Tax Day and Tea Parties: The writing on the wall

posted at 8:48 am on April 15, 2009 by Ed Morrissey

It’s Tax Day, and across America, tens of thousands of Americans plan to attend Tea Party rallies.  Our friend Andrew Malcolm notes the apparent irony of a Gallup poll that shows Americans more satisfied than historical norms about the taxes they pay.  However, Gallup’s poll relates to what we pay today — and not what we’ll pay in the future:

The new survey purports that a plurality of Americans (48%) think they’re paying just about the right amount in taxes. Traditionally in American society, just the right amount in taxes is zero.

But now taxpayers are like Goldilocks on her third bowl of borrowed bear porridge. It’s just right.

A slightly smaller group that apparently drinks bottled water (46%) thinks taxes are too high.

No, really.

On this annual day of financial reckoning with the Washington crowd of talking suits spending way more money than we’re all paying combined, more Americans apparently think they’re getting their money’s worth.

Perhaps the Gallup poll does reflect the future after all.  If 48% believe that their taxes are just right, it might be because that’s the exact same percentage that will pay zero in the near future, according to Barack Obama’s tax policies.  With Obama’s emphasis on refundables, 48.7% of Americans will wind up paying no income tax at all.  For them, zero is the right amount, and they have no reason to be unhappy … yet.

Unfortunately, in a short period of time, even those people will have to start paying taxes, and not in small amounts:

The Obama administration will be hard-pressed to avoid raising taxes on the middle class, according to economists crunching federal budget numbers in the lead-up to tax return day — today, April 15.

President Obama’s proposed changes to the tax code, combined with exploding entitlement costs, will lead to ever-growing debt, according to independent estimates. The big question for Obama and his economic team will be whether he can meet the rising costs with increased tax revenue only from small slices of the electorate. …

“You just simply can’t tax the rich enough to make this all up,” said Martin A. Sullivan, a former economic aide in the Reagan administration who said he backed Obama last fall.

“Especially just for getting the budget to a sustainable level, there needs to be a broad-based tax increase,” said Sullivan, now a contributing editor at Tax Analysts publications. “If you want to do healthcare on top of that, almost certainly, it just makes [a middle-class tax increase] all the more certain.”

What’s the debt they’re discussing?  Time to break out the projected deficit chart again:

At some point, we have to start paying these bills, and when we do, it will hammer the middle class.

That’s what drives the Tea Parties — not taxes today, but all of the spending that will eventually require crushing taxes to resolve.  The Obama administration plans a spending spree unlike anything outside of world wars in our history, and wants to sell a fantasy that only the rich have to pay for it.  It’s ridiculous on its face.  The amounts are staggeringly high, and even 100% confiscation wouldn’t begin to cover it.

We will try to get Tea Party updates during the Ed Morrissey Show today, starting at 3 pm ET.  Don’t miss a minute.

Update: Michelle has the history of Tea Parties, and notes that it all began with Porkulus.


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sethstorm:

I know people who voted for Obama for one reason: they think they will get free stuff. They think they will get money in the mail, free health care, free everything and anything. When and if that does not show up, they won’t vote for your guy anymore. That is the problem inherent in Obama’s policy. He has made too many promises to too many people. These folks that you are so snotty about are the people who will have to support those programs. If more and more people get fed up, then what happens to Obama’s base?

Terrye on April 15, 2009 at 7:54 PM

I went to a tea party in Huntsville, Alabama today. There was approx. 2000 to 3000 people. Everyone was calm and respectful. The speakers (local radio hosts and candidates for state office) all stressed that this was a non-partisan event. It really burns me up to see the liberals all foaming at the mouth that these parties are nothing but un-informed, ill-mannered, right-wing whakos. Trust me, these parties had FAR MORE CLASS THAN THE LEFT’S DEMONSTRATIONS we’ve all seen. There was no burning effigies of Obama, hatred of liberals, destruction of property, etc. that we always get treated to when the left has a demonstration. So the left can just stuff it!

KickandSwimMom on April 15, 2009 at 7:55 PM

I went to the local Tea Party in Ventura CA, about 2000 people, I would guess but most people that drove by were honking their horns in support.
The Homeland Security Report was read as was the preamble to the Constitution and the first part of the Declaration of Independence. Everyone I saw was well mannered even through verbal attacks by O’bunghole supporters.

nelsonknows on April 15, 2009 at 8:00 PM

Terrye on April 15, 2009 at 7:54 PM

The irony is that some of the students there are out-of-state from the Chicago area. It’s not just one or two, but a sizable chunk. Until recently, it was a party school of sorts – with locals cleaning up after the mess.

