DHS ignored civil-liberties lawyers’ warnings on report; Update: Senators demand data, explanation
The DHS pushed its report out on right-wingers in one hell of a hurry, according to the AP. Internal reviews of the document showed concerns over potential civil-liberties violations before its publication, but DHS ignored them in order to quickly make the document public. What was the rush?
Civil liberties officials at the Homeland Security Department flagged language in a controversial report on right-wing extremists, but the agency issued the report anyway. …
Homeland Security spokeswoman Amy Kudwa said the report was issued before officials resolved problems raised by the agency’s civil rights division about analysts’ definition of right-wing extremism.
In a footnote in the report, right-wing extremism was defined as hate-motivated groups and movements, such as hatred of certain religions, racial or ethnic groups. It went on to say, “It may include groups and individuals that are dedicated to a single issue, such as opposition to abortion or immigration.”
This answers the rather absurd meme that has popped up on liberal blogs, that the Bush administration is responsible for this report. First, while the Bush administration might have wanted an assessment of right-wing extremist threats, it didn’t necessarily want one that painted returning veterans and conservative thought on abortion, illegal immigration, and federalism as extremist threats, nor did it want a threat assessment that couldn’t find a threat and had no data on actual, specific groups. Secondly, and most obviously, this report was dated April 7, 2009, almost 3 months after Bush left office.
Just when does the new administration take responsibility for reports they release? 2013? For people who thought Bush was such a dunce, they seem to give him remarkable powers to control government months after he’s retired to Crawford.
Now we see that this wasn’t just left lying around from the Bush administration. In fact, it was such a rush job that Janet Napolitano couldn’t wait to resolve the obvious civil-liberty concerns raised by her own lawyers before shoving it out the door. Napolitano would later have to backtrack on the exact same language flagged by the attorneys by claiming that she didn’t specifically approve the report issued by her office and that she would have changed the language in hindsight. She had the opportunity to fix it before its release, but the completely threadbare report was deemed such a high priority that it went out anyway.
Now, what could have triggered that? Anyone know of events occurring just after April 7, 2009, that such an assessment could have painted as radical, extremist, and threats to national security? Hmmm.
The Wall Street Journal reports that the FBI has tracked a few veterans for extremist activity, but because they joined extremist groups, not because they’re veterans:
Michael Ward, FBI deputy assistant director for counterterrorism, said in an interview Thursday that the portion of the operation focusing on the military related only to veterans who draw the attention of Defense Department officials for joining white-supremacist or other extremist groups.
“We’re not doing an investigation into the military, we’re not looking at former military members,” he said. “It would have to be something they were concerned about, or someone they’re concerned is involved” with extremist groups.
That’s the way it’s supposed to work — and that’s the way it did work in the Bush administration, whose assessment of left-wing extremists focused on groups with histories of violent actions and on actual data showing threats.
Update: Via Michelle, Senators Coburn, Brownback, DeMint, Burr, Murkowski, Inhofe, and Vitter sent the following letter to DHS Secretary Napolitano yesterday concerning the DHS report:
April 16, 2009
The Honorable Janet Napolitano
Secretary
The Department of Homeland Security
310 7th street, S.W.
Washington, DC 20528-0150
VIA FASCMILLE
Dear Secretary Napolitano,
We write today concerning the release of the Department of Homeland Security (DHS) report titled “Rightwing Extremism: Current Economic and Political Climate Fueling Resurgence in Radicalization and Recruitment” prepared by the Extremism and Radicalization Branch, of the Homeland Environment Threat Analysis Division.
While we agree that we must fight extremists who are both foreign and domestic we are troubled by some of the statements your department included as fact in the report titled above, without listing any statistical data to back up such claims.
First, your report states that “Returning veterans possess combat skills and experience that are attractive to rightwing extremists…” without listing any data to support such a vile claim against our nation’s veterans.
Second, the report states that the millions of Americans who believe in the Second Amendment are a potential threat to our national security. Why? Do you have statistics to prove that law-abiding Americans who purchase a legal product are being recruited by so-called hate groups?
Thirdly, the report states that those that believe in issues such as pro-life legislation, limited government, and legal versus illegal immigration are potential terrorist threats. We can assure you that these beliefs are held by citizens of all races, party affiliation, male and female, and should not be listed as a factor in determining potential terror threats. A better word usage would be to describe them as practicing their First Amendment rights.
