Video: Palin chokes up talking about Trig’s birth
posted at 3:05 pm on April 17, 2009 by Allahpundit
Exceptionally sweet — which only makes the Great Trig Pregnancy Cover-up that much more nefarious. This clip will come back to haunt her when amateur obstetrician/Hardy Boy Andrew Sullivan finally blows the lid off the case.
Even CNN’s compelled to say that she “rocked the house” at last night’s pro-life fundraiser in Indiana. Conservatives4Palin has video of the entire speech; if you can’t spare the time, watch this clip and the quickie at David Brody’s site. I’m surprised that AOL is the only major media outlet (so far) to seize on her admission that she considered — fleetingly — aborting Trig when she first realized she was pregnant. Like Geraghty says, “Pro-lifers will love her all the more, because she contemplated what they see as a great evil, felt the temptation, and resisted it,” but the left will seize on the fact that, even if only for an instant, America’s favorite hockey mom was glad she had a choice. In fact, they’re seizing on it already.
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No sane obgyn would probably ever recommend getting in a car and driving 80 miles per hour to the hospital, either, but darn if it doesn’t happen everyday. Hospitals don’t just up and come to you, you know.
jimmy2shoes on April 17, 2009 at 4:41 PM
Good grief!! Get over it already!
Pro-life crowd can’t understand why she didn’t abort the baby now beating up on her for flying home after her water broke because it could have harmed the child.
//rolling eyes.
Oink on April 17, 2009 at 4:41 PM
Baloney.
strangelet on April 17, 2009 at 4:41 PM
My husband drove 90 MPH for 80 miles after my water broke. In hindsight it’s nothing I would recommend, but fear makes you do things.
Oink on April 17, 2009 at 4:42 PM
I will leave to your own judgment. I would ask you though, have you ever got the sense from me that my skin is thin? It’s not about me, just the principle.
Spirit of 1776 on April 17, 2009 at 4:42 PM
I’m cool with criticism. Don’t get me wrong.
I just don’t like when people attack one Sarah Palin post, then stay quiet when he posts a complimentary one.
blatantblue on April 17, 2009 at 4:43 PM
Thats funny. Thats exactly how i would have explained my time here.
ernesto on April 17, 2009 at 4:43 PM
Just let this go, what she did wasn’t that dangerous or stupid, there are many ways your water can break and it can be up to 48 hours before birth happens.
Let it rest.. there are many women who have done far worse things during pregnacy than flying on a plane.
Also most importantly eveything worked out just fine
clarifides on April 17, 2009 at 4:43 PM
Pastrami.
Y-not on April 17, 2009 at 4:43 PM
A huge point is being missed here.
Sarah was trying to empower women who believe that their difficult circumstances in the short term means that they should choose an abortion.
She was saying you are good enough, strong enough, talented enough, to get through the difficulties and be a good parent, and that the reward of a child’s love makes it all worthwhile. What a message!
By the way, Paglia’s next column is all but certain to be a “must read.”
Nat Hound on April 17, 2009 at 4:43 PM
Understandable. But you didn’t wait to see, you created a dilemma – which is, to be frank, a juvenile trick that people use to force credit for behavior. If people do leave a positive comment, then they were goaded. If they leave a negative one, it feeds the stereotype.
It negates an organic response.
Spirit of 1776 on April 17, 2009 at 4:45 PM
Ok….I will!
As long you admit that is why she cant release her med records.
;)
strangelet on April 17, 2009 at 4:45 PM
ProfessorMiao on April 17, 2009 at 4:45 PM
Hello go ask your dad about this-once the water breaks as long as labor has not started, you are okay for 24 hours,after that there is a risk of infection. Mine broke when I was 12 weeks along, they said I wouldnt carry. They tried to put me on bedrest, I went to Vegas instead… she is now nearly 19 years old.
canditaylor68 on April 17, 2009 at 4:45 PM
My wife was with her mother when her water broke. I drove 80 mph through marble sized hail and tornado warnings to get there. Foolish, I know, but hey, I wasn’t gonna miss it for the world.
jimmy2shoes on April 17, 2009 at 4:45 PM
No, but it is soft. And supple. And warm.
