Video: John Ziegler’s arrest
posted at 3:10 pm on April 16, 2009 by Ed Morrissey
From the Someone Left the Irony On Department, John Ziegler gets arrested by security guards outside USC’s Annenberg School of Journalism for committing … er … journalism. He wanted to ask people attending their ceremony honoring Katie Couric with their Walter Cronkite Award for Excellence in Journalism about the award, and the Annenberg School of Journalism apparently objected to … er … journalism. Watch the whole video, as John provides a good running commentary:
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When will Reporters Without Borders lodge a protest against the Annenberg School of Journalism for having journalists arrested? Would Walter Cronkite have approved of police locking up reporters for merely covering an event and walking on property that is very obviously open to the public in doing so?
The Annenberg School of Journalism … teaching journalists how to stonewall and intimidate … journalists.
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I just wish campus police would be half as diligent to keep liberals from totally disrupting conservatives who are invited to speak on campus.
RegularJoe on April 16, 2009 at 5:42 PM
A year ago, I’d have said the same thing. But I’ve changed. I’ve finally been pushed too far, and for the first time in my adult life it would be accurate to call me ‘belligerent’. Now, my response to your suggestion is found in the words of Samuel Adams:
RegularJoe on April 16, 2009 at 5:52 PM
funny thing is, if John turned and beat the crap out of those guards, he would no go to jail, for they has no legal reason to detain him. You do not have to let a policeman arrest you , its just a good idea too :p
Donut on April 16, 2009 at 5:54 PM
Un-freakin’ believable.
And that’s not fascism?
JoeAvg on April 16, 2009 at 5:58 PM
Hopefully this is already clear, but just to be 100% sure: I think it was a moral wrong and a rich irony for a reporter who was not disturbing the peace to be detained while attempting to cover an event at a university school of journalism. Since it is a private university, I suspect they had a legal right, but it was a foolish and evil decision.
That said, it is my understanding (as a non-attorney) that it is a crime to disobey a lawful order from a peace officer. Citizens have the right to file suit for violation of their civil rights after the fact, but I believe that a police officer can arrest you if they tell you to move along, or take off your hat, or put your hands on the car, or any other legal act, and you fail to comply. Any attorney care to confirm or correct?
I suspect that since USC is a private university — in essence a private company — they had a legal right to ask him to leave, or to make him leave, or to call LAPD to arrest him for trespassing; but he most likely had the right to refuse and resist the security guards themselves. And I’d bet pretty fair money he sought legal counsel before he went to know exactly what campus security could and couldn’t do, and what he could and couldn’t do in response.
RegularJoe on April 16, 2009 at 6:10 PM
There’s no real irony here…John got exactly what he wanted …
Exposing their hypocrisy …brilliant…
He and Crowder should team up…That would be fun to watch…every time.
jerrytbg on April 16, 2009 at 6:10 PM
Officially INVITE a Conservative speaker to a PUBLIC SCHOOL campus, and the schools willfully allow GROUPS of lefty wing nut PROTESTERS inside the event with banners and signs and allow them to yell and scream and shout down the INVITED guest until the event is cancelled.
Be a Conservative outside on a sidewalk in front of a journalist education building of a public school and ask questions in a journalistic manner and get arrested.
Yeah. That’s about right.
This is a great demonstration of exactly where this country is, and it’s obviously getting worse.
And they call Conservatives fascists and Bush, ‘Hitler’.
I would laugh, but I’m so disgusted, my stomach churns.
They’re fearful of ‘right-wing extremistists’? They’re in the business of creating them… and business is good.
SilverStar830 on April 16, 2009 at 6:27 PM
Yeah. Um. No.
USC and its satellite campuses are not private schools.
University of Southern California receives tax payer money, and plenty of it. It is a publically founded and publically funded school. Hence, it is a public school. Not private.
SilverStar830 on April 16, 2009 at 6:37 PM
No, it’s not.
