Video: John Ziegler’s arrest

posted at 3:10 pm on April 16, 2009 by Ed Morrissey

From the Someone Left the Irony On Department, John Ziegler gets arrested by security guards outside USC’s Annenberg School of Journalism for committing … er … journalism. He wanted to ask people attending their ceremony honoring Katie Couric with their Walter Cronkite Award for Excellence in Journalism about the award, and the Annenberg School of Journalism apparently objected to … er … journalism. Watch the whole video, as John provides a good running commentary:

Link: Ziegler Arrest

When will Reporters Without Borders lodge a protest against the Annenberg School of Journalism for having journalists arrested? Would Walter Cronkite have approved of police locking up reporters for merely covering an event and walking on property that is very obviously open to the public in doing so?

The Annenberg School of Journalism … teaching journalists how to stonewall and intimidate … journalists.

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Priceless!

rockmom on April 16, 2009 at 3:12 PM

USC’s Annenberg School of Journalism

Speaking of Annenberg, did we ever get all the documents detailing Obama’s interaction with Ayers on the Annenberg education project?

Disturb the Universe on April 16, 2009 at 3:13 PM

there is no room for tolerance and oppossing views with today’s left.

imagine what Bush could’ve done, had it not been for the MSM he had to deal with.

jp on April 16, 2009 at 3:13 PM

Free speech for me but not for thee.

OhioCoastie on April 16, 2009 at 3:14 PM

But Obama won the election… so we just need to put up with this. It is obviously the will of the people that the First Amendment be ignored and free speech stifled.

That’s the argument coming from the right these days.

mankai on April 16, 2009 at 3:15 PM

I take it these fascists are campus police.

Where are these cops when lefty/Islamist protestors are trying to shut down talks by Robert Spencer, David Horowitz, Daniel Pipes, etc.?

Disturb the Universe on April 16, 2009 at 3:15 PM

Thanks, Ed, for giving this a thread.

Disturb the Universe on April 16, 2009 at 3:16 PM

Smells like fascism , looks like fascism.

the_nile on April 16, 2009 at 3:17 PM

Asking questions is not a legitimate purpose. Didn’t you learn anything from Joe the Plumber?

/

Disturb the Universe on April 16, 2009 at 3:18 PM

Ziegler rocks! Go John!

promachus on April 16, 2009 at 3:18 PM

classic Hecklman was the cop’s name…

also notice that none of thew “Journalists” at the event saw this as news worthy…

Kaptain Amerika on April 16, 2009 at 3:19 PM

Ridiculous!

davenp35 on April 16, 2009 at 3:19 PM

What I want to know is why don’t they arrest the cameraman if they are both doing something illegal?

(I have to admit though – I cannot see why he could not simply move when he was asked to. Did he comply at all?)

kybowexar on April 16, 2009 at 3:19 PM

The Shape of Things to Come.

Akzed on April 16, 2009 at 3:20 PM

As Ace says, we now have two clearly separate classes.

jimmy the notable on April 16, 2009 at 3:20 PM

This man is a national treasure.

matd on April 16, 2009 at 3:21 PM

I like how he smiled the whole time.

Welcome to the minority.

getalife on April 16, 2009 at 3:21 PM

Ooops – I hit my submit just as they were forcing the camera to be turned off.

Hmmm – wasn’t that always Mike Wallace’s thing – they wanted the cameras off because they must be hiding something.

Okay, that got me solidly on Ziegler’s side – though it was better behaved than “protestors” all along.

kybowexar on April 16, 2009 at 3:21 PM

He says “I’m not a protester” but what if he were?
It’s okay for protesters to disrupt Robert Spencer et al but not Katie Couric?

Disturb the Universe on April 16, 2009 at 3:21 PM

/Leftist mentality on

Whaaaa! They didn’t execute him on the spot–Those cops are Right Wingers! Everyone knows that they all deserve death for opposing the wondrous greatness of Obama and the socialist movement! They are not tolerant, and we cannot tolerate that! Off with their heads! Then we shall be a tolerant nation!

/Leftist mentality off (though I have to admit, I think I used too big of words to adequately sound like a liberal).

Yeah, typical liberals. Hypocrisy is their reason for existing.

Vanceone on April 16, 2009 at 3:22 PM

I love Ziegler. He has no fear. This is what this country has come to. I hope he sues the hell out of those jerks and USC.