DUDE.
Well, for whatever it’s worth, I hope you do come back for the community. I saw RushBaby return yesterday. Maybe things are settling down now. Where are you normally hanging out, if I may ask?
MadisonConservative on April 17, 2009 at 4:46 PM
Well said. She is given her life example to show that she’s not been untouched by temptation and that persevering (in her case through faith) has lead to a much more rewarding outcome. Good comment.
Spirit of 1776 on April 17, 2009 at 4:46 PM
Newsflash! Her medical records aren’t anybody’s damned business.
jimmy2shoes on April 17, 2009 at 4:48 PM
You weren’t there, and you are being purposefully dense if you think the woman on that video would intentionally do something to hurt that child. The proof of your idiocy is right in front of you.
I swear, libs imagine everyone is as damaged as they are.
Nat Hound on April 17, 2009 at 4:48 PM
Completely correct.
That no one on this side of the political aisle knows a thing about physics? Obviously stereotyping is suddenly OK when Lefties do it.
That’s impressive.
Esthier on April 17, 2009 at 4:48 PM
I am pro-life by first, choice and by second, conviction.
If someone is pro-life, considers abortion and ultimately practices what she preaches that does NOT make the woman or Sarah Palin a hypocrite. What it does make her though is human, unlike the Fascist Obamatrons who only live en masse to serve the Messiah and implement his radical totalitarian/statist agenda.
For Obama his followers are masses and interest groups; for Sarah her followers are individuals endowed by the Creator with life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness who live their lives as human beings with the potential for human temptation and failing to interact with their convictions negatively and throw their faith for a loop from time to time.
That people of faith usually make the righteous decision is not a sign of weakness but instead the demonstration of the power of faith to impact the daily life of a family, community and a nation founded on the principle of ‘natural rights’.
technopeasant on April 17, 2009 at 4:48 PM
You and “that’s why Obama won’t release his birth certificate to the public!” people are two of a kind.
MadisonConservative on April 17, 2009 at 4:50 PM
I am not asserting that Trig isn’t Sarah Palin’s baby.
Don’t lump me in with Sully.
I am asserting that she concealed her pregnancy while considering termination, and then
let Jesus take the wheelput her preganacy in god’s hands after her water broke.And I am also asserting that is why she can’t release her med records.
strangelet on April 17, 2009 at 4:50 PM
Lol. Then full-body shudder. To your other question, if hang out means comment, if not here, then nowhere. I do pop in from time to time as evidenced by this thread :) and I try to drop a relevant (or not) comment in your GR posts. Mostly I just read the posts, skim the comments and roll on. It’s all good.
Spirit of 1776 on April 17, 2009 at 4:50 PM
i went through great pains to preface truth with “tiny grain”. please at least acknowledge that I already addressed the point you just tried to make by adding adjectives that spell out plainly it was not an even remotely true statement.
ernesto on April 17, 2009 at 4:51 PM
Do you do conspiracies much ??
clarifides on April 17, 2009 at 4:52 PM
Your water broke at 3 months and you went to vegas?
My god, no wonder you believe Palin’s story.
strangelet on April 17, 2009 at 4:54 PM
you are such a freaking dolt, it amazes me that your body actually learned how to breath other then your brain stem is indeed the functioning unit for your ignorance.
FYI… you have heard of that laws concerning medical records. You know the ones. Because your “Daddy” had anyone who came in to see him sign them. The HIPA Laws!
So stop where you are, think and then go.. DUH!
Also, there is nothing that shows a woman who is pregnant or whom is in labor to not fly! I want you to talk to your “Daddy” and find me a link that proves that there are some type of restrictions on flight… other then it is utterly uncomfortable to fly that pregnant!
upinak on April 17, 2009 at 4:54 PM
Sully’s lunacy makes more sense than this. If you can, think through the logic of what you’re saying and then walk back from the brink.
Nat Hound on April 17, 2009 at 4:55 PM
Was that a black helicopter? I think they’re coming for you.
PS. Don’t. Drink. THE WATER.