At worst, it’s overzealous campus security.
I know you all want to believe that these JACKBOOTED THUGS that dragged Ziegler away were acting on orders from Kommandant Obama, but it aint so.
And until we see what preceded the security coming over, it’s silly to come to any conclusions about how fair or unfair his detention was.
orange on April 16, 2009 at 6:39 PM
Umm, actually he would, and you do. That’s why it’s called an arrest, and why police officers are allowed to use force to effeect an arrest. And, why it’s illegal to resist arrest. And if you assault a police officer while resisting arrest, you are probably guilty of a felony.
Sgt_H on April 16, 2009 at 6:48 PM
Good point. That happens far too often, as reported here in this thread:
Fiasco: Amnesty thugs break glass, shut down Tancredo at UNC
USC is a private university. While it receives public grants and contracts, that does not make it a public school, any more than it does for any other private entity that receives public grants or contracts.
Whether USC had “the right” to do what it did to Ziegler is still unclear to me. Regardless of whether it had the right to do so or not, it was the wrong thing to do and a stupid thing to do.
Loxodonta on April 16, 2009 at 6:52 PM
Do you mean the Annenberg School where Marc Cooper is a director… the guy who wrote the biggest douchebag editorial ever in the LA Times just yesterday? “Anti-Obama Taxpayer Tea Parties steeped in insanity.”
Why am I not sooprised?
Chaz on April 16, 2009 at 6:56 PM
And were I the security/police in this inident. He would have been face planted in about ten seconds. He was trespassing and being a jackass.
If he wanted to make a point about not being allowed to ‘commit journalism infront of a j school’, he could have done it without being a dink to the officers. As it is, he’s lucky he didn’t get his ass handed to him. He was actively resisting and those officers were entirely too nice to him. Just watching them not kick his ass is making me sweat.
I don’t know who this guy is, but given his conduct I lump him with the great unwashed ‘professional protesters’ just looking for attention.
Sgt_H on April 16, 2009 at 6:58 PM
Not a mention on CBS Evening news…
ericdijon on April 16, 2009 at 7:02 PM
Loved it when Ziegler looked right at the camera and said “so this is what it’s come to?” WOW
Ris4victory on April 16, 2009 at 7:03 PM
My, how HOT AIR has changed in this case.
Usually when the table’s turned, and it’s cops/security on a libtard, and these incidents are discussed in a thread here, all we see is pure unabated cop and security guard hate for the most part. The hate spews forth to the point you can almost see the spittle fly in some posts. And that’s when the perpetrator is being arrested INSIDE an event that the perp is intentionally DISRUPTING.
Now?
Not so much. And this guy was outside, not impeding anyone’s getting in or out, or disrupting the event in any way.
.
SilverStar830 on April 16, 2009 at 7:10 PM
Ziegler is obsessed with Palin.
Poptech on April 16, 2009 at 7:11 PM
So around the 7:30 mark, the security folks say that there was a designated area they told him that he was supposed to be in, but he strayed from that area. If security tells you to be in one area, and you leave that area, it kinda makes sense to me that they’re going to take action.
From a P.R. perspective, maybe this could have been handled better, but it doesnt make Ziegler look like a hero.
And he really does seem to be drunk. Maybe that’s the way he always is, but I could easily imagine that the security thought they were dealing with a lush here.
orange on April 16, 2009 at 7:12 PM
So ate you.
Del Dolemonte on April 16, 2009 at 7:17 PM
So sorry, ao are you
Del Dolemonte on April 16, 2009 at 7:19 PM
It can’t happen here……..can it?
notagool on April 16, 2009 at 7:20 PM
3rd time’s the charm
So are you
Del Dolemonte on April 16, 2009 at 7:20 PM
Welcome to the Fascist States of America.
Right as Rain on April 16, 2009 at 7:23 PM
Whatever your ideology, this scene is positively chilling.