These same snotty folk have destroyed war history and consigned a few bricks to an obscure museum. They’ve given carte blanche to students ruining the community. The only thing they haven’t done lately is riot. If there were any folks who actually paid the $40k+ to go there, they are a very rare breed.

It was just a large festival of sheep that couldn’t figure out traffic laws.

sethstorm on April 15, 2009 at 8:19 PM

Maybe these tea parties can be a first step to create a real American Liberal Party. Liberal in the real meaning of the word: Freedom for the individual and equal rights and opportunities for all. Exactly as it was meant in the constitution.
And before everyone here jumps on me…..
Liberal, in the classic meaning, stands for freedom of thinking, freedom of speech and power and equality for the people. It’s a shame that the word “liberal” in the USA has been downgraded to some filthy word, because the socialists misused it. Real liberalism actually stands up against socialism and stands for great values and support of the constitution.
The first act of freedom and democracy and starting a republic for the people was accomplished by the French.
The three important words in their revolution were:
Freedom, Equality and Brotherhood.
All great constitutions in all Democratic en free republican countries in the world are based on this. Isn’t it time for America to get back to that level and all be Americans again, fighting and believing the same cause?
Do we however have a real leader who honestly could stand up for us?

Ladywolfnl on April 15, 2009 at 8:21 PM

Terrye on April 15, 2009 at 7:54 PM

In continuation:

I’m not expecting handouts – I’d rather be able to work without having some business threaten with outsourced/offshored labor. I’d like to see some of the business community actually step up and put their money where their mouth is on taxes. Not just say they would hire domestics and then say they could only find H1-b’s, but actually being able to say “lower the taxes and we can start hiring”.

sethstorm on April 15, 2009 at 8:23 PM

Ladywolfnl on April 15, 2009 at 8:21 PM

Find a relevant name that would mean the same thing.

See if it’s not taken and let that be what people call themselves.

sethstorm on April 15, 2009 at 8:48 PM

These folks that you are so snotty about are the people who will have to support those programs. Terrye on April 15, 2009 at 7:54 PM

Ahh yes, the same old myth that conservatives pay the taxes to support the lazy liberals. Perhaps I can direct you to some Data?

“The report shows that of the 32 states (and the District of Columbia) that are “winners” — receiving more in federal spending than they pay in federal taxes — 76% are Red States that voted for George Bush in 2000. Indeed, 17 of the 20 (85%) states receiving the most federal spending per dollar of federal taxes paid are Red States…In contrast, of the 16 states that are “losers” — receiving less in federal spending than they pay in federal taxes — 69% are Blue States that voted for Al Gore in 2000. Indeed, 11 of the 14 (79%) of the states receiving the least federal spending per dollar of federal taxes paid are Blue States…Two states — Florida and Oregon (coincidentally, the two closest states in the 2000 Presidential election) — received $1.00 in federal spending for each $1.00 in federal taxes paid. “

maleman on April 15, 2009 at 8:52 PM

Just got back from the gathering here in ‘Podunkville’, NM.

Had at least 300 people there for the first hour (4-5PM) Maybe… Maybe 400 there when I left at 5:30 People were trickling in as they got off work.

Not too bad for a place that has an official population of about 7,000, but not an earthshaking attendance. Mostly ‘old folks’ in their 60s-80s. Maybe 10% were in their late teens through mid 20s. Another 10% were kids, some of whom actually seemed to enjoy being there. Very few ‘middle agers’…. But I imagine most of them were either still at work or at their kid’s soccer and baseball games.

Oh, and 10 uniformed law enforcement people. (Who I thanked for bravely keeping control over a bunch of dangerous extremists like me. Took some of them a couple of seconds to figure out what I was joshing them about, but all but one laughed, and one even play punched me on my shoulder. Oddly, the representative from the State Police was not at all amused by my jest. His only comment was “Just don’t take MY picture.”

(I didn’t tell him “too late”… Telephoto from across the park, half an hour ago.”)

LegendHasIt on April 15, 2009 at 8:53 PM

sethstorm,
NO NEVER,,,,the socialists made a smear on the word Liberal and I want to have it back in the right context as it was meant to be !!!!

