Obama left best missile radar tied to the dock during NoKo missile launch

posted at 12:18 pm on April 15, 2009 by Ed Morrissey

How does one make the argument that missile-defense systems are unproven?  Don’t allow it to get tested.  Despite having plenty of lead time to the North Korean missile launch, the Obama administration refused to permit the US Navy to deploy its most sophisticated missile-tracking radar during the launch.  The reason?  It might have annoyed Kim Jong-Il:

Defense Secretary Robert M. Gates denied permission for the U.S. Northern Command to use the Pentagon’s most powerful sea-based radar to monitor North Korea’s recent missile launch, precluding officials from collecting finely detailed launch data or testing the radar in a real-time crisis, current and former defense officials said. …

SBX, deployed in 2005, can track and identify warheads, decoys and debris in space with very high precision. Officials said the radar is so powerful it could detect a baseball hit out of a ballpark from more than 3,000 miles away, and that other radars used by the U.S. would not be able to provide the same level of detail about North Korea’s missile capabilities.

Retired Air Force Lt. Gen. Henry Obering, who until recently headed the Missile Defense Agency, said the SBX would have gathered data other U.S. systems could not.

“The sea-based X-band radar is clearly without a doubt the most powerful and capable sensor in all of our missile defense inventory,” he said. “It is three or four more times powerful than other radars” in Asia, including Aegis-equipped ships, a Cobra Dane early warning radar in Alaska and a small X-band radar in northern Japan, he said.

Bill Gertz reports exclusively for the Washington Times that Barack Obama’s civilian policymakers rejected the notion that the Taepodong-2 was anything other than a satellite launch.  They did not want to provoke Kim by hauling out the SBX, shown on the front page lashed to the dock behind the USS Arizona memorial in Pearl Harbor.  Bear in mind that any launch of a long-range missile by Pyongyang violates UN Security Council resolution 1718, which the Obama administration belatedly referenced in their push back against launch, days after it happened.  Satellites or not, Kim is supposedly constrained from launching Taepodong-2s in a resolution the US supported at its adoption, and for which Obama and Susan Rice demonstrated support after the launch.

Why were we so concerned about Kim’s feelings anyway?  We objected to the launch before and after it happened.  We also have every right to tow the SBX out to international waters for testing.  If we had done so, we could have gotten better intel on a hostile action while testing a new system under real-world conditions.  That’s a no-brainer in every world but Foggy Bottom and, apparently, the West Wing.

McKittrick at Closing Velocity calls this an “effin’ brilliant” strategy:

So using the SBX to simply observe a very provocative missile launch was itself deemed too damned provocative by Obama? And that it would have derailed disarmament talks? You mean those talks that have utterly fallen apart anyway? …

Brilliant. Effin’ brilliant.

The opportunity to pursue hopeless talks with Kim Jong-Il was more valuable than collecting operationally realistic data and improving our defense against a growing threat. And the Hopes of naive diplomats outweigh urgent requests from military commanders. Change you can believe in.

It doesn’t take much to cow this President into retreat.  Just the mere thought of Kim Jong-Il’s annoyance kept the US from testing an important defense system that wound up sitting in the water while Kim threw his tantrum anyway.  I guess this must be “smart power”.


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It would not fit under the bus?

kybowexar on April 15, 2009 at 12:20 PM

North Korea’s missile was not a threat to the US. The missile fell in the ocean for God sake

nice343 on April 15, 2009 at 12:20 PM

How dare you publicize this! Are you trying to destroy MSNBC’s “He passed his first international crisis test” line?

corona on April 15, 2009 at 12:21 PM

“smart power”.

Ah those lefties and their new definitions, I just cant keep up.

canditaylor68 on April 15, 2009 at 12:21 PM

North Korea’s missile was not a threat to the US. The missile fell in the ocean for God sake

nice343 on April 15, 2009 at 12:20 PM

Because it only had limited fuel. What if it had been…. full? Where do you think it would go next?

upinak on April 15, 2009 at 12:22 PM

North Korea’s missile was not a threat to the US. The missile fell in the ocean for God sake

nice343 on April 15, 2009 at 12:20 PM

We’re lucky having Obama knowing that kind of stuff in advance. He’s the Won.

the_nile on April 15, 2009 at 12:22 PM

Great photo.

