DHS ignored civil-liberties lawyers’ warnings on report; Update: Senators demand data, explanation

posted at 10:56 am on April 17, 2009 by Ed Morrissey

The DHS pushed its report out on right-wingers in one hell of a hurry, according to the AP.  Internal reviews of the document showed concerns over potential civil-liberties violations before its publication, but DHS ignored them in order to quickly make the document public.  What was the rush?

Civil liberties officials at the Homeland Security Department flagged language in a controversial report on right-wing extremists, but the agency issued the report anyway. …

Homeland Security spokeswoman Amy Kudwa said the report was issued before officials resolved problems raised by the agency’s civil rights division about analysts’ definition of right-wing extremism.

In a footnote in the report, right-wing extremism was defined as hate-motivated groups and movements, such as hatred of certain religions, racial or ethnic groups. It went on to say, “It may include groups and individuals that are dedicated to a single issue, such as opposition to abortion or immigration.”

This answers the rather absurd meme that has popped up on liberal blogs, that the Bush administration is responsible for this report.  First, while the Bush administration might have wanted an assessment of right-wing extremist threats, it didn’t necessarily want one that painted returning veterans and conservative thought on abortion, illegal immigration, and federalism as extremist threats, nor did it want a threat assessment that couldn’t find a threat and had no data on actual, specific groups.  Secondly, and most obviously, this report was dated April 7, 2009, almost 3 months after Bush left office.

Just when does the new administration take responsibility for reports they release?  2013?  For people who thought Bush was such a dunce, they seem to give him remarkable powers to control government months after he’s retired to Crawford.

Now we see that this wasn’t just left lying around from the Bush administration.  In fact, it was such a rush job that Janet Napolitano couldn’t wait to resolve the obvious civil-liberty concerns raised by her own lawyers before shoving it out the door.  Napolitano would later have to backtrack on the exact same language flagged by the attorneys by claiming that she didn’t specifically approve the report issued by her office and that she would have changed the language in hindsight.  She had the opportunity to fix it before its release, but the completely threadbare report was deemed such a high priority that it went out anyway.

Now, what could have triggered that?  Anyone know of events occurring just after April 7, 2009, that such an assessment could have painted as radical, extremist, and threats to national security?  Hmmm.

The Wall Street Journal reports that the FBI has tracked a few veterans for extremist activity, but because they joined extremist groups, not because they’re veterans:

Michael Ward, FBI deputy assistant director for counterterrorism, said in an interview Thursday that the portion of the operation focusing on the military related only to veterans who draw the attention of Defense Department officials for joining white-supremacist or other extremist groups.

“We’re not doing an investigation into the military, we’re not looking at former military members,” he said. “It would have to be something they were concerned about, or someone they’re concerned is involved” with extremist groups.

That’s the way it’s supposed to work — and that’s the way it did work in the Bush administration, whose assessment of left-wing extremists focused on groups with histories of violent actions and on actual data showing threats.

Update:  Via Michelle, Senators Coburn, Brownback, DeMint, Burr, Murkowski, Inhofe, and Vitter sent the following letter to DHS Secretary Napolitano yesterday concerning the DHS report:

April 16, 2009

The Honorable Janet Napolitano
Secretary
The Department of Homeland Security
310 7th street, S.W.
Washington, DC 20528-0150

VIA FASCMILLE

Dear Secretary Napolitano,

We write today concerning the release of the Department of Homeland Security (DHS) report titled “Rightwing Extremism: Current Economic and Political Climate Fueling Resurgence in Radicalization and Recruitment” prepared by the Extremism and Radicalization Branch, of the Homeland Environment Threat Analysis Division.

While we agree that we must fight extremists who are both foreign and domestic we are troubled by some of the statements your department included as fact in the report titled above, without listing any statistical data to back up such claims.

First, your report states that “Returning veterans possess combat skills and experience that are attractive to rightwing extremists…” without listing any data to support such a vile claim against our nation’s veterans.

Second, the report states that the millions of Americans who believe in the Second Amendment are a potential threat to our national security. Why? Do you have statistics to prove that law-abiding Americans who purchase a legal product are being recruited by so-called hate groups?

Thirdly, the report states that those that believe in issues such as pro-life legislation, limited government, and legal versus illegal immigration are potential terrorist threats. We can assure you that these beliefs are held by citizens of all races, party affiliation, male and female, and should not be listed as a factor in determining potential terror threats. A better word usage would be to describe them as practicing their First Amendment rights.

