Spainmas a bust

posted at 8:48 am on April 16, 2009 by Ed Morrissey

Earlier this week, news that Spain intended to prosecute Bush administration officials for torture at Gitmo had the Left all atwitter, in the same way that they buzzed about frog-marching Karl Rove out of the White House during the Plame investigation.  It turns out that Spain was a lot less enthusiastic than they were.  Spain’s Attorney General threw a large bucket of cold water on Spainmas, recommending that the country drop the whole matter:

Spanish prosecutors will recommend against opening an investigation into whether six Bush administration officials sanctioned torture against terror suspects at Guantanamo Bay, the country’s attorney-general said Thursday.

Candido Conde-Pumpido said the case against the high-ranking U.S. officials — including former U.S. Attorney-General Alberto Gonzales — was without merit because the men were not present when the alleged torture took place.

“If one is dealing with a crime of mistreatment of prisoners of war, the complaint should go against those who physically carried it out,” Conde-Pumpido said in a breakfast meeting with journalists. He said a trial of the men would have turned Spain’s National Court “into a plaything” to be used for political ends.

Spain likes to consider itself omnipotent in criminal matters.  They have the notion that they can apply “universal justice” by trying people for crimes committed outside of their own sovereignty.  That’s a tremendously arrogant notion, one that challenges American sovereignty in this case.  We declared our independence from European oversight 233 years ago, and we don’t answer to Spanish courts.  The proper channel for issues concerning public officials between two sovereign nations is diplomatic, not prosecutorial.

Conde-Pumpido didn’t decline the case on those grounds, however.  He just saw that the issue was political, not criminal, and that Spain wanted to grandstand for some popularity.  He pointed out that the proper forum for complaint in this case was the US courts, not a Spanish judicial panel.  Conde-Pumpido wants the original judge recused from the complaint as well, in order to make sure that this moves no farther through the system.

Douglas Feith, one of the potential “defendants”, called this a “national insult,” and he’s right.  Only those who don’t believe in American sovereignty and independence would cheer this attempt to make Spain the arbiter of American action.  The judge could still order the prosecution, although with this recommendation it’s unlikely.  If Spain moves forward, the Obama administration must defend American sovereignty by imposing stiff diplomatic consequences for this national insult.


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Somehow I don’t picture Spain when I think of justice. Actually, I don’t think they are even close to being on the top 1,000 places where justice is done regularly.

kybowexar on April 16, 2009 at 8:50 AM

If Spain moves forward, the Obama administration must defend American sovereignty by imposing stiff diplomatic consequences for this national insult.

Fat chance of that happening.

MarkTheGreat on April 16, 2009 at 8:51 AM

“the Obama administration must defend American sovereignty by imposing stiff diplomatic consequences for this national insult”

I hope you’re not holding your breath.

KS Rex on April 16, 2009 at 8:52 AM

If Spain moves forward, the Obama administration must defend American sovereignty by imposing stiff diplomatic consequences for this national insult.

Fat chance of that happening.

MarkTheGreat on April 16, 2009 at 8:51 AM

Yup, if Spain moves forward on this Obama is most likely to do everything in his power to prove that the French are not the only people on earth capable of surrendering in under .02 seconds.

doriangrey on April 16, 2009 at 8:54 AM

20% unemployment in Spain and the left holds them up as role model.

rob verdi on April 16, 2009 at 8:54 AM

Isn’t Spain the country that murdered millions of Indians in North/South America during the 1500-1800′s? Perhaps we should have sent our Gitmo guards to them for training, or something. OK, just kidding on the suggestion…..

DL13 on April 16, 2009 at 8:57 AM

Isn’t Spain the country that murdered millions of Indians in North/South America during the 1500-1800’s? Perhaps we should have sent our Gitmo guards to them for training, or something. OK, just kidding on the suggestion…..

Two words: Spanish Inquisition

Yeah, justice is not exactly the priority in Spain…

mjk on April 16, 2009 at 9:02 AM

Well, if they come for the former president – will they send their navy for him?

That worked out great in the past.

kybowexar on April 16, 2009 at 9:03 AM

When Spain prosecutes Castro, and members of his regime, for actual crimes committed against Spanish citizens, and property, since 1959, then, and only then, maybe, can they even consider prosecution of anyone else not a citizen of Spain.

coldwarrior on April 16, 2009 at 9:03 AM

Spain sure has a lot of nerve for this stunt,
trying to haul the USA into court over Gitmo!!

