Video: John Ziegler’s arrest

posted at 3:10 pm on April 16, 2009 by Ed Morrissey

From the Someone Left the Irony On Department, John Ziegler gets arrested by security guards outside USC’s Annenberg School of Journalism for committing … er … journalism. He wanted to ask people attending their ceremony honoring Katie Couric with their Walter Cronkite Award for Excellence in Journalism about the award, and the Annenberg School of Journalism apparently objected to … er … journalism. Watch the whole video, as John provides a good running commentary:

Link: Ziegler Arrest

When will Reporters Without Borders lodge a protest against the Annenberg School of Journalism for having journalists arrested? Would Walter Cronkite have approved of police locking up reporters for merely covering an event and walking on property that is very obviously open to the public in doing so?

The Annenberg School of Journalism … teaching journalists how to stonewall and intimidate … journalists.

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I am stunned – I need more information to understand this.

Something is missing here – I think?

jake-the-goose on April 16, 2009 at 3:43 PM

USC is a private institution on private property. If he did not leave when asked he was basically trespassing. The Campus Police had every right to remove him and the ‘Code Pink’ trick of slumping to the ground was beneath him. Seriously!

thomasaur on April 16, 2009 at 3:44 PM

That was bizarre.

Terrye on April 16, 2009 at 3:44 PM

Try harder, Tommy.

Read my other posts. A journalist would get press credentials to cover a private event. A journalist* goes to an event to cover it.

A self-promoting sensationalist goes to an event with a political angle trying to make a point, and when he’s rightfully kicked off private property whines about the 1st amendment and “journalism” being under attack.

*and for the record, I don’t consider that woman from CNN a journalist either.

Tom_Shipley on April 16, 2009 at 3:44 PM

Gosh, calbear….It’s been years. I just knew it was different and interesting and pseudo-documentary style.

He’s found a niche.

It doesn’t pretend to be objective.

AnninCA on April 16, 2009 at 3:44 PM

I’m not a troll – but I do have to wonder, since I work at a university – didn’t they have a right to ask him to move along.

I totally agree that John had a right to be around – if it is a public campus; but the university has a right too for orderly conduct.

That is why the campus police should have let it stand with “Move along, sir.” and let it go at that. They were complete idiots to even touch him much less physically move him. If he’d been disruptive? Fine, taz him and have done with it. He only got loud after being hand-cuffed.

At that point – the police were wrong. Earlier – I’m of two minds. Sorry, but I kept thinking that if a man in uniform asks you politely to do something lawful – you obey. (Sorry, that sounds so Germanic doesn’t it…)

kybowexar on April 16, 2009 at 3:44 PM

If this was instead, CNN standing there interviewing people on a public right-of-way

CNN would have gotten permission to be there.

Tom_Shipley on April 16, 2009 at 3:45 PM

kybowexar on April 16, 2009 at 3:34 PM

I did not see the mob of thugs at Tancredo’s speech manhandled as much as this one man is for trying to ask some questions.

If this had been a NYTimes reporter at Bob Jones – would we react the same?

Probably if they had been treated the same. However, that video would run non-stop on CNN and MSNBC. Do you expect to see the Ziegler video on there tonight. Keep watching!

Brat on April 16, 2009 at 3:45 PM

No, they were out of line. He was dead right.

AnninCA on April 16, 2009 at 3:45 PM

strangelet:

Ziegler is like Moore? Yeah right. One small difference might be that Moore could not only get into this event, he could get an oscar and a seat at the Democratic National Convention.

Terrye on April 16, 2009 at 3:46 PM

Wait, unless he caused a problem trying to get into the event. Then, they had the right. We might not be seeing the initial provacative act.

AnninCA on April 16, 2009 at 3:46 PM

Can we now call them Fascists? Allahpundit?