I guess he’s officially on the DHS list.

Pathetic….

davek70 on April 16, 2009 at 3:22 PM

Stunned.

myrenovations on April 16, 2009 at 3:22 PM

The fact that you call John Ziegler a journalist just illustrates how much you don’t know about the profession.

Tom_Shipley on April 16, 2009 at 3:22 PM

I like how he smiled the whole time.

Welcome to the minority.

getalife on April 16, 2009 at 3:21 PM

Haven’t you said repeatedly you are for freedom?

Disturb the Universe on April 16, 2009 at 3:23 PM

And some still ask themselves “How could Hitler gain power”.

the_nile on April 16, 2009 at 3:23 PM

Did he make a scene somewhere else on the property that pissed everyone off?

toliver on April 16, 2009 at 3:23 PM

Message to dissenters (real or imagined):

SHUT UP!!!

This has been a public sevice message from the Annenberg School of Journalism.

iurockhead on April 16, 2009 at 3:23 PM

The fact that you call John Ziegler a journalist just illustrates how much you don’t know about the profession.

Tom_Shipley on April 16, 2009 at 3:22 PM

Exactly. Everybody knows that to be a real journalist, you must be a leftist hack with your head up Obama’s ass.

capitalist piglet on April 16, 2009 at 3:25 PM

I take it these fascists are campus police.

Where are these cops when lefty/Islamist protestors are trying to shut down talks by Robert Spencer, David Horowitz, Daniel Pipes, etc.?

Disturb the Universe on April 16, 2009 at 3:15 PM

No they’re just “wannabe’s” security guards, USC is a private university. I miss Ziegler on KFI

borg on April 16, 2009 at 3:25 PM

The first of many arrests of “right wing extremists”

faraway on April 16, 2009 at 3:25 PM

Well, once the police/security try to arrest you, just go along.

But this was bizarre: what was his crime? Committing journalism?

Okay, we can arrest a lot of folks for that crime. Hell, Olbermann should get 5-10 for that crime alone.

SteveMG on April 16, 2009 at 3:25 PM

I like how the liberal trolls in this thread, such as getalife and Shipley, seem amused by the sight of people getting arrested for speaking up.

Man, I wish Bush and Cheney had been as evil as Shipley thinks they are–I would rather enjoy the sight of CNN, et. al. screaming as they are waterboarded. Since Shipley seems to think it’s a-ok for a person to be arrested for a point of view, that is.

Vanceone on April 16, 2009 at 3:25 PM

fascism at the Annenberg.

jimmer on April 16, 2009 at 3:26 PM

The fact that you call John Ziegler a journalist just illustrates how much you don’t know about the profession.

Tom_Shipley on April 16, 2009 at 3:22 PM

Regardless, he has every right to be there.

Disturb the Universe on April 16, 2009 at 3:26 PM

Did he make a scene somewhere else on the property that pissed everyone off?

toliver on April 16, 2009 at 3:23 PM

Give it a couple of days.

There is probably more to the story.

getalife on April 16, 2009 at 3:26 PM

I thought it was Onion News.

UNBELIEVABLE

Trojan Frog March

I hope that Ziegler files charges against USC.

maverick muse on April 16, 2009 at 3:27 PM

capitalist piglet on April 16, 2009 at 3:25 PM

You ever heard of something called press credentials? Journalists, when covering an event, are required to have them. They don’t just show up.

Tom_Shipley on April 16, 2009 at 3:27 PM

DON’T TASE ME BRO!!!!

Claypigeon on April 16, 2009 at 3:27 PM

Amazing.

Firebird on April 16, 2009 at 3:27 PM

Obamatrons squashing free speech. Full-blown Fascism.

jencab on April 16, 2009 at 3:28 PM

The fact that you call John Ziegler a journalist just illustrates how much you don’t know about the profession.

