Quote of the day
posted at 9:30 pm on April 18, 2009 by Allahpundit
“There are those who think we can win the White House and Congress back by being ‘more’ conservative. Worse, there are those who think we can win by changing nothing at all about what our party has become. They just want to wait for the other side to be perceived as worse than us. I think we’re seeing a war brewing in the Republican party, but it is not between us and Democrats. It is not between us and liberals. It is between the future and the past. I believe most people are ready to move on to that future…
I am concerned about the environment. I love to wear black. I think government is best when it stays out of people’s lives and business as much as possible. I love punk rock. I believe in a strong national defense. I have a tattoo. I believe government should always be efficient and accountable. I have lots of gay friends. And yes, I am a Republican.”
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Most people I know want the economy repaired and a better chance of taking care of their families. Although they don’t disagree with the the social conservative tenants, it isn’t a reason they would vote for or against a candidate. Both sides need to stop trying to banish the other, especially for the perfectly inane reasons that they give. I have never bought into the theory that social conservatives in mass stayed out of the voting booth in November but I do believe that a lot of fiscal conservatives voted for President Obama. Because they said they did. All on the belief that they felt certain he couldn’t be as liberal as he appeared and he’s really cool and he went to all those good schools.
Cindy Munford on April 18, 2009 at 10:52 PM
She calls herself a Progressive Republican
Hillary calls herself a Progressive also.
What’s in common is Progressive.
Progressive = Liberal
Kini on April 18, 2009 at 10:52 PM
She should expand her horizons and meet some straight people. The “Log Cabin” types are the only “Republican” group that she has shown any acceptance for and even attended a rally for them a couple of months ago.
Buddahpundit on April 18, 2009 at 10:52 PM
I can’t stand her talk about “newness.”
who is the party actually calling for new ideas? Which group is calling for the end of corporatism, the end of the welfare state, the end of wasteful spending and government debauchery? The conservatives. while we look forward to a new day, the left is dragging us into days past with their flourishing rhetoric of a new tomorrow.
Yea, we like old stuff. But we also like new attitudes towards government; She’s totally just setting up straw man after straw man
blatantblue on April 18, 2009 at 10:52 PM
And wouldn’t a Progressive Republican cancel itself out?
Kini on April 18, 2009 at 10:53 PM
People like the tattoed RINO cow are a prime reason I am NOT a republican.
It’s not that republican conservatives need to move left, center, or farther right. Conservative is what it is, conservative. You cannot sacrifice bits of what you believe in exchange for getting more votes, being more popular. It’s bullsh1t frankly.
Believe what you believe and stick to it. If everyone was just honest about it and stopped trying to use conservatism or progressivism to get into office in order to soak us for ever goddamn dime we have and suck away all out liberties and whore us out to the rest of the world we might actually get somewhere….that somewhere being a respectable lot of people that have decent core beliefs and stick to them.
This silly bitch isn’t one of those respectable people. You can’t read what she JUST said and compare it to crap she’s said in the past…she’s just a fat piece of crap that wants face time and people to adore her.
I’ll adore her when she starts modeling for RINO on a ROPE in person.
Spiritk9 on April 18, 2009 at 10:53 PM
Yeah, I’m no fan of amnesty – and I see its implementation causing a lot; however, if the GOP is so willing to tolerate people like Spector, then perhaps the rule should be to let amnesty become more of a state’s issue – yes, it affects the nation, but we can’t really expect to get the Hispanic vote if the senators from FL or AZ are pro throw out the illegals… It’s a complicated mess – no thanks to our past presidents
Upstater85 on April 18, 2009 at 10:53 PM
Hmmm… It seems so obvious in hindsight but I don’t recall seeing this variation before.
+1
FloatingRock on April 18, 2009 at 10:54 PM
I hear you there. She is young and not trying to be mean but have to be honest. I was once there myself. When I was young I thought I knew how to change the world. I look back and chuckle at myself.
sheebe on April 18, 2009 at 10:54 PM
She isn’t a Republican.
aigle on April 18, 2009 at 10:54 PM
I don’t care. She’s just so damn pretty…..
n0doz on April 18, 2009 at 10:54 PM
In the history of the Republican Party, there was one very famous Progressive Republican. That would be Teddy R. You know, Mac’s hero… No surprise here…
Upstater85 on April 18, 2009 at 10:54 PM
her speech is so frustrating because she is totally misrepresenting what we are
either intentionally or by accident.
blatantblue on April 18, 2009 at 10:54 PM
Yeah, must not be a Republican… Never met one that had one… /sarc
Upstater85 on April 18, 2009 at 10:55 PM
I always thought that the term RINO was developed to label actual politicians who had (R) by their names, yet through their actions, policies and leadership were obvious democrats.