Aristotle on April 16, 2009 at 3:36 PM

No. Allah assures us that this is temporary, so it’s A-okay, as far as he’s concerned. It’s just for a little while …

And why would anyone expect a real journalist to cover a faux-journalism award event, anyway? :)

progressoverpeace on April 16, 2009 at 3:46 PM

Maybe while he was in jail he did some tea bagging.

mindhacker on April 16, 2009 at 3:47 PM

If he’d been disruptive? Fine, taz him and have done with it. He only got loud after being hand-cuffed.

How do you define disruptive? Is attempting to interview guests of this event without having asked permission of the university to do so being disruptive? I think you could say yes to that.

Tom_Shipley on April 16, 2009 at 3:47 PM

You ever heard of something called press credentials? Journalists, when covering an event, are required to have them. They don’t just show up.

Tom_Shipley on April 16, 2009 at 3:27 PM

I’ve had press credentials, Tom. I know what they are. So does Ziegler. It doesn’t change my point in any way.

capitalist piglet on April 16, 2009 at 3:47 PM

No, CNN doesn’t get “permission.”

LOL*

What nonsense.

As long as you’re on public sidewalks, you can’t be touched.

Period. Why do you think we have the paparrazi?

AnninCA on April 16, 2009 at 3:47 PM

Also, he wasn’t arrested. Anyone who’s been arrested knows that it’s not a process that takes 10 minutes from initial confrontation to “freedom.” Whining about his rights being violated (when they weren’t) and him being arrested (when he wasn’t) puts us on the same level as the lefty protesters who did the same thing only months ago.

calbear on April 16, 2009 at 3:47 PM

Smells like fascism , looks like fascism.

the_nile on April 16, 2009 at 3:17 PM

Keep quiet. Remember Allah believes that the One and His followers are not anything remotely facist, so any reference to facism is prohibited on HotAir.

/sarc

Norwegian on April 16, 2009 at 3:47 PM

Tom:

You do not need permission to stand on a sidewalk..and of course CNN would have gotten permission, they speak the right language.

Terrye on April 16, 2009 at 3:48 PM

LOL* You think he doesn’t have press credentials?

Gimme a break. You’re totally clueless.

AnninCA on April 16, 2009 at 3:48 PM

Why do you think we have the paparrazi?

AnninCA on April 16, 2009 at 3:47 PM

To report on Obama.

MadisonConservative on April 16, 2009 at 3:48 PM

They looked and acted like campus police, not real cops. I’d have called the real police. Unlawful restraint is a felony.

kcfrommt on April 16, 2009 at 3:48 PM

kybowexar on April 16, 2009 at 3:34 PM

And if CNN or MSNBC or even Couric’s beloved CBS show this video, Ziegler will be portrayed a on of Jan Nappy’s and Botoxi’s right wing tea party astroturfing extremists.

Brat on April 16, 2009 at 3:48 PM

This “sir” nonsense should stop.

Kralizec on April 16, 2009 at 3:50 PM

USC is a private institution on private property.

thomasaur on April 16, 2009 at 3:44 PM

Of course, by the rules that were operational yesterday, since USC takes public funds (lots and lots) … you know the story, though I don’t think that rule applies today. Maybe it will be back in force tomorrow? It’s hard to tell.

progressoverpeace on April 16, 2009 at 3:50 PM

Brat on April 16, 2009 at 3:45 PM

I was talking about the actions – not the response. If John was wrong, he needed to be corrected. We know the moronic thugs at UNC were wrong – and they did not get corrected.

I hate to agree with calbear – I like John a lot – but I kept thinking that what he was doing was not much different than some liberal jerk at a conservative event. What I do object to, as well, is the “university” response. Though we might not have seen it. All they had to do was ask (order) him to move along and his camera. He should have complied and kept filming.
I’d like to know more.

kybowexar on April 16, 2009 at 3:50 PM

Nah*, the paparrazi are into Octomom. :)

AnninCA on April 16, 2009 at 3:50 PM

When the head goon asked if I wanted to be arrested, I would have said “Go ahead.” At least then they would have had to charge me with an actual crime. They were bluffing.

kcfrommt on April 16, 2009 at 3:50 PM

calbear:

When was the last time you were cuffed like that? Do you think there is anything normal about that?