I wonder which MSM “reporters” will speak out against this outrage? I’m guessing most of them will give it their silent assent.
Life in the Age of Obama.
cruadin on April 16, 2009 at 7:23 PM
USC is a private university and they have the right to do this, Ziegler just made himself look stupid.
Poptech on April 16, 2009 at 7:30 PM
This is not fascism but private property rights.
Poptech on April 16, 2009 at 7:32 PM
The young cop was seriously twisting the John’s wrist as seen when he leans over from the pressure. When the cop realizes the camera can see this, he relents. Also, the idea of ‘private property’ is specious and untrue, as is the idea that John is a protester.
Really had the guy with ‘you’re not the media,’ and ‘you didn’t stay in the media area.’ Heh.
TinMan13 on April 16, 2009 at 7:32 PM
What outrage? Chilling? What video did you people watch?
The guy was trespassing. He was advised to leave, he refused, he was arrested. That’s it.
Granted, the fact that a liberal university trespassed a “journalist” is somewhat ironic, but hardly “chilling”. It’s par for the course. Saying that this idiot being arrested is facism is just dumb. It’s the same as saying that anyone has the right to protest anywhere, anytime, which we all know is not the case. There are rules, he broke them.
Get over it.
Sgt_H on April 16, 2009 at 7:35 PM
I’m sure the ACLU will be all over this.
This mans civil rights were clearly violated.
elderberry on April 16, 2009 at 7:40 PM
If it was trespassing why did the private university have a press area set up?
d1carter on April 16, 2009 at 7:42 PM
Shouldn’t they be wearing brown shirts? Is green the new brown?
ornery_independent on April 16, 2009 at 7:42 PM
Yeah man, he’s not a real journalist cause he’s not part of the government backed official “People’s Office of Media” or whatever. (meaning CBS, NBC, CNN, MSNBC, ABC, PBS)
You see, there’s the government sanction official media that mouths the government sanctioned official news,,, and then there’s the rest of us.
JellyToast on April 16, 2009 at 7:45 PM
For the invited press. Campus security clearly said he was NOT invited.
Poptech on April 16, 2009 at 7:50 PM
Wow… Hmmm… non-sequitor but think about it this way. Why is it not trespassing for him to be somewhere other than the press area?
Seriously, what the hell is going on with you people? Calling the officers brown shirts? WTF mate.
Sgt_H on April 16, 2009 at 7:53 PM
Do security guards have the right to detain like this? I understand if he would have resisted he could be charged with assault but what legal right does the security dude have? I think I would have preferred to be arrested and booked for trespass to have it on the records in a legal environment instead of a circus environment. Put the responsibility back on the university to make sure they did every single thing properly. My guess is they didn’t.
JeffinOrlando on April 16, 2009 at 7:56 PM
If Zeigler had been pro-Obama, he would have been handed a cool refreshing drink and smiled at by everyone.
Fascistic supression of journalism begins small, like this.
And spreads like rot.
With the silent assent of the “treason of the intellectuals” class.
You must agree with them, politically or you are “trespassing!”.
profitsbeard on April 16, 2009 at 7:56 PM
I called the Annenberg School of Journalism and asked what was up with the video I just watched with John being “arrested”.
James at the other end of the line says, “He wasn’t arrested.”
I said, “So putting handcuffs on a person and detaining them for no reason is not considered arrest?”
Just as I got that out, James says,”Thank you for calling” and hangs up.
So I look a little deeper into USC (which is a private corporation, yet does receive public funds) and find that among others on the trustee board is one Wallis Annenberg, Vice President of the Annenberg Foundation. In fact it’s the Annenberg School of Journalism that’s in the b’grnd of the video and where that intellectual giant Couric was getting her reward, I mean award.
If you’d like to refresh your memories about all of this go this Oct, 2008 article on Obama, Ayers and the Annenberg Foundation.
Coincidence?
I bet if you followed the trail it’d lead to some interesting places and I’m not a conspiracy junkie.