Kind of like Lincoln Chaffey and Arlen Spector.
Republican In Name Only.
However, I think it evolved to mean pundits, journalist, even posters. I am guilty of using it out of context myself.
I will try to stop that.
carbon_footprint on April 18, 2009 at 10:55 PM
Yep… Yawn…
Another non Conservative Republican… whose only claim to fame if a famous name…
I for one, am tired of the Washington dynastys. Kennedys, Bush’s….
What next… a Sec of state whose only claim to fame is not divorcing a guy who cheated on her?… oh… wait… crap…
Romeo13 on April 18, 2009 at 10:55 PM
She’s average, but she’s very, VERY ugly on the inside. Ever see an empty cranium? Pretty ugly.
Spiritk9 on April 18, 2009 at 10:55 PM
It’s not about Meghan herself. She does nothing for me. I was brought in by Sarah Palin, believe it or not — and got a lot of crap from my gay friends for supporting/donating to/voting for her.
I’m simply extracting the message from what she’s saying, rather than focusing on the red, red meat within that makes people scream “TURNCOAT!”
The majority of America is conservative. They are for less taxes. They are for less government. And — believe it or not — they are “pro-family,” but just to varying degrees.
Meghan isn’t attacking Republicans. Or even Republicanism. She’s attacking a PR problem that only feeds the omnipresent MSM sports-battle coverage of the parties. Adapt and change the message. “Change” toppled Hillary and turned the moderate-conservative, and amazing Sarah Palin into the “Bible Thumping Idiot from Wasilla, Alaska.” It’s not about selling out values, but about changing the emphases of the messages.
Economy, economy, economy. Less taxes, less taxes, less taxes. Less government, less government, less government. Let federalism address the social issues. Let the communities adapt and change on their own regarding abortion and same-sex unions. Don’t make it a party plank, because then it only polarizes people — either for or against the plank in toto.
I can’t disagree with that. Yes, she expresses it more simplistically — and it does her a disservice amongst present conservatives — but I certainly could never disagree with the intent.
lansing quaker on April 18, 2009 at 10:56 PM
I had posted this over on Doctor Galt thread, but I think it is far more appropriate here…
Who the hell are you to say who is and isn’t a Conservative. It is getting pretty lame, accusing anyone who does not agree with ‘hard-right’ principles of being either a RINO, or a non-conservative. I too am a Conservative who is Pro-Choice. As far as I am concerned, it is between the person and their God; my God tells me not to judge, lest ye be judged. Telling people that they can’t ‘belong to your little Conservative Club’ if they don’t agree is childish and asinine. The Right needs all the voters it can get if it hopes to be in power again. And that means you need the Independents, RINO’s,, Reagan Democrats, etc. There is saying my mother was always very fond of: Don’t cut off your nose to spite your face. Think on it, if you are capable of independent thought.
pcbedamned on April 18, 2009 at 8:26 PM
pcbedamned on April 18, 2009 at 10:56 PM
I thought we weren’t supposed to comment on her weight.
James on April 18, 2009 at 10:56 PM
arguably Lincoln was a reformer at heart….(I believe it is overstated but there myself)
Juan Queeg<TR
sven10077 on April 18, 2009 at 10:56 PM
If Reagan and Goldwater are the past, and McCain is the future, I’ll gladly stick with past. Thank you very much.
compare this with :
Let us resolve tonight that young Americans will always … find there a city of hope in a country that is free…. And let us resolve they will say of our day and our generation, we did keep the faith with our God, that we did act worthy of ourselves, that we did protect and pass on lovingly that shining city on a hill
lol, yeah, she’s the future alright. Maybe she should stop attacking others in the party if she truly cares about inclusiveness and the future of the party.
Then again, she can have the Republican Party. It is pretty much dead to me now. Conservatism lives on.