Tom_Shipley on April 16, 2009 at 3:22 PM

The Asshole Dissenter is commenting to either make himself look good or you look dumb. He’s disagreeing because it makes him feel cooler or smarter than you,

faraway on April 16, 2009 at 3:28 PM

getalife on April 16, 2009 at 3:26 PM

Yeah, they must have had a really good reason to behave like fascists./

Disturb the Universe on April 16, 2009 at 3:29 PM

A sad day for freedom caught on camera. Ziegler, you magnificent bastard!!

portlandon on April 16, 2009 at 3:29 PM

couple of rent-a-cops should get their @sses fired

gatorboy on April 16, 2009 at 3:29 PM

Apparently the lesson from UNC-CH… easier to send two cops to stifle a smiling conservative’s free speech rights than to try and stop radical leftists from stifling another conservative’s free speech rights.

We need to have these two stories places side-by-side.

mankai on April 16, 2009 at 3:29 PM

No kidding, this is, indeed, FASCISM! The unmitigated gall of a Journalism award being delivered by a group that deliberately violates a journalist’s First Amendment rights, OUTSIDE THE AWARDS CEREMONY!

It’s 1936 and counting….

stonemeister on April 16, 2009 at 3:29 PM

Compare and contrast

Brat on April 16, 2009 at 3:29 PM

Give it a couple of days.

There is probably more to the story.

getalife on April 16, 2009 at 3:26 PM

You mean it will take a whole couple of days for the left to make something up ,man they are losing their touch.

canditaylor68 on April 16, 2009 at 3:29 PM

I hate to say this, but it would really help if Ziegler wasn’t such a loopy guy. Was that him yelling “Freedom” at the end? Oy.

However, that’s largely unimportant in comparison to that shameful display by the rent-a-cops there. Sue, John, sue.

MadisonConservative on April 16, 2009 at 3:29 PM

Okay, Shipley: Do you agree with arresting people for asking questions? Only if they are conservatives, right, since you appear to be defending USC here. Put up or shut up: you agree that Ziegler should have been arrested here, right? And you further agree that this should happen more often?

Vanceone on April 16, 2009 at 3:29 PM

Faschismus, it’s Austrian.

the_nile on April 16, 2009 at 3:29 PM

Regardless, he has every right to be there.

No, he doesn’t actually. I assume the University of Southern California is allowed to remove people from campus if they deem it appropriate. Again, if you’re a journalist and you want to cover an event, you show your press credentials.

Zeigler just showed up, I assume in an attempt to mock Couric and in general, act like a jackass (to which I say — Mission Accomplished). This was not a journalistic endeavor.

Tom_Shipley on April 16, 2009 at 3:30 PM

Another USC Annenberg project in the news yesterday featured their funding of a “newsworthy” study of 13 people from which the determination was made that Twitter ruins young brains, not allowing the necessary 17 seconds to DECIDE which emotion to attach AS APPROPRIATE per message.

maverick muse on April 16, 2009 at 3:30 PM

I don’t know California schools, but is USC a state institution? Being outside a building is pretty much NOT being on private property.

NCJeff on April 16, 2009 at 3:30 PM

Shocking.

Dr. Manhattan on April 16, 2009 at 3:31 PM

I hate to agree with TS – but I kept thinking – it is a private university and most folks with cameras have to have a permit to show up even here at Purdue – a public, state-funded university.

However, if John were not breaking any laws greater than trespassing, this seems a bit silly to have done what they did. It would have behooved them to politely move away (which he should comply to – it is private) and have done with it.

They made his point by bullying him.

kybowexar on April 16, 2009 at 3:31 PM

Good job, Mr. Ziegler! USC, Annenberg School of “Journalism,” Katie Couric, and the ghost of Walter Cronkite PWN3D!

All of them.

Christien on April 16, 2009 at 3:31 PM

Tom_Shipley on April 16, 2009 at 3:30 PM

I bet they’re real selective about how they enforce this rule.

Disturb the Universe on April 16, 2009 at 3:31 PM

Zeigler just showed up, I assume in an attempt to mock Couric and in general, act like a jackass (to which I say — Mission Accomplished). This was not a journalistic endeavor.

Tom_Shipley on April 16, 2009 at 3:30 PM

Have you seen CNN ever?

faraway on April 16, 2009 at 3:32 PM

Sorry, private property is just that. No ticket, no invitation, no need to give a reason.

Go.

Wander on April 16, 2009 at 3:32 PM

More irony…from USC’s online report of the event:

Rick Kaplan reminded everyone about the importance of journalism for democracy. “I don’t think any of us went into this because we thought it was a good business model. We did it because we care about what we are doing. Democracy is at its strongest when we are great.”