It is like the NSA stuff, for years we hear how Bush will spy on us and then when Obama is in control, why it is all right..no big deal. If Obama wants to send people to Jordan to be tortured, what the hey…and if some guy asking questions after Couric gets an award for trashing Republicans…well that is okay. It is not as if conservatives have any civil rights or anything.

Terrye on April 16, 2009 at 3:50 PM

This all contrasts nicely (and quite starkly) with the Tancredo event. Welcome to the Bolshevik US!

progressoverpeace on April 16, 2009 at 3:51 PM

That was the most frightening thing I’ve seen in a long time.

baldilocks on April 16, 2009 at 3:52 PM

Terrye on April 16, 2009 at 3:48 PM

Strictly speaking from a legal standpoint, the entire campus of USC is private property and his permission to be there could be revoked by the University or their abents at any time.The C.P. handled it poorly but within their legal bounds.

thomasaur on April 16, 2009 at 3:52 PM

I’m just surprised that there were no journalists around to cover that event.

progressoverpeace on April 16, 2009 at 3:52 PM

LOL* You think he doesn’t have press credentials?

No.

What I do object to, as well, is the “university” response. Though we might not have seen it. All they had to do was ask (order) him to move along and his camera. He should have complied and kept filming.

The video picks up at some point after the campus police first approach them. Then cuts to the point where they arrest him. It seems there’s a lot of the conversation that’s not shown.

Tom_Shipley on April 16, 2009 at 3:52 PM

You ever heard of something called press credentials? Journalists, when covering an event, are required to have them. They don’t just show up.

Tom_Shipley on April 16, 2009 at 3:27 PM

Speaking from experience, journalists generally don’t need specific event credentials when covering an event from outside the event parameters as Ziegler clearly was. You don’t think CNN gets credentials and permission from, say, Karl Rove, when they cover a protest on his front lawn do you? And where do they set up cameras? Right on his driveway of course.

JonPrichard on April 16, 2009 at 3:52 PM

Well, as one who knows the West Coast journalism playing field, I must say…….this was so flipping rich.

It won’t gain traction, but it’s simply perfect.

This “school” is nothing more than a joke, professionally speaking. Couric is desperate to have accepted it.

EVERYONE in the business knows this. The only ones who don’t?

The public, and why should they?

This is simply the funniest ever.

AnninCA on April 16, 2009 at 3:52 PM

I laughed my way throughout the whole thing.

Fantastic.

astuddis on April 16, 2009 at 3:53 PM

They’re going to become more hostile towards us. We better be prepared.

Soon, they will have no qualms about using violence against us. As soon as they realize that the taste of blood is as sweet as chocolate for them, they will want more. Much more.

newton on April 16, 2009 at 3:53 PM

kc…hard to find your cell phone when you’re handcuffed. :)

AnninCA on April 16, 2009 at 3:53 PM

NPR on the topic of permission required by journalists

8. NPR journalists think carefully about the boundaries between legitimate journalistic pursuit and an individual’s right to privacy. We recognize that private people have a greater right to control information about themselves than do public officials and others who seek power, influence or attention. Only an overriding public need to know can justify intrusion into anyone’s privacy.

faraway on April 16, 2009 at 3:53 PM

kybowexar on April 16, 2009 at 3:34 PM

And if CNN or MSNBC or even Couric’s beloved CBS show this video, Ziegler will be portrayed a on of Jan Nappy’s and Botoxi’s right wing tea party astroturfing extremists.

Brat on April 16, 2009 at 3:48 PM

That’s just it! I want a higher standard from us. Just because they act like mindless drones of unsubstantiated dreck – means that we should be careful not to.