Daemonocracy on April 18, 2009 at 10:56 PM
she acts like we’re all a bunch of crusty old Price is Right viewers.
what poppyc0ck
argh this girl really makes me irritated shes so naive
blatantblue on April 18, 2009 at 10:56 PM
I wasnt
blatantblue on April 18, 2009 at 10:57 PM
McShamnesty’s daughter is so vacuous, when someone called her a RINO, she thought they were calling her fat.
csdeven on April 18, 2009 at 10:57 PM
What about a WH “mutt” that isn’t from America’s Royal Kennel? Oh, wait…
Upstater85 on April 18, 2009 at 10:57 PM
I get what you’re saying (I think), but actually I think when push comes to shove Meghan is probably someone who would support a lot of the entitlement programs that many of us find to be more about social engineering than about helping people. In other words, I doubt she’s a small government conservative.
I do not think that gay marriage or abortion are the biggest factors in what went down this past fall… and I say that as someone who does not believe that pushing social issues (on a national level) as a winning formula either.
In terms of worrying about winning the “youth” vote, why bother? Give young adults four or five years of working and paying taxes and they’ll come around.
Y-not on April 18, 2009 at 10:57 PM
No, you bring up a valid point. Lincoln’s party was different than Reagan’s… Hey, where have you been, lately? We missed you.
Upstater85 on April 18, 2009 at 10:58 PM
A poster after the article made a great point. Ms. McCain might like to mention exactly what it is she likes about the Republican party. Is she shooting to be the new leader of this better party?
Cindy Munford on April 18, 2009 at 10:58 PM
Chip of the ol’ block.
Saltysam on April 18, 2009 at 10:58 PM
I don’t hate her but find her annoying because she says things that are just recycled MSM boilerplate and claims she’s the savior of the GOP.
Her points are also so simplistic that I just can’t help but dismiss her as vapid and shallow.
“Republicans hate Gays so if we just stopped hating them we’d win! yay!”
“We shouldn’t want to destroy the environment people!”
“Ew, Conservatism! Yuck!”
Kronos on April 18, 2009 at 10:58 PM
I say let her have her Brokeback Mountain moment. I wonder if that is one of her fav. movies.
“I wear black. I have a tattoo. My favorite movie is Brokeback Mountain…”
deidre on April 18, 2009 at 10:58 PM
Yea man, i feel like shes setting up this straw man that gay marriage and abortion have somehow set us in this dark corner of the country.
i dont know i just feel like most people are conservative
its just all the packaging, not the actual product. we’ve had bad packaging.
blatantblue on April 18, 2009 at 10:59 PM
I think the real problem that the GOP has (not to be confused with single issue sects of the conservative movement) is messaging in a way that resonates with the younger generation. Look at it this way…kids know the difference between emo, goth, and punkpop, and have heated discussions about how crappy one is and how great the other is (we’re talking music here). So, while all I hear is noise, they can see the shades of gray.
Yet, somehow, they can’t seem to shake that wanting border security and being anti-illegal immigrant doesn’t equal being anti-immigrant or a bigot. Messaging.
Or how our thinking that “marriage” should be between a man and a woman doesn’t mean we care what one man does to another mans butt in the privacy of their own roadside rest stop.
Want to give your kids a lesson in “fairness”? Call their friends over and hand them each an equal portion of your kids’ allowance. Tell them that you are spreading it around, as it were. They’ll get the message.
We just need to find a way to reach the younger generation in a way that they will understand. Most conservatism is common sense and human nature, they’ll get it if we market it right.
And we won’t have to give up our principles.
OneEyedJack on April 18, 2009 at 10:59 PM
If that’s the message her and AP are trying to convey, then someone needs to be a tad bit more articulate…
I’m sticking with my statement that she will be a deterrent to actual right-leaning indies…
Upstater85 on April 18, 2009 at 11:00 PM
ah well. i think she has a lot to learn. im hopeful she will learn it.
new isnt always good, meghan.
blatantblue on April 18, 2009 at 11:00 PM
I believe they are. The people vote time and time again against same-sex marriage. I just don’t get the logic that that is what we have to become to win votes.
deidre on April 18, 2009 at 11:00 PM
It was very hard for me to vote for her father, knowing he is a RINO. But I voted for Sarah. Now we have to put up with his daughter who thinks she is a Journalist and now a Politician. Then has the nerve to say Conservatives must change their morals. That fries me.
sheebe on April 18, 2009 at 11:01 PM
I think she’s got the Republican party confused with the townfolk from Footloose.