RobCon on April 15, 2009 at 12:22 PM

North Korea’s missile was not a threat to the US. The missile fell in the ocean for God sake

nice343 on April 15, 2009 at 12:20 PM

So Obama is psychic? Because if he isn’t, he took a risk. And it’s not even a matter of shooting down the missile, but rather gaining additional information on it.

amerpundit on April 15, 2009 at 12:23 PM

Shocking….i am aghast….mortified…yawn…are any of you really surprised…Zippy big ears has other issues to attend to….

RN’s for Life

JJKRN on April 15, 2009 at 12:25 PM

I guess this must be “smart power”.

Just about as smart as the Smart Car.

Disturb the Universe on April 15, 2009 at 12:25 PM

If anything bad happens to Japan or the ROK while Ogabe occupies the Oval Office, the blood is on his hands.

PimFortuynsGhost on April 15, 2009 at 12:25 PM

Many Americans will not understand the threat until they hear that the missiles can hit California, Arizona, Washington, Oregon, and Las Vegas. If that’s not the case with these missiles, then so be it. I’m just telling you – that’s when people will start caring. When they hear that Napa Valley, casinos, University of Phoenix Stadium, etc. could be destroyed by some jealous fanatic overseas.

Until then – it’s too abstract and they trust their lying media too much.

thebadoutlaw on April 15, 2009 at 12:25 PM

Why didn’t we let Japan have it for a few days? They would have used it I would imagine.
L

letget on April 15, 2009 at 12:25 PM

So Obama is psychic? Because if he isn’t, he took a risk. And it’s not even a matter of shooting down the missile, but rather gaining additional information on it.

amerpundit on April 15, 2009 at 12:23 PM

Obama knows more about National Security secrets than you do. The move was a calculated move. Why would you waste military resources when you know very well the missile is not making it anywhere?

nice343 on April 15, 2009 at 12:26 PM

I have to assume Gates agrees with this. An honorable man would resign when he feels his country is not being defended.

WashJeff on April 15, 2009 at 12:26 PM

Uhm, all of NKs missile tests were targeted towards Hawaii. The NKs missiles only have to “work” once to devastate the USA.

And every failed launch gives the Norks info on how to improve their missile offense. So nice343 can get go live in Hawaii and wait for another failed missile launch for all I care.

Neo on April 15, 2009 at 12:26 PM

Comrades comrades…….calm yourself…….here come into the Madrassa where the Messiah learned the Koran…..and let’s hit the bong and “reach across the aisle” to be friends with Harry R., Rahm E., and AAAAA-Cup Nancy P. After all comrades…….Rev. Wright was correct – America is Evil………and we don’t want to hurt our ally and friend North Korea! Let us now all bow to the Arab King and join hands in LOVE and PEACE………..or something.

Cinday Blackburn on April 15, 2009 at 12:28 PM

this all occured BEFORE it was ‘cool’ to shoot pollution up into the atmosphere to cure global warming. What isn’t mentioned in the story is all of the tons of carbon that Obama has ordered the military to expend into the upper atmosphere

gatorboy on April 15, 2009 at 12:28 PM

Not a day goes by in which there aren’t a least a few new examples of how naive the “commander-in-chief” is. If it wasn’t so dangerous to this country it would be hilarious.

Wine_N_Dine on April 15, 2009 at 12:29 PM

Until then – it’s too abstract and they trust their lying media too much.

thebadoutlaw on April 15, 2009 at 12:25 PM

So Alaska and Hawaii don’t count? Thanks for that vote!

upinak on April 15, 2009 at 12:29 PM

Since I first saw this in the headline section I have been pondering his reason(s) for not deploying and for the life of me I cannot reach any logical conclusion. On the surface it makes no sense at all.

North Korea’s missile was not a threat to the US. The missile fell in the ocean for God sake

nice343 on April 15, 2009 at 12:20 PM

From little acorns big oak trees grow. Wake up and smell the gun powder

oldernwiser on April 15, 2009 at 12:29 PM

Obama knows more about National Security secrets than you do. The move was a calculated move. Why would you waste military resources when you know very well the missile is not making it anywhere?

nice343 on April 15, 2009 at 12:26 PM

Uhm – testing the system perhaps? When the real one is coming you don’t hope the thing works. A live fire exercise is always preferable to simply testing. This was an actual situation. Good time to test – the radar anyway. I think the president blew his test.

kybowexar on April 15, 2009 at 12:30 PM

A pack of fools. Silly little girls.

pat on April 15, 2009 at 12:30 PM

nice343 on April 15, 2009 at 12:26 PM

Where was this sentiment during the last administration?