And,if Europe is ever in a bind again,I say by-pass
Spain!!

Nuts!!!!!!!!!!!!!

canopfor on April 16, 2009 at 9:03 AM

Two words: Spanish Inquisition

Yeah, justice is not exactly the priority in Spain…

mjk on April 16, 2009 at 9:02 AM

“NOBODY expects the Spanish Inquisition! Our chief weapon is surprise…surprise and fear…fear and surprise…. Our two weapons are fear and surprise…and ruthless efficiency…. Our *three* weapons are fear, surprise, and ruthless efficiency…and an almost fanatical devotion to the Pope…. Our *four*…no… *Amongst* our weapons…. Amongst our weaponry…are such elements as fear, surprise…. I’ll come in again.”

coldwarrior on April 16, 2009 at 9:05 AM

“NOBODY expects the Spanish Inquisition! Our chief weapon is surprise…surprise and fear…fear and surprise…. Our two weapons are fear and surprise…and ruthless efficiency…. Our *three* weapons are fear, surprise, and ruthless efficiency…and an almost fanatical devotion to the Pope…. Our *four*…no… *Amongst* our weapons…. Amongst our weaponry…are such elements as fear, surprise…. I’ll come in again.”

coldwarrior on April 16, 2009 at 9:05 AM

Heh. I was expecting that from one of you.

mjk on April 16, 2009 at 9:06 AM

but, but, but…. Supreme Court jester, I mean judge, Ruth Bader Ginsburg said we needed to incorporate international law….. sovereignty of this country is being attacked… oh wait… I’m paranoid, I forgot.

MNDavenotPC on April 16, 2009 at 9:09 AM

Vice Prez Bozo said they would be tested…. cripes, not 3 months in and already he’s trashed us, apologized for our “arrogance”, mortgaged our national future into the abyss, weakened our military preparedness, kowtowed to our enemies, “mulled over” a response to pirates (better late than never), skipped a few tea parties where he was one of the “guests of dishonor”, and now our actual sovereignty could be at stake. Wait and see. It’s now or never for us…. when’s the next tea party? It can’t come soon enough!

HomeoftheBrave on April 16, 2009 at 9:09 AM

Spain needs another Franco – stat!

OldEnglish on April 16, 2009 at 9:13 AM

Let’s recap:

WWI: The US goes to Europe to save Europeans from themselves.

WWII: The US goes to Europe to save Europeans from themselves.

The Cold War: The US goes to Europe to save Europeans from themselves.

Now assume someone attacks Spain. Who’s listed first on their speed dial?

Looks like Senor Candido is Spain’s voice of reason.

perroviejo on April 16, 2009 at 9:13 AM

Cowardice is what elected the current Spanish administration. Chicken Little crying “the sky is falling” would have more credibility.

volsense on April 16, 2009 at 9:16 AM

Candido Conde-Pumpido said the case against the high-ranking U.S. officials — including former U.S. Attorney-General Alberto Gonzales — was without merit because the men were not present when the alleged torture took place.

Even when these idiots have to backtrack, they make it sound like they know what they’re doing. Hey I’ve got a great idea; let’s drop all the Gitmo detainees off in Barcelona. Because in Spain human rights are what’s most important.

Tommy_G on April 16, 2009 at 9:16 AM

I don’t care if Spain doesn’t go forward with these idiotic and offensive prosecutions. The damage has already been done. Spain is an enemy of the US. Period. This attack of theirs on US sovereignty is an act of war, so far as I’m concerned. The only move that would change my attitude about them is if they prosecuted those trying to bring these cases. I don’t care what the charges would be. They can something up just as was tried, here. And I am not being hyperbolic. This sort of attack on our sovereignty is an act of war.

progressoverpeace on April 16, 2009 at 9:23 AM

Well, at least Spain is still the model for the new Green Economy!

hawksruleva on April 16, 2009 at 9:24 AM

perroviejo on April 16, 2009 at 9:13 AM

Well put. Now we go around saving Muslims from themselves.