Apple doesn’t fall far from the Presidential election loser.
NeoconNews.com on April 18, 2009 at 11:01 PM
It is this false consciousness that she has fallen into –
that somehow NEW IS GOOD
OLD IS BAD.
“Republicans cling on to past successes,” she says.
BECAUSE THEY WERE SUCCESSES.
DUH
blatantblue on April 18, 2009 at 11:01 PM
Hey Mehgan,
tell your old man its not cool or Republican to vote to spend trillions bailing out the Dems favorite bankers. He should have stood with Republicans, real ones, against the bailout and named, names, he should have done as he said he would and Fight, Fight, Fight!
Instead he caved and sold out his party and the American people to be friends with Dems or just out of ignorance. He allowed his good friends to paint capitalism and free market enterprise as the problem not Fannie and Freddie and affirmative action loans
At any rate he lied. He did not uphold his end of the bargain. That may be Progressive but it is not Cool and I certainly hope not Republican.
By the way tell him I want my $50.00 back to give to Sarah.
dhunter on April 18, 2009 at 11:03 PM
Allah,
How about a poll? Give us a chance to show our idealistic young friend just how hip and diverse we are!
Set up a poll where we can tally up how many of us like punk rock, have tattoos, like to wear black, and have gay friends.
C’mon, it’d be fun!
For extra fun you can even have us report on our choice of pets (cats vs dogs) to settle the question from that other thread.
:-)
Y-not on April 18, 2009 at 11:03 PM
then she says
oh we’re waiting to be perceived as less bad then the democrats.
no, we’ve been trying to be perceived as democrats, period.
blatantblue on April 18, 2009 at 11:03 PM
Sarah? Sarah who?
Upstater85 on April 18, 2009 at 11:03 PM
I think you make some excellent points. It isn’t necessarily about values, message matters. Obama won pretending to be a moderate while spouting change and hope, nothing more. Those who are politically astute (small % generally) could read between the lines. I don’t think we need to be getting out in front of the gay marriage issue though, Obama isn’t because the support isn’t there. We need to be all over small government, low spending and low taxes. I noticed in his radio address today he made a big deal about how he is cutting spending. He can read the polls. He won’t do it though.
msmveritas on April 18, 2009 at 11:05 PM
Or at least let us pick which femme célèbre we’d like to get the daily gossip from…
Upstater85 on April 18, 2009 at 11:05 PM
The you’re right that we need the “youth” vote but while Meghan McCain is advocating that we pander to each of these individual groups (“youth”, “gays”, etc.) we need to simply appeal to people on the basis of them being Americans.
Stated correctly anyone with a job or even an allowance can understand the fundamental unfairness and moral wrongness of the government redistributionism.
I don’t actually think we have that much of a messaging problem. We have a candidate problem. The last solid conservative who ran for president was Ronald Reagen. I don’t Bush was (TARP) and I know McCain wasn’t. We just need a decent candidate then we can worry about messaging.
Kronos on April 18, 2009 at 11:05 PM
Oh, agreed.
See my latest comment on what I perceive Meghan McCain’s intent to be. The problem isn’t with Conservatives; it’s with how the media frames them. You perceive Meghan to be buying into that. I think she — via her own voice (which is not very fabulous) — is saying “we’re not all like this, and the media message has to change.”
And it does. Especially when the MSM is more than content to keep up with the demonizing of “Republicans,” as the Tea Party CNN Chicago coverage showed us most recently.
If the GOP — en masse — just said “Federalism! Let the States/Municipalities decide!” to the hot button social issues, you’d see a lot more Republicans elected. Politicians can vote their conscience and for their constituencies. But it won’t be such a national PR issue.
But I want you to know that I agree with you 100%. Conservatives, by far, have been much better people to interact with than rabid liberals.
lansing quaker on April 18, 2009 at 11:05 PM
Amnesty did not work under Reaga, if anything, it swelled the welfare rolls.
Granting Amnesty to the 12 million illegals (estimated number, but there could easily be as many as 25 million in this country because the government purposely undercounts just to save face) would be a disaster. No way could our society absorb that many undereducated, low skilled and non-english speaking citizens at one time. They would be ripe targets for demagogues who will promise them with entitlements galore and before we know we actually will have true socialism in America. Latin America style socialism.
Daemonocracy on April 18, 2009 at 11:06 PM
Fist: off she dodnt right that… no way..