Also, you list those that bemoan the decline of U.S. stature and the loss of U.S. manufacturing capability to China and India as being potential rightwing extremists. We would suggest that the millions of Americans who have lost their jobs in the manufacturing industry to foreign countries are not potential terror threats, but rather honest Americans worried about feeding their families and earning a paycheck.
In closing, we support the mission of DHS in protecting our country from terror attacks and are proud of the many DHS employees who make this possible in conjunction with our state and local law enforcement. We ask that DHS not use this report as a basis to unfairly target millions of Americans because of their beliefs and the rights afforded to them in the Constitution. We also ask that you provide us with the data that support the unfair claims listed in the report titled above and to present us with the matrix system used in collecting and analyzing this data?
Finally, we look forward to your prompt reply and we offer our assistance to DHS in our shared effort to fight terrorism both home and abroad by using data that is accurate and independent of political persuasion.
Blowback
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Profiling!
Disturb the Universe on April 17, 2009 at 10:59 AM
1984!
canopfor on April 17, 2009 at 11:00 AM
the Obama Administration:
Classify Military Veterans and “Right wingers” with the Terrorist label
but we can not classify the 9/11 terrorist as “terrorist” or any other Jihadist minded nutjobs.
No longer is it the “War on Terror”, however domestically Obama is all for a “War on Terror”.
If the GOP can not exploit this for all its worth, we are doomed.
jp on April 17, 2009 at 11:01 AM
Where’s the
fireTea Party?capitalist piglet on April 17, 2009 at 11:01 AM
But … but…
In Socialist Amerika…
You do not join Extremist groups… Extremist groups become you!
Romeo13 on April 17, 2009 at 11:02 AM
Behave cons.
getalife on April 17, 2009 at 11:02 AM
The adults are in charge.
Joe Caps on April 17, 2009 at 11:02 AM
White Supremacist Recruitment of Military Personnel since 9/11 – FBI, July 7, 2008
Athough individuals with military backgrounds constitute a small percentage of white supremacist extremists, they frequently occupy leadership roles within extremist groups and their involvement has the potential to reinvigorate an extremist movement suffering from loss of leadership and in-fighting during the post-9/11 period.
sesquipedalian on April 17, 2009 at 11:03 AM
SUE!
sargentj on April 17, 2009 at 11:03 AM
This just proves this Administration is packed full of hubris ideologs that are only thinking about their ideology and not the ramifications of them.
http://franklinslocke.blogspot.com/
franklinslocke on April 17, 2009 at 11:03 AM
I question the timing…but I always did. It reads like it was slapped together by the new DHS poli-hacks in about 3 days. Easy to write stuff like this when you don’t have to worry about actual facts or any specifics.
AUINSC on April 17, 2009 at 11:04 AM
She also couldn’t wait for Janeane Garofalo to add her 2 cents about “the limbic brain.” One hopes the report will be revised accordingly.
misslizzi on April 17, 2009 at 11:05 AM
Lets see,Ayers is a friend of the Left,as well as
Obama’s friend,yet,the Libtards are on a RightWing
Witch Hunt!
And,as I said before,Rahm Manuel is very close to
Obama,yet he wished Republicans dead,as he’s stabbing
a steak!
Surreal!!
canopfor on April 17, 2009 at 11:05 AM
And here I was thinking the Rodham-Clinton’s hated the ‘Vast Right Wing’. Looks like the Caliph and his simpering sycophants are diligently working to tear this country apart.
SeniorD on April 17, 2009 at 11:06 AM
They do not want another FBI building blown up.
Or more cops killed over a dog pissing.
Or abortion clinics or Olympic bombings.
Our troops are trained about RW extremists and w wanted this report too.
Act right cons.
Don’t start none and there will not be none.
getalife on April 17, 2009 at 11:06 AM
Savage sues Napolitano for targeting vets
By Bob Unruh
© 2009 WorldNetDaily
Radio talk show host Michael Savage has teamed up with the Thomas More Law Center of Ann Arbor, Mich., to file a lawsuit against Department of Homeland Security Secretary Janet Napolitano. The suit is brought under the First and Fifth Amendments.
Link: http://www.worldnetdaily.com/index.php?fa=PAGE.view&pageId=95244
petefrt on April 17, 2009 at 11:07 AM
I guess profiling works afterall. .
moxie_neanderthal on April 17, 2009 at 11:07 AM
Key words: small percentage
misslizzi on April 17, 2009 at 11:07 AM
I had made it almost the entire day Wednesday without hearing serious spin from the media about the Tea Parties when I heard an AP radio news segment on the parties, followed by a statement from Obama about how he was going to make the tax code simpler, and ease the tax burden on the middle class, then they followed up with some clown who said the Tea Parties were a predictable ‘uprising of radicals’ and quoted portions of this DHS document.