Also, you list those that bemoan the decline of U.S. stature and the loss of U.S. manufacturing capability to China and India as being potential rightwing extremists. We would suggest that the millions of Americans who have lost their jobs in the manufacturing industry to foreign countries are not potential terror threats, but rather honest Americans worried about feeding their families and earning a paycheck.

In closing, we support the mission of DHS in protecting our country from terror attacks and are proud of the many DHS employees who make this possible in conjunction with our state and local law enforcement. We ask that DHS not use this report as a basis to unfairly target millions of Americans because of their beliefs and the rights afforded to them in the Constitution. We also ask that you provide us with the data that support the unfair claims listed in the report titled above and to present us with the matrix system used in collecting and analyzing this data?

Finally, we look forward to your prompt reply and we offer our assistance to DHS in our shared effort to fight terrorism both home and abroad by using data that is accurate and independent of political persuasion.


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dhunter:

John McCain did not give you Barack Obama for president. It could be argued that a lot of short sighted conservatives who sat out the last election out of spite helped give us Barack Obama, but blaming McCain is silly. McCain is not the guy who wrote this report.

Terrye on April 17, 2009 at 7:54 PM

And personally I think that if you go after a new party it will end up just like Ross Perot, with conservatives getting beaten badly while they flail away at each other and Democrats win. Do not make it easier for Barack Obama than it already is.

Republicans by and large are good on the second amendment and most of them are pro life as well. It could be worse, in fact Barack is worse.

Terrye on April 17, 2009 at 7:56 PM

Burr might not get much attention in the Senate, but he’s learned his lesson from us conservatives/extremists here. The immigration BS last year taught him to listen to those who keep him in office, and I’ll gladly continue to support him. I write at least one email a week to him, and NEVER fail to get a written letter in the mail from him addressing my ramblings.

ProudinNC on April 17, 2009 at 8:07 PM

Terrye on April 17, 2009 at 7:56 PM

I’m of two minds on this but I think the best path is to take back the damned party and toss the RINOs over to the dark side. It’s not like they’ve been doing us any good recently. That would be almost the same as forming a new party without the division.

Oldnuke on April 17, 2009 at 8:08 PM

Terrye on April 17, 2009 at 7:56 PM

That, or it goes the way of the Whigs…

Which is actualy a very good historical example.

The Whigs had lost betrayed the faith of their members… by being corrupt, and not following their own stated Platform…

We have almost 40% of the electorate who do not identify as part of either major party… thats a LOT of disenfranchiesed people.

Romeo13 on April 17, 2009 at 8:55 PM

Civil liberties officials at the Homeland Security Department flagged …

Uh, I suppose these would be the people hired to protect Hamas et al

Upstater85 on April 17, 2009 at 9:12 PM

It seems good that these Senators are taking on the “honorable” Secretary of the Department of Homeland “Defense.” But if none of these Senators know how to spell “facsimile,” if they all think “data” is a better lexical choice than “information,” and if they all think the last sentence of the seventh paragraph needs a question mark, then the Americans are ruled by some dull Senators, besides the dull, over-confident President.

Kralizec on April 17, 2009 at 9:32 PM

it was such a rush job that Janet Napolitano couldn’t wait to resolve the obvious civil-liberty concerns raised by her own lawyers before shoving it out the door.

The timing is curious. The Obama administration wanted to squelch the Tea Party crowd. Less than 100 days in office and 250,000 taking to the streets to protest wasn’t to be tolerated.
It’s all so Chicago-Style politics.

Such a disgraceful attack on our Veterans just to cover for President TelePrompter is lower than even I expected.

Also curious they blame the Bush admin; he’s been out of office for 3 months.

TN Mom on April 17, 2009 at 9:33 PM

If you can find the primers….

ladyingray on April 17, 2009 at 2:03 PM

My dear lady…
I feel your pain. Primers are scarce; my husband has been buying them from online auctions, and 5000 small pistol primers are going for more than $400. Yeesh.

uncivilized on April 17, 2009 at 9:45 PM

Gee, I was in amongst a nest of radicals last week. It was a well organized, disciplined meeting with about 1000 people chanting from books and reciting the same words. Many of these people had a primary loyalty other than the Federal Government.

There even had their own army with a bunch of guys brandishing unsheathed swords escorting the leader of this gathering.

The leader then came out and made, according to homeland security, dangerous terroristic statements. They even tried to recruit people to become even more involved in this dangerourous group of radicals.