OkieDoc on April 16, 2009 at 7:59 PM
meh, the irony is certainly there but he could have made his point in a better manner. BTW, joint locks hurt more when you tense up and resist. He’s lucky he didn’t get a dislocated shoulder when he was stumbling about and supposedly not resisting.
aikidoka on April 16, 2009 at 8:00 PM
Ok then NAMBLA deserves the right to film your kids playing in your backyard on your property. What? Not allowed? You FASCIST!!!
Poptech on April 16, 2009 at 8:01 PM
Where was all the invited press?
d1carter on April 16, 2009 at 8:02 PM
I don’t know whether security folks at a private university have the legal right to detain/arrest a presumably credentialed journalist who was not invited to a private university event in this type of circumstance. No matter, this really looks bad in connection with a “journalism award” and the intolerant university administrator who directed/approved the arrest exercised horrible judgment.
clorensen on April 16, 2009 at 8:02 PM
USC security has the right to remove anyone they want from private campus property.
Poptech on April 16, 2009 at 8:04 PM
Do you have to be invited to USC to all events or just those at the “journalism” school?
d1carter on April 16, 2009 at 8:06 PM
Many campuses have legitimate sworn law enforcement officers and not civilian security. I don’t know what the officers in this case are. Either way, they absoulutely have the right to remove people who are trespassing.
If they are sworn officers, they can tag or book, depending on local rules and officer discretion. If they are security they make a citizens arrest and turn the offender over the local police
The officers in this case showed an AMAZING ammount of restraint. They easily could have justified using much more foce than they did. And I’m guessing that the officers in this case were told by the administration to get rid of this clown. So for those of you who are calling the officers facists, you might want to place the blame where it’s due. These officers were simply doing their jobs.
And for those who think that ths moron wasn’t resisting; next time you get arrested pull your arm away from the cop while he’s handcuffing you and see what happens.
Sgt_H on April 16, 2009 at 8:06 PM
Should they have tazed him bro?
d1carter on April 16, 2009 at 8:07 PM
If ABC was invited press, why were they not in the press area?
d1carter on April 16, 2009 at 8:08 PM
Exactly, they clearly asked Ziegler to leave and when he just started being a dick they attempted to escort him off the property, he then started resisting so they put him in cuffs.
Poptech on April 16, 2009 at 8:09 PM
Ziegler is dronk on cheep box wine from Palin igglue. He have no rite to threaten he betters. Katy is supuryer journolist how just proof how dum is Palin. Palin can NOT read Katy proof it.
She say “Wat you read stoopid hillbillie?.
Palin say “I can see books form my igglue.”
See Katy is a bettor. Like Romney she is has house with more than 1 room and giant caroboo bed with all of Palineses sleeping togethor like giant pour family.
NO you’er ROLE Zeigler!!! Stay away from your bettors!! Go bake to igglue with Palin breedors and Vansustorens. Katy shoud have sick dogs on you that not poop like dog Romney save by tyeing to roof of car to feel bettor caus he car sick from Romney kid 7 driving too fast. GO BACK ALOSERKA!!!
Newagegop on April 16, 2009 at 8:10 PM
Not for “wrong reasons”. They can’t lawfully discriminate against racial minorities, etc. How bout free speech? I think this is a question. But the point is: How dumb is the judgment of the university administration in this circumstance?
clorensen on April 16, 2009 at 8:10 PM
I like Zigler, but not comfortable with Code Pink tactics.
RobCon on April 16, 2009 at 8:13 PM
The only reason they need is you are not a student, faculty or invited guest.
Poptech on April 16, 2009 at 8:13 PM
And if you watch to the end of the video, he was let go. Not taken to jail (where he should have gone) and not given a citation.
And where he’s whining about the cuff marks on his wrist, f’ing wah. Maybe he shouldn’t have been resisting.
And these officers appear to be armed, which makes me think that they are university police, not civilian security.