Gulf War: The US goes to a Muslim country to save them from other Muslims

Iraq War: The US goes to a Muslim country to save them from other Muslims

Our brewing war in Darfor, Samolia: The US goes to a Muslim country to save them from other Muslims

Future war with Iran: The US goes to a Muslim country to save them from other Muslims

Mojave Mark on April 16, 2009 at 9:24 AM

Spain is stupid for even bringing this up. Especially since we have half a billion in gold from a galleon sitting in lock up making it’s way through the US federal courts. Go ahead–piss off our government, Spain will never see a single penny of that fortune returned. Not that it should anyway–it was recovered in international waters.

robblefarian on April 16, 2009 at 9:25 AM

Me thinks,Spain forgot,

`Are you with us
or against us`!

canopfor on April 16, 2009 at 9:25 AM

If Spain continues on this madness then Obama must recall the ambassador. This is very serious. Or at the very least the Attorney General should open a grand jury investigation into how the Spanish government deals with the Basque terrorists.

If the Spanish Army or the national police arrest a terrorist I am sure it would be enlightening to the whole world to know how the Spanish conduct their interrogations.

Jdripper on April 16, 2009 at 9:26 AM

There are good Spaniards. It’s too bad that effete little Barca-loving Mr. Bean look-alike is PM. I hate ETA, but it would not the worst thing if they sent him a message and it could put the Popular Party back in power.

PimFortuynsGhost on April 16, 2009 at 9:26 AM

I don’t think it would be a surrender if Obama allowed Spain to do this. It would be a triumph for him.

OneGyT on April 16, 2009 at 9:30 AM

If Spain moves forward, the Obama administration must defend American sovereignty by imposing stiff diplomatic consequences for this national insult.

Ha! This assumes that Obama cares about American sovereignty.

Buy Danish on April 16, 2009 at 9:38 AM

I saw someone of TV suggest we boycott Spainish products.

Like what for instance – I thought to myself?

What the hell does Spain export?

jake-the-goose on April 16, 2009 at 9:40 AM

Jason Leopold could not be reached for comment. However he promised a statement within 24 working hours.

Del Dolemonte on April 16, 2009 at 9:43 AM

What the hell does Spain export?

jake-the-goose on April 16, 2009 at 9:40 AM

Fly?

coldwarrior on April 16, 2009 at 9:45 AM

Two words: Spanish Inquisition

Yeah, justice is not exactly the priority in Spain…

mjk on April 16, 2009 at 9:02 AM

Yes….the horror of the comfy pillow.

BobMbx on April 16, 2009 at 9:47 AM

Only those who don’t believe in American sovereignty and independence would cheer this attempt to make Spain the arbiter of American action.

“Only those who don’t believe in American sovereignty and independence” pretty much describes the entire open-borders, “we are citizens of the world” Obama administration.

AZCoyote on April 16, 2009 at 9:52 AM

Fly?

coldwarrior on April 16, 2009 at 9:45 AM

Ok I confess – I don’t understand?

jake-the-goose on April 16, 2009 at 9:55 AM

Why should anyone be surprised by European arrogance, whether it comes from Spain, France, or Russia? These are the real colonialists and imperialists who have no regrets about the slaughter they have unleashed on the world.

They should worry about their own turf, since the continent is well on its way to becoming a Muslim conquest.

EMD on April 16, 2009 at 9:56 AM

Yes….the horror of the comfy pillow.

BobMbx on April 16, 2009 at 9:47 AM

Please, please, please tell me you actually know about the actual Spanish Inquisition. Otherwise, I weep for the history programs at all schools.

mjk on April 16, 2009 at 9:57 AM

Let’s boycott Spanish rice.

In the world, spain is going to have to succed and grow to elevate itself up to be worthy of being called irrelevant.

seven on April 16, 2009 at 9:57 AM

Spain belongs to the muslims, right? At least that’s what they say.

I think Spain should MYOB. This is just more nonsense from the loony left. Grasping for straws is what it’s called.

Frances on April 16, 2009 at 9:57 AM

Teddy kicked the crap out of them at San Juan Hill in ’98 and if they want some more just come on back or shut up.

Herb on April 16, 2009 at 9:57 AM

Yes….the horror of the comfy pillow.

BobMbx on April 16, 2009 at 9:47 AM

Please, please, please tell me you actually know about the actual Spanish Inquisition. Otherwise, I weep for the history programs at all schools.

mjk on April 16, 2009 at 9:57 AM

MJK – you are worried about his (or her) knowledge of history? I wonder about his (or her) English comprehension skills. I think the comment itself clarifies a lack of historical acumen, but a lot of hysterical nonsense.

kybowexar on April 16, 2009 at 10:04 AM

jake-the-goose on April 16, 2009 at 9:55 AM

As in “Spanish Fly.” :-)

coldwarrior on April 16, 2009 at 10:05 AM

Considering Spain’s own record, maybe it would be best if they let this quietly drop.

landshark on April 16, 2009 at 10:06 AM

España, ¿por qué no te callas?