JustTruth101 on April 16, 2009 at 3:32 PM

The fact that you call John Ziegler a journalist just illustrates how much you don’t know about the profession.

Tom_Shipley on April 16, 2009 at 3:22 PM

The fact that I call you a whiny liberal sissy mary just illustrates how often you post here.

Patrick S on April 16, 2009 at 3:32 PM

You mean it will take a whole couple of days for the left to make something up ,man they are losing their touch.

canditaylor68 on April 16, 2009 at 3:29 PM

Obama insists on his 2-3 day waiting period for a thought to percolate from the NSA screening of emails and private phone calls.

maverick muse on April 16, 2009 at 3:33 PM

To find USC Annenberg faculty or staff, please use the USC Directory.
Office of the Dean
Annenberg School for Communication
University of Southern California
3502 Watt Way
Los Angeles, CA 90089-0281
tel. (213) 740-6180
fax (213) 740-3772

The street address for the following listings is the same as above
Admissions Office
USC Annenberg, Suite 140
tel. (213) 821-0770
fax (213) 821-5574
ascadm@usc.edu

School of Communication
USC Annenberg, Suite 305
tel. (213) 740-3951
fax (213) 740-3913

School of Journalism
USC Annenberg, Suite 303
tel. (213) 740-3914
fax (213) 740-8624

Development and Alumni Relations
USC Annenberg, Suite 304
tel. (213) 821-1660
fax (213) 740-3772
ascalums@usc.edu

Student & Career Services
USC Annenberg, Suite 140
tel. (213) 740-0900
fax (213) 740-8036

Annenberg Resource Center
USC Annenberg, Suite 104
tel. (213) 740-4282
sblopez@usc.edu

Annenberg International Programs
tel. (213) 821-1276
ascintl@usc.edu

Public Affairs and Special Events
USC Annenberg, Room G-21
tel. (213) 821-3015
fax (213) 821-1593
ascevent@usc.edu

Facilities & Technology
USC Annenberg, Suite 233
tel. (213) 740-5297
fax (213) 821-1594
asctech@usc.edu

Webmaster
ascweb@usc.edu

Kaptain Amerika on April 16, 2009 at 3:33 PM

From where I sit, Ziegler has an unlawful detention (kidnapping) lawsuit to file against these goon tools(Heckelman et al) and against USC. Ziegler, get a criminal or civil lawsuit fund together and I will donate.

Have other reporters been allowed to ask questions out there on previous occasions and was JZ singled out?

This should be good going forward. Any liaryers out there for comment?

Western_Civ on April 16, 2009 at 3:33 PM

The Carolina’s are having a bad week.

portlandon on April 16, 2009 at 3:33 PM

This was not a journalistic endeavor.

Tom_Shipley on April 16, 2009 at 3:30 PM

Those don’t exist anymore.

sherry on April 16, 2009 at 3:33 PM

couple of rent-a-cops should get their @sses fired

gatorboy on April 16, 2009 at 3:29 PM

Nein! Zay fer chust following ohdas….

max1 on April 16, 2009 at 3:33 PM

Brat – compare and contrast?

Well two wrongs don’t make a right?

I agree with John and his wanting to make a point, but he was asked to move along by legal representatives of the university. They had every right to ask. If this had been a NYTimes reporter at Bob Jones – would we react the same?

I kept thinking “John, just do what you were asked to do by the policeman – and keep filming.”

kybowexar on April 16, 2009 at 3:34 PM

This stuff is just too good! Everything that the libs said Bush was – but he was not – they are. This is really tearing up the Constitution. But what of it? The One is calling the shots now. God help U.S.All.

OldeSCfan on April 16, 2009 at 3:34 PM

Sorry, private property is just that. No ticket, no invitation, no need to give a reason.

Go.

Wander on April 16, 2009 at 3:32 PM

so…. USC is private property then?

max1 on April 16, 2009 at 3:35 PM

maverick muse on April 16, 2009 at 3:30 PM

Not so long ago there was talk amongst the lefty blogs that the right had taken over twitter,Fox News and talk radio.

Pick the target…

canditaylor68 on April 16, 2009 at 3:35 PM

This is outrageous! Hope John gets this out more widely! What is our country coming to? First they say he’s not a journalist, then they say he is so they can put him in the “designated area.” Ah Kaleefornia, how far you’ve come. But with the UNC video with Tancredo, North Karolina isn’t far behind.