Yep, My son was confirmed, the bishop was escorted by the Knights of Columbus, he mentioned the sanctity of life and asked people to consider a vocation in the clergy… And this Jug Eared Jackass and his administration have the unmitigated call to question the patriotism of these people?? No wonder Obama wanted the name of Jesus hidden when he spoke at that college.

bullseye on April 17, 2009 at 10:11 PM

This is too funny click on the J’accuse!!! when you get to the post. So are the comments, I do so enjoy villainous company.

http://www.villainouscompany.com/vcblog/archives/2009/04/as_i_suspected.html

Dr Evil on April 17, 2009 at 10:17 PM

True or false?
getalife

Oh getalife your such a gullible sap aren’t you.

Jon Soltz has committed the sin known as a “lie of omission”

Starting sometime in the early 90’s the military became aware of a growing problem with “GANGS” and yes RW Aryan GANGS included.

The “training” Soltz is referencing has been on going since 1995. That however would not fit the narrative now would it?

Ya can’t link Bush to 1995 and the military, Soltz, is either ignorant about this or intention left that little fact out.

He also left out the training was about “GANGS” in general.
That wouldn’t fit the RW narrative now would it?

LA street gangs infiltrate US army: The
Crips and the Bloods have
( Weekly Journal, The ) July 27, 1995

“LA street gangs infiltrate US army: The Crips
and the Bloods have been. uncovered within
the US military, and linked to drive-by

Although most gang crimes – which include
drug trafficking, robbery, assault and at
least 10 murders to date – have taken place
off-duty and off base, there are signs that
the problem is growing.”

If the problem was “growing” in 1995 means it didn’t start in 2003.

Newsweek believes “the US military is
inevitably affected by all the problems of
society at large – including the spread of
gang-related crime and violence”.

According to Newsweek, the US Justice
Department produced a report in 1994 that
warned some gangs had access to grenades, machine guns, rocket launchers and military
explosives. It added that members who are or
have been in the services are teaching others
military tactics, and that “with arms,
weapons proficiency and tactics, some street
gangs now have the ability to effectively
engage in terrorist activities”

WOW! that sounds like this new report don’t it?

In addition, the army and air force manuals
warn: “The influence of gangs appears to be
growing and the frequency of gang violence
related to the USAF will likely increase.

There is no such thing as a `wannabee’ . If a
person wants to be a gang member, acts and
dresses like a gang member, he is a gang
member and just as dangerous.”
The manual now also lists descriptions of
gang hand signs and gang colours to help
criminal investigators spot covert gang
activity.
Ethnic NewsWatch ) SoftLine Information,
Inc., Stamford, CT
Gregory Francis, Vivienne; Vistica, LA street
gangs infiltrate US army: The Crips and the
Bloods have., Weekly Journal, The,

DSchoen on April 17, 2009 at 10:18 PM

And personally I think that if you go after a new party it will end up just like Ross Perot, with conservatives getting beaten badly while they flail away at each other and Democrats win. Do not make it easier for Barack Obama than it already is.

Republicans by and large are good on the second amendment and most of them are pro life as well. It could be worse, in fact Barack is worse.

Terrye on April 17, 2009 at 7:56 PM

My God … is that all that’s important? Winning elections? I know it’s important and all – but it should not override principle. The reason we LOST the last election is because we compromised our principles. We believed (because the media TOLD us) that the Republican “brand” was kaput – and Conservatism is dead.

So in order to win – we ran a guy who is softer on “torture” than Barack Obama is – if that’s even possible. We ran “Democrat Lite”. Where did it get us? We got beaten … and beaten badly. It would have been worse had McCain not put a Pro-Life fire-eater on the ticket as his running mate – and she carried A HELLUVA LOT of his water.

So lesson learned here – adhere to PRINCIPLE – the victories will come.

HondaV65 on April 17, 2009 at 10:22 PM

No spin please.
getalife

the only one who’s spinning geta is you, cuz ya don’t know what your talking about and to dumb or lazy to look it up.

DSchoen on April 17, 2009 at 10:31 PM

The best sign I saw at our tea party on Wednesday said, “I went to bed a conservative, and I woke up a threat to national security.” That’s probably the most succinct assessment of this bogus report I’ve seen. You can’t spin the fact that conservatives are under attack by this administration. Liberals, take note that the government that can give you everything can take it away, too. You’re a bunch of modern-day Esaus (yeah, it’s in the Bible) who are willing to sell your birthright for a mess of pottage.

College Prof on April 17, 2009 at 10:38 PM

What if this is tax payer money from the stimulus or other large spending bills being redirected? Could this be tax payer dollars these large donations to universities?

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/30252318/

Dr Evil on April 17, 2009 at 10:38 PM

It is pretty comical to state those who believe in the right to life would be terrorist yet those who think Killing babies is ok aren’t.