[Translation: Hey Spain, why don't you just shut up?]

newton on April 16, 2009 at 10:08 AM

Countdown to Obama bowing and apologizing to Spanish muslims in 5…4…3…

SKYFOX on April 16, 2009 at 10:08 AM

Considering the fact that too many wanted out of Spain in the first place… you know, all of those countries who fought for their independence a long time ago… and Cuba… and the Philippines…

Of course, Puerto Rico, too, but that didn’t amount to much…

newton on April 16, 2009 at 10:10 AM

jake-the-goose on April 16, 2009 at 9:55 AM

As in “Spanish Fly.” :-)

coldwarrior on April 16, 2009 at 10:05 AM

Education in the finer points of life seems to be lacking, these days. :)

OldEnglish on April 16, 2009 at 10:11 AM

What the hell does Spain export?

jake-the-goose on April 16, 2009 at 9:40 AM

Believe it or not, we buy nuclear fuel from them, and also airplanes.

Del Dolemonte on April 16, 2009 at 10:12 AM

Spanish Inquisition 2009

/moral authority

maverick muse on April 16, 2009 at 10:14 AM

Someone should tell the Spanish that the The Treaty of Tordesillas no longer applies.

OldEnglish on April 16, 2009 at 10:14 AM

OldEnglish on April 16, 2009 at 10:14 AM

Usually I find that one “the” is sufficient. Today I decided to be different.

OldEnglish on April 16, 2009 at 10:16 AM

Then never gave up the notion that they are Grand Inquisitors I see.

TheBigOldDog on April 16, 2009 at 10:17 AM

What the hell does Spain export?

jake-the-goose on April 16,2009 at 9:40AM

jake-the-goose:

Speaking of exports,Spain should of been hauled
off to court!!

I give you exibit ‘A’.

The Spanish Flu of 1918!

And there talk’n about justice,give my a break!!

canopfor on April 16, 2009 at 10:17 AM

Spain is stupid for even bringing this up. Especially since we have half a billion in gold from a galleon sitting in lock up making it’s way through the US federal courts. Go ahead–piss off our government, Spain will never see a single penny of that fortune returned. Not that it should anyway–it was recovered in international waters.

robblefarian on April 16, 2009 at 9:25 AM

My cousin is completely convinced these two issues are tied at the hip.

TheBigOldDog on April 16, 2009 at 10:21 AM

Isn’t Spain the country that murdered millions of Indians in North/South America during the 1500-1800’s? Perhaps we should have sent our Gitmo guards to them for training, or something. OK, just kidding on the suggestion…..

DL13 on April 16, 2009 at 8:57 AM

Guess from whom they stole all that Gold and Silver mentioned earlier. And they actually still have the nerve to claim it’s theirs despite being found in international waters by Treasure Hunters. I guess they figured they killed for it then, so why stop now?

TheBigOldDog on April 16, 2009 at 10:24 AM

I’d like to see a study done that compares the treatment of prisoners at Gitmo to the slaughter of thousands of Aztecs that occured when the Spaniards first set foot in Mexico.

Better stick to torturing and killing bulls, heh Spain?

fogw on April 16, 2009 at 10:25 AM

Gonzales sentenced to The Comfy Chair.

The Monster on April 16, 2009 at 10:29 AM

To quote Andrew Jackson

“He has made a law, now let’s go see him try to enforce it!”

Hilts on April 16, 2009 at 10:33 AM

Sorry Spain, no more Cheetos for me.

Ted Torgerson on April 16, 2009 at 10:34 AM

What is Spain’s compelling interest anyway? Were any of the people tortured Spanish citizens?

Kafir on April 16, 2009 at 10:36 AM

Since Franco isn’t calling the shots anymore, who really cares?

You know, Franco called the shots for all those guys. That book you are reading: Yes I Can, by Barack Obama. It should be called, Yes I Can, If Generalissimo Franco Says I Can. Franco used to call the shots for all of those guys.