Ladywolfnl on April 15, 2009 at 8:53 PM

In Athens GA I thought maybe 50 tops would so up in the very left leaning southern college town. Let’s try between 300-500 hundred assembled at the old arch on campus with thousands and thousands of people honking showing support since they had to work and could not show up. Unlike the left, who gets paid to protest, which is another reason why this is a huge victory.

The Tea Parties were and are a huge success because people organized themselves and traded ideas through interpersonal dialogue from a local level to a national level…. all of which had the same messages and people don’t feel alone anymore. Also, the counter protesters were a flopping joke with their saxophones, congos, animal costumes, and misspelled signs… some of which were written backwards like they looked in the mirror to draw up their message, which did not matter because they had no message; sad…. quite sad indeed. I guess Soros did not send out enough checks for his army of useful idiots. I had to throw a Big Lebowski quote at the bums whose revolution is over… get a job sir;)…. besides being a professional protester.

This is only the beginning…… of the return of the sovereign individual and states rights. We have had enough of the Federal Government wiping their butts clean with our founding documents which protect us from them. I’m sure the Founders would rejoice that their brilliant work that many have died to protect is being used by Washington to wipe away lobster and shato brion.

This started in 2006 when states started to declare sovereignty under the 9th and 10th amendment. Fox News Conspiracy or the Rick Santelli Conspiracy?………. LOL.

PS please excuse the grammar and spelling as I am very excited about the changing political winds and the silent majority being silent no more:)

God Bless America

Watching_Cloward-Piven on April 15, 2009 at 9:02 PM

Just got in from ours in Richmond, VA. Estimates were around 5,000, even with the cold and rain. Ours was after work hours, so that may be the reason why so many showed up.

It was great to see such a wide assortment of individuals… even some people of color! It really inspired me to sense the enthusiasm and momentum that should make our efforts grow. I saw a local ABC television crew reporting, but none of the others. If today was any indication, the MSM won’t be able to ignore it for much longer.

behiker on April 15, 2009 at 9:05 PM

Everyone seems to forget that on 1/1/2011, without congress or President Obama lifting finger, our personal income taxes will have the greatest increase in history according to the WSJ. That is when the evil Bush’s tax cuts expire and the rates revert to those of 2001. The 10% rate will disappear thus the first rate is 15% and each of the other levels will increase about 2.5%; so a portion of everyone’s taxes will increase about 7.5%.

amr on April 15, 2009 at 9:08 PM

Behiker:
… even some people of color!

Does it matter? The USA should not think in colors anylonger I think.
Whether you’re white, black or purple….it shouldn’t matter.
And of course some black will vote for Obama and approve what ever he does. The same like most Asian immigrants will buy Toyota and Nissan instead of US made cars.
Does not mean that all Asians buy Asian cars and all Black people are that stupid to support against themselves….!!!
BTW…I’m writing using my wife’s log in name. I’m an alien resident…legal!!..from Europe…proud to be able being part of the great USA……and I drive JEEP !!!

Ladywolfnl on April 15, 2009 at 9:17 PM

Ladywolfnl on April 15, 2009 at 9:17 PM

No, it doesn’t matter to me at all. I was only making a reference to the fact that some in the MSM have tried to paint us as only whites. Some have actually said that these tea parties do not appeal to people of color. That’s the only reason I mentioned it. Didn’t mean to ruffle your feathers.

behiker on April 15, 2009 at 9:24 PM

Behiker, Don’t worry about ruffling my feathers…LOL
The left MSM is indeed trained to go that way. They like to devide the American people. I come from a socialist Europe, given away by Socialists to that “peace loving” religian. Europe….betrayed by the soscialists, and I will stand up for anything that could threaten the USA the same way.
The first thing a socialist government will do…raise taxes and keep people down that way !!! I saw it coming up in Europe from the 70-ies. America please be aware, whats happening ……

Ladywolfnl on April 15, 2009 at 9:30 PM

onlineanalyst on April 15, 2009 at 3:34 PM
It sounds like we could have been at the same rally. Are you in The People’s Republic of MD?

Laura in Maryland on April 15, 2009 at 6:27 PM

Nope, Pennsylvania (Fast Eddie Rendell’s bailiwick). Michelle Malkin even has a photos of our rally. It was a heartening surprise to see so many people out in that miserable weather.

onlineanalyst on April 15, 2009 at 9:45 PM

Another rally is already scheduled….ICE TEA on JULY 4th!