TheUnrepentantGeek on April 17, 2009 at 4:55 PM
Sure, so long as you’ll admit Obama won’t release his birth certificate because it’ll show he isn’t qualified to be president.
You know, one unsubstantiated theory for another…
Esthier on April 17, 2009 at 5:00 PM
She concealed her pregnancy before she knew any test results,its a private matter between husband and wife AND I can tell you are a young one,who has never had to deal with the good ol boys club that believes that women are the weaker sex because they have hormones and miss a lot of work due to pregnancy-its easy for you to compete NOW-but those that paved the way for you had to make sacrifices ya know.
Foa a split second in a moment of weakness,then her faith took over-Ive been there I know what this is.The docs recommended that I abort my last child-I was exposed to fifths disease in the pregnancy-my husband was sent to Korea for a year just 2 days after I found out I was pregnant.I was alone with 3 young children ages 5 and under. I KNOW THIS PLACE THAT PALIN SPEAKS OF.
Palin knows Jesus carried her for the entire pregnancy-her faith is not to be judged by you or anyone else.
What the hell business is it of yours or anyone elses when it comes to what she does with her body-isnt that the lib mantra-ITS “MY” BODY… Dont be a Hypocrite.
canditaylor68 on April 17, 2009 at 5:01 PM
smile
strangelet on April 17, 2009 at 5:01 PM
Except that I play DnD with one. She’s a good GM too.
So, wrong about darn near everything then. Impressive.
TheUnrepentantGeek on April 17, 2009 at 5:01 PM
can’t answer my question Strange?
How about we go to your cult leader.. Andy Sully and ask him for his medical records concerning how he became HIV positive.. or does he have full blown AIDS now?
But HIPA won’t let me look!
upinak on April 17, 2009 at 5:03 PM
Eh “what in the bleep do we know” right?
canditaylor68 on April 17, 2009 at 5:05 PM
You’re quite right. I was thinking Alan Colmes.
On the basis of zero evidence, and in complete contradiction to what she says in that speech.
She was leaking amniotic fluid; that is not the same thing as having her water break. She continued to travel in consultation with her doctor.
Again on the basis of no evidence and in contradiction to the facts. She has released far more medical information than Obama did. What conspiracy do you think explains HIS reluctance to release HIS medical records? I assert that it’s because he still does coke. Don’t bother me with any ‘facts’.
Moron.
ProfessorMiao on April 17, 2009 at 5:06 PM
If only because you’ve been fair in the past, but it’s not as though physics is a profession that has even been political.
Lawyers, sure. Teachers, sure. But scientists are generally above that, as they need to be.
Forgive me for being a little sensitive, but this is just all too common. I dealt with it enough in high school and college.
Esthier on April 17, 2009 at 5:07 PM
You are missing a major point in all of this. This wasn’t her first pregnacy nor her second even. She knew what to expect. If you are intimating that she hoped to lose the baby without having an actual abortion, the greater risk was in losing her own life with the scenario you have come up with.
clarifides on April 17, 2009 at 5:09 PM
Yes, experience seems to calm people. When my brother was born, it was my mother’s second pregnancy and my father’s fourth child. Hurricane Alicia had wrecked our power, so everyone was having a barbecue. When my mother’s water broke, my dad finished his steak before leaving, and he was correct. My brother was born several hours later in a hospital without A/C in the middle of August.
Good point. Apparently he thinks she was suicidal too.
Esthier on April 17, 2009 at 5:11 PM
What is more important in the enforcement of the obligations of the Constitution:
Figuring out when a woman’s water broke or figuring out whether a Presidential candidate is a ‘natural-born’ citizen?
technopeasant on April 17, 2009 at 5:12 PM
That, my friends, is called “genuineness”. That’s why the Left and their allies on, ahem, our side are scared of her.
SouthernGent on April 17, 2009 at 5:19 PM
Eathier.. strange is female and I doubt has ever had a baby.
upinak on April 17, 2009 at 5:21 PM
Are people still on about the water breaking/plane ride contoversy? Oh please, how many women do these people know? I worked for a veterinarian who is much like the spirit Sarah Palin is. Owns her own business, horse jumper, stunt pilot etc. She gave birth to her second child standing up and was at her aerobics class the next day. Yes, I find that a little freaky, but she did it.