Rbastid on April 17, 2009 at 10:39 PM

HondaV65 on April 17, 2009 at 10:22 PM
Agreed! The above letter is wishy washy B.S. We cannot win the battle by asking permission of the dems, which is the tone this piece of garbage takes. The Honorable, Good Friends, High ground routine got John Mccain his ass handed to him. He failed to fight, fight, fight, or even lay out the truth re: Fannie, Freddie, and where the blame lies. Instead he suspended his campaign and went to DC to become Mr. Bipartisan and the street fightin dems handed him his foolish ass. In the process they blamed the crash of the markets on Capitalism and free enterprise a charge he was too foolish and not mentally prepared to refute.
John McCain held the microphone and would have had the spotlight had he named names and demanded investigations and that heads roll.

You can’t win a street fight playing by Marcus of Queensbury rules niether can you retake the Whitehouse , House ,or Senate by not exposing the lyin communists for what and who they are . This is a prime example of why we need to rid the party of RINOs or start a new one and institute TERM LIMITS

dhunter on April 17, 2009 at 10:40 PM

You can’t win a street fight playing by Marcus of Queensbury rules

dhunter on April 17, 2009 at 10:40 PM

Well said.. Someone ought to buy a couple of hundred copies of Machiavelli’s The Prince, lock the republican leadership in their rooms with the book, and then quiz them. Don’t let them out till they understand the concepts there.

For those of you who haven’t read it, it is something to read.

The republican party is being Neville Chamberlain and the dems are Machiavelli.

bullseye on April 17, 2009 at 10:55 PM

No, all threats should not be ignored.
Instead of attacking our President, attack the extremists like you do North Korea, Iran, Russia, China, etc…
getalife

Hey geta how bout President Obama going after NK, AQ, Iran, Russia, China etc as opposed to US citizens!

How bout use that time and energy on REAL threats as opposed to say
Operation Rushbo
Operation Beck

Or putting ALL military vets under suspicion cuz they have the POTENTIAL to do whatever.

Its hard to believe anyone one on the left would accept a report about any group based on the “POTENTIAL” to do something wrong.

Think about it, getaclue. Are you over 21?
If yes then you have the “POTENTIAL” to be a drunk driver and kill someone. Should the government keep an eye on you cuz you the “POTENTIAL” to be a drunk driver?

Ya know that car or motorcycle could be “potentially” used as a weapon. Shouldn’t we take that from you
“just to be safe?”

DSchoen on April 17, 2009 at 11:29 PM

John McCain did not give you Barack Obama for president. It could be argued that a lot of short sighted conservatives who sat out the last election out of spite helped give us Barack Obama, but blaming McCain is silly. McCain is not the guy who wrote this report.

Terrye on April 17, 2009 at 7:54 PM

Actually, a candidate has a lot to do with whether he or she motivates the base to come out to vote. McCain spent years sticking his thumb in the eye of conservatives on multiple issues. He also failed to reach out to conservatives and galvanize their support on election day. Even with these failings he got 78% of the conservative vote while only 39% of independants voted for McCain. The GOP nominated the dream candidate of moderates and LOST.

Perhaps next time the GOP will find a true conservative who can articulate first principles and convince voters why fiscal discipline, robust defense and limited government are values that they should believe in. If they nominate another McCain, the GOP may well join the Whigs on the dustheap of history.

sdun1 on April 17, 2009 at 11:33 PM

I was offered a position at one of DHS’s datacenters as a contractor. I didn’t take it since I was offered a job that paid more.

I was required to get a clearance issued by DHS. While I’ve held a security clearance in the Army, I still had to apply for one issued by DHS. I had to submit an SF-85 (which looks almost like the SF-86) and a government approved fingerprint card processed by a law enforcement agency.

When I applied for security clearance, their crack security team lost my fingerprint card. I didn’t find this out till eight weeks after I submitted my packet and the contractor’s security officer infomed me. The card also had my home address, SSN, and drivers license number.

I’ve spent time and money for fraud monitoring. So far, nothing has come up yet and I’ve been able to purchase a new vehicle about a month ago. Now that this has come out, it makes me wonder. I’m not one to believe in conspiracy theories, but it is interesting that my personal info would have to be resubmitted because it was lost by the security office at DHS.

What’s really interesting is that the govt contractor I was supposed to work for is a disabled veteran owned business and most of the employees are vets. Makes me wonder if they’ll be profiled as extremists too.

Lay-Z on April 17, 2009 at 11:37 PM

Ya know that car or motorcycle could be “potentially” used as a weapon. Shouldn’t we take that from you
“just to be safe?”