It’s amazing how profiling ‘middle Eastern types’ after 9/11 was off limits, but targeting a huge portion of the public is not.
cntrlfrk on April 17, 2009 at 11:08 AM
that’s it?!? Where’s the meme about Obama saving the economy? Where’s the part about how conservatives are pathetic losers? Where’s the part about how tea party protests do nothing? Where’s the part about how “we won”?
You’re losing your touch, darling.
mjk on April 17, 2009 at 11:09 AM
Another amusing aspect of this whole thing….
They are, through their actions, creating a “Vast Right Wing Conspiricy”….
And creating “Right Wing Extremists”…
by creaing this hostile atmosphere… by calling them enemies…
Which is the exact thing they accused Bush of doing with Islamic terrorists…
Romeo13 on April 17, 2009 at 11:09 AM
Perhaps Janet wanted to shove the thing out the door so she could acknowledge the ‘open secret’ of her homosexuality. Too bad Janet Reno and Donna Shalala beat her to it.
SeniorD on April 17, 2009 at 11:09 AM
Start none and there will be none.
Your double negatives = a positive.
In other words, you were telling cons to start trouble.
Disturb the Universe on April 17, 2009 at 11:10 AM
It’s already filed. Michael Savage is one plaintiff. There’s a Right To Life organizer and a military guy I think as co-plaintiffs. I’ll try to find the Savage page and post a link.
hawkdriver on April 17, 2009 at 11:10 AM
DHSmas
Speakup on April 17, 2009 at 11:10 AM
Thats a real difference from saying that our returning veterans are psychologically deranged and subject to being brainwashed by fanatics…
canditaylor68 on April 17, 2009 at 11:11 AM
yes, Ed…they deliberately put this thing together in the most offensive language possible and “leaked” it for public consumption prior to the show of force and resistance on the Tax Day Tea Party events….its sole purpose is to intimidate ordinary folk from becoming openly political…and to choreograph an msm news cycle of Right Wing bashing/Tax protests, IMHO. This WH tries to stay ahead of the curve on their critics and they’re gettin’ downright ugly about it.
RepubChica on April 17, 2009 at 11:11 AM
sesquipedalian on April 17, 2009 at 11:03 AM
Which justifies tracking those ex-military who have joined already known terrorist groups.
It doesn’t justify the tarring all ex-military as being fodder for these groups.
YOu would know this if you weren’t so desperate to find a way to excuse Obama again.
MarkTheGreat on April 17, 2009 at 11:11 AM
Disturb the Universe on April 17, 2009 at 11:10 AM
You left out the word Don’t silly.
getalife on April 17, 2009 at 11:12 AM
I have no doubt that getaclue actually believes that anyone who opposes abortion would blow up clinics if given the chance.
MarkTheGreat on April 17, 2009 at 11:13 AM
hawkdriver on April 17, 2009 at 11:10 AM
I read a vet post the miltary trains against RW extremists.
True or false?
getalife on April 17, 2009 at 11:13 AM
ixnay on the criticizing of you-know-who.
jacrews on April 17, 2009 at 11:14 AM
You don’t find it remarkable that Bill Ayers is the current presidents mentor and DHS is worried about ex-military types or others who proclaim all life is precious?
More people have been killed or wounded by the Weather Underground than by Pro-lifers.
hawkdriver on April 17, 2009 at 11:14 AM
And an even smaller percentage of “those with a military background”.
MarkTheGreat on April 17, 2009 at 11:14 AM
Post the comment.
hawkdriver on April 17, 2009 at 11:14 AM
Hey, did anyone catch Michael Savage yesterday regarding a lawsuit he has filed?
I caught the tail end of it.
From what I understand he actually filed a lawsuit concerning the DHS assessment.
I only listen to Savage during those tortuously long Levin commercial breaks.
carbon_footprint on April 17, 2009 at 11:14 AM
YOU GO SAVAGE!!! I <3 Savage!
deidre on April 17, 2009 at 11:15 AM
Indeed. We have always been at war with Eastasia.
connertown on April 17, 2009 at 11:15 AM
No , not all cons are RW extremists.
