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posted at 5:37 pm on April 15, 2009 by Allahpundit
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Turns out the TV Newser clip I posted earlier picked up halfway through the segment. Here’s the full segment, replete with crack reporter Susan Roesgen naturally gravitating towards the guy holding a poster with a Hitler/Obama photoshop on it. Golly, who would have thought the media would single out the kookiest kids in the crowd in order to paint the whole movement as some sort of nascent militia — especially hot on the heels of DHS’s heavy breathing about right-wing extremists? Oh, right: Everyone. The boss called it 10 days ago:

For the next 9 days, the left-wing blogosphere and left-wing clueless pundits will hammer away with their unreality-based Tea Party smears…

It’s already happened once before — at the Denver anti-porkulus rally last month, when the Media Matters/Daily Kos crowd shifted media attention away from the policy message by manufacturing fake outrage about some stunt-puller who showed up with a sign comparing Obama to Hitler that I didn’t see and asked for a picture. The local newspaper, the Rocky Mountain News, took the bait…

Another tack: As Beckel signaled, leftists are going to use fear-mongering to paint mainstream taxpayers who believe in the Second Amendment, the Constitution, limited government, low taxes, and fiscal responsibility as fringe wackos. They have already exploited the Binghamton and Pittsburgh shooting sprees for political gain. They have no shame. Be prepared. Confront them with their own rank hypocrisy and unhingedness. Don’t get distracted. And don’t let your local media get away with lazily recycling their smears.

And sure enough, here’s Roesgen following the playbook to the letter. Shep Smith took a swipe at her on FNC, but he wasn’t nearly as harsh as this deserves. If Fox wants revenge, they need to follow Zombie’s lead and start sending people out to cover anti-war protests in the Bay Area — taking special care, of course, to give lots of air time to the most degenerate members of the bunch, like this turd here, so that viewers think he’s representative. Fire with fire.


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The only fascist we had in that crowd was Roesgen herself.

Ryan Gandy on April 15, 2009 at 5:39 PM

Keith Olbermann was not available for comment.

capitalist piglet on April 15, 2009 at 5:40 PM

I’m surprised CNN is even covering this. I guess they figure they need the ratings. Should be interesting to see the overnights.

Del Dolemonte on April 15, 2009 at 5:40 PM

This woman makes my blood boil.

Joe Caps on April 15, 2009 at 5:41 PM

This is like the twilight zone! Am I supposed to not remember the last 8 years and the hate the left spewed on Bush?

crabtree on April 15, 2009 at 5:42 PM

How strange. Why, it’s almost as if she feels a need to defend the president. I wonder if she ever went down to an ANSWER or MoveOn anti-war protest and complained about the images of Bush as Satan, Hitler, a chimp, etc.

w3bgrrl on April 15, 2009 at 5:42 PM

I don’t think CNN is fighting Fox. I believe they want their base back from MSNBC. Who else would be so gullible to not see through this biased charade.

sherry on April 15, 2009 at 5:42 PM

Man parrots what Fox and Rush tell him.

Hilarity ensues.

benny shakar on April 15, 2009 at 5:42 PM

Obama is at least partly a facist. Why not call him that?

petunia on April 15, 2009 at 5:43 PM

How about just saying that Obama’s political policies have national socialist tendencies?

Spirit of 1776 on April 15, 2009 at 5:43 PM

I think we need to send some kneepads to the CNN newsroom for this woman.
Do your JOB, report the news!

HornetSting on April 15, 2009 at 5:43 PM

“why do you think he’s a fascist? He’s the President of the United States.”

Great reasoning there, Susan. LOL.

She’s a moron and The Precedent is a fascist, though he’s really more interested in exacting revenge on Western civilization. That’s how it is.

progressoverpeace on April 15, 2009 at 5:44 PM

Golly, who would have thought the media would single out the kookiest kids in the crowd in order to paint the whole movement as some sort of nascent militia — especially hot on the heels of DHS’s heavy breathing about right-wing extremists?