John could have made the exact same impact from an acceptable public place. There was not need for grandstand. Hey, I’m outraged too – but I have to wonder if he were not part of the problem as well.
What tips me off is – if they want him to go – tell the camera as well. They were not as professional as they could have been, but then John really had no reason to put them in that situation either. I expect better of him – and most conservatives.

kybowexar on April 16, 2009 at 3:54 PM

abents=agents

thomasaur on April 16, 2009 at 3:54 PM

Watch the video. They did. He refused. (”You’re not going to escort me. I’m not going to move. This is ridiculous.”) They arrested him.

You’re right. Private property. No press credentials. No invitations. To quote Hawk Harrelson — he gone!

Tom_Shipley on April 16, 2009 at 3:36 PM

Yes, and a plumber is a guy who’s got approval from union goonsquads instead of the guy who turns a wrench.

If they’re rentacops, they cannot legally detain him. If they’re actual cops, they should’ve Mirandized and booked him. The fact that they did neither tells me all I need to know about USC and its Annenberg School of Journalism. The fact that you defend their actions tells me all I need to know about your ambition.

Neither master nor slave.

Blacksmith on April 16, 2009 at 3:54 PM

You don’t think CNN gets credentials and permission from, say, Karl Rove, when they cover a protest on his front lawn do you? And where do they set up cameras? Right on his driveway of course.

JonPrichard on April 16, 2009 at 3:52 PM

Good point!

Disturb the Universe on April 16, 2009 at 3:55 PM

What no tazers? These campus cops are amateurs.

- The Cat

MirCat on April 16, 2009 at 3:55 PM

You don’t think CNN gets credentials and permission from, say, Karl Rove, when they cover a protest on his front lawn do you? And where do they set up cameras?

In those cases, they don’t set up on people’s lawns. they set up out on the street on public property. Zeigler was on private property outside of the event.

And, again, Zeigler was not trying to “cover” this event. He obviously was went to it with a point to prove. My guess is that the university deemed that we was being bothersome to those trying to attend the event and asked him to leave.

I have zero problem with that.

Tom_Shipley on April 16, 2009 at 3:55 PM

So, he’s trying to ask people questions and gets arrested.

Yet I’m guessing the totally insane moonbats at UNC who broke the window probably got a pat on the back…

Ahhhh America 2009….

therightwinger on April 16, 2009 at 3:56 PM

Thou shalt not shame The One and thou shalt not shame The Ones henchwomen either.

Speakup on April 16, 2009 at 3:57 PM

Isn’t USC taxpayer funded? If so, it’s not private property.

R D on April 16, 2009 at 3:57 PM

Libs absolutely hate it when you use “their” street-theater tactics against them.

Especially if you laugh knowingly then entire time.

Christien on April 16, 2009 at 3:57 PM

And, again, Zeigler was not trying to “cover” this event. He obviously was went to it with a point to prove.

Like CNN at the Tea Party.

Disturb the Universe on April 16, 2009 at 3:57 PM

than do public officials and others who seek power, influence or attention. Only an overriding public need to know can justify intrusion into anyone’s privacy.

faraway on April 16, 2009 at 3:53 PM

Thank you – that’s it. Come on, John – the choir knows Couric is an idiot. You wanted the non-informed to get it. You should have kept this way, way above-board.

However, that said -the moment they touched him – that was an error. The cuffs were just plain stupid. Though, I would love to know more about what happened, I think John does share in this being a situation.

kybowexar on April 16, 2009 at 3:57 PM

then entire time.

Christien on April 16, 2009 at 3:58 PM

And, again, Zeigler was not trying to “cover” this event. He obviously was went to it with a point to prove.

Like CNN at the Tea Party.

Disturb the Universe on April 16, 2009 at 3:57 PM

Two wrongs don’t make a right. See – we should not act like the enemy, or we become what we hate. Sorry to sound trite, but it is true.

kybowexar on April 16, 2009 at 3:58 PM

Just admit it Tom, you want all conservatives arrested and sent to the camps. It’s okay, we all know liberals are fascists anyway, so feel free to admit it.