AnninCA on April 15, 2009 at 9:46 PM

4th of July….Lets make real fire works then…..and besides an ice tea I’d like a Mint Tulip with it then……..

Ladywolfnl on April 15, 2009 at 9:49 PM

Kudos to all the tea party attendees! Thanks for your support of the well-being of all Americans!

SheofTwoMinds on April 15, 2009 at 9:54 PM

Dear people, I was so impressed how you stood up today and how you people stand up anyhow for your country. Promise me one thing: Stand up for yourselves the same way at the next elections….

Ladywolfnl on April 15, 2009 at 9:59 PM

Little Carson City, Nevada had a showing of up to 3000 people and they were all very respectful. It was great to see this many people show up in cold, cloudy weather with a common goal of taking back our country. Lots of support from people driving through town. The big theme here….send Harry Reid back to Searchlight! My sentiments exactly.

antiquechick on April 15, 2009 at 10:18 PM

St Paul MN estimated crowd size 10,000

My slogan – ” Government: Stuck on Stupid – spending and borrowing are way to prosperity”

Favorite sign at the Tea Party

“Socialism smells like B.O.”

Dasher on April 15, 2009 at 10:19 PM

St Paul MN estimated crowd size 10,000
My slogan – ” Government: Stuck on Stupid – spending and borrowing are way to prosperity”

Favorite sign at the Tea Party

“Socialism smells like B.O.”

Dasher on April 15, 2009 at 10:19 PM

Nashville, TN estimated at 10,000

Fave sign: “I am NOT your ATM”

TN Mom on April 15, 2009 at 10:33 PM

Dang it, we aren’t getting enough coverage for this. We need some dancing smelly hippies and gay guys in drag to get people to notice us!

GoodBoy on April 15, 2009 at 10:48 PM

Goodboy,
You are so right, fortunately the left is now so busy attacking, that they give full credit, so at least that is reached………
The left could have said just one thing: “Oh well, only about 1 milion people, that doesn’t represents 300 milion Americans, and leave it by that!!!
Please people…start marketing the right way……come with parties like this towards elections…it might give an impact.
Another advise………don’t bring in comments of 9 year old children….that’s the kind of marketing that Hitler started……….and Obama did it too…………

Ladywolfnl on April 15, 2009 at 10:58 PM

Yeah, and I agree 100% with the Merkel government’s tax policies.

Dr. ZhivBlago on April 15, 2009 at 11:02 PM

Merkel has an progressive tax policy, which is honest to the lower incomes. The rates are discussable, but a flat tax will only make the rich richer and the poor more poor.
I’m an ex tax officer and know what I’m talking about.

Ladywolfnl on April 15, 2009 at 11:06 PM

Again; Real Liberalism means, Freedom of speech, equality and brotherhood………not 28 million dollar making a-holes on the radio getting more and more greedy and businesses taking advantage of people by paying 8 dollars an hour, who are actually making the money for, making full profit for the CEO’s and shareholders. It means freedom for every one and devided in a honest way. Not taking advantage of anyone…exactly where the constitution is about….. you want to deny that…….????!!!!

Ladywolfnl on April 15, 2009 at 11:13 PM

Dasher on April 15, 2009 at 10:19 PM

I’ll second that! Celebrating with my last Hopslam right now!
Some photo’s here. Note that these are from about 5:30, right after it started. Camera died right away, but by the end there were at least twice as many, organizers estimated 10,000

2ipa on April 15, 2009 at 11:29 PM

In the unlikely event that anyone cares HERE ARE PHOTOS of our local gathering.

LegendHasIt on April 15, 2009 at 11:35 PM

About 5,000 at peak in Dallas. A lot more attended local events away from downtown.

michaelo on April 15, 2009 at 11:37 PM

LegendHasIt on April 15, 2009 at 11:35 PM

I am enjoying everybody’s photos. Looked like you all were having fun. Loved the sign: If you’re not angry, you’re not paying taxes.

sherry on April 15, 2009 at 11:39 PM

Good pics LegendHasIt. Thank you. I care.. sniff..

GoodBoy on April 15, 2009 at 11:41 PM

BTW: You all know that I mean Mr Limbough…..who is one of the worst of all………….greed, pure greed.
McCain….gives away 28% of his income to charity…….that’s why I have would have voted on him….!!!! That’s a man !!!!

Ladywolfnl on April 15, 2009 at 11:42 PM

The founding fathers, the constitution…….that’s where it’s all about………….