Sgt_H on April 16, 2009 at 8:14 PM
“The only reason they need is you are not a student, faculty or invited guest.
Poptech on April 16, 2009 at 8:13 PM”
What’s goin’ on Wall?
LtE126 on April 16, 2009 at 8:16 PM
The Wall and me are not the same person.
Poptech on April 16, 2009 at 8:18 PM
Exactly. Put Code Pink somewhere they don’t have a right to be and tell me people would be this shocked and chilled by the facist brown shirt police officers.
Sgt_H on April 16, 2009 at 8:21 PM
But… But… Ziegler is protesting for Sarah Palin, private property rights don’t matter in this case.
Poptech on April 16, 2009 at 8:23 PM
Code Pink tactics gave us Obama. Standard Republican nice guyism have us…nothing.
Perhaps we should considering looking into why works…no?
18-1 on April 16, 2009 at 8:24 PM
Again, you might be right. The campus police (under direction of the school administration) targeted him because he was asking annoying questions–functioning as a journalist. Lots of other folks are on campus that are not students, faculty/staff or invited guests. Ziegler was not a protester, and was not disrupting the proceedings. He was targeted for being a journalist. Maybe they could use “conspicuous journalism” as a basis for selective enforcement of “trespass” laws on an “open” campus, maybe not.
The essential point of my post is clear: a thoughtful, open-minded higher education administrator would NOT direct these (well meaning) campus policemen, who did NOT independently simply happen upon a “trespass”, to remove Ziegler. The USC administration exercised horrendous judgment irrespective of the legalities.
clorensen on April 16, 2009 at 8:25 PM
From the other thread:
And I’m sorry, but the fascist remarks here are inaccurate and unwarranted. Private property rights still trump the message (of which I agree) and purpose of Ziegler’s actions. In fact, I find it hard to understand how fascism can even be brought into the equation when dealing with private property. It diffuses and cheapens the importance and danger of the term (and confuses).
Do try and stay consistent with principles.
anuts on April 16, 2009 at 8:29 PM
It sucks to live in California
>_<,
FontanaConservative on April 16, 2009 at 8:32 PM
OkieDoc on April 16, 2009 at 7:59 PM
ZMOG! The school is named after noted leftist Walter Annaberg!
Tom_Shipley on April 16, 2009 at 8:32 PM
Asking annoying questions with a camera is not being a journalist. Is Jay Leno a journalist? Are the guys from girls gone wild journalists? Going up to strangers and interacting with them with a camera does not make a person a journalist.
Tom_Shipley on April 16, 2009 at 8:34 PM
How do you figure?
anuts on April 16, 2009 at 8:35 PM
Ziegler was just stalking he bettors. Katy is above Zieler. Katy need ask Zieler if Palin go to USC 2. Palin go to like 45 collages till tehy give her paper to gooo away. DONt be mad Ziegler. Katy is smurt like Romney she has guards to keep lessors away.
Go back Alaka and halp butcher turkee. Go find book in Palin igglue. That is real journolism!!!
Newagegop on April 16, 2009 at 8:36 PM
Beyond that, I don’t know what USC’s rules are, but often times you need a permit or permission to merely film on private property. I’m guessing they let students do so freely, but I’m not sure about non-students.
Tom_Shipley on April 16, 2009 at 8:36 PM
Who do you propose you call fascist, exactly? Security guards who are privately contracted to protect the wishes of their contractor (or employer if that applies)?
It would be far more accurate to claim “fascism” if owner of said property no longer had those rights.
anuts on April 16, 2009 at 8:43 PM
Ziegler better sue! That’s all I can say.
Government does not determine who the media are!
American Elephant on April 16, 2009 at 8:46 PM
[sigh]
In what aspect does this have to do with ‘government determining who the media are’?
Under what auspices would the complaint be?
anuts on April 16, 2009 at 8:48 PM
Private Propety Rights do not apply to “we think Sarah Palin be wronged” protesting.