Would your father greet his patient in active labour at the hospital and tell her to get back in her car and drive to a different hospital miles away because they didn’t have a bed for her? Probably not, but that’s what happens in Canada, to my sister actually. I’ve had three kids born in Canada and I bet your dad wouldn’t discharge any of them prematurely because there were 3 women in active labour in the father’s lounge, but that’s what happened to me. I am sure that the care Palin received before flight and after flight was superior to what Canada calls obstetrical care. I bet if Canadian woman had a choice and realized the difference in quality of care, (I likened the birth of my U.S. born fourth child to a 4 star hotel stay) they’d all hop on planes to come here when their water broke.
caygeon on April 17, 2009 at 5:23 PM
She, sorry. I tend to default to “he” since we don’t have a gender neutral word.
Esthier on April 17, 2009 at 5:24 PM
Well then, keep up the good work padding my GR comments sections so it looks like I know what I’m talking about.
MadisonConservative on April 17, 2009 at 5:25 PM
Understandable. But I still do not think she has had a child. You can just tell.
upinak on April 17, 2009 at 5:26 PM
I’m afraid looking that way is damned near impossible
:p
:p
blatantblue on April 17, 2009 at 5:26 PM
When both are dependent on information that is only supposed to be supplied to people other than you, and you claim the fact that you have not been supplied information is evidence, neither.
MadisonConservative on April 17, 2009 at 5:27 PM
You shut your mouth or I’ll sign you up on a gay personals site and message Andrew Sullivan.
MadisonConservative on April 17, 2009 at 5:28 PM
eh
I’d rather meet strangers at Omegle.com
blatantblue on April 17, 2009 at 5:29 PM
Ugh, right when you think you’re done with her she sucks you right back in. Looks like I’ll be sending a few dollars Sarah PAC’s way.
Punchenko on April 17, 2009 at 5:30 PM
Then again, MadCon, I’m not the one writing at HA.
So Im in no position to speak :p
IF only they had a “Resident Hottie” position.
blatantblue on April 17, 2009 at 5:31 PM
Awesome news.
carbon_footprint on April 17, 2009 at 5:32 PM
I know this was touched on earlier but, as someone who’s been in the Ob/Gyn field for 20 years now, it does seem a bit unusual that Sarah boarded a plane after her water broke. That said, I have found that trying to second guess another provider’s medical decision making without talking to him/her or having the chart in front of me is problematic, at best. Her biggest risks were infection and/or onset of labor so a scenario where she were put on the plane loaded up with antibiotics after an NST/ultrasound to make sure baby’s o.k. (no cord drop, etc.) is certainly possible. In the end, Trig was absolutely fine so micromanaging her pregnancy postpartum is a silly exercise.
inmypajamas on April 17, 2009 at 5:34 PM
Saltysam on April 17, 2009 at 5:37 PM
How dare you! How dare you confuse ‘stranglet’ with common sense. The gull of some people!
s/
PappaMac on April 17, 2009 at 5:38 PM
Back in Ohio I belonged to a group of “coffee moms” that met to shoot the poop on Friday mornings. We all had just one thing in common, a child with DS. We choked up the same way when we spoke about the moment we realized our baby was much more than what we had assumed. It is a moment of learning that far outstretches something you commit years to learning and it instantly becomes the most massive a-ha moment that seems to seep so deeply into your soul. No one can ever understand what it’s like, unless it has happened to you.
It is those moments during Sarah’s speeches or comments that take my breath away with mutual understanding. No person can ever, ever give a more real or raw insight to their persona than that.
And that is exactly why we have people deperately trying to dissmiss Sarah Palin, because she is so real.
caygeon on April 17, 2009 at 5:38 PM
carbon_footprint on April 17, 2009 at 5:32 PM
Yo cf…
between that statement to the Dept of the Interior the other day,
and this speech to the Pro Life crowd (first trip outside Alaska, one day after tax day and the TEA parties)…
I’m inclined to believe that the press will some day look back and realize that they bit off more than they could chew.