The key word is extremists or domestic terrorists, if you will.
getalife on April 17, 2009 at 11:16 AM
Good Morning Extremists!
Knucklehead on April 17, 2009 at 11:16 AM
Michael Savage lawsuit.
hawkdriver on April 17, 2009 at 11:16 AM
How much longer will the general citizenry accept the “we’re just cleaning up Bush’s evil mess” meme?
Browncoatone on April 17, 2009 at 11:17 AM
Maybe someone should tell the O-ministration to “behave” and stop O-mitting their resposibility for their policies, appointments and reports.
clnurnberg on April 17, 2009 at 11:17 AM
I find it shocking that they’d be in a hurry to send this 9 pages of drivel out to local law enforcement, anyway. How many of the nation’s state troopers and sheriffs would BE the Right Wing Extremists this document warns of?
Further, there’s no immediate or impending threat outlined in these documents. At best, this document MIGHT help you get inside the mind of someone who’s commiting a crime. But it doesn’t describe any KNOWN criminals. At least the Lefty report was able to tie specific types of actions to specific groups. But to say Action X could mean the Suspect Y belongs to a secret undiscovered Group Z? What practical use is that?
hawksruleva on April 17, 2009 at 11:18 AM
According to your idol, only those conservatives who are opposed to abortion, or who think govt has grown to large are extremist.
MarkTheGreat on April 17, 2009 at 11:18 AM
As Judge Napolitano said this morning on FNC, now that Homeland Security has us profiled, they can zero in on us under wiretapping, emailing, etc. provisions of the Patriot Act.
This is as serious as a heart attack. So grave that no apology, no apology is enough to cure it. To keep his administration from being contaminated, Obama must replace Napolitano immediately, direct the report be rescinded/edited, and distance himself unequivocally from this most unAmerican policy.
petefrt on April 17, 2009 at 11:18 AM
Post the comment you read, or are you telling a fib?
hawkdriver on April 17, 2009 at 11:18 AM
rplat on April 17, 2009 at 11:18 AM
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/jon-soltz/military-training-on-extr_b_187924.html
True or false?
getalife on April 17, 2009 at 11:18 AM
Hi! I was planning on going to Chick-Fil-A for lunch. I think it’s a rightwing extremist hideout, since they aren’t open on Sundays.
hawksruleva on April 17, 2009 at 11:19 AM
. . . and not all trolls are slanderous fools.
rplat on April 17, 2009 at 11:19 AM
Never heard of anything that would fit that category, but it doesn’t mean it’s not possible. You’re intentionally shifting the focus, though, and you know it. There is a difference between extremists and people who are against abortion or immigration. The DHS report tried to lump them all together in the same category to either a)discredit anyone with those viewpoints or b)keep people from voicing those opinions publicly.
That’s the objectionable part, and you know it. You just don’t want to admit it.
BadgerHawk on April 17, 2009 at 11:20 AM
Was hoping Dave Rehbein would jump the shark on that one…or any other serious veteran organizations.
RepubChica on April 17, 2009 at 11:20 AM
Excellent! Won’t do any good- but hey, I like cheering for the underdog. Otherwise I wouldn’t have joined up with FOAVC
Browncoatone on April 17, 2009 at 11:21 AM
True, but it seems like it was published as a leak for general internet public consumption, more than for anyone else.
misslizzi on April 17, 2009 at 11:21 AM
This administration is JOKE!!!!
Old Hippie Vet on April 17, 2009 at 11:21 AM
Did you know w wanted this report too?
getalife on April 17, 2009 at 11:21 AM
Notice a pattern?
Isolate and demonize a group. Portray it as a threat to the country. Whip up outrage against it. Create a false crisis. Position the administration as the savior protecting us from it. Come up with an alternative that they can more easily control.
Bankers/Wall Street
The military/veterans
Wonder how long till he introduces his civilian defense corp alternative that he has long talked about.
AmericanUnderground on April 17, 2009 at 11:22 AM
BadgerHawk on April 17, 2009 at 11:20 AM
No spin please.
getalife on April 17, 2009 at 11:22 AM
This is like a surreal nationwide AA meeting: “hello, my name is Victory and I am a right wing radical extremist” – only, we’re not meeting for a cure, we ARE the cure.
Ris4victory on April 17, 2009 at 11:23 AM
So we can profile people cause they might be against abortion, or god for bid against illegal immigration, but after 9/11 we had to search old ladies getting on planes, just in case they had time between brunch and bingo to go train in al qaeda terrorist camps.