The kookiest kids in the crowd? Poll your own site on whether or not Obama is a fascist.

crr6 on April 15, 2009 at 5:44 PM

Isn’t it the case that a lot of people who post here do think that Obama is a fascist? Just because this guy makes for bad PR doesn’t make him a random exception.

aengus on April 15, 2009 at 5:45 PM

benny shakar on April 15, 2009 at 5:42 PM

They ruined a perfectly good penis when they put ears on you boy.

thomasaur on April 15, 2009 at 5:45 PM

“why do you think he’s a fascist? He’s the President of the United States.”

Great reasoning there, Susan. LOL.

Well the gentleman with the poster managed to easily top her idiocy with his response.
“Why is Obama a fascist?”
“Because he is”.
classic.

crr6 on April 15, 2009 at 5:45 PM

benny shakar on April 15, 2009 at 5:42 PM

Poor trolls. So unthreatened by the protests they are, that they swarm into every thread whining about them.

lorien1973 on April 15, 2009 at 5:46 PM

To the MSM these rallies are a joke…so they are treating them like a joke.

We, the people, are not joking. MSM…take note.

Even in an almost totally Democrat demographic…Toledo, Ohio…about 1000 normal everyday people showed up at International park, in the cold and rain, to voice their concerns…peacefully, and then had an impromptu march to the mayor’s Office to put Mayor Finkbinder on notice that this Tea party is not just about the spending spree in Washington, but about the spending spree here, at home. The Toledo police were kind enough to stop traffic at times, to make sure no one got hurt along the way.

coldwarrior on April 15, 2009 at 5:46 PM

“How can you call the President a Fascist? Do you realize how offensive that is?”

I don’t even have any words. Actually I do, but I don’t want this twit to classify Hot Air as “not family friendly.”

Sir Corky on April 15, 2009 at 5:46 PM

“Why is Obama a fascist?”
“Because he is”.
classic.

He should have had an answer. You make a claim, you back it up. He should, at least, had the definition of fascism on his tongue.

Spirit of 1776 on April 15, 2009 at 5:47 PM

I guess the little trolls are willy, willy scaid…….

sandee on April 15, 2009 at 5:48 PM

This isn’t news, the media always finds the dumbest people in any crowd and interviews them. It is how they operate, think about it.

deadbackpacker on April 15, 2009 at 5:48 PM

Am I supposed to not remember the last 8 years and the hate the left spewed on Bush?

crabtree on April 15, 2009 at 5:42 PM

This witch is just pissed that we are not paying attention to her hard hitting story on Bo, Obama’s new dog. She spent ALL night on it, and she’s stuck at some Right wing gathering? She must not rank high at CNN.

portlandon on April 15, 2009 at 5:48 PM

Hmm, I going to defend the reporterette on this one.

You have a person at a rally holding a well-designed sign saying something provocative? Yeah, I’m interviewing that person.

Now, I’d try to get a wider range of views to see how representative Mr. Idiot, er, Mr. Signholder was of the crowd.

But yeah, put him on. Let’s see what his complaint is.

SteveMG on April 15, 2009 at 5:48 PM

crr6 on April 15, 2009 at 5:45 PM

Name one section of our economy that The Precedent doesn’t think the federal government should be in control of. Then tell me the method of control he loves most. Then tell me how he’s not an aspiring fascist.

progressoverpeace on April 15, 2009 at 5:49 PM

She needs to look up the definition of fascist, because the man is justified by stating Obama is one.

YoungAmerican on April 15, 2009 at 5:49 PM

The gall of these people. As though we all have just forgotten the incessant shrieking from the left that began the day Bush was elected. Daily cries about how fascist and dictatorial he was; on and on. And now suddenly the President is to be respected no matter what?
I can’t decide if they really are that deluded or just utterly disingenuous.

Grayson on April 15, 2009 at 5:49 PM

“Why be so hard on the President of the United States with such an offensive message?”

Come again…….?

………… Excuse me?

Does the Left forget what they called President George W. Bush for the last eight years………..?

This isn’t news……….

……….. its propaganda.

Seven Percent Solution on April 15, 2009 at 5:49 PM

Read Jonah Goldberg’s “Liberal Facism”. Obama is the epitome of facism.