Saltysam on April 17, 2009 at 5:41 PM
I’m not reading all these posts. Has anyone accused her of a fake “choke up” yet?
LtE126 on April 17, 2009 at 5:41 PM
**gasps**
A politician being real and honest.
Well we just can’t have that.
Hog Wild on April 17, 2009 at 5:44 PM
I am NOT saying she tried to deliberately loose the baby.
Actually, I don’t think she could have gone through with an abortion either.
I’m saying she just put it in gods hands and went on with her business, perhaps for a lot of the reasons other ppl that have had children bring up.
But I’m also saying, like inmypajamas, Palin just didnt realize how fierce the media scrutiny was going to be, and that a lot of people would question her actions.
So she can’t ever release the med reports.
Which might be a problem if she tries to run again.
Do you think Sully will just forget?
strangelet on April 17, 2009 at 5:45 PM
Even if someone did, for me it’s like a tree that falls in the forest and I’m not there to hear it.
Do what I do.
Look at the name of the commenter. If it’s ________ (fill in the blank), simply do not read it.
Saltysam on April 17, 2009 at 5:47 PM
AllahP may speak truer than he knows.
What if…Palin discussed termination with her ob in the medical reports?
strangelet on April 17, 2009 at 5:49 PM
Would you guyz forgive her?
strangelet on April 17, 2009 at 5:50 PM
I’ll never forget that Obama didn’t release his medical records because he still takes cocaine.
ProfessorMiao on April 17, 2009 at 5:51 PM
Like we really care about the deranged. The Birth Certificate people won’t forget either, and yet, no one cares.
The facts are that Palin released more medical information than Obama did, making this a typical double standard. The facts are also that her doctor knew about her flight and her speech and never objected.
Just because your dad has a job, it doesn’t make you an expert, but considering Hillary was the “experienced” Democrat running, I understand your confusion.
Esthier on April 17, 2009 at 5:51 PM
Now I’m not even convinced you’re a woman. What makes you think something like that would even be in her medical records? Are you completely ignorant as to want an OBGYN office is like?
Esthier on April 17, 2009 at 5:53 PM
Doctors are OBLIGATED to mention termination and discuss it after all positive tests. Some doctors go on to harange patients over and over again even after affirming they would not terminate. It will be in her file, it’s there to cover the doctors arse in case of a “wrongful birth” lawsuit.
caygeon on April 17, 2009 at 5:56 PM
Well, because of HIPAA privacy rules, no one can have access to Sarah’s medical records without her written permission. So you can speculate to your little obsessive heart’s content, but you’ll never know.
BTW, I never suggested that Sarah’s actions could be held suspect as no rational person would dig, dig, dig into the pregnancy records of a successful pregnancy and delivery.
inmypajamas on April 17, 2009 at 5:59 PM
Certainly. They go over everything, covering every option, complete with forms to fill out, detailing that the doctor explained all her options and that she understands what they are, etc…
But there’s no reason to believe it’s got Sarah Palin on record saying, “yeah, maybe I’ll want one of those; I just want to wait and see if God’ll kill my child first,” or anything even close to that.
Short of Palin actually requesting one and setting up an appointment, there won’t be anything to indicate she didn’t want her baby, as that’s not medically relevant.
Esthier on April 17, 2009 at 6:02 PM
strangelet on April 17, 2009 at 5:49 PM
Why is there a law that holds that any conversation between a doctor and his patient and a lawyer and his clinet is strictly confidential?
So that people like you don’t take things out of context, focus in one isolated or misconstrued statement and make a mountain out of a molehill.
For people who tout themselves as intellectuals, you sure are unaware that many intellectuals in such settings discuss their options in this manner in terms of an intellectual exercise and not in terms of whether they would take that position or not.
However, for you internet trolls to admit that Sarah Palin engaged in this exercise would force you to admit that Sarah is indeed an intellectual which would undermine the entire Axelrod-MSM template to dismiss her as a dumb moron who is a fanatical religious wacko.
Admit it trolls, Sarah is much to smart for you and fortunately for conservatives she is also too much for Obama to handle as well.
technopeasant on April 17, 2009 at 6:02 PM
Did Crapulus finally get banned? I see we switched one for another.