Vanceone on April 16, 2009 at 3:58 PM

Oh man, this will end up being an inside joke, unfortunately, because the school isn’t understood.

But this was way, way funny.

In the meantime, back in the real world, this weekend is a fantastic and legimitate meeting of great thinkers.

It’s the UCLA bookfair week, which is such a treat.

AnninCA on April 16, 2009 at 3:58 PM

Dude, those cuffs were on tight.

- The Cat

MirCat on April 16, 2009 at 3:59 PM

However, that said -the moment they touched him – that was an error. The cuffs were just plain stupid.

What were they supposed to do. They asked him to leave. He refused. Were they just supposed to keep asking? Or just give up and let him stay?

Tom_Shipley on April 16, 2009 at 3:59 PM

I wish someone would do that to Pelosi and/or Obama when they start spouting lies about the financial doom they’re planning for America.

marklmail on April 16, 2009 at 4:00 PM

Just admit it Tom, you want all conservatives arrested and sent to the camps. It’s okay, we all know liberals are fascists anyway, so feel free to admit it.

I know I’ve made a good argument/point when people stop challenging me on it and start making personal attacks.

Tom_Shipley on April 16, 2009 at 4:00 PM

*blink* on the NPR. They rarely go out in the field. It’s a completely different niche.

AnninCA on April 16, 2009 at 4:00 PM

No One Is Illegal Uncredentialed!

Christien on April 16, 2009 at 4:01 PM

is this guy drunk or just hopped up on goofy pills? reminds me of cris collinsworth after an all night vodka bender.

GoodSamaritan on April 16, 2009 at 4:01 PM

No One Is Illegal Uncredentialed!

Christien on April 16, 2009 at 4:01 PM


+1000!

Disturb the Universe on April 16, 2009 at 4:01 PM

That truly was funny. Couric…excellence in journalism? That’s hysterical!

scalleywag on April 16, 2009 at 4:02 PM

I don’t know California schools, but is USC a state institution? Being outside a building is pretty much NOT being on private property.

NCJeff on April 16, 2009 at 3:30 PM

Even if it’s a state school… the school has a right to restrict access to campus facilities.

mankai on April 16, 2009 at 4:02 PM

Ziegler’s biggest problem is he’s just sort of an insider guy. He’s on such the right track about the field.

Alas*….nobody will “get” it.

But he’s no dummy, that’s for sure.

AnninCA on April 16, 2009 at 4:02 PM

If he had badmouthed FOX News they would have left him alone.

Crusty on April 16, 2009 at 4:02 PM

In those cases, they don’t set up on people’s lawns. they set up out on the street on public property. Zeigler was on private property outside of the event.

I don’t what journalistic planet you’re from Tom – media organizations DO set up on private property early and often. And yes they did set up on Karl Rove’s driveway when the whole Fitzmas thing was going down, jamming microphones into his car while he politely tried to leave.

As to your point about what Ziegler was or was not covering or what agenda he had in covering the event – that’s not for you or anyone else to say. Its the right of a free press to cover whatever they want, focused on whatever THEY think is newsworthy.

Apparently Zeigler thought it was ironic and unfair that no press critical of Couric could get an invite and only invited press could attend. Usually a journalist just asks for media credentials for the event and are given them – one would think this would be especially true at a journalism school.

JonPrichard on April 16, 2009 at 4:03 PM

thomasaur on April 16, 2009 at 3:44 PM

Uhhh… USC … University of Southern California is a PRIVATE institution?

This aint Notre Dame… this is a STATE school.

Romeo13 on April 16, 2009 at 4:03 PM

He obviously was went to it with a point to prove. My guess is that the university deemed that we was being bothersome to those trying to attend the event and asked him to leave.

I have zero problem with that.

Tom_Shipley on April 16, 2009 at 3:55 PM

So, if a journalist goes somewhere with a point to prove, they should be arrested?

faraway on April 16, 2009 at 4:03 PM

Two wrongs don’t make a right. See – we should not act like the enemy, or we become what we hate. Sorry to sound trite, but it is true.

kybowexar on April 16, 2009 at 3:58 PM

Fight fire with fire. Also trite but true.