Norwegian on April 15, 2009 at 5:49 PM

Hey yesterday I copied the wiki definition of fascism to this site… today the definition has changed! It now explicitly says the right is fascist… George Orwell was prescient.

petunia on April 15, 2009 at 5:51 PM

thomasaur on April 15, 2009 at 5:45 PM

You owe me one monitor.

PappaMac on April 15, 2009 at 5:51 PM

Troll Hilarity ensues on every single Tea Party thread. I hope they’re well paid because their efforts are not working. All the threads are still on topic.

kingsjester on April 15, 2009 at 5:52 PM

The gall of these people.

I don’t seem to remember reporters engaging the anti-Bush protesters with “Why be so hard on the President?” & “Why is Bush a Facist?” Her bias slip is showing.

portlandon on April 15, 2009 at 5:52 PM

She needs to look up the definition of fascist, because the man is justified by stating Obama is one.

No, he’s not justified. The “Obama is a fascist” crowd is playing word games by citing the textbook economic definition of fascism when that’s not at all how the term is understood in the public imagination. “Fascism” commonly refers to jackboots and Nazis. Obama’s a statist in the LBJ mold, not a new Mussolini.

Allahpundit on April 15, 2009 at 5:52 PM

Read Jonah Goldberg’s “Liberal Facism”. Obama is the epitome of facism.

But Goldberg explicitly says that today’s liberalism isn’t fascism.

Are some of the roots of contemporary liberalism in fascism? Yeah, but they’re not the same.

I’ll wager that if you ask him he’ll say that, “No, Obama’s not a fascist.”

SteveMG on April 15, 2009 at 5:53 PM

kingsjester on April 15, 2009 at 5:52 PM

Yes. We do need a better class of troll around here.

lorien1973 on April 15, 2009 at 5:53 PM

The gall of these people. As though we all have just forgotten the incessant shrieking from the left that began the day Bush was elected.

That really is one of the most galling things about it. All of a sudden, the left is a stickler on the definition of “fascism”?

Allahpundit on April 15, 2009 at 5:53 PM

She was confused by the fact that the guy’s sign is retarded. His case for calling Obama a fascist would be more credible if he didn’t have a sign showing him as a Nazi.

DaveS on April 15, 2009 at 5:54 PM

Are we getting to the point that we have to define every word that we use so that others understand what we are saying?

PappaMac on April 15, 2009 at 5:54 PM

Are we getting to the point that we have to define every word that we use so that others understand what we are saying?

PappaMac on April 15, 2009 at 5:55 PM

The gall of these people. As though we all have just forgotten the incessant shrieking from the left that began the day Bush was elected.

That really is one of the most galling things about it. All of a sudden, the left is a stickler on the definition of “fascism”?

Allahpundit on April 15, 2009 at 5:55 PM

The “Obama is a fascist” crowd is playing word games by citing the textbook economic definition of fascism when that’s not at all how the term is understood in the public imagination.

Indeed. Fascist = neo-con. Everybody knows that.

Spirit of 1776 on April 15, 2009 at 5:55 PM

PappaMac on April 15, 2009 at 5:51 PM

I have a million of them, but since I accepted Jesus Christ as my Savior I have tempered myself. I have a hard time sometimes. Sorry about the monitor. : O

thomasaur on April 15, 2009 at 5:55 PM

Can start here Allah

Veterans for Peace are after Markey in Massachusetts for his support of the “Israel war machine”

But then Pete Stark also got the treatment

William Amos on April 15, 2009 at 5:55 PM

No, he’s not justified. The “Obama is a fascist” crowd is playing word games by citing the textbook economic definition of fascism when that’s not at all how the term is understood in the public imagination. “Fascism” commonly refers to jackboots and Nazis. Obama’s a statist in the LBJ mold, not a new Mussolini.

Allahpundit on April 15, 2009 at 5:52 PM

Are you being sarcastic? Answer this carefully.

portlandon on April 15, 2009 at 5:56 PM

Notice, as well, that the event is labeled “GOP teabagging rally”… nice.