MDWNJ on April 17, 2009 at 11:23 AM
Think the troops expected to play a starring role in “The Accused”? Btw you are wrong. My soldier found out about this when I did, and our friends who work for the Police depts-havent even heard of it. So if by troops you mean the ACORN paid for picketers, or the leftybotroll crew, then ya they wanted it.
canditaylor68 on April 17, 2009 at 11:23 AM
To try to preempt the Tea Parties by alerting local law enforcement to the supposed/alleged dangers that the Tea Parties would bring to various localities across America. Thus, local law enforcement would press local governments to rescind permits or physically prevent the assembly of those engaged in these Tea Party protests. That is the sole purpose of this “report” to law enforcement. Nothing less.
This, combined with the plethora of rantings from the left, from the media, such as CNN/MSNBC, and Dem politicians, indicates that their fear of a populist protest rivaling the so-called populist President was of far more importance than the observing of the Constitutional Right of all Americans the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the Government for a redress of grievances.
No amount of pseudo-apologies from Napolitano will release the entire Administration and the Democrat leadership nor the media from culpability in this travesty.
coldwarrior on April 17, 2009 at 11:24 AM
I’ll grant you that extremist groups COULD target a veteran for recuirtment, in order to take advantage of their skills. But there’s no clear reason for Rightwing groups to be more likely to do this than Leftwing groups. In fact, Leftwing groups, according to the DHS report, seem to turn to property destruction, so they might be MORE likely to seek out people with military training.
If Rightwinger’s are concerned motivated by the down economy, they’d be recruiting entrepeneurs, not soldiers.
hawksruleva on April 17, 2009 at 11:24 AM
Hmmmm…. Wingstreet for lunch?
does that make me a HotWing Extremist?
Romeo13 on April 17, 2009 at 11:24 AM
wow my spelling is off today. Somebody switched my regular Mt. Dew with decaf!
hawksruleva on April 17, 2009 at 11:24 AM
YES! Finally someone is challenging this regime where it counts, on Constitutional grounds. I was so happy to see it, I had to make a small contribution to The Savage Legal Fund and the Thomas More Law Center
petefrt on April 17, 2009 at 11:25 AM
I have a friend who’s one of those – he asks for extra hot sauce.
hawksruleva on April 17, 2009 at 11:25 AM
Crickets.
There is a history of RW extremists and they have expanded.
It is a threat not to be ignored.
getalife on April 17, 2009 at 11:25 AM
+1 to Savage for trying to divert from the MSM narrative on the OLC memos
jp on April 17, 2009 at 11:25 AM
Excellent…you brought to the attention that this word is suddenly missing in these reports.
right2bright on April 17, 2009 at 11:25 AM
I’d looooove to know just who wrote this report. Are their identies more precious than those of who got retention bonuses at AIG? Hhmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm?
Akzed on April 17, 2009 at 11:26 AM
Obama Doctrine: Iran and Cuba are friends, Americans are enemies
faraway on April 17, 2009 at 11:26 AM
Oh wait. Obama did. But he -must- pay attention to right wingers.
I see how it works.
lorien1973 on April 17, 2009 at 11:27 AM
I’m sorry but this is stereotyping of the most dangerous kind.
Weren’t there studies during the election that the people for whom race was an issue were Democrats? I mean during the Primary. There are plenty of racist Democrats.
White Supremacists might choose to identify more with Republicans because most minorities identify with the Democrats not because of anything they necessarily like about the “right.” Correlation doesn’t prove causation!
In fact if Micheal Steele can get those nuts to self-identify some other way that would be good.
And hatred of religion is certainly not a right-wing view. Who is it that opposes Israel? The right-wing? Not hardly.
Hate is now defined as opposing abortion and the rule of law in immigration?
The perpetrators of this report should be identified and drummed out of government service. They are obvious haters. No one who likes babies or religion or the military could have written this.
Prejudice and hatred is what the left is all about especially of babies, religion and the military.
petunia on April 17, 2009 at 11:27 AM
I’m REALLY interested to know what specific groups are being looked at. Are the Minutemen? Is National Right to Life?
davenp35 on April 17, 2009 at 11:27 AM
You’ve reported him to DHS, correct?
lorien1973 on April 17, 2009 at 11:27 AM
My fellow extremists, please note the following posts:
This didn’t receive any replies, so then we got this:
So, having been ignored, the troll re-wrote his/her post, this time more inflammatory in order to assure responses (which s/he, unfortunately, got).