PJ Emeritus on April 15, 2009 at 12:30 PM

This has nothing to do with not giving offense to N.Korea.
He won’t be able to de-fund “unproven” missile defense if the military goes and proves it does indeed work. Hence, the last thing he wants is a real time, operational test.

Sefton on April 15, 2009 at 12:30 PM

Obama knows more about National Security secrets than you do. The move was a calculated move. Why would you waste military resources when you know very well the missile is not making it anywhere?

nice343 on April 15, 2009 at 12:26 PM

:-)
Are you 100% sure of that?

oldernwiser on April 15, 2009 at 12:31 PM

North Korea’s missile was not a threat to the US. The missile fell in the ocean for God sake

nice343 on April 15, 2009 at 12:20 PM

In what vacuum do you reside?

-Dave

Dave R. on April 15, 2009 at 12:31 PM

Obama knows more about National Security secrets than you do. The move was a calculated move. Why would you waste military resources when you know very well the missile is not making it anywhere?

nice343 on April 15, 2009 at 12:26 PM

This is really your response? Obama just knows more and therefore knew the weapon that Kim didn’t even know would fail, would fail? Seriously?

Besides, it still doesn’t make sense that he’d waste an opportunity to test a defense system. There’s no excuse for that.

Esthier on April 15, 2009 at 12:32 PM

nice343 on April 15, 2009 at 12:20 PM

Helping another troll answer the question: “Do you think I’m stupid?”

lorien1973 on April 15, 2009 at 12:33 PM

“Smart power” would have involved using the radar as we are completely within our rights to do. Then if the Norks have a cow (and we’ve already got the data in hand), offer to keep it tied to the docks next time if they give something in return.

Obama is just plain stupid.

commenter on April 15, 2009 at 12:33 PM

Where was this sentiment during the last administration?

PJ Emeritus on April 15, 2009 at 12:30 PM

No, only Obama knows more than we do. Bush is still stupid.

Esthier on April 15, 2009 at 12:33 PM

North Korea’s missile was not a threat to the US. The missile fell in the ocean for God sake

nice343 on April 15, 2009 at 12:20 PM

In what vacuum do you reside?

-Dave

Dave R. on April 15, 2009 at 12:31 PM

I think Nice’s comments speak for themselves – the vacuum resides above his or her neck.

kybowexar on April 15, 2009 at 12:33 PM

nice343 on April 15, 2009 at 12:20 PM

Helping another troll answer the question: “Do you think I’m stupid?”

lorien1973 on April 15, 2009 at 12:33 PM

Lorien – we think alike.

(That concerns me to no end…)

kybowexar on April 15, 2009 at 12:34 PM

North Korea’s missile was not a threat to the US. The missile fell in the ocean for God sake

Unless, it, you know, hits one of America’s allies. You know, like that one called Japan or the other called South Korea.
Then again, I guess if NK doesn’t hit Los Angeles or something, I don’t suppose you’d give a sh*t.

The problem isn’t just the fact that NK can launch a missile, even though everyone “frowns” on it. It’s that they have nuke technology and will eventually arm themselves with nukes.

mjk on April 15, 2009 at 12:34 PM

Ed,

Does an “Obamateurism of the Day” have to be a gaffe? Because this sure qualifies as a very amateurish call on Obama’s part.

We are sitting ducks under this “president.” He continues to show weakness in the face of adversity. The world is hitting us in the back of the head with spitballs, and he’s ignoring it. Soon those spitballs will turn into real bullets.

We should be thanking Biden for the warning to gird out loins. Too bad the majority of voters were not listening to the warning.

UltimateBob on April 15, 2009 at 12:34 PM

P2 (President Pantywaist) is earning his nickname.

Headline in today’s Los Angeles Pravda Times about how the Norks will “never again” enter talks with the filthy capitalists…shows how much Kim appreciates the solicitude of P2 and Clinton.

Dunces and cowards.

Harry Schell on April 15, 2009 at 12:35 PM

Obama knows more about National Security secrets than you do.

Yeah, is that why he opposed the surge, too? Because he’s so uber-smart and well-informed?

I return to my already-proven hypothesis: Obama is just plain stupid.

commenter on April 15, 2009 at 12:35 PM

Oh, and hey, look at puppy!!!

mjk on April 15, 2009 at 12:35 PM

I guess this must be “smart power”.