DSchoen on April 17, 2009 at 11:29 PM

A little off topic.. I was at a gun show once and was ogling a Barrett light 50. There was a loudspeaker announcement “Please note, some vendors are selling brass knuckles, the police have infomed us that the are illegal in this township. Please remove them from the show”

It took about ten minutes before I could stop laughing.. Typical government. You can’t sell brass knuckles but you can buy a rifle that can 10 ring someone at half a mile

That was humourous.. However, the way this adminstration is painting conservatives, pro lifers, small govermnenters is downright scary. I’m beginning to get a feel for how the Jews in Germany felt during Kristalnacht and when the talk of “Untermensen” was beginning.

bullseye on April 17, 2009 at 11:38 PM

Burr might not get much attention in the Senate, but he’s learned his lesson from us conservatives/extremists here. The immigration BS last year taught him to listen to those who keep him in office, and I’ll gladly continue to support him. I write at least one email a week to him, and NEVER fail to get a written letter in the mail from him addressing my ramblings.

ProudinNC on April 17, 2009 at 8:07 PM

Have you ever tried doing that with the wench Kay HAGan? I can’t ever get anyone in her Raleigh office to answer the phone. I always get voicemail.

SouthernGent on April 17, 2009 at 11:53 PM

However, the way this adminstration is painting conservatives, pro lifers, small govermnenters is downright scary. I’m beginning to get a feel for how the Jews in Germany felt during Kristalnacht and when the talk of “Untermensen” was beginning.

bullseye on April 17, 2009 at 11:38 PM

Ich bin aus der Bundesregierung, und ich bin hier um zu helfen.

Johan Klaus on April 18, 2009 at 12:11 AM

Why doesn’t Napolitano issue a report about Lesbians who rape and murder 8 year old girls :

“California prosecutors say they are considering rape and molestation allegations against the woman suspected of killing 8-year-old Sandra Cantu and stuffing her body into a suitcase.

http://abcnews.go.com/TheLaw/story?id=7321954&page=1

sirpatrick on April 18, 2009 at 12:23 AM

Johan Klaus on April 18, 2009 at 12:11 AM

Somehow, Johan, it has a more authoritarian ring to it when you say it like that. :-)

coldwarrior on April 18, 2009 at 12:29 AM

No, all threats should not be ignored.
Instead of attacking our President, attack the extremists like you do North Korea, Iran, Russia, China, etc…
getalife

Explain to me WHY every person on the FBI Most Wanted List is a left-wing exremist but yet, the FBI have none of your so-called “right-wing extremists” even on their watch list?
Four from ELF or ALF, 2 Black Liberation Army Members and 4 Communist radicals.
http://www.fbi.gov/wanted/fugitives/dt/fug_dt.htm
This “report” is a farce, you know it, I know it, and everyone else knows it.

nelsonknows on April 18, 2009 at 12:30 AM

All of a sudden it’s “OUR” president? Do you want me to go back through the archives and find where YOU refused to acknowledge G.W. Bush as YOUR President?

O’bunghole may be “your” President but he sure isn’t mine, his contempt for the Constitution has made him illegitimate.

nelsonknows on April 18, 2009 at 12:33 AM

Barry just gave us more than enough ammunition to impeach him before 2012 or kick him out in 2012 IMHO. Especially if a connection can be proven that he ordered it.

And expect Janet Mussolino to be ordered to fall upon her sword.

theflyonthewall on April 18, 2009 at 12:36 AM

It will be interesting to see the enlistment and reenlistment data. Not even 100 days and the messiah has lost the military he needs. I am sure he can count on geta, et al to be patriotic and do their part.

jdkchem on April 18, 2009 at 12:39 AM

“California prosecutors say they are considering rape and molestation allegations against the woman suspected of killing 8-year-old Sandra Cantu and stuffing her body into a suitcase.

http://abcnews.go.com/TheLaw/story?id=7321954&page=1

sirpatrick on April 18, 2009 at 12:23 AM

This is the sickest crime. When they showed her picture after being arrested, I told my hubby that she raped that little girl. Even before they said she was. Don’t know why but she looks like a sick twisted person. Wouldn’t doubt that she is a lesbian. Bless that little girls heart and may she rest in peace. Children are the target for many sick twisted freaks, even some parents ruthlessly murder their own children. A woman stabbed her self to kill her unborn baby……….Unimaginable.

sheebe on April 18, 2009 at 12:58 AM

It went on to say, “It may include groups and individuals that are dedicated to a single issue, such as opposition to abortion or immigration.”