Second: Allah how old are you? I’m convinced that you write what you do with the sole puprpose of trying to get a rise out of your own posters… geez grow up already
And I promised myself I wouldn’t comment on another MMcCain thread…*sigh*
CCRWM on April 18, 2009 at 11:06 PM
Upon second thought, instead of a simple poll perhaps a contest where people submit pix of themselves in punk regalia and/or close ups of their tats would be fun…
Y-not on April 18, 2009 at 11:07 PM
First: off she didnt right that… no way.. sorry
CCRWM on April 18, 2009 at 11:07 PM
I realize this, but it doesn’t solve the problem.
Upstater85 on April 18, 2009 at 11:08 PM
oh well.
i dont think meghan is gonna get it, at least for a while now.
ill just ramble on about it to myself.
blatantblue on April 18, 2009 at 11:08 PM
Just wait until these early 20ish voters start working and get to participate in the Obama tax plan or who’s parents have to cut off cable tv because of the tax increases Obama’s going to implement.
And wait until they get to compete for jobs with the newly amnestisized 30 million illegal aliens who have voting rights and are now included in company affirmative action roles.
There will be a lot more people finding out just how conservative they are.
BowHuntingTexas on April 18, 2009 at 11:08 PM
Most people who are Pro-Life are not so simply because God said so. They see it as murder. Did your God tell you to protect the innocent?
Jesus said; “Whoever causes one of these little ones to sin, it would be better that a millstone was hung around his neck and be cast into the heart of the sea.”
What do you imagine he would think of the person who kills little ones?
If you want to be pro-choice go right ahead but only a delusional fool could ever claim that Jesus wouldn’t care.
Rocks on April 18, 2009 at 11:08 PM
Okay she didn’t write the first part of the above quote maybe the second (only cuz it so dumb)
CCRWM on April 18, 2009 at 11:09 PM
First, she didn’t write that…
There, fixed.
Spiritk9 on April 18, 2009 at 11:10 PM
I can’t believe no one is going for my tattoo contest idea.
boo hoo
Y-not on April 18, 2009 at 11:10 PM
her speech was so frickin vague
just flying rhetoric
pretty sunsets
eagles wings
snowy hills
imagery and high brow speech, nothing specific
blatantblue on April 18, 2009 at 11:10 PM
Oh, go back to your Teh Fred! bashing…
“McShamnesty”….*sigh*
You wonder why McCain lost?
JetBoy on April 18, 2009 at 11:10 PM
Solving the problem is complicated and highly politically incorrect. For starters though, it would be nice to have a government who would seal our borders.
Daemonocracy on April 18, 2009 at 11:11 PM
Agreed; however, I’m thinking the college vote was actually valuable to Obama – or at least the organization. Further, blue dog dems could fill this role of fiscal responsibility, if many youths have been indoctrinated from public school to embrace all things social of the left…
Upstater85 on April 18, 2009 at 11:11 PM
This should be demanded amnesty or not…
Upstater85 on April 18, 2009 at 11:13 PM
If by “organization” you mean kids willing to squat 20 to a flat to vote illegally in Ohio, then I agree with you.
Y-not on April 18, 2009 at 11:13 PM
But we do (and should) pass judgment about all sorts of behaviors–adultery, pedophilia, drug dealing, dishonesty, etc.
jazz_piano on April 18, 2009 at 11:13 PM
Because he was lame? Oh, wait, I shouldn’t say that… might cause him to lose out on life…
Upstater85 on April 18, 2009 at 11:14 PM
That’s some of what I mean ;)
Upstater85 on April 18, 2009 at 11:14 PM
It’s not that Republican values are so bad that we need to change them. It’s that the Republicans in office don’t practice these values.
XWing5 on April 18, 2009 at 11:14 PM
This is a prime example of what Meghan McCain is talking about — the polarization of the message.
“BABY KILLER!!!” to a moderate-liberal is about the same as “FASCIST CIVIL RIGHTS DENIER!!!!” to a moderate-conservative opposed to same-sex marriage.
A quick anecdote:
One thing I loved about Sarah Palin’s speech in Indiana this week is that it was positive, pro-life, and uplifting. It wasn’t about people murdering babies via abortion — it was about the beauty and joy of celebrating life. It was a twist on my old (nerdy) Spider-Man mantra of “with great power comes great responsibility,” and birthing children is one.