Lehosh on April 15, 2009 at 5:56 PM

What the tea party movement needs is specific goals. Do you want to repeal the 16th Amendment and abolish the IRS? That would certainly be a good start, at least.

The Dean on April 15, 2009 at 5:56 PM

The “Obama is a fascist” crowd is playing word games by citing the textbook economic definition of fascism
Yeah, but “LBJ statist” or “European dirigisme” doesn’t have that zing.

The problem is that we’ve got no easy bumper sticker wording/slogan to explain what he’s doing.

SteveMG on April 15, 2009 at 5:56 PM

Wait, I thought this was non-partisan?

Grow Fins on April 15, 2009 at 5:59 PM

Are we at the point that we have to define every word that we use so that others understand what we are saying?

PappaMac on April 15, 2009 at 5:59 PM

PappaMac

Isn’t that what cons are all about: words having a concrete meaning? Can’t have it both ways.

Grow Fins on April 15, 2009 at 6:00 PM

No, he’s not justified. The “Obama is a fascist” crowd is playing word games by citing the textbook economic definition of fascism when that’s not at all how the term is understood in the public imagination. “Fascism” commonly refers to jackboots and Nazis. Obama’s a statist in the LBJ mold, not a new Mussolini.

Allahpundit on April 15, 2009 at 5:52 PM

Sh*t, in a textbook sense, Obama is not wholly fascist (yet).

blatantblue on April 15, 2009 at 6:00 PM

Is it really true that Illinois &/or Obamaland is getting $50 Billion of the stimulus? That seems like a nice ratio, a healthy share. Who needs earmarks when you can hand your home state the three helpings of Porkulus?

Griz on April 15, 2009 at 6:00 PM

Are you being sarcastic? Answer this carefully.

Not being sarcastic at all. Obama’s not even a fascist according to the economic theory, by which the government takes over industry while ostensibly maintaining it as “private.” The bank takeovers are a temporary measure while they’re recapitalized and restructured; you have no reason to believe otherwise. But as I say, fascism really goes hand in hand with militarism, at least as commonly understood. The One is no militarist.

Allahpundit on April 15, 2009 at 6:01 PM

“Having noted what Jonah also notes, the onetime popularity of Fascism among progressive Western journalists and politicians, one should also stress that Fascism was never really a leftist movement. It appealed to authority figures and the Roman past and was unmistakably patriarchal in its understanding of the family and other social relations. And as Renzo DeFelice demonstrates in his multivolume study of Mussolini’s career and administration—an invaluable source that Goldberg didn’t bother to consult even in translation—Fascist government did nothing of significance to change productive forces or to redistribute wealth. It made owners, managers, and workers into contributors to an overarching Fascist order; and it required industrial leaders to consult with Fascist mediators before “releasing workers from their duties.” Workers were then given unemployment compensation or in some cases (in proper Latin style) the owners were bribed into continuing to employ unneeded workers.”

aengus on April 15, 2009 at 6:02 PM

Allahpundit on April 15, 2009 at 5:52 PM

So using the actual definition of fascist is a “word game”? But using a fake definition of fascism is actually the correct usage?

Ummm I think maybe you are using a little newspeak yourself there Allah.

petunia on April 15, 2009 at 6:02 PM

Considering the kind of crap that benny and his kind have been spewing for the 8 years that Bush was president, this is rich.

The truthers, the Moore movies, the ANSWER protests, the name calling, the books, etc…and this is what we hear now?

I don’t know what kind of effect this kind of reporting will have, but I think that after all the years of name calling Bush endured, the American people are probably kind of deaf to a lot of that.

Terrye on April 15, 2009 at 6:03 PM

Let’s check the ‘ol Webster…

Fascist:
a political philosophy, movement, or regime (as that of the Fascisti) that exalts nation and often race above the individual and that stands for a centralized autocratic government headed by a dictatorial leader, severe economic and social regimentation, and forcible suppression of opposition

Okay, Susan, let’s tally up the score:

1) Political philosophy…check
2) Exalts race above individual…check
3) Centralized gov. headed by dictatorial leader…um, I suppose being the Messiah qualifies…check
4) Economic and Social regimentation…check
5) Suppression of opposition…check

Looks like it’s a close call, but I think we may have a winner!

gregbert on April 15, 2009 at 6:04 PM

So what’s wrong, the guy is just telling the truth.

johnsteele on April 15, 2009 at 6:04 PM

petunia on April 15, 2009 at 6:02 PM

Allah’s point is that Obama isn’t a fascist by either definition. But, this reporter is a moron also.