Poptech on April 16, 2009 at 8:50 PM
The irony of it is killing me. The left literally screamed that this type of thing would happen under Bush.! And here we are under the democrats rule, and it’s actually freaking happening!!! Do you hear any on the left complain? I’m afraid we’re becoming a one party country.
4shoes on April 16, 2009 at 8:57 PM
Way to go John. You are starting to get to em. Keep it up!
kahall on April 16, 2009 at 9:03 PM
How come Hot Air isn’t reporting that the recent Right Wing Extremism report was created under the Bush admin?
True_King on April 16, 2009 at 9:06 PM
He like Palin he no can reed. He see NO TRASSPASSING sign and he just to dumm to red it. Just like poor Palin adn eskeemoo husband and xtream 400 chidren how go to church with snakes and fire and wolfs they sacrifise to golden MOOSE god.
MOosE god no say to murdur all wolfs PALIN! STOP killing all wolfs from sled and 4by4 and hellacopter adn with dropping 700 lbs of transcrip form 49 collages on pour dawgs head. Killing wolfs is WRONG.
Newagegop on April 16, 2009 at 9:09 PM
How is this guy suddenly a “journalist”? And since when do “journalists” have the RIGHT to go anywhere they want to? Seriously.
Some jackass with a camera and a microphone, goes onto a private campus, makes an ass of himself and refuses to leave when asked. He deliberately provoked a confrontation and was handcuffed. Somehow this is government facism and repression of free speech? Wow. Where did the conservatives go?
Sgt_H on April 16, 2009 at 9:09 PM
Thank you so much. If you would just do that same thing every day, I might feel comparatively competent. Bless you.
Loxodonta on April 16, 2009 at 9:11 PM
But… But… Ziegler is defending the wronging of Sarah Palin.
Poptech on April 16, 2009 at 9:11 PM
Most leftist arguments are based on projection. So the real worry when they start saying “Bush is going to bankrupt the nation” or “the Republicans are going to arrest members of the press the dislike” is not that Bush or the Republicans are going to do such a thing…but that the Left is thinking of doing so…
18-1 on April 16, 2009 at 9:12 PM
Must be another of those ‘right wing extremists’ that DHS warned us about. That microphone is obviously a loaded weapon!
GarandFan on April 16, 2009 at 9:12 PM
USC is a private institution.
It was holding an event that was meant to gain it public stature.
The university can decide who covers the actual event, but it is done for public stature and is then liable to be covered outside of the event itself.
The First Amendment is for the PEOPLE not the PRESS. It is the right of the People to have a free press, not the right of the press to decide who is or is not a journalist. That is no power granted them, it is retained by the People as a whole. The University can seek for certain credentials within the event to keep it orderly. During said event, external to the event itself, it does have to put up with other journalists who may seek information on it during the course of the event. They want the public highlight and stature, they put themselves into the spotlight and are then welcoming of attention.
USC had a choice about said event, to advertise it or not, to publicize it or not, to hold it in a quite room with a few school administrators and no speech, or to highlight it as an event, invite some and not others, and publicize it. When an event is publicized you seek public attention.
They got it.
If you don’t want public attention, don’t publicize an event. An award can easily be handed over without anyone in attendance beyond the head of the university or the journalism school. You put on a ceremony, expect it to be covered. You do not need credentials to cover what is happening outside an event: the right of the People to ask questions is allowed when such a thing is made for public highlighting.
Mr. Ziegler is no different than any member of the public not holding signs, not protesting and asking questions of anyone who would like to talk with him about an event that is going on that has been publicized. After the event they can shoo him away. You do not expect to have private property kept clear during a publicized event: guests may bring non-invitees that will need to spend some time outside of the event while it is going on. Others may take an interest in the event and come out of curiosity. Still others may want to question about the event. If you don’t want the attention, don’t put on the event.
ajacksonian on April 16, 2009 at 9:13 PM
Ziegler deserved to be arrested as much as Katie deserved an award for journalism.