Ah,

DamnYankee on April 15, 2009 at 12:36 PM

Many Americans will not understand the threat until they hear that the missiles can hit California, Arizona, Washington, Oregon, and Las Vegas.

Fixed.

Osama Obama is a traitor to the oath he took — twice — to defend the Constitution.

Impeach the child-president before his weakness leads to our destruction.

MrScribbler on April 15, 2009 at 12:36 PM

“Damn it people! Stop looking at alternative media! We put forth a perfectly good story on Obama’s new dog for you all to fawn over. Step away from the truth.” -MSM.

portlandon on April 15, 2009 at 12:37 PM

Obama knows more about National Security secrets than you do. The move was a calculated move. Why would you waste military resources when you know very well the missile is not making it anywhere?

nice343 on April 15, 2009 at 12:26 PM

Cuz Obama, having felt a threat, would have deployed something he wants to get rid of? Makes total sense.

lorien1973 on April 15, 2009 at 12:37 PM

I guess this must be “smart power”.

Ah, “Smart Power.”

def: “Walk softly and carry a limp dick!”

DamnYankee on April 15, 2009 at 12:37 PM

Yeah, he’s stupid…like a fox. He knows cutting funding for missile defense will be harder if we have tests showing that it actually works.

Sefton on April 15, 2009 at 12:38 PM

Yeah, is that why he opposed the surge, too? Because he’s so uber-smart and well-informed?

I return to my already-proven hypothesis: Obama is just plain stupid.

commenter on April 15, 2009 at 12:35 PM

If he was President during the Iraq invasion we would not be in Iraq and we would not be in a position to talk about a “surge”

Bush has more than 4000 blood on his hands that he has to answer to God over this useless war.

nice343 on April 15, 2009 at 12:38 PM

Obama knows more about National Security secrets than you do. The move was a calculated move. Why would you waste military resources when you know very well the missile is not making it anywhere?

nice343 on April 15, 2009 at 12:26 PM

Is that why we put five Aegis ships off the North Korean coast, activated an X-Band radar on Japan, and skirted two Cobra Ball recon planes along NK airspace? Seems like an extreme “waste of military resources” for a predetermined failure. Idiot.

(my alter ego thanks you for the link, Ed)

Cuffy Meigs on April 15, 2009 at 12:38 PM

Oh, and hey, look at puppy!!!

mjk on April 15, 2009 at 12:35 PM

Wag the Dog

Esthier on April 15, 2009 at 12:38 PM

Let’s not do anything, lest the norks restart their nuclear reactors.

Oh wait.

Nevermind.

lorien1973 on April 15, 2009 at 12:39 PM

Gates has turned out to be a major disappointment as Sec. of Defense under nObama, now I see why this child president kept him on. This incident is just the latest preview of our new strategic position: face Mecca, head-down, ass-up!

Historic election indeed……….

dmann on April 15, 2009 at 12:39 PM

Many Americans will not understand the threat until they hear that the missiles can California, Arizona, Washington, Oregon, and Las Vegas.

Obama should surely note that 73 electoral votes would be lost with OR,CA & WA. Priorities you know.

portlandon on April 15, 2009 at 12:40 PM

Radar is an unproven technology vulnerable to enemy countermeasures. We shouldn’t waste money on it.

DarkCurrent on April 15, 2009 at 12:40 PM

nice343 on April 15, 2009 at 12:38 PM

Well, leftists like Ogabe’s mentors have the blood of over 100,000,000 million on their hands.

What is your fuc*ing point?

PimFortuynsGhost on April 15, 2009 at 12:41 PM

Has anyone yet come out and claimed that the missile fell into the ocean because of something Obama did?

eforhan on April 15, 2009 at 12:43 PM

Cuffy Meigs on April 15, 2009 at 12:38 PM

Don’t bother, you’ll get a better conversation talking to your pets.

dmann on April 15, 2009 at 12:43 PM

If he was President during the Iraq invasion we would not be in Iraq and we would not be in a position to talk about a “surge”

But he wasn’t, thank God. He was however, a Senator when his vote counted (you know, for the few times he didn’t vote present), and he’s even stated after acknowledging the success of the surge that he would still have voted against it.

Smart power.

Bush has more than 4000 blood on his hands that he has to answer to God over this useless war.

nice343 on April 15, 2009 at 12:38 PM

And your side’s hero has more than I care to count with Vietnam if you want to start that game.