DaveS on April 15, 2009 at 6:04 PM

gregbert on April 15, 2009 at 6:04 PM

I’m dumber for having read that.

DaveS on April 15, 2009 at 6:05 PM

Mussolini claimed that Italian Fascism’s economic system of corporatism could be identified as either state capitalism or state socialism, which in either case involved “the bureaucratization of the economic activities of the nation.

Sounds like Obama’s economic policy to me.

Norwegian on April 15, 2009 at 6:05 PM

Another tack: As Beckel signaled, leftists are going to use fear-mongering to paint mainstream taxpayers who believe in the Second Amendment, the Constitution, limited government, low taxes, and fiscal responsibility as fringe wackos.

The danger in doing this, for the Left, is that mainstream Americans don’t generally care for being called names for their beliefs. They may remain silent, but it doesn’t mean they change their minds, nor that they aren’t becoming increasingly resentful of being smeared.

DrMagnolias on April 15, 2009 at 6:05 PM

The problem is that we’ve got no easy bumper sticker wording/slogan to explain what he’s doing.

We don’t, and we need one. But “fascist” isn’t it; that won’t change a single mind. “Socialist” is closer, but still doesn’t quite cut it, I don’t think.

sandberg on April 15, 2009 at 6:05 PM

dictatorial leader, severe economic and social regimentation, and forcible suppression of opposition

He’s not a dictator and you’re certainly not being forcibly suppressed on a day when tens of thousands of people are rallying. You should exactly, but exactly, like the nutroots trying to paint Bush as some Hitler in waiting. Be thankful we don’t live in a country whose leader actually is fascist.

Allahpundit on April 15, 2009 at 6:05 PM

I will say that this guy with the Obama = Hitler sign has one leg up on the Bash = Hitler types, and that is that he sounds like a somewhat eloquent guy who could be your next door neighbor.

DaveS on April 15, 2009 at 6:06 PM

But using a fake definition of fascism is actually the correct usage?

petunia on April 15, 2009 at 6:02 PM

Using the “understood” definition is incorrect, yes. It’s connotation vs. denotation, and the fact that words evolve in their meaning over time.

Esthier on April 15, 2009 at 6:07 PM

She was confused by the fact that the guy’s sign is retarded. His case for calling Obama a fascist would be more credible if he didn’t have a sign showing him as a Nazi.

DaveS on April 15, 2009 at 5:54 PM

I agree with that statement. Obama is not Hitler. Yet. But Hitler was a socialist and so is Obama. But thus far Obama has not called for my death but I did see a pretty scary report by the Department of Homeland Security! Am I supposed to wait until I’m actually a political prisoner before I become alarmed?

petunia on April 15, 2009 at 6:07 PM

Allahpundit on April 15, 2009 at 6:01 PM

He’s a temporary fascist. Good one.

Ronnie on April 15, 2009 at 6:07 PM

Roesgen pictures herself as being of the ‘elite’ intelligentsia who are to lead us great unwashed under the vision outlined by her master, Obama. We are not cooperating and therefore have earned her scorn. Evidently Roesgen slept thru Reporting 101.

GarandFan on April 15, 2009 at 6:08 PM

Leave it to CNN to send a reporter who hasn’t a clue, but then again, they’d be hard pressed to find one of those in their posse. I also question the judgment of this father bringing his baby to the party.

pcpower1 on April 15, 2009 at 6:08 PM

So using the actual definition of fascist is a “word game”? But using a fake definition of fascism is actually the correct usage?

Ummm I think maybe you are using a little newspeak yourself there Allah.

No, I’m not, and you know it. The reason some righties are eager to call him a fascist is precisely because the term is associated with jackboots and oppression, not because they’re economic theorists. It’s a scare tactic. It’s kind of like saying “Obama is gay!!!” and then when people say “prove it,” you say, “All I meant is that he’s happy. Textbook definition!”