Disturb the Universe on April 16, 2009 at 4:03 PM

However, that said -the moment they touched him – that was an error. The cuffs were just plain stupid.

What were they supposed to do. They asked him to leave. He refused. Were they just supposed to keep asking? Or just give up and let him stay?

Tom_Shipley on April 16, 2009 at 3:59 PM

Well, Tom – here’s where we both agree and disagree. If indeed they asked him to move along – and he does not. He is breaking a law. They notify him that indeed he will be arrested (that’s part of it you know – the rights thing). Tell him exactly what he must do to avoid that. Then do it. It’s even good parenting (laugh).

kybowexar on April 16, 2009 at 4:04 PM

I loved the pictures of the empty sidewalk the best. Great journlism there. A picture says it all.

AnninCA on April 16, 2009 at 4:04 PM

Its the right of a free press to cover whatever they want, focused on whatever THEY think is newsworthy.

The press does not have a right to cover a private event it was not invited to or did not receive permission to attend.

What journalistic planet are YOU from?

Tom_Shipley on April 16, 2009 at 4:05 PM

Exactly, faraway……

So should the CNN reporter who starts off saying, “So you’re already in debt,” be arrested?

:)

AnninCA on April 16, 2009 at 4:05 PM

Two wrongs don’t make a right. See – we should not act like the enemy, or we become what we hate. Sorry to sound trite, but it is true.

kybowexar on April 16, 2009 at 3:58 PM

Fight fire with fire. Also trite but true.

Disturb the Universe on April 16, 2009 at 4:03 PM

Trite – but wrong. The idea is not for you and I do agree with John. The idea is to get those who have no clue what is going on to see what is going on.

Here’s another one for you – the ends justify the means? That’s Obama’s belief and his crowd – not mine. The ends do not justify the means. Ever.

kybowexar on April 16, 2009 at 4:06 PM

Tell him exactly what he must do to avoid that. Then do it. It’s even good parenting (laugh).

They may have done that. It seems very convenient that there was footage cut before he was arrested.

Tom_Shipley on April 16, 2009 at 4:07 PM

JonPrichard on April 16, 2009 at 4:03 PM

+10

capitalist piglet on April 16, 2009 at 4:07 PM

Tom_Shipley –

So are you saying that wherever reporters go, they ALWAYS show their credentials and they ALWAYS have permission to be there? You need to get off the pipe and into rehab immediately. Your entire argument fails. Left wing reporters badger people all of the time, and they don’t give a damn whose property they are on and they don’t bother showing their “credentials.” Ziegler was doing what reporters from the MSM do every day and he had every right to do so.

echosyst on April 16, 2009 at 4:07 PM

Alas for Annenberg, If he was arrested causing a scene trying to get……that would be iffy.

But he was out on the sidewalk.

They are just so busted, and Couric must be dying inside.

What a joke.

She should never have accepted it, though. Not if she wants to be taken seriously.

AnninCA on April 16, 2009 at 4:08 PM

So, if a journalist goes somewhere with a point to prove, they should be arrested?

faraway on April 16, 2009 at 4:03 PM

No – but if it interferes in the reporting of the story – he or she should be fired or at least admonished.

We all have our biases – the rule of thumb is to allow for the facts.

kybowexar on April 16, 2009 at 4:08 PM

To the police’s credit, John Ziegler was acting goofy enough for them to think that he was intoxicated.

But that’s not why they arrested him, so shame on them.

Glenn Jericho on April 16, 2009 at 4:08 PM

I wonder if Al Sharpton would have been given the same treatment?

Speakup on April 16, 2009 at 4:08 PM

i’ve said it once, and i’ll say it again…

f’ing criminals..

I hope yesterday was the spark that lights the fire…

stlpatriot on April 16, 2009 at 4:08 PM

What journalistic planet are YOU from?