Christian Conservative on April 16, 2009 at 3:35 PM

wow!

Now, I just have to share my personal story. I once hired the daughter of one of the Big Wigs in Annenberg. She was a fabulous writer, highly talented. He was a complete drunk and really not a fun one.

His “gig” with them was shockingly a huge, huge academic rip-off deal. Mostly, he funded ridiculous boondoggle trips around the globe, while pontificating like mad.

The guy never did a smidge of journalistic work in his entire life and, this was personal, gave the absolute worst father toast at her wedding that I ever saw in my entire life.

This jerk sent her to USC, of course……

And then wrote her a note in her first semester saying, “Sorry, but I can’t afford the tuition.”

That’s Annenberg, people.

It’s a joke as far as any credible academic standards go.

It’s worse than Pepperdine out here.

(Pardon any bruised Pepperdine toes.)

AnninCA on April 16, 2009 at 3:35 PM

This is the way you get arrested; take note you stinky liberals. This man is laughing.
Contrast this with the screaming pansy-boys that we have seen in the past. Don’t taze me bro! Ahhhhh!

carbon_footprint on April 16, 2009 at 3:35 PM

I guess I’m answered: Shipley supports arresting people for questioning liberal dogma.

Who’s surprised by this? And then he is stunned by calls of “fascism.” Buddy, arresting people for having a different opinion is pretty much one of the foundational tenets of fascism that you fully support, apparently.

Good to know!

We’ve gone from “I may not agree with what you have to say but I’ll defend to the death your right to say it” to “As a liberal, I will not agree with what you say and I’ll arrest you for saying it. Oh, and I support civil rights.”

Vanceone on April 16, 2009 at 3:35 PM

I agree that the security guards were absolutely stupid to even touch him. They should have asked the cameraman and John to move along. Expected it to be done, and left it at that.

kybowexar on April 16, 2009 at 3:36 PM

It would have behooved them to politely move away (which he should comply to – it is private) and have done with it.

Watch the video. They did. He refused. (“You’re not going to escort me. I’m not going to move. This is ridiculous.”) They arrested him.

You’re right. Private property. No press credentials. No invitations. To quote Hawk Harrelson — he gone!

Tom_Shipley on April 16, 2009 at 3:36 PM

is he drunk?

dont take that as trolling ive never seen this guy before.

ernesto on April 16, 2009 at 3:36 PM

Can we now call them Fascists? Allahpundit?

Aristotle on April 16, 2009 at 3:36 PM

My high speed internet must suck. The video has to re-buffer every ten seconds.

eaglescout1998 on April 16, 2009 at 3:37 PM

get real.
This guy is just exact ideological photo negative of Michael Moore.

strangelet on April 16, 2009 at 3:37 PM

This was not a journalistic endeavor.

Tom_Shipley on April 16, 2009 at 3:30 PM

When you’re a lickspittle Obamatron arsewipe (Shipley), journalistic endeavors are defined only as those which advance, not question, the tactics of Alinsky, collectivism, statism, and the Borg.

Western_Civ on April 16, 2009 at 3:37 PM

And I personally am laughing like mad that is Couric’s big honor.

I’d be embarassed to accept it, and heck…..I raised my family via corporate communications work. Still. I have standards. :)

AnninCA on April 16, 2009 at 3:37 PM

The fact that you call John Ziegler a journalist just illustrates how much you don’t know about the profession.

Tom_Shipley on April 16, 2009 at 3:22 PM

Hmm, well, Ziegler used to be a sportscaster, wrote a long running newspaper column and has even penned op-eds for none other than the L.A. Times. He’s also produced several documentaries. Basically he’s a journalist.

JonPrichard on April 16, 2009 at 3:38 PM

Is he drunk? LOL*

You don’t get this? Seriously?

AnninCA on April 16, 2009 at 3:38 PM

Funny how not a single liberal troll here is against USC. There’s not a single hint of condemnation. They all love this, I’m sure.

Who’s surprised?

Vanceone on April 16, 2009 at 3:39 PM

The fact that you call John Ziegler a journalist just illustrates how much you don’t know about the profession.

Tom_Shipley on April 16, 2009 at 3:22 PM

First year Alinsky tactic.