Ladywolfnl on April 15, 2009 at 11:44 PM

Thanks guy’s & gals. If that slideshow moves too fast, still pictures can be seen by clicking the menu button above the pictures.

LegendHasIt on April 15, 2009 at 11:55 PM

I went to the Tea Party in Hollister, California today. About 150 well-behaved people. Lots of support from people honking as they passed by. There were about three cars that went by and made comments that were pro-Obama. Then, we realized that two of them were the same woman who came by twice. I’m going to try and see about getting some pictures up.

trigon on April 15, 2009 at 11:59 PM

Just got back from the Phoenix event. Scheduled to start at 5/530, we got there around 4 to help out and the place was FULL of people. And they just kept coming.

We had been cautioned beforehand that we were to stay on the capitol grounds, but there were simply too many people to be contained, and the crowds spilled out to the streets, cars and trucks honking their support.

Some people walked miles to get there. It was amazing. I’ve got lots of pics, which I have to look over before I post, but I got to say, it was absolutely AMAZING!

koz on April 16, 2009 at 12:02 AM

I’m not expecting handouts – I’d rather be able to work without having some business threaten with outsourced/offshored labor.

sethstorm on April 15, 2009 at 8:23 PM

oh please. you know how you make sure you don’t get outsourced? you provide value to your employer. or better yet, start your own business. You sound like a union hack who needs to be protected because you can’t survive on your own.

Very pathetic. And very typical of an Obamabot.

angryed on April 16, 2009 at 12:17 AM

I’m lazy! I didn’t read all the comments above before posting this. My apologies. I went to a tea party today at The Woodlands, Texas where over 5,000 people attended while at the main Houston rally, over 5,000 people attended – only because “officials” would not let more people in – it would probably be well over 8,000 at the downtown Houston event if those waiting to enter were allowed to enter after those leaving. Lots of problems with the downtown Houston event. The Woodlands event was amazing! Lots of room – started at 5:00 p.m. – We left at 7:30 to try to get ahead of the traffic and people were still pouring in. Great signs and great people – no problems! Kevin Brady was the only Rep. speaking and he was soundly booed by those in the know. I wanted to ask why a government representative would want to speak at a rally designed to protest government and government representatives. Bad planning on the organizers part. San Antonio refused to have politicians speak. Good on them!

Neocon Peg on April 16, 2009 at 12:32 AM

So do we have an estimated total of citizens who attended today?

Yakko77 on April 16, 2009 at 12:33 AM

I heard it was 200,000, but I think it was much more. The 200,000 was probably the press number. The Woodlands is a small suburban community outside Houston and it drew 5,000. Sealy a tiny town outside of Houston drew 250! Dallas,
Austin and San Antonio drew huge crowds. That’s just in Texas. 200,000 wouldn’t even fit Texas much less the nation! I think it is more in the millions.

Neocon Peg on April 16, 2009 at 12:40 AM

OK. Some photos of the Hollister, California Tea Party…

Large files.

trigon on April 16, 2009 at 2:25 AM

Ahh yes, the same old myth that conservatives pay the taxes to support the lazy liberals. Perhaps I can direct you to some Data?

“The report shows that of the 32 states (and the District of Columbia) that are “winners” — receiving more in federal spending than they pay in federal taxes — 76% are Red States that voted for George Bush in 2000. Indeed, 17 of the 20 (85%) states receiving the most federal spending per dollar of federal taxes paid are Red States…In contrast, of the 16 states that are “losers” — receiving less in federal spending than they pay in federal taxes — 69% are Blue States that voted for Al Gore in 2000. Indeed, 11 of the 14 (79%) of the states receiving the least federal spending per dollar of federal taxes paid are Blue States…Two states — Florida and Oregon (coincidentally, the two closest states in the 2000 Presidential election) — received $1.00 in federal spending for each $1.00 in federal taxes paid. “

maleman on April 15, 2009 at 8:52 PM

I see this simplistic analysis almost every time this debate comes up.

I’m a red individual making a very nice living in a blue state. I would bet my last dollar that it’s red individuals like me paying the majority of the blue states’ taxes. You did see that NYC got something like 50% of its tax revenues from 1% of its residents, right? What do you think those 1%’s voting pattern looks like? Red or blue?