Haven’t gone through the whole thread, but I highly doubt that I am the only one to fix that statement:

“It went on to say, “It may include groups and individuals that are dedicated to a single issue, such as opposition to the death penalty for babies in utero or U.S. immigration Law.

Connie on April 18, 2009 at 1:56 AM

“It will be interesting to see the enlistment and reenlistment data. Not even 100 days and the messiah has lost the military he needs. I am sure he can count on geta, et al to be patriotic and do their part.

jdkchem on April 18, 2009 at 12:39 AM”

They are deliberately running down the military as part of the campaign to drop enlistments in order to justify reinstituting a draft. I’ll be at the bus station waving to all the patriotic hippies who voted for it as they head off to boot camp.

poplicola on April 18, 2009 at 2:05 AM

hurry up 2010 and 2012. lets get these nazi liberals the f*ck out of office and pull this country back from the edfe of disaster.

The Party that thinks Bill Ayers is a gifted teacher but our combat troops are terrorists…has got to GTFO.

Seriously, as an ex democrat i think all of my ex fellow koolaid drinking liberal nutjobs are just sacks of sh!t who will say and do anything anymore with no ability to stop and assess it.

Disgusting bunch of pigs they turned out to be…

BillaryMcBush on April 18, 2009 at 2:10 AM

If you ask me that’s a weakly worded letter and indicative of the republcans wanting to appear to nudge the boat once in a while but deathly afraid of rocking it. Another example of how what is either cowardice or dupicity on the part of the republicans is aiding and abetting the demofascists. The memo was blatantly targeting political thought that is in direct opposition to the administration and they should have asked napolitano for her resignation on the points that either she knew what was in the report or she failed at her duties not knowing. She seems to have been caught already lying about knowing what was in the memo since the civil rights lawyers at dhs have opened their mouths.

peacenprosperity on April 18, 2009 at 7:36 AM

duplicity

peacenprosperity on April 18, 2009 at 7:36 AM

This rag was addressed to “Law Enforcemet.” Do these dopes realize that a good share, if not a majority of Law Enforcement officers subscribe to the very ideals that they find dangerous?

Mr. Grump on April 18, 2009 at 8:03 AM

Not even 100 days and the messiah has lost the military he needs.

jdkchem on April 18, 2009 at 12:39 AM

He doesn’t care, he doesn’t think that he will ever need them. He’s surrounded by Clintonistas their contempt for our military is legendary. Coupled with BO’s arrogance why would he think that he’d need a military. He’s The One.

Oldnuke on April 18, 2009 at 8:41 AM

Washington with Mark Ambinder, THE ATLANTIC
4/17/09
Judge Skeptical Of State Secrets Privilege For NSA/Charity Case

The Obama administration suffered a bit of a legal setback this afternoon: a federal judge in California rejected the administration’s assertion of the state secrets privilege in the civil suit brought by [a] charity that was allegedly subjected to illegal NSA surveillance. Judge Walker crafted his order narrowly to prevent the government from appealing it immediately to the Ninth Circuit. On May 8, it will be interesting to see whether the administration presents a plan for safeguarding classified info — or whether it re-asserts the state secrets privilege.
___
Apr 17 2009, 4:59 pm by Marc Ambinder
Feingold Wants Policymakers Prosecuted

From an interview with the editorial board of the Manitowoc Herald Times Reporter in Manitowoc, WI, Sen. Russ Feingold:

“I understand that the president believes that the people who actually administered these tactics should be immune. I’m not sure about that. I understand that they have a greater argument than those who created the policies. But those who created these legal theories, knowing full well that there was not a reasonable argument, I’m not so sure they shouldn’t be accountable. I don’t see how we as a country say oh fine we knew this was against [sovereign] law, we knew it was against our own laws, and these people can come up with any phony legal opinion they want. I’ve read these opinions because I’m on the intelligence committee and had access to them much earlier than the public. These arguments are bogus..”
___

ASSESSMENT:

Obama is covering his own prejudicial abuses by promoting “State Secrets” executive privilege and by exerting leniency towards government officials who KNOWINGLY break the law in order to promote Obama’s agenda painted “with good intent”.

WHERE is the White House specific definition confining the government’s terminology, “white supremacist“?

WE KNOW that Obama considers our Founding Fathers to be white supremacists.

WE KNOW that as soon as Obama took office, the FBI and the NSA were directed to spy upon “typical white people” by the Potus.

maverick muse on April 18, 2009 at 9:09 AM

maverick muse on April 18, 2009 at 9:09 AM

This is Russ Feingold, exactly who is he referencing here?