HornetSting on April 17, 2009 at 6:05 PM
This is why the Palin bashers do not get me worked up in the least. I know they see what we see, and their ire is what gives me solace.
Saltysam on April 17, 2009 at 6:08 PM
strangelet doesn’t understand that Alaskans don’t think getting on a plane to fly somewhere is a big deal, because to them, flying is about the same as driving is to most of us. Wrapping your brain around the sheer immensity of the place is tough.
That’s if you want to understand. Some people don’t want to understand.
The Monster on April 17, 2009 at 6:09 PM
Afternoon talk-show host for stay at home moms–Yes.
President of the United States dealing with complicated foreign and domestic matters — No.
dcwvu on April 17, 2009 at 6:10 PM
Thank you for the sexist remarks and insult to those that choose to stay at home to take care of their family. Now, piss off.
HornetSting on April 17, 2009 at 6:12 PM
Saltysam on April 17, 2009 at 6:06 PM
As much as I have been criticized in the past for talking matchups (because of Obama gaining the nomination and not Hillary Clinton)I am certain that Obama will run for re-election in 2012. What the GOP must ask itself who gives the party the best chance to take Obama down: someone who is not prepared to take the fight to Obama bacause of white guilt or fear of offending the Beltway elite or his #1 nemesis who knows how to get under his skin and completely throw the Messiah off his game?
The answer is obvious if you want to win. Of course if you want to lose, you go with the former.
What it comes down to is: “How badly do you want to take down Obama?”
technopeasant on April 17, 2009 at 6:14 PM
…stay at home moms…
dcwvu on April 17, 2009 at 6:10 PM
What do you do for a living?
Saltysam on April 17, 2009 at 6:15 PM
Well, walk and chew gum man doesn’t seem to be up to task of matters both domestic and foreign. Good thing his friend Oprah can set him up with an afternoon gig. (Maybe a stars and their pets type show). Hopefully his ratings won’t tank as quick as they are now.
See, I’m not sexist.
caygeon on April 17, 2009 at 6:19 PM
She doesn’t have to release her medical records–she’s not running for VP anymore nor is she occupying the VP/POTUS slot now.
Where are NObama’s and Biden’s medical records?
Where are Bill Clinton’s?
We’re still waiting on those…
Do you ever have an argument that’s valid?
Jenfidel on April 17, 2009 at 6:21 PM
technopeasant on April 17, 2009 at 6:14 PM
You raise a sharp point.
It was clear as glass that the Obama campaign was very sensitive not to allow any perceptions that there were any direct challenges between the VP nominee of the GOP and the Presidential candidate for the Dems.
I think there is still a standing order not to look her directly in the eyes.
Saltysam on April 17, 2009 at 6:22 PM
Apparently, if you have the money, this isn’t _that_ uncommon. If you watch “An Evening with Kevin Smith” (I think it’s the second one actually), he specifically describes how he flew his wife from California to New Jersey _with_her_water_breaking_ simply so that his daughter would be born in New Jersey.
Theophile on April 17, 2009 at 6:23 PM
If you had more comments like this one and quit with the intelligence innuendos, there might be a lot more substantive dialog here with you guys.
hawkdriver on April 17, 2009 at 6:23 PM
You’re not given to holding your breath, I know, but I suppose it was worth saying.
Saltysam on April 17, 2009 at 6:29 PM
given the constraints you’ve placed on the term ‘intellectual’ you make a decent enough argument. and in the interests of being ‘intellectual’ i too often make points and propose analyses that i may not espouse given further contemplation. however, you seem to have made a bit of a stretch by allowing for the single action of having contemplated 2 options a lone justification for labeling someone an intellectual. For the sake of your argument you just barely skirt by, but i do not see the term in quite the same light.
ernesto on April 17, 2009 at 6:30 PM
i’ll get her cheered up sooner or later.
ernesto on April 17, 2009 at 6:31 PM
I know what kind of a Christian Sarah is and what she thinks of unborn life in the womb and she would NOT discuss termination with her doctor, her husband or even in prayer to her Lord.