How much in income tax do you think Mayor Bloomberg pays in federal income tax as opposed to people living in the South Bronx? I probably pay as much as a dozen blue morons where I live in Chicago, but of course they’ll outvote me. And that’s not even counting the other blue morons who pay no taxes. Congratulations, you’ve just become a member of the “Supporters of the Tyranny of the Majority” club. You must be so proud.

Plus, if you actually read the comments at your link, which I did to see if anyone had the brains to point this out, there are a variety of other reasons why the data net out the way they do, chief among them military spending and the peculiarities of the US Senate representing each state equally, regardless of population.

venividivici on April 16, 2009 at 2:27 AM

Photos of the Hollister, California Tea Party can be found in this directory. Some large files, but, if you’re interested, enjoy!

Photo Directory

trigon on April 16, 2009 at 2:31 AM

The TEA party at Honolulu was a great success, other than some clown walking around with a sign that said “9/11 was an inside job.”

I met a guy from Belgium who couldn’t understand why we didn’t want European style socialism. Whatever.

Highlight for me was the tourist from New York who was given the mic, and he warned us all not to let happen to Hawaii what happened in New York. Maybe he was too late, the state legislature yesterday passed new taxes on the tourism industry and vehicle registrations. Next up, they’re considering a tax on pensions. Good grief.

Great to see so many who love liberty!

Johnson on April 16, 2009 at 3:08 AM

I like how the MSM tried to dictate what the protests were about.

I know people who voted for Obama for one reason: they think they will get free stuff. They think they will get money in the mail, free health care, free everything and anything. When and if that does not show up, they won’t vote for your guy anymore. That is the problem inherent in Obama’s policy. He has made too many promises to too many people.

Terrye on April 15, 2009 at 7:54 PM

This kind of says a lot of it to me, plus it all ended up stimulating governemnt and not business. Look at the bait that got him in; free stuff. Then look at the switch that happened; bigger govt. 100 days in and we get a good flavor of what he’s up to. Oh but wait there’s more…

The one thing government has to understand is “We the people” get to vote this crap out very very soon, ACORN permitting.

johnnyU on April 16, 2009 at 4:10 AM

2010 can’t come soon enough! In the meantime, let’s get our voices heard loud and clear! Power to the People like in 1773!

sarahpalinfan99 on April 16, 2009 at 4:57 AM

Erie Times-News article about the one I went to yesterday:

http://www.goerie.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20090416/NEWS02/304169918

The fact that it was in a brewerie, with a restaurant beside it and a mini-version of the Grand Station mega-crowded plus the dozens outside, was wonderful. Got pics and a video; if I post the video all you’re gonna see is heads and a nice speech.

ProudPalinFan on April 16, 2009 at 7:19 AM

Oh I forgot to ask, when Nielsen numbers come in, Ed/Allah please post them…that is gonna be fun!

ProudPalinFan on April 16, 2009 at 7:21 AM

5,000 patriotic Texans participated in the energetically civilized Austin Tea Party, chanting “U-S-A” for the local media newscasters covering the City Hall gathering. The evening media failed to broadcast from the State Capitol. It was great to witness articulate and groomed folks of all ages proving civic pride in their protest against federal abuses.

BTW
Interestingly, last night KLRU (PBS) broadcast a forum of Austin’s mayoral candidates answering round table fashion a series of questions. Though of course she spoke very well, likely best for the job, Carol Keaton- did not look healthy. She was a brilliant State Comptroller, and has worn many hats to date as a Democrat, Republican and Independent Texan politician. The woman knows how to facilitate a consensus. I wish her mayoral campaign and her health well.

maverick muse on April 16, 2009 at 8:01 AM

Also attended Richmond, VA, behiker. Rainy, windy, and cold, I saw some folks with children leaving early. But a good crowd in the thousands(?) stayed until the end. Great signs, etc.
A number of us open carried our sidearms (though because of the weather, they were not as obvious as usual.) No real issues that I know of yet.

Was proud to see how many stuck out the bad weather. If it had been nicer, I bet 10,000 would have showed. Many, many, military veterans. Semper Fi!

riverrat10k on April 16, 2009 at 8:48 AM

oh please. you know how you make sure you don’t get outsourced? you provide value to your employer.
angryed on April 16, 2009 at 12:17 AM

Yeah, real genius. Why don’t you tell that to the hundreds of thousands of individuals who were doing just that when their employer shipped their paycheck off to Ching-Ling-Ding Land by the truckload? Are you insinuating that NONE of them were providing value to their employer?