Esthier on April 15, 2009 at 12:44 PM

Obama knows more about National Security secrets than you do. The move was a calculated move. Why would you waste military resources when you know very well the missile is not making it anywhere?

nice343 on April 15, 2009 at 12:26 PM

If he knew it was going to fail ahead of time, he wouldn’t have mobilized other naval assets — including anti-missile ships.

How is sending a radar device to collect data on a North Korean missile a waste of military resources? “stupid” and “calculated” are not interchangeable.

amerpundit on April 15, 2009 at 12:44 PM

Has anyone yet come out and claimed that the missile fell into the ocean because of something Obama did?

eforhan on April 15, 2009 at 12:43 PM

You get the early copies of the NYT? (laugh)

kybowexar on April 15, 2009 at 12:45 PM

If he was President during the Iraq invasion we would not be in Iraq and we would not be in a position to talk about a “surge”

Bush has more than 4000 blood on his hands that he has to answer to God over this useless war.

nice343 on April 15, 2009 at 12:38 PM

First there wouldn’t be a Iraq invasion
Saddam would still be alive
Iraq would still be oppressed
Iran would have their Nukes by now
WMD’s WOULD be a real threat to America and other Countries
And the fact that you can say that shows how completely ignorant you are.

upinak on April 15, 2009 at 12:45 PM

Radar is an unproven technology vulnerable to enemy countermeasures. We shouldn’t waste money on it.

DarkCurrent on April 15, 2009 at 12:40 PM

Airplanes were unproven until they were tested and researched. That’s a horrible argument.

Esthier on April 15, 2009 at 12:45 PM

Obama knows more about National Security secrets than you do. The move was a calculated move.

nice343 on April 15, 2009 at 12:26 PM

So…. this administration sees American veterans as a threat, but not North Korea?

Your words are the equivanent of “nyeah nyeah na nyeah nyeah.” Go away and come back when you have an intelligent argument for us.

UltimateBob on April 15, 2009 at 12:45 PM

If he was President during the Iraq invasion we would not be in Iraq and we would not be in a position to talk about a “surge”

And Saddam Hussein would still be a threat, as well oppressing and brutally killing his own people. Let’s ask Bill Clinton and his administration about intelligence on Iraq.

Bush has more than 4000 blood on his hands that he has to answer to God over this useless war.

nice343 on April 15, 2009 at 12:38 PM

Shall we review the blood the Democratic Party has on its hands? From Vietnam to Korea to WWII to WWI?

amerpundit on April 15, 2009 at 12:46 PM

North Korea’s missile was not a threat to the US. The missile fell in the ocean for God sake

nice343 on April 15, 2009 at 12:20 PM

This time.

MarkTheGreat on April 15, 2009 at 12:46 PM

amerpundit on April 15, 2009 at 12:46 PM

Oh ameri.. is it that website you can learn histroy in under a minute and a half!?!?

I love THAT site!

upinak on April 15, 2009 at 12:47 PM

Unacceptable.

mindhacker on April 15, 2009 at 12:49 PM

nice343 on April 15, 2009 at 12:38 PM

Why/what did Bill Clinton bomb Iraq in 1998 (during the impeachment vote)?

Beagle on April 15, 2009 at 12:52 PM

nice343 on April 15, 2009 at 12:20 PM

God, you are stupid. I’m surprised that you can find the keys on the keyboard to espouse your stupiditiy.

cjs1943 on April 15, 2009 at 12:52 PM

North Korea’s missile was not a threat to the US. The missile fell in the ocean for God sake

nice343 on April 15, 2009 at 12:20 PM

Pure genius. By that logic Imperial Japan was not a threat to the US until the morning of December 7, 1941.

DarkCurrent on April 15, 2009 at 12:52 PM

If he was President during the Iraq invasion we would not be in Iraq and we would not be in a position to talk about a “surge”

Bush has more than 4000 blood on his hands that he has to answer to God over this useless war.

nice343 on April 15, 2009 at 12:38 PM

Instead Obama would have the blood of 10′s of thousands of Iraqi’s killed by Saddam, not to mention the continued destabalizing of the entire region funded by Saddam’s oil revenue.

We’d also have the joy of having three countries actively trying to develop nuclear weapons.