She believes in her heart and soul that every life is precious, even a life in the womb.
I believe she talked about her thought and prayer processes to accept the fact of Trig’s arrival for the benefit of any women listening to this speech who do not think about the precious life they’re about to abort but just go ahead and have an abortion because the baby’s a “problem.”
As a woman and a human being, I was stunned by her honesty and openness in this speech.
She made herself very open and vulnerable to infanticide-loving haters like “strangelet” by doing so but felt it was worth it to state publicly that every unborn baby is precious and that even when there are multiple factors that will make the mother’s life more “difficult” when the baby’s born, abortion is never the answer.
Jenfidel on April 17, 2009 at 6:33 PM
If you’ll recall from the speech, Trig was over 5 weeks early.
Sometimes even when a mother’s water “breaks,” it still isn’t a definitive sign that the baby is ready to be born.
Secondly, S.P. was determined that Trig be born in Alaska, not Texas (which is where she was at the time…).
Personally, I would prefer that Trig had been born in TX, but then I’m a Texan and not the Governor of Alaska.
Omniscient OB/GYNs like your dad notwithstanding, not so long ago, women gave birth without the benefit of baby docs and even did so…AT HOME.
Fancy that!
The miracle of birth can take place anywhere, anytime and without OB/GYNs and has done so for thousands of years or none of us would be here–fancy that!
Jenfidel on April 17, 2009 at 6:38 PM
What if you turned out to be an old white guy? Would your guyz ever forgive you?
littleguy on April 17, 2009 at 6:40 PM
Is our children learning?
She loosed the baby from the constraints of the umbilical cord after his birth, and she did not deliberately try to lose (or loose) the baby previous to that.
Spirit of 1776 on April 17, 2009 at 6:43 PM
It would be none of my business honestly.
terryannonline on April 17, 2009 at 6:44 PM
Yeah Dammit, we made you a Conservative, right?
hawkdriver on April 17, 2009 at 6:48 PM
Exactly.
A person that is running for the second highest office in the land doesn’t get to say none of your bidness, step off, without a ton of blowback.
I am just hypothesizing about why she didnt just throw the records in Sully’s face when he started this nonsense.
It seems like it would have been easier.
And I think that is likely true about planes being cars in Alaska.
My argument is that no obgyn would have advised her NOT to go to the hospital when her water broke. Litigation for one thing.
And it is the perception of Palin NOT going to the hospital that would hurt her public persona, even though she probably flew up to Alaska for the reasons other ppl have brought up.
It seems like Palin didnt really understand what media scrutiny in the 21st century would be like.
Thank you for your response Jenfidel.
You answered my question clearly and succinctly.
strangelet on April 17, 2009 at 6:49 PM
Nope. :-)
Libertarian at best. But really im not an ideological guy. Even after the rally.
ernesto on April 17, 2009 at 6:53 PM
You haven’t ever known that you had the upper hand in an argument and let the person run with until the rope jerked tight on them?
And why give them the satisfaction when “No One” else shows theirs. As I recall, Bill Clinton and Obama both didn’t show theirs.
Why is her situation any different?
hawkdriver on April 17, 2009 at 6:55 PM
Damn, we suck again.
hawkdriver on April 17, 2009 at 6:56 PM
strangelet, you are a deeply flawed and fundamentally dishonest person: certainly not worth arguing with
You’re also Not Worth the Time because like all trolls here you’re totally predictable–a corrupted echo chamber, with nearly every note discordant.
Reading your crap is like listening to fingernails on a blackboard while chewing tin foil
Go back to Kos ( the site or the island )
Janos Hunyadi on April 17, 2009 at 6:56 PM
I guess you don’t see any colors other than black or white.
radiofreevillage on April 17, 2009 at 6:57 PM
I usually avoid Sarah threads (an I’m a supporter) but I’m an OB, a “sane one” and in certain circumstances I’ve put women whos “water has broke” on a helicopter for transfer to a higher level facility, and yes – it can be 24 hours or more between the water breaking and labor actually starting.
(leaving thread)
Marcus on April 17, 2009 at 6:59 PM
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