There’s little unpleasant truth about a completely free (AKA “unrestrained”) market—the only thing that really matters is the numbers on bottom line. Among the ways to make sure those numbers are black and larger is to find workers who will do the same job for less pay. You know, kind of like what’s happening with illegal immigration? Somehow that stupidity of that thought just keeps flying over our heads of my fellow conservatives.

or better yet, start your own business.

Like what, set up a lemonade stand? With Obummah’s tax increases on the horizon and a worsening reception, existing (legitimate) businesses are already sweating bullets and burning the midnight oil trying to just exist. Now is not exactly the time to go hanging out your shingle.

Dark-Star on April 16, 2009 at 9:08 AM

Dark-Star on April 16, 2009 at 9:08 AM

Yeah let’s close up the borders and ban anything foreign. I can’t wait until I am forced to drive a UAW built Chevy Cobalt that will cost $50K.

Brilliant.

angryed on April 16, 2009 at 11:41 AM

Looking at the posts from overnight, it is obvious the trolls have an early bedtime, and no graveyard shifts.

Nuts4koi on April 16, 2009 at 1:58 PM

Yeah let’s close up the borders and ban anything foreign. I can’t wait until I am forced to drive a UAW built Chevy Cobalt that will cost $50K.

Brilliant.

angryed on April 16, 2009 at 11:41 AM

That’s complete bull – his concern is more to keep folks from using dirty pool to send jobs out of this country.

Dark-Star on April 16, 2009 at 9:08 AM

+1000000.

sethstorm on April 16, 2009 at 2:51 PM

So do we have an estimated total of citizens who attended today?

Yakko77 on April 16, 2009 at 12:33 AM

*bump*

I’ve been googling and all I can find is estimates for local rallies, not total around the nation.

Yakko77 on April 16, 2009 at 5:11 PM

Nice surprise today…….my sign I held for our Tea Party made the front page of the local paper. 1500 people showed up down on the River Street which was way over what the estimate was beforehand.
Front of sign: NO MORE STIMULUS! “TRIM U.S.” GOVT.
Back of sign: FREEDOM NOT FIEFDOM! One very young boy asked his Grandfather what FIEFDOM means and the look on his face when his Grandfather told him was priceless! “No way!” he said.

Coastal Paradise on April 16, 2009 at 9:06 PM

I attended the end of my local Reston, Virginia tea party. Well over 400 people. Based on 248 parking spots, cars on grass verges and lots of couples with children.
This is in Reston, Va, home of the Moran liberals.
 Lots of Obama and Kerry stickers on cars here.

The venue changed to Baron Cameron Park just before show-time. Raining on a weeknight, but nice people, with thoughtful homemade signs. Pretty good turn-out, all considered.

NaCly dog on April 16, 2009 at 9:42 PM

Attended the Richmond, VA Tea Party last night.
Estimates have been upwards of 3000. Pretty good considering it was drizzling, breezy, and cool–low 50′s. Weather put a damper on somewhat, but I personally was heartened to see the turnout and was content to count heads.
My sign had the Virginia State Seal on one side, adopted in 1776 (motto: Sic Semper Tyrannus; Thus Always to Tyrants,)and various beefs such as Geithner=Tax Cheat and Repeal the Reapportionment Act of 1929 on the other.

riverrat10k on April 16, 2009 at 9:46 PM

Didn’t the President, with a straight face, promise to reduce the deficit by half in five years? The Congressional Budget Office forecasts government spending over the next 10 years will quadruple the annual deficit of Bush’s presidency. The CBO expects the nation’s debt to double in five years and triple in 10.

Jessie on April 16, 2009 at 11:09 PM

I feel like a trendsetter now after standing by myself with a sign outside the Capitol in Sacramento on Feb 16. to protest the Porkulus.

I almost bagged the idea – but Keli’s get together re-motivated me.

Totally a grassroots effort born out of the alarm and frustration of this massive bill being shoved down our throats.

That bill should be demonized like no legislation before. It needs to be toxic. Snowe, Specter and Collins need to lose their seats and this needs to cost the Dems both houses and the WH over the next few elections.

Then we should investigate whether the 0bamonkey committed a crime by posing as President while not being a naturalized citizen.
I got tons of comments of support that day (especially from remorseful 0 voters) – and the turn out on 4/15 was incredible.

I was a little disappointed there seemed to be no groundswell of protest back in Feb.

Mr Purple on April 17, 2009 at 3:36 AM

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