog on April 18, 2009 at 5:52 PM
and to think how these past few years it’s been, “you “fiscal cons”…” and the like.
glad to see that the grassroots’ first instinct has been to focus on property rights and free enterprise.
watching my back, though.
eh on April 18, 2009 at 5:52 PM
I think it changes from day to day.
progressoverpeace on April 18, 2009 at 5:53 PM
You are missing the point if you watched the rest of the world protest.
They screwed up huge, gambled huge and lost huge. Trillions lost worldwide.
Yet, the ones that screwed up are not paying the price and going back to business as usual thanks to your money bailing them out.
The ones paying the price are the ones that lost their jobs, their savings, their houses, thanks to the greedy ones that gambled huge and lost.
getalife on April 18, 2009 at 5:54 PM
I have to say the old geezer is making sense. Too bad we haven’t got a non-costumed leader saying this stuff.
RadioFreeUSA on April 18, 2009 at 5:56 PM
In short – what do the “Allahs” want?
HondaV65 on April 18, 2009 at 5:50 PM
That’s an easy one. Site traffic!
jeanie on April 18, 2009 at 5:57 PM
Yup. Coming from someone who has sat and watched manual recounts, you have no idea who is voting dead, early and often. This last election clearly showed that the basically good system has been compromised by fraud.
Not that it will stop me from voting, but I also know voting will not necessarily ‘cut it’ in this war.
koz on April 18, 2009 at 5:57 PM
Tax cuts of any kind effect everyone, my darling.
If you don’t think any additional taxes on businesses don’t trickle down to consumers, you’re deluding yourself.
If you don’t think additional taxes on the rich don’t affect their investment habits, or if you don’t think it causes high earners to shelter their income (resulting in even less revenue to the fed), you’re lying to yourself.
If you don’t think accelerated government spending has no effect on inflation (the hidden tax that everyone pays), you’re blind.
No one’s ever gotten a job from a poor person. Enough with the class warfare nonsense.
TheMightyMonarch on April 18, 2009 at 5:58 PM
It feels like that is what is happening.
ladyingray on April 18, 2009 at 5:58 PM
ALLAH, when did you become a RINO? Differences is what make us strong … Politicians always say they are fighting for you. Wasn’t it just the hopey changey revolution?
tarpon on April 18, 2009 at 5:58 PM
This administration told us that his stimulus would help the average American. The the trolls own admission, you can’t point to one needy American being stiulated. What you got is politcal friends of TOTUS and big biz scumbags being enriched. How is that change?
It is just like the $4oo.oo dollar tax bs. He didn’t change the tax bracket, only the witholding. You have to show that as income and do what?,,, That’s right, you will have to pay taxes on it. It is just another shell game to pacify morons.
I wish that CNN reporter had asked me about the 400 dollars, I would have asked her; so you would whore out your honor for only 400. Nice.
John D on April 18, 2009 at 5:58 PM
John D on April 18, 2009 at 5:49 PM
I agree with you. But I think you misunderstood. I am not whining, merely giving an example of how circumstances can change and possibly wake people up to the problems that are being created by this administration. We are hurting, but not asking for anything, to us it is unthinkable to ask for government help or any other help. We will fix our own problems. We always have and always will. My point was simply sometimes our society starts to take for granted the things we have and some begin to believe the continuation of their lifestyle is owed to them. Well it isn’t. If you fall down you pick yourself back up. No one owes you anything. If people just applied the formula this administration is using to their own households they would see the sand this whole scheme of Obama’s is being built on. As for the tea parties, I am all in favor and should their be a million person march on Washington I would be proud to attend funny hat and all.
church on April 18, 2009 at 5:59 PM
Except for a politician :)
progressoverpeace on April 18, 2009 at 6:00 PM
TheMightyMonarch on April 18, 2009 at 5:58 PM
That is the mindset of a failed ideology.
Wake up and look what happened to the economy stupid.
getalife on April 18, 2009 at 6:00 PM
“rumblings of discontent” Yes, these need to become an avalanche, something that cannot be ignored by the spenders on the Hill. If it takes little grandstanding, purposeful organizing and determination–so be it. Let’s get ‘er done.
jeanie on April 18, 2009 at 6:01 PM
church on April 18, 2009 at 5:59 PM
Yep, sorry I tied my rant to my initial comment about your situation. I know you were not asking for anyting. I’m sorry if it came across like that. I understood where you were coming from and in my clumsy way I was trying to empathize. You know how us right wing nutjobs struggle with that!
John D on April 18, 2009 at 6:02 PM
Revolution would be ruinous; it would almost certainly destroy prematurely much of the good that remains in the United States. It would be as if one were to dismember a sick man in order to put him back together right. Revolution and every action short of it seems so futile, I keep returning to an opinion that the best course may be to write autopsies even while the host is still alive. For who will have leisure to think and write after the host is dead? And one must think of ways to ensure the autopsies survive the death of the host. For one’s successors must have a new host.
Kralizec on April 18, 2009 at 6:02 PM
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