MarkTheGreat on April 15, 2009 at 12:53 PM

We need to face facts – Barry is not very bright. He needs a babysitter to help him figure out basic strategy.

Vashta.Nerada on April 15, 2009 at 12:53 PM

Radar is an unproven technology vulnerable to enemy countermeasures. We shouldn’t waste money on it.

DarkCurrent on April 15, 2009 at 12:40 PM

We shouldn’t be wasting money on such unproven technology, especially when our radar is better than anyone else’s anyway. Besides there are no threats out there that we need to worry about.

Sorry about that, I was channelling DarkStar for a second.

MarkTheGreat on April 15, 2009 at 12:55 PM

North Korea’s missile was not a threat to the US. The missile fell in the ocean for God sake

nice343 on April 15, 2009 at 12:20 PM

Good point. Our time would be better spent developing time-travel technology so that when Korea does develop the missile technology sufficient to launch a nuclear strike we can go back in time and develop the anti-missile defenses to deal with it.

gwelf on April 15, 2009 at 1:00 PM

Radar is an unproven technology vulnerable to enemy countermeasures. We shouldn’t waste money on it.

DarkCurrent on April 15, 2009 at 12:40 PM

GM and AIG are PROVEN failures, yet the messiah is shoveling money into them as fast as he can. Continuity anyone?

Wine_N_Dine on April 15, 2009 at 1:00 PM

Airplanes were unproven until they were tested and researched. That’s a horrible argument.

Esthier on April 15, 2009 at 12:45 PM

My comment was just a parody the 343s of the world. Apparently a believable one ;)

DarkCurrent on April 15, 2009 at 1:01 PM

If he was President during the Iraq invasion we would not be in Iraq and we would not be in a position to talk about a “surge”

Bush has more than 4000 blood on his hands that he has to answer to God over this useless war.

nice343 on April 15, 2009 at 12:38 PM

Don’t forget that any military and civilian deaths after January 20th, 2009 get credited to Obama’s ‘war criminal’ account.

gwelf on April 15, 2009 at 1:02 PM

Bush has more than 4000 blood on his hands that he has to answer to God over this useless war.

nice343 on April 15, 2009 at 12:38 PM
And your side’s hero has more than I care to count with Vietnam if you want to start that game.

Esthier on April 15, 2009 at 12:44 PM

And that answer would be somewhere north of “what is 58,000″ Alex. Gee nice, need more pwning.

FlyoverJ-HawkFan on April 15, 2009 at 1:03 PM

God, you are stupid. I’m surprised that you can find the keys on the keyboard to espouse your stupiditiy.

cjs1943 on April 15, 2009 at 12:52 PM

It’s cut and paste from the online edition of “How to be Liberal for Idiots”. Interestingly enough in just about every case the “Idiots” in the title was meant as a friendly tease to break the ice but in this case it is literal.

jmarcure on April 15, 2009 at 1:03 PM

DarkCurrent on April 15, 2009 at 1:01 PM

I admit, I had to read it twice. :P

lorien1973 on April 15, 2009 at 1:05 PM

Nothing Phases these people…..

Get it? Phases as in Phased array….

nevermind

RustyFeedramps on April 15, 2009 at 1:05 PM

So launching a missile is less provocative than watching it get launched?

Bizzaro world indeed.

Scrappy on April 15, 2009 at 1:06 PM

Bush has more than 4000 blood on his hands that he has to answer to God over this useless war.

Damn, wonder what the afterlife is for JFK and LBJ.

FlyoverJ-HawkFan on April 15, 2009 at 1:06 PM

North Korea’s missile was not a threat to the US. The missile fell in the ocean for God sake

nice343 on April 15, 2009 at 12:20 PM

Let’s test this logic for a moment shall we….

Go shoot a gun at a cop, but make sure you miss. See if they arrest you anyway.

Scrappy on April 15, 2009 at 1:08 PM

When the French are calling you out, and they are right, you know your in trouble.

portlandon on April 15, 2009 at 1:10 PM

My comment was just a parody the 343s of the world. Apparently a believable one ;)

DarkCurrent on April 15, 2009 at 1:01 PM

Sorry. I didn’t think you thought like that, having seen you post before, but yeah, it was convincing.

Esthier on April 15, 2009 at 1:11 PM

Go shoot a gun at a cop, but make sure you miss. See if they arrest you anyway.

Scrappy on April 15, 2009 at 1:08 PM

See if they don’t kill you.