Leopold Stotch on April 16, 2009 at 10:45 AM

This is precisely why I say EUCOM (European Command) should be IMMEDIATELY DISMANTLED. Those people have a government: make them fend for themselves, from now on. Redistribute EUCOM forces and assets unequally between CENTCOM (Central Command, which handles the Middle East) and AFRICOM (our newest joint command). That, and radically scaling back NATO participation & funding would send them a clear message, too. Hey, maybe the Spanish Foreign Legion and the “Armada” could defend Europe? Europe is a waste of American taxpayer money.

Virus-X on April 16, 2009 at 10:52 AM

TheBigOldDog on April 16, 2009 at 10:21 AM

I’m not completely convinced, but I think it might have an influence. Also, my bad–it’s not totally gold, but mostly silver.

robblefarian on April 16, 2009 at 11:02 AM

How does one go about telling the Spanish government “Go fuck yourselves”.

GarandFan on April 16, 2009 at 11:07 AM

I hereby decree that we the people of the United States do, in fully moral and righteous indignation, condemn and indict Torqemada for his role in engineering the Spanish Inquisition We also seek to try General Franciso Franco for his role in the deaths of 150,000 Spaniards.

We would like to, however, resolve that Penelope is quite swell. Keep more of that coming please…gracias.

Huckabye-Romney on April 16, 2009 at 11:11 AM

How does one go about telling the Spanish government “Go f#ck yourselves”.

GarandFan on April 16, 2009 at 11:07 AM

Recalling our ambassador would be a good start … but our Precedent was probably excited about working with the Spanish to get the prosecutions rolling, as he is on the other side, too.

progressoverpeace on April 16, 2009 at 11:13 AM

If Spain moves forward, the Obama administration must defend American sovereignty by imposing stiff diplomatic consequences for this national insult.

RIIIIGGGGHHHHHTTTT. Obama would open the justice department & all necessary agencies to Spanish investigators with Pelosi,Reid & Co. volunteering to hold the doors open for them.

portlandon on April 16, 2009 at 11:13 AM

How does one go about telling the Spanish government “Go f#ck yourselves”.

GarandFan on April 16, 2009 at 11:07 AM

¡Vaya tornillo usted mismo!

portlandon on April 16, 2009 at 11:14 AM

Since this is a non-starter, Spain will be sending Alberto Gonzales a blanket covered in the smallpox virus. Postage due.

Mr. D on April 16, 2009 at 11:26 AM

I think it would be fun to go to war against Spain.

Blake on April 16, 2009 at 11:29 AM

Maybe if we gave Puerto Rico back they would leave us alone.

Amphipolis on April 16, 2009 at 11:31 AM

I think it would be fun to go to war against Spain.

Only for a day or two.

fogw on April 16, 2009 at 11:32 AM

I think it would be fun to go to war against Spain.

Blake on April 16, 2009 at 11:29 AM

Teddy Roosevelt had a grand time doing it.

Mr. D on April 16, 2009 at 11:35 AM

fogw on April 16, 2009 at 11:32 AM

Mr. D on April 16, 2009 at 11:35 AM

Only if I get first dibs on Ibiza…

coldwarrior on April 16, 2009 at 11:46 AM

This is embarrassing posturing by some spanish pols on the make.

Other than that it is utterly and completely irrelevant.

Nothing was ever going to come of this except to a) make a few lefties chuckle and b) get a few right wingers hackles up.

Ares on April 16, 2009 at 12:07 PM

Other than that it is utterly and completely irrelevant.

Ares on April 16, 2009 at 12:07 PM

Such a direct attack on US sovereignty is anything but irrelevant. It is an act of war, whether people want to acknowledge it, or not.

progressoverpeace on April 16, 2009 at 12:12 PM

Candido Conde-Pumpido

GREATEST NAME EVER.

Kenrod on April 16, 2009 at 12:16 PM

Spain likes to consider itself omnipotent in criminal matters. They have the notion that they can apply “universal justice” by trying people for crimes committed outside of their own sovereignty.

True, but nobody complained when General Pinochet was extradited to Spain on “war crimes” charges in 1998. (Chile has no extradition treaty with Spain.) That set a precedent for over-excited magistrates to extend their jurisdiction beyond sovereign borders. President Clinton should have objected to it at the time, but didn’t.

aengus on April 16, 2009 at 12:22 PM

The judge could still order the prosecution, although with this recommendation it’s unlikely. If Spain moves forward, the Obama administration must defend American sovereignty by imposing stiff diplomatic consequences for this national insult.

Yeah, right. Wont lose any sleep waiting for that to happen.