Lesson learned – Don’t feed the trolls.
Religious_Zealot on April 17, 2009 at 11:27 AM
W is not calling the shots any more Einstein. Try and keep up please.
Old Hippie Vet on April 17, 2009 at 11:27 AM
Post the comment.
hawkdriver on April 17,2009 at 11:18AM.
hawkdriver: Since i took upinaks I Vow,I’m not
communicating with trolls,but getalife
is really taking a leap of faith,that
veterans might be inticed to join right
wing groups!
But,getalife is implying that the US Military
are actively training the rightwing groups!!
This sounds like a Truther type of crazy talk!:)
canopfor on April 17, 2009 at 11:28 AM
Excellent.
lorien1973 on April 17, 2009 at 11:28 AM
Obama places himself above the law.
There is no “legality” because there is no rule of law that Obama, Inc. regards.
Why on earth the members of the SCOTUS are remaining mum on Obama’s abuses of the Constitution needs their own discussion. As the SCOTUS, they have terminated the rights of citizens to address them, deeming us “without standing”–which of itself is unconstitutional, a matter of interpretation, not of stipulation.
maverick muse on April 17, 2009 at 11:28 AM
Ah, thank you. I should read the comments before I post.
carbon_footprint on April 17, 2009 at 11:29 AM
You failed English, didn’t you?
Don’t is a contraction for do not. Not is a negative. So is none. If you say
you have a double negative.
Disturb the Universe on April 17, 2009 at 11:29 AM
Remember, Obama said in his campaign that he would invade Pakistan…
…but would meet unconditionally with Iran.
None of Obama’s actions should be a surprise to anyone who was paying attention.
Religious_Zealot on April 17, 2009 at 11:29 AM
huntingtonpost? You might as well quote the onion. It at least doesn’t pretend to be real.
MarkTheGreat on April 17, 2009 at 11:29 AM
It’s false in the context you asked. The US Military banned all organized extremist groups long, long ago. It includes right, left, gang and criminal. The US Military has checked vigorously to try and ensure such activity is looked at in all background checks. To include checking for tattoos. At the tender age of 34 and having already spent 17 years in the Army, I had to strip and show my company commander and the 1st Sergeant what the doctor saw to make sure I didn’t have a picture of Tim McVeigh on my fourth point of contact.
hawkdriver on April 17, 2009 at 11:30 AM
Hey getalife, found you a buddy here to get acquainted with, John Allen Muhammed a modern day left-wing murderer, ex-Army M16 specialist….better go warn the Huff Paint crowd about ex-army, born-again Muslims on the rampage–it could get ugly!
RepubChica on April 17, 2009 at 11:30 AM
Isn’t there a right wing grammar camp still open anywhere?
BL@KBIRD on April 17, 2009 at 11:30 AM
BTW, is Huffington Post where you get all your wacky misconceptions of life?
hawkdriver on April 17, 2009 at 11:31 AM
No, all threats should not be ignored.
Instead of attacking our President, attack the extremists like you do North Korea, Iran, Russia, China, etc…
getalife on April 17, 2009 at 11:31 AM
Ignore the troll, she tries to hijack a thread with contrary statements, if you say the sky is blue, she say it is grey.
If you ignore the child that has an tantrum, they settle down.
You lose credibility arguing with someone with no sense and no real comprehension.
right2bright on April 17, 2009 at 11:31 AM
That is precisely the level and quality of grammatical articulation I expected from you.
rplat on April 17, 2009 at 11:31 AM
I wonder if any party attendees experienced any sort of intimidation from anyone other than the media?
misslizzi on April 17, 2009 at 11:31 AM
You are aware that it was written, vetted, approved, and published under your ObaMasta.
Your attempts at diversion are gettting more pathetic by the day.
MarkTheGreat on April 17, 2009 at 11:31 AM
Getalife wants a military confrontation with a goof ball who is anti-abortion. Now that’s nuance.
lorien1973 on April 17, 2009 at 11:32 AM
You’re the one trying to deny the specific words in the report.
BadgerHawk on April 17, 2009 at 11:32 AM
“What was the rush?”
Ask Saul Alinsky
notagool on April 17, 2009 at 11:32 AM
Ah, the source card.
He fights hard for vets with Webb.
Just admit you lost the argument.
getalife on April 17, 2009 at 11:32 AM
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