But if we continue to focus on the social wars in such demonizing terms (“BABY KILLER!” “FASCIST BODY CONTROLLER!”) we’ll never make headway. And meanwhile, our jobs and livelihoods are lost — not to mention credit destroyed — because we were so focused on the morality questions that come so easy to us.
I’m personally pro-choice. But that’s mostly due to my virtue by me being a man. I think women should settle this debate, since I’ll never experience having a child, nor would I want that responsibility. I want women to choose what they do, and — personally — I hope they choose life.
But let me re-underscore this: the social wars and the demonic behavior is exactly the Republicans’ PR problem, justified or not (and I think it’s not). Take a neutral stance on the social wars — espousing Federalism — and allow the Left to look like clows with their demands of civil rights and the nanny state. Stop walking into the landmines they plant; instead let them walk into their own landmines once they charge after you for being “silent.”
That’s my take.
lansing quaker on April 18, 2009 at 11:15 PM
um….
Rusty Shackleford on April 18, 2009 at 11:17 PM
Can we please all agree to just stop giving this attention wh&%$ the time of day. She says nothing worthwhile and is constantly being quoted. We are making her matter when she does not.
America1st on April 18, 2009 at 11:17 PM
The Republicans have a problem. If they follow McCain’s advice, and throw conservatives and religious people overboard, the only thing they will accomplish is the splintering of the party and the creation of a Third Party.
pearson on April 18, 2009 at 11:17 PM
I’m a male that happens to be pro-life even though I will never pop an embryo out… I have never used the term Baby Killer and have never heard a conservative use it in my presence. The only time I’ve heard the term used was when my left leaning Roman Catholic friend jokingly referred to a particular individual…
Your point is that this is somehow a PR question. How did that start?
Upstater85 on April 18, 2009 at 11:19 PM
Good God! It’s time conservatives start asking some serious questions of senator John McCain.
Hell , if it’s okay to tar Sarah Palin with the sins of a distant relative then it should be okay for conservatives to start asking John McCain if he agrees with the crap his daughter has been spewing for the past few months.My dad’s a maverick and I am a maverick? She says?
Seems to me like John McCain’s loving daughter is willing to do whatever it takes to make her father’s dream a reality; the total destruction of the conservative movement!
RMR on April 18, 2009 at 11:19 PM
No.
Because the far-Right was lame. And now, look who we have in the Oval Office with the thermostat cranked up.
JetBoy on April 18, 2009 at 11:20 PM
It’s not that Republican values are so bad that we need to change them. It’s that the Republicans in office don’t practice these values.
XWing5 on April 18, 2009 at 11:14 PM
carbon_footprint on April 18, 2009 at 11:20 PM
Reference my other comments here. I don’t want to reiterate, because it will be tragically tl;dr.
lansing quaker on April 18, 2009 at 11:20 PM
Again Sarah Palin? Sarah Palin who?
We should totally call out the honorable Macs
Upstater85 on April 18, 2009 at 11:21 PM
Spiritk9 on April 18, 2009 at 11:10 PM
Thanks…make lots of mistakes when on the laptop…
CCRWM on April 18, 2009 at 11:21 PM
I think women should settle this debate, since I’ll never experience having a child,
lansing quaker on April 18, 2009 at 11:15 PM
Just because one doesn’t actually give birth, doesn’t mean that men don’t have children. Just ask any dad.
PS if you loaned your gun to someone who then killed someone else with it, you’d probably feel just a little guilty. That is the mans role in abortion. Loan someone your gun for a little while, somebody else ends up dead.
OneEyedJack on April 18, 2009 at 11:21 PM
LOL, my daughter is in college and most of her friends who voted for McCain were threatened with cut off from parents because of the Obama tax increases. I know a young attorney who is singing a different tune after paying this year on 4/15 first time ever. They don’t like that very much.
msmveritas on April 18, 2009 at 11:21 PM
Do you really think that Mac wouldn’t have done some of these things that we so deplore? Yeah, he might not have shaken hands with Chavez or fellated the king of the camels; however, Mac is a big gov’t sol’ns guy…
Upstater85 on April 18, 2009 at 11:22 PM
eh, ignore that last p.s…. too much valu-rite.
sounded good when I thought it, though
OneEyedJack on April 18, 2009 at 11:23 PM
I’ve seen your other posts… but there are some PR things we will never be able to change… It get’s started because people like MegMac either dis our positions or “explain them” (as you claim)
Upstater85 on April 18, 2009 at 11:23 PM
If the youth of today have been indoctrinated so well, the USA as we know it is gone.