Mike D. on April 16, 2009 at 1:07 PM

They never gave up the notion that they are Grand Inquisitors I see.

TheBigOldDog on April 16, 2009 at 10:17 AM

+1

Seems that in the long run the Falangists lost after all. A recurring theme in Europe…from one extreme to the other.

I doubt if Franco would have had troops in Iraq in the first place, but if he had and they had bombed Madrid, I don’t think they’d have pulled out.

Dr. ZhivBlago on April 16, 2009 at 1:09 PM

Just to throw this out there as someone studying International Law – universal sovereignty is the belief that one person/group/junta’s crimes are so against human rights and humanity that htey can be prosecuted by any country. I think we did similar when we nabbed Norriega and I think we also prosecuted Taylor. Of course THOSE guys deserved what they got while hte left feels the uncontrollable urge to prosecute all BUsh people

Defector01 on April 16, 2009 at 1:33 PM

Defector01 on April 16, 2009 at 1:33 PM

Noriega was charged with 10 counts of drug trafficking, conspiracy, money laundering and aiding and abetting violent crimes. Some of these were committed against US persons, the US still having possession of the Panama Canal Zone at the time.

Charles Taylor’s crimes in Liberia were indeed crimes against humanity, as were Jerry Rawling’s crimes in Ghana. The Rwanda atrocities speak for themselves. As do those in Darfur.

What Spain is attempting to do (or at least one of its prosecutors) is not at a level that a rational observer could construe as crimes against humanity.

coldwarrior on April 16, 2009 at 2:19 PM

Justice from the people who brought you the Inquisition.
I can’t boycott their products because I have never seen or heard of any. The entire EU should be boycotted because through the VAT tax the EU has violated all trade and tariff treaties. Of course the EU also has no products save Nissan and Dodge and those crappy airplanes. Airbusts?
Indicting our leaders is an act of war and a violation of our sovereignty. Give them some of what Dresden got. Firebomb Madrid.

Jerricho68 on April 16, 2009 at 2:26 PM

Don’t they have someone in their own government to prosecute? I mean really, what country has the “nads” to do this?

pjean on April 16, 2009 at 5:14 PM

Wow, wow. Am I the only Spaniard here?

First: Conde-Pumpido is probably the most partisan Attorney General -not the maximum judicial authority- in our Democratic history, abolutely leftist, pro-socialist, and pro-government. Some of his recent greatest hits include letting terrorist leaders out of jail, persecuting the Spanish conservative party charging them with feeble corruption charges, and stopping corruption investigations on the socialist government. Luckily for the US, our President is willing so much to be friends with Obama that put a stop this nonsense investigation.

Second: Spain is the most antiamerican country in Europe. Yes, more than France. You cannot imagine how popular this investigation was. Bush is the devil here. Obama is truly the Messiah. Expect more like this.

Third: Do not believe for one moment that one whack of a judge speaks for all of us Spaniards. So please, do not call me an Aztec murderer, or remember me that Nobody Expects The Spanish Inquisition! I am absolutely pro US. But just a little perspective: 1.157 people have been executed in the US since 1.977. In 250 years, the Spanish Insquisition killed at most 5.000 people.

Fourth: There are lots of thing to criticize Spain for (our surrender to Politicla Correctness, our concessions towards enemies of the West, our sympathies for such thugs and ignoramus as Hugo Chávez, Fidel Castro, or Evo Morales). Do that. Do not criticize our past, or say Franco did better. I prefer the democracy I live in (stinky as it is).

Fifth: No need to bring Franco to trial in the US. We already tried to do that here, and most of his supporters. But they were dead (AND THIS IS NOT A JOKE).

Sixth: No, Spain does not believe it is entitled to universal justice. Spain believes it has some kind universal jurisdiction for all “crimes” it can charge only on pro-Western governments. We will never bring charges against Castro, against Kim Jong Il, or against Iraq. I wonder if we would ever bring them against Obama whatever he did.

In short: bash Spain for what it is, not for what it was; do not believe for a second that Conde-Pumpido has done this out of greatnes or love for the US; and expect more friendly actions from a country -and a government- in love with President Obama.

BTW, Having the most anti-US country in Europe admire President Teleprompter so much should give you something to think about …

Rillot on April 16, 2009 at 5:54 PM

When I think of Spain, it reminds me of a Chiguagua dog. Too much bark, no enough bite and usually hides behind the big American sheepdog.

El Coqui on April 16, 2009 at 7:47 PM