RULE 3: “Whenever possible, go outside the expertise of the enemy.” Look for ways to increase insecurity, anxiety and uncertainty. (This happens all the time. Watch how many organizations under attack are blind-sided by seemingly irrelevant arguments that they are then forced to address.)

Try harder, Tommy.

faraway on April 16, 2009 at 3:39 PM

get real.
This guy is just exact ideological photo negative of Michael Moore.

strangelet on April 16, 2009 at 3:37 PM

I can think of a few exceptions, like perhaps FACTS.

carbon_footprint on April 16, 2009 at 3:39 PM

get real.
This guy is just exact ideological photo negative of Michael Moore.

strangelet on April 16, 2009 at 3:37 PM

Really? let’s see your proof! let me see him lying on camera! Micheal Moore has been caught editing and lying on camera more times than I can count. I have not seen John proven a liar one single time. let me see your proof! liar…

Kaptain Amerika on April 16, 2009 at 3:39 PM

Ziegler isn’t Moore’s alter-ego. He’s got a very real message for journalists.

Moore is fun to watch. I loved his original film about Detroit. I even liked Sicko. He’s an entertainer with a documentarian twist, as he used to admit before he started diving into politics for real. I don’t know if he’s still quite so honest.

But they aren’t similar, even in purpose.

AnninCA on April 16, 2009 at 3:41 PM

The same whining trolls will squeal like stuck pigs if they are banned from a private web site–swearing their right to freedom speech has been violated.

Christien on April 16, 2009 at 3:41 PM

Where the HELL are his Mirandas?!?!

Blacksmith on April 16, 2009 at 3:41 PM

Reality check: Ziegler criticizes Couric as being advocacy instead of journalism, but he’s doing exactly the same thing. More importantly, that’s USC’s private property and they can eject anyone they want. (And, yes, that location is within the school grounds of a private university, not out in public space.) Would it be nice if they held themselves to a higher standard than that legally required? Certainly. But Ziegler was being obnoxious and refused to leave private property, so I don’t see where those who believe in property rights get any cause to be outraged by USC’s actions. We cheered NYU’s assertion of its property rights against leftists and blamed the victims of police brutality for not being smart enough to keep their mouths shut and act respectfully towards an officer. USC security was remarkably patient with Ziegler’s need to dominate the conversation with his ideology, and just because we might agree with that ideology doesn’t make him any less of a jerk than a lefty doing the same thing.

calbear on April 16, 2009 at 3:42 PM

As Ace says, we now have two clearly separate classes.

jimmy the notable on April 16, 2009 at 3:20 PM

Wheat, meet chaff.

Um. Can’t wait for the day that they arrest me on the permitted sidewalk I pray on outside the local Planned Parenthood baby killing factory. If he’s an extremist, I’m confirmed.

Mommypundit on April 16, 2009 at 3:42 PM

Oh, man, he should have started screaming “don’t tase me bro” and every college student on campus would have run to his rescue.

Sue on April 16, 2009 at 3:43 PM

The same whining trolls will squeal like stuck pigs if they are banned from a private web site–swearing their right to freedom speech has been violated.

Christien on April 16, 2009 at 3:41 PM

That conversation happens here a lot.

Mommypundit on April 16, 2009 at 3:43 PM

Moore is fun to watch. I loved his original film about Detroit.

That’s the one about how GM shouldn’t be so concerned about the bottom line, right?

calbear on April 16, 2009 at 3:43 PM

Journalism is weak on the West Coast. I used to be involved personally in that area. There just aren’t a lot of good J-schools out here.

But trust me, it’s not Annenberg, for sure. They turn out idiots who basically feed off of private funds, mostly Republican.

Which is why this is especially rich.

AnninCA on April 16, 2009 at 3:43 PM

If this was instead, CNN standing there interviewing people on a public right-of-way……well you know the outcome would have been different. The bottom line for me is this: for every single one of these “mistakes” the Lefties make, such as this one, “an angel rings a bell” or whatever that phrase was from “Christmas Story” – in other words, one more fence-sitting independent moves off the fence and moves to the conservative side. One by one…………2012 is coming and The Messiah will be back on the mean streets of Chi-Town selling crack with Rezko and Rev. Wright……….

Cinday Blackburn on April 16, 2009 at 3:43 PM

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