Esthier on April 15, 2009 at 1:11 PM

Lets not be bo so hard on Nice123. Blind, unadulterated adulation clouds the mind as much as BDS

Bevan on April 15, 2009 at 1:15 PM

Just another example of that ‘smart diplomacy’ being practiced in DC these days by the ‘intellectual elite’.

GarandFan on April 15, 2009 at 1:22 PM

Radar is an unproven technology vulnerable to enemy countermeasures. We shouldn’t waste money on it.

DarkCurrent on April 15, 2009 at 12:40 PM

Hear Hear! I’d like to add that taxes are an unproven (and unpopular…listening, populists?) policy and vulnerable to perturbations in the greater economy. They should be cancelled.

BobMbx on April 15, 2009 at 1:23 PM

They did not want to provoke Kim by hauling out the SBX, shown on the front page lashed to the dock behind the USS Arizona memorial in Pearl Harbor.

So much wrong with that. What a disservice to those resting in the hull of the Arizona.
I suspect to a man they would demand our weaponry brought to bear.

FireBlogger on April 15, 2009 at 1:25 PM

We are doomed.

Griz on April 15, 2009 at 1:31 PM

Why not just paint a big bulls eye on the country.

Kini on April 15, 2009 at 1:36 PM

***
A valuable opportunity to measure the enemy rocket velocity, possible maneuver capability, stage and re-entry vehicle characteristics (radar cross-section, decoy / debris separation rates, etc.) was lost.
***
This type of information is very useful to model interceptor missile performance before the REAL MCCOY SHOWS UP WITH A NUKE BOLTED ON IT.
***
However, some question if the SBR and the ship towing it could have moved into position in time to instrument the NORK firing.
***
But who cares–when PRE-EMPTIVE SURRENDER is your national defense policy you don’t need no steeenking interceptors. Hope and Change, Smart Power, or a sign saying WE GIVE UP will work just as well. Let’s spend the money on something much more important–such as amnesty and welfare for UNDOCUMENTED IMMIGRANTS–(aka ILLEGAL ALIENS). We have to keep our national priorities straight.
***
John Bibb
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rocketman on April 15, 2009 at 1:39 PM

Now what is Obama going to do with an advanced radar
system!

Peace through strength of Superior FirePower,oh wait,
things can be done better with a nasty threatening
letter!!

canopfor on April 15, 2009 at 1:40 PM

the moment the missle left Korean airspace it should have been shot down, now that would have been a statement.

This whole mess is just because Ill spent the last money we sent to keep him quiet, he needs more lunch money. I suspect he spent the last money on this rocket. Korea always does this to get attention and get paid off, are we that stupid?

workingforpigs on April 15, 2009 at 1:40 PM

Not defending POTUS by any means, but part of the NOK ploy in this event would be to assess OUR missile defense and tracking capabilities (in conjunction with with China, Russia, Iran – take your pick).

Don’t forget that our best ELINT gathering technique is to let our opponents use their kewl tools so that we can see what they are capable of. The more they use them, the more we learn. However, that technique can also be turned against us as well.

Additionally, just because something sat tied up to the quay, doesn’t mean that we did not have other assets in play.

Regardless, I would suspect that the Joint Chiefs, CIA, and NSA had some input. It is a complicated game on a very grand scale. But overall, yeah, I suspect POTUS isn’t all the way up to speed yet.

juanito on April 15, 2009 at 1:41 PM

fyi, that radar platform is somewhat of a running joke locally as it appears to spend more time in port [for maintenance allegedly] than at sea. the fact that barry LEFT it in port this time is pretty sad …

also fyi, the AZ memorial is off by itself near Ford Island in the harbor. tho the pic makes them appear close together; NOTHING is near the memorial; the platform and the active ships at the base are 100s of yards away …

Buckaroo on April 15, 2009 at 1:43 PM

The 747 ABL system,nose turreted laser gizmo was designed for the shootdown of the North Korean Missile launch system,
or the Ageus Missile Destroyer for that matter!

Obama for some reason lacked the will to push the button,
me thinks!!

canopfor on April 15, 2009 at 1:47 PM

So launching a missile is less provocative than watching it get launched?

Scrappy on April 15, 2009 at 1:06 PM

If you believe America is the evil empire, and our enemies are the greatest freedom loving people of the world, like, you know, Kim Jong-il.

Loxodonta on April 15, 2009 at 1:47 PM

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