Tom_Shipley on April 16, 2009 at 4:05 PM

Are you a journalist, Tom? You seem to believe you have authority on this topic.

capitalist piglet on April 16, 2009 at 4:09 PM

I would love it if one of the conditions of Ziegler’s inevitable lawsuit settlement was to rename the school “The John Ziegler ‘Freedom’ School of Journalism.”

James on April 16, 2009 at 4:09 PM

So are you saying that wherever reporters go, they ALWAYS show their credentials and they ALWAYS have permission to be there?

No. But if they don’t have credentials, don’t have permission to be there, are asked to leave, don’t leave, then they open then up to the possibility of being arrested.

Tom_Shipley on April 16, 2009 at 4:10 PM

USC may be a “private” institution, but they accept money that the government has confiscated from us and gives to the school in the form of grants:

http://www.usc.edu/research/for_researchers/funding/federal/

By my definition, this makes USC a semi-private institution.

-Dave

Dave R. on April 16, 2009 at 4:10 PM

From the Someone Left the Irony On Department, John Ziegler gets arrested by security guards outside USC’s Annenberg School of Journalism Propaganda for committing … er … journalism.

FIFY.

Dr.Cwac.Cwac on April 16, 2009 at 4:10 PM

Uhhh… USC … University of Southern California is a PRIVATE institution?

This aint Notre Dame… this is a STATE school.

Romeo13 on April 16, 2009 at 4:03 PM

http://www.usc.edu/
California’s oldest private university.

thomasaur on April 16, 2009 at 4:10 PM

The irony is precious. USC would have been smart to simply let Ziegler do his thing, as long as he was not obstructing movement.

As to Ziegler’s versus the school’s rights: While USC is a private school, do they function as public or quasi-public facility, thus losing some of their privacy rights? Have there been any California court cases regarding public rights on private college campuses in the state?

Loxodonta on April 16, 2009 at 4:10 PM

The people arguing that he should have been arrested are out to lunch.

He was not harassing anyone.
He was not blocking anyone.
He was not inside the building.
He is a journalist.

The only people they arrest for trespass at USC or other campuses is when they have a court order not to be on campus or when they are in a building because they are trying to commit a burglary or they are trying to squat in the building (a big problem for universities).

The campus police know that the prosecutor is not going to file charges on Ziegler. Trespass cases, for numerous reason, are very difficult to win if the defendant goes to trial. And for the listed reasons, they should have left Ziegler alone to begin with.

And all you leftard trolls can piss off.

Blake on April 16, 2009 at 4:11 PM

Sir, you throw around the word journalism and journalist as though these words mean something.

moxie_neanderthal on April 16, 2009 at 4:11 PM

JohnP – I so badly want to completely agree with you, but from what I can see of the video, I honestly think John is partially at fault.

Worthy of handcuffs – nope. That was unbelievably stupid.

It did not look to me that either party was handling this particularly well. I just wish John had done this a bit better. I think he let his righteous outrage get the best of him. And I think the event folks were help out on that as well – the smug asshatness was pretty prevalent there.

kybowexar on April 16, 2009 at 4:11 PM

The John Ziegler ‘Freedom’ School of Journalism.”

James on April 16, 2009 at 4:09 PM

The Right Wing Fanatic School of Journalism

faraway on April 16, 2009 at 4:12 PM

Is Ziegler drunk?

Dr.Cwac.Cwac on April 16, 2009 at 4:13 PM

The fact that you call John Ziegler a journalist just illustrates how much you don’t know about the profession.

Tom_Shipley on April 16, 2009 at 3:22 PM

Priceless. He writes as if scribbling one’s observations or re-arranging a press-agency’s paragraphs is an act of impenetrable erudition.

Jens on April 16, 2009 at 4:13 PM

The Right Wing Fanatic Extremist School of Journalism

faraway on April 16, 2009 at 4:12 PM

Dr.Cwac.Cwac on April 16, 2009 at 4:14 PM

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