In 10 years we’ll all be living in government housing and working in government jobs with a glazing of freedom.
It’ll be bread and circuses – football and government housing.
Vote for me and I’ll make sure you get free cable !!!
BowHuntingTexas on April 18, 2009 at 11:23 PM
I dunno… sorry, AP, but I think you just need to get on the dhimmi blogs and leave us alone… ya know?
fabrexe on April 18, 2009 at 11:24 PM
When you’re right and most people think wrong, the answer is not to become more like the wrong people. You let the wrong people learn their hard lessons and then let them come back to where you always were.
We need not become more liberal or “moderate” or “progressive.” We need to hold fast to the values of Reagan conservatism and let the manchild-worshippers reap what they sow. Then they may come crawling back up the hill to capitalism, freedom, laissez-faire, independence, personal responsibility–all the things that, long ago, made America the best country in world history.
Crusty on April 18, 2009 at 11:26 PM
Do you think that lately the MSM bias has become so clear to many therefore the falling ratings and then that CNN reporter who has been suspended for her outlandish behavior on Wed’s Chi Tea party? How about the teabagging jokes on both CNN and MSNBC? Do you think maybe they are overreaching or pushing it to far now?
CCRWM on April 18, 2009 at 11:26 PM
That’s my fear… But I think the best defense that we have against that are, uh, social conservatives… I’m libertarian leaning and wouldn’t put myself in the MoralMajority; however, socons seem to be the only people that actually educate their children (at least in general)… This isn’t over yet, me thinks ;)
Upstater85 on April 18, 2009 at 11:27 PM
“There are those who think we can win the White House and Congress back by being ‘more’ conservative.”
I love to wear black.,,,there are those who think we can win by changing nothing at all about what our party has become,,, I have a tattoo
I think we’re seeing a war brewing,,I love punk rock. I love to wear black.,,,but it is not between us and Democrats,,,have lots of gay friends,,,It is not between us and liberals. It is between the future and the past.,,,I love to wear black,,,I have a tattoo,,,I love punk rock. I believe most people are ready to move on to that future,,,,Oh,,,I have lots of gay friends and I have a tattoo! I love to wear black.And yes, I am a Republican.”
God help us!
JellyToast on April 18, 2009 at 11:27 PM
Mac isn’t as “big government” as you might believe. Most importantly, he certainly wouldn’t have signed that porkulus bill.
I believe the far-Righties and most conservatives would have been pleasantly surprised by a President McCain.
But alas, we’ll never know.
JetBoy on April 18, 2009 at 11:28 PM
I’m not even going to bother reading the rest of the comments. Some think she’s right, some think she’s an idiot. Let’s see, running as a more conservative party won us the White House in 1980 through 1992, and the Congress in 1994. Nah, that will never work.
Buford Gooch on April 18, 2009 at 11:29 PM
What’s your point???
CCRWM on April 18, 2009 at 11:29 PM
I would also like to see a successful coalition of conservatives (broadly defined). But the problem with us pro-lifers is this: Once you’re convinced that a baby inside the womb is as human as a baby outside, abortion becomes a stark issue of most basic morality.
Most of us are also small gov’t, capitalist, pro-military types, but we are, first and foremost, pro-life.
jazz_piano on April 18, 2009 at 11:29 PM
… and how does she reconcile this with the Dems clinging to that which is even older — The New Deal that failed the first time it was tried, also The War on Poverty, still failing after 40 years.
AZfederalist on April 18, 2009 at 11:29 PM
Oh now I get it. We need to trash the conservatives in the party so we can attract more liberals, right? Didn’t we try that in 08?
Kjeil on April 18, 2009 at 11:29 PM
That would all make sense if the Republicans hadn’t won the White House over and over and Congress espousing those views.
When did they lose? When they let ethics go out the window and started spending money like a pimp with a week to live.
Rocks on April 18, 2009 at 11:30 PM
Bingo
pearson on April 18, 2009 at 11:32 PM
Again, why do we keep hearing from her. She only became a republican because her Dad won the republican nomination. If someone else had won it, she would not be a republican today.
Let’s move on to someone who has real solutions.
texasconserv on April 18, 2009 at 11:33 PM
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