The whole 2000 election mess should have gone to the House. Same outcome. Instead we’ve got this ugly precedent on the books, and every close election gets resolved by our judicial masters.

So Norm should go the full distance. Let Franken be the one to discredit Gore’s Florida position. That will make for beautiful hypocrisy.

Is that really much better than “Guy who ran a close tie to Al Franken and then won six months later after 8 different courts initially rejected his claims, only to have the supreme court finally decide things his way.”??

e-pirate on April 17, 2009 at 3:41 PM

Either way, it’s embarrassing.

Someone has to address this type of injustice and if not the Supreme Court, then who? Equal standards must be applied.
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Don’t forget there was a third candidate, a conservative, who got over 15% of the vote. Thus, the state voted overwhelmingly to the right. To have Frankin come out as the victor is not properly representing the will of the voters.
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The Minnesota public should demand a run-off vote. To let Frankin and George Soros’ “Secretary of State Project” implant Mark Ritchie (a former big time community activist), steal the 725 vote Coleman election night victory is outrageous.
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see:
http://www.secstateproject.org/

Is that really much better than “Guy who ran a close tie to Al Franken and then won six months later after 8 different courts initially rejected his claims, only to have the supreme court finally decide things his way.”??

e-pirate on April 17, 2009 at 3:41 PM

Either way, it’s embarrassing.

only to have the supreme court finally decide things his way.”??

e-pirate on April 17, 2009 at 3:41 PM

The judicial system is not a popularity contest.

The person who gets the most courts to side with him does not win.

If the SC over rules the lower courts, then by definition the lower courts got it wrong, and Coleman was justified in his efforts. Why are you so afraid of letting this thing run it’s course?

Gore appealing for recounts in Florida for five weeks = sore loser

Coleman appealing Minnesota results for five months = heroic patriot

e-pirate on April 17, 2009 at 3:08 PM

Gore was creating new law as he went, on his behalf, the Florida SC threw out 100 years of precedent. Gore was the one demanding that different standards be used in different states. Gore also lost every single recount.

Coleman has both the law and precedent on his side.

Yay for federalism!

Boo to activist judges!

Oh wait, in this case the reverse applies.

orange on April 17, 2009 at 2:54 PM

It’s a federal election, so federal laws apply. Is that a hard concept to understand?

So forcing a state the abide by clearly articulated federal standards is now judicial activism? Or is it that you just don’t understand what the words you use mean?

At this point, I am hoping that he knows there were OUTRIGHT shenanigans and this isn’t just some guy with ego clinging to a crumbling dream. How sad, if so. If not, I hope he exposes them all for what they are and we aren’t subjected to the NIGHTMARE of Frankenstein.

Mommypundit on April 17, 2009 at 1:04 PM

I don’t have the links handy, but there was ample illustration of contested votes counted for Franken marked similarly to votes for Coleman that were rejected. That alone violates equal protection. There are also examples of absentee ballots accepted in districts that were heavy for Franken while similarly flawed ballots in districts that were heavy for Coleman were rejected.

Based on that, it seems that Coleman has pretty good standing for legal action.

For those idiots trying to compare this to the Florida vote grab by Gore: The situation is significantly different in that you had people in Florida trying to divine the intent of voters in order to pull a victory out of a defeat for Gore. The Florida incident revolved around the courts trying to change the rules laid out in Florida law. Here you had Coleman winning, then losing in the recount as different rules were applied to different ballots.

ahh hell this is minnesota, the investagation would be done by the Franken/Acorn team.

Can anyone blame him really? Who would want to go down in history as the guy who lost to Al Franken?

rollthedice on April 17, 2009 at 3:17 PM

Is that really much better than “Guy who ran a close tie to Al Franken and then won six months later after 8 different courts initially rejected his claims, only to have the supreme court finally decide things his way.”??

Yay for federalism!

Boo to activist judges!

Oh wait, in this case the reverse applies.

orange on April 17, 2009 at 2:54 PM

A United States Senator is a member of the Federal Government. And if votes are in fact going uncounted (such as the absentee ballots Coleman wants counted) then that is disenfranchisement, which is also a Federal issue.

Gore appealing for recounts in Florida for five weeks = sore loser

Coleman appealing Minnesota results for five months = heroic patriot

e-pirate on April 17, 2009 at 3:08 PM

Gore was only appealing for recounts in specific Democratic heavy counties.

Coleman is appealing to have 4400 uncounted absentee ballots COUNTED.

Gore appealing for recounts in Florida for five weeks = sore loser

Coleman appealing Minnesota results for five months = heroic patriot

Can anyone blame him really? Who would want to go down in history as the guy who lost to Al Franken?

Coleman appealing Minnesota results for five months = heroic patriot

Take it all the way to the Supreme Court 71% (1134 votes)

Yay for federalism!

Boo to activist judges!

Oh wait, in this case the reverse applies.

The Minnesota Supreme Court doesn’t have to consider that argument, and frankly, I’d be surprised if it did.

Not to be picky or anything, but state courts can and do hear federal constitutional claims all the time. It may be given more credence in federal court, but that doesn’t mean the state court won’t hear it.

Do over election is the answer.

Winebabe on April 17, 2009 at 1:59 PM

Ah, I get it now. The Coleman supporters are still in grade school.

uh, not me.

Pathetic sore loser.

getalife on April 17, 2009 at 1:16 PM

Despite all that, we still love you.

How in the name of God Almighty do you blow an election against Al Franken? How did this happen?

Are the people in Minnesota this friggin stupid? Is Norm this friggin bad?

I DO NOT GET IT!!

bunch of friggin idiots….