Allahpundit on April 15, 2009 at 6:08 PM

No, he’s not justified. The “Obama is a fascist” crowd is playing word games by citing the textbook economic definition of fascism when that’s not at all how the term is understood in the public imagination.

So … he qualifies as a fascist by the textbook definitions (certainly as pertains to the economic part) but that isn’t good enough to call him a ‘fascist’? Okey doke.

For how fascists are understood in the public imagination, the DHS report (to name but a single instance) should be enough to entertain the possibility. If that’s not enough, I can draw about a thousand other little pieces of evidence.

“Fascism” commonly refers to jackboots and Nazis. Obama’s a statist in the LBJ mold, not a new Mussolini.

Allahpundit on April 15, 2009 at 5:52 PM

The jackboots and nazi similarities are found all over the place. Haven’t you been paying attention? Do I really need to start listing them? I think we have all felt the various chills that get sent up our spines as new ideas from the adminsitration become public.

And The Precedent is nothing in the LBJ mode. That’s just silliness. But maybe you have some evidence to show this political connection? You must be thinking of something specific. Let me know and I’ll tell you why it’s incorrect, or a terrible whitewash of much harsher and dumber policy.

progressoverpeace on April 15, 2009 at 6:08 PM

Obama is too clueless to be facist. He just loves big Gov so much Michelle should be jealous.

William Amos on April 15, 2009 at 6:08 PM

The bank takeovers are a temporary measure while they’re recapitalized and restructured; you have no reason to believe otherwise.

It is going to be interesting to see the progression of GS’s attempt to pay back 10 billion.

Spirit of 1776 on April 15, 2009 at 6:08 PM

Obama isn’t embodying the definition of fascism yet.

Time will tell!

blatantblue on April 15, 2009 at 6:08 PM

Well, it’s happening. Just listened to CBS News, top of the hour, on the radio. They just did a report that “right wing extremist” groups are growing, attracting recruits from the military. The person who gave them the info? Someone from the unbiased Southern Poverty Law Center (bascially a combo of the ACLU and NAACP). So that’s going to be the mantra to silence the masses…paint everyone who protests as a right wing extremist/racist. Get ready to rumble!

Erich66 on April 15, 2009 at 6:08 PM

He’s a temporary fascist. Good one.

You don’t think President McCain would have had to take over some of these banks? Don’t kid yourself.

Allahpundit on April 15, 2009 at 6:09 PM

Come on, every one of the Presidential nominees was a fascist except for one on the Republican side. Why mince words?

The Dean on April 15, 2009 at 6:09 PM

crr6 on April 15, 2009 at 5:45 PM

Let’s see how Obama, the Democratic Party, and Obamaism registers in Stanley Payne’s Typological Description of Fascism as he gives a pretty good typology of a Fascist regime(Table I.1, page 7: A History of Fascism: 1914-1945, Stanley G. Payne, University of Wisconsin Press, 1995)

A. Ideology and Goals:
1. Espousal of an idealist, vitalist, voluntaristic philosophy, normally involving a new modern, self-determined, and secular culture. I’d say that’s a check

2. Creation of a new nationalist authoritarian state not based on traditional principles or models. While not nationalist, he does seem to possess leanings towards the authoritarian state not based on traditional principles. Let’s give that a half-check–here he’s more in the totalitarian communist vein a la Lenin or Fidel or Hugo.

3. Organization of a new highly regulated, multiclass, integrated national economic structure whether called national corporatist, national socialist, or national syndicalist. Check. See GM and the Banking and financial sectors.

4. Positive evaluation and use of, or willingness to use, violence and war. Bambi and the Democrats are currently slick enough to not openly espouse the use of violence–although they don’t disavow acts of violence committed against political enemies, and they do encourage cyberviolence in the forms of DNS attacks and bullying trolling. So…a partial check here.

5. Goal of empire, expansion, or a radical change in the nation’s relationship with other powers. Again, a partial check. We’re seeing him embracing traditional enemies while alienating recent and traditional allies. While Obama doesn’t seek a physical empire, I do think he seeks an ideological one. So…a dubious check here–we’ll need to see more first.