But those who created these legal theories, knowing full well that there was not a reasonable argument, I’m not so sure they shouldn’t be accountable

Didn’t the Bush administration actually create the policies in question?

“I understand that the president believes that the people who actually administered these tactics should be immune. I’m not sure about that. I understand that they have a greater argument than those who created the policies.

If that’s the case looks to me like Feingold wants to give the people who perverted the policies a pass while going after the ones who crafted it. Is this just a ploy to go after some Bush people or does this whole thing rest completely in Obama’s lap?

Oldnuke on April 18, 2009 at 9:22 AM

The divisive Obama, reacting upon his own inferiority complex as a fraud, still hiding his student dissertations and transcripts, targeted every professional American as a “white supremacist” to be taken down.

Asians and Hispanics take note. Only “African-American” will qualify as the American minority chosen to receive recognition as non-white for federal benefits. Those reports are due. But you can bet the screws bolting down the leaks are tightened.

Never fear. The Democrat Party is here. Enter the gate and turn left to find your seat. Sorry, standing room only. BTW, no standing allowed. Lie down and comply.

maverick muse on April 18, 2009 at 10:47 AM

Oldnuke

Apr 17 2009, 4:59 pm by Marc Ambinder
Feingold Wants Policymakers Prosecuted

From an interview with the editorial board of the Manitowoc Herald Times Reporter in Manitowoc, WI, Sen. Russ Feingold:

“I understand that the president believes that the people who actually administered these tactics should be immune. I’m not sure about that. I understand that they have a greater argument than those who created the policies. But those who created these legal theories, knowing full well that there was not a reasonable argument, I’m not so sure they shouldn’t be accountable. I don’t see how we as a country say oh fine we knew this was against international law, we knew it was against our own laws, and these people can come up with any phony legal opinion they want. I’ve read these opinions because I’m on the intelligence committee and had access to them much earlier than the public. These arguments are bogus..”

I have been noting that what benevolence Obama appears to grant in one instance, simultaneously he pulls the rug out from underneath all those involved. What he gives, he takes away in spades. Any act of giving is merely for show to distract from what is occurring behind the scenes. And by “Obama” I reference his owners. Obama has no allegiance to our Constitution or our nation, only to himself. He has determined that Marx was worth selling his soul to serve, having taken the bribe and been placed into the Oval Office. Obama is merely the puppet in the hands of the puppeteers. Pinocchio is a very wicked boy.

maverick muse on April 18, 2009 at 10:59 AM

The adults are in charge.

Joe Caps on April 17, 2009 at 11:02 AM

That is sooooo clever, insightful, and original. How do you think up stuff like that?

Fed45 on April 18, 2009 at 11:07 AM

Did you know w wanted this report too?

getalife on April 17, 2009 at 11:21 AM

Ms. Garafalo, please post your reference supporting such a claim..you lying, pathetic excuse for a human being.

Fed45 on April 18, 2009 at 11:15 AM

Also, you list those that bemoan the decline of U.S. stature and the loss of U.S. manufacturing capability to China and India as being potential rightwing extremists. We would suggest that the millions of Americans who have lost their jobs in the manufacturing industry to foreign countries are not potential terror threats

I find it deliciously ironic that Michigan, the state that is being run (into the ground) by Democrats for the last 6 years and Detroit that kisses Democratic ass, is being accused (basically) of being right wing extremist.

Bwahahahahaha

Love it!

Quality Weenie on April 18, 2009 at 11:17 AM

Getalife said:

Our troops are trained about RW extremists and w wanted this report too.

Oh, REALLY? Please tell me, when did you wear a treesuit for Uncle Sam? Just what qualifies you to make said assertion? Or are you just talking from the 3rd sh!tter from the left, as we used to say in the Corps? I served in the Gun Club (US Marine Corps to chumps like you) for several years, and a large proportion of its membership were good ol’ boys who valued their privately-owned firearms, and took their oaths to the Constitution quite seriously.

Act right cons.

“Act right” as defined by whom, you?! Come and make me.

Don’t start none and there will not be none.

Bring it. I’ll wager I’m better armed than you, and I’ve been trained to use the arms I own.

getalife on April 17, 2009 at 11:06 AM

quikstrike98 on April 18, 2009 at 12:35 PM

That is sooooo clever, insightful, and original. How do you think up stuff like that?

Fed45 on April 18, 2009 at 11:07 AM

Parroting get-a-clue, typical lefty, they have no original thoughts, just re-hashed memes borrowed from their fellow brain-dead and moonbat masters!