/eyeroll
fossten on April 16, 2009 at 9:14 PM
Of course OFF campus.
ROFLMAO! Are you serious? Since when did private property rights not matter to so called conservatives? Scary.
Poptech on April 16, 2009 at 9:16 PM
Joe, this is what we like to call a police state, driven by leftist fascists!
BobAnthony on April 16, 2009 at 9:17 PM
ROFLMAO! The police state? Are you people insane or just this ignorant of private property rights?
Poptech on April 16, 2009 at 9:18 PM
Zieg-ler! Zieg-ler! Zieg-ler!
Go order Media Malpractice if you want to understand what is going on today.
Ted Torgerson on April 16, 2009 at 9:21 PM
What does Media Malpractice teach you about private property rights?
Poptech on April 16, 2009 at 9:23 PM
I was just glad to see that Larry “Bud” Melman has found gainful employment.
I thought he died years ago.
connertown on April 16, 2009 at 9:27 PM
the video is both captivating and sad all at the same time- way too much time spent on a loathsome specimen like couric, overall (ick). ziegler played it up bigtime and got the tape. I just hope he sues & hires a liberal lawyer to sue the liberal school. the lawyer’s greed will override his/her agenda and they shall eat their own, yet again.
Ris4victory on April 16, 2009 at 9:28 PM
Katy get award for saving amercan from Palineses and u want randum guy who go to who no wat skool to be journolist who disrupt event and make sean and emabarrass all peeple there. U peeple nuts.
U shood thank Katy she proof Mccame crazy to pick Palin over Romney. Palin destoy Mccame. With Romney McCain prezident. No Romney wear Mccame??? In Sinate!!! Palin send Mccame back to smellly Sinate ful of old men and foottapping and tax dodging and pork.
Palin probaby in ALOSERka killing pig to taunt Mccame. Sending him bacon and ham and rinds and chops and feet.
POUR Mccame shuld have picked Romney.
Newagegop on April 16, 2009 at 9:32 PM
Another Obamanation? Who would have thunk it.
DannoJyd on April 16, 2009 at 9:35 PM
Exactly. Off campus, numbnuts has the right to play journalist all he wants.
So you’re saying that by having an event in a building on campus, that the private institution relinquishes all private property rights between the edge of campus and the front door of the building where said event is being held? That’s your view of private property?
I’ll remember that when you decide to have a garage sale. I’ll follow the signs posted at the end of the street and show up in your driveway with a camera and no intention of buying anything. I’ll say that I just want to ask questions of your patrons. I won’t actually enter your garage so I’ll be covering the event from the outside. Then I’ll make an ass of myself and refuse to leave when you ask me to. Then when you call the cops to have me removed from your private property when I’ve done absolutely NOTHING WRONG, I’ll call you and the cops FACIST BASTARDS!!! And a hypocrite because by your definiton you gave up all rights to your driveway because you posted signs publicizing your event.
This really is where ‘conservatives’ are going? Wait till Ed puts up a post about some law abiding citizen blasting some supposed burgler on he lawn. Who will be crowing about private property then?
Sgt_H on April 16, 2009 at 9:37 PM
I saw no police in that video.
I saw no person functioning in any official capacity representing the wishes of the state.
Could I possibly have watched a different video from those speaking on fascism?
Better question: What in this video would give any rational thinking person to speak about fascism or police state(assuming one understands those terms)?
anuts on April 16, 2009 at 9:38 PM
cool but it is too long
Dr Evil on April 16, 2009 at 9:39 PM
Funny how those promoting Obama suddenly care about private property all the sudden.
Zeigler was just trying to spread the wealth around.
profitsbeard on April 16, 2009 at 9:40 PM
Again, I have to ask: Under what auspices would the complaint be?
anuts on April 16, 2009 at 9:41 PM
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