Liberty or Death on April 18, 2009 at 5:02 PM

I’ve been a law enforcement officer for 18 years, and I’ve never seen such excrement offered as an “intelligence analysis.” This report completely discredits DHS. It reads like a mediocre term paper from a Berkeley American Studies student. This report is worthless to local law enforcement agencies. Its only use will apparently be to justify increased surveillance of honest, decent Americans who oppose Obama, all in the name of “homeland security.”

sgt_rich on April 18, 2009 at 6:56 PM

Why doesn’t Napolitano issue a report about Lesbians who rape and murder 8 year old girls

sirpatrick on April 18, 2009 at 12:23 AM

+10!

Dr. ZhivBlago on April 18, 2009 at 9:06 PM

Napoleonitano might look at the DOJ for that statistics that show 38% of law enforcement personel are veterans.
OOPS
40% of DHS personel are veterans
BIG OOPS
Hey Janet Reno’s clone, did you BOTHER looking at the FBI Most Wanted List for Domestic Terrorism, a couple of your boss’ mentor’s buddies are on that list.

nelsonknows on April 19, 2009 at 5:09 AM

I made a point of speaking to all the uniformed law enforcement officers around the periphery of our local ‘TEA gathering’. To all of them I said something like:

“It is very brave of you to protect the citizens from us dangerous right-wing extremists without full riot gear and backup by the National Guard.”

All but one of them laughed, shrugged their shoulders, and had a look on their faces that said they knew how ridiculous the DHS report and the current ‘leaders’ of our nation are.

The one standout of these conversations was the single representative of the State Police…. One I haven’t seen around here before. Maybe he was sent out of headquarters to check out the ‘rednecks’ here in one of the more conservative than average area of the state…. Maybe even one of Gov. Richardson’s hand picked enforcers. I don’t know, but he sure had a ‘stick up his 8u77‘ about something.

LegendHasIt on April 19, 2009 at 5:40 AM

The report? Released just in time for tea, obviously.

AnninCA on April 19, 2009 at 10:29 AM

I think the congressmen who wrote the letter targeted the true point. The First Amendment. The First Amendment gives any US citizen the right to join any group and to express

As well, HATE is a frame of mind and while morally deplorable, cannot be legislated against, i.e., thought crime. This is where this report is heading: political beliefs = hate = crime.

We need to stop letting Obama & friends set up the playing field and make thought and beliefs criminal. We need to say that right wing is not a dirty word, and that even if every pro-life, pro-family, pro-second amendment, & pro-legal immigration citizen were actually hate mongers who joined together – so what? It’s called freedom of speech; it’s called the First Amendment.

tigerlily on April 19, 2009 at 12:53 PM

I’ve noticed that getalife refuses to answer WHY everyone on the FBI Most wanted List for Domestic Terrorism is a FAR LEFT_WING extremeist including 2 of Jeremiah Wrights buddies in the Black Liberation Army.

getalife, what’s the matter, does the truth hurt THAT much?

nelsonknows on April 20, 2009 at 12:37 AM

Sick reflection on THIS presidency. FBI spies on young girls in the mall dressing room: YES WE CAN.

“FBI workers accused of spying on dressing room”

MORGANTOWN, W.Va. (AP) – Two FBI employees have been charged with conspiracy and committing criminal invasion of privacy. They were working in an FBI satellite control room at the mall when they positioned a camera on temporary changing rooms and zoomed in for at least 90 minutes on girls dressing for the Cinderella Project fashion show, Marion County Prosecutor Pat Wilson said Monday.

Gary Sutton Jr., 40, of New Milton and Charles Hommema of Buckhannon have been charged with the misdemeanors and face fines and up to a year in jail on each charge if convicted. Sutton has been released on bond, Wilson said, and Hommema is to be arraigned later this week.

By VICKI SMITH, (AP) 20 Apr 2009

maverick muse on April 20, 2009 at 6:43 PM

Off Topic, sort of:

Has anyone heard about this:
……………………FBI spied on TEA Party Americans………….
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“… (FBI Special Agents in Charge) to coordinate and conduct, either at the field office level and/or with the appropriate resident agency, covert video surveillance and data collection of the participants of the TEA parties. Surveillance was to be performed from “discreet fixed or mobile positions” and was to be performed “independently and outside of the purview of local law enforcement…”
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http://homelandsecurityus.com/?p=2659
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If true, it is very disturbing that the Federal government would be surveilling its own citizens for exercising their constitutional rights in a peaceable demonstration to uphold the Constitution and the Republic.

JeffVader on April 21, 2009 at 1:56 AM

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