B. The Fascist Negation

1. Antiliberalism: Anti-liberal in the form of opposition to free expression, free markets, and a free press–yes. Here, he’s also careful to cover himself, but we’ve seen how he and his followers react to dissent; and he has made his views on a free market known. Also, while he does not physically control the press, it pretty much does he wishes. A qualified check–I think while he’d like to show his colors more, he’s not in the position to do so yet.

2. Anticommunism: No. If anything, he leans towards Marxist-Leninism, probably a combination of Maoist with Fidelist and Chavist caudilloism tossed in.

3. Anticonservatism: Most definitely. He seeks the destruction of traditional institutions.

c. Style and Organization

1. Attempted mass mobilization and militarization of political relationships and style with the goal of a mass party militia. I think we’ve seen the beginning phases of that with mandatory “voluntary” service.

2. Emphasis on aesthetic structure of meetings, symbols, and political liturgy, stressing emotional and mystical aspects. Yes!

3. Extreme stress on the masculine principle and male dominance while espousing a strongly organic view of society. While I have seen some misogynistic elements in Obamaism, at this time, I’d say this is a no.

4. Exaltation of youth above other phases of life, emphasizing the conflict of generations, at least in effecting the initial political transformation. Yes

5. Specific tendency towards an authoritarian, charismatic, personal style of command, whether or not the command is to some degree initially elective. Yes

Taking this set of criteria as our measuring standard, I’d say that Obama and the modern Democratic Party do show fascistic tendencies. Hopefully, the Tea Party movement and growing grassroots involvement and opposition will curb those tendencies.

Matt Helm on April 15, 2009 at 6:09 PM

Is this her first interview?

ctmom on April 15, 2009 at 6:09 PM

The President is a Fascist. Unfortunately using the “F” word only zeros out your credibility. Trust me, that “reporter” looked long and hard to find someone who would say on camera what many people believe but are unwilling to say aloud.

Browncoatone on April 15, 2009 at 6:09 PM

He’s not a dictator and you’re certainly not being forcibly suppressed on a day when tens of thousands of people are rallying. You should exactly, but exactly, like the nutroots trying to paint Bush as some Hitler in waiting. Be thankful we don’t live in a country whose leader actually is fascist.

Allahpundit on April 15, 2009 at 6:05 PM

Tell that to the guy in Oklahoma who had his home visited by the Secret Service after he displayed a “Abort Obama” sticker on his car.

Norwegian on April 15, 2009 at 6:10 PM

I just emailed CNN and posted at their site about the sad lack of understanding of this reporter. Her derision of that gentleman with child for not being excited about his state receiving 50 billion from the Stimulus Bill was just about the stupidest thing I have ever heard. Where the firetruck does she think the Federal government is getting the money they are passing out?

Cindy Munford on April 15, 2009 at 6:10 PM

You guys cannot be so hard up for money that you’re taking ads from Death Row t-shirts, can you?

SnarkVader on April 15, 2009 at 6:10 PM

We heard “BusHitler” for 8 years, but now all of a sudden the Hitler comparisons are out of bounds?

patriette on April 15, 2009 at 6:10 PM

Growfins:

I know a lot of people who are not Republicans who think Obama is a fascist. It is not partisan.

I don’t agree that he is, I think Allah is right. Obama is a statist. I do think he is a narcissist as well. The problem is that after 8 years of insane paranoia and name calling from the left, people have lost sight of what these terms once meant in a world of Hitlers and Stalins.

Terrye on April 15, 2009 at 6:11 PM

Are we arguing what the defintion of ‘is’ is?

HornetSting on April 15, 2009 at 6:11 PM

The jackboots and nazi similarities are found all over the place. Haven’t you been paying attention? Do I really need to start listing them? I think we have all felt the various chills that get sent up our spines as new ideas from the adminsitration become public.

progressoverpeace on April 15, 2009 at 6:08 PM

If this is acceptable logic, then I need to rethink all of those times I called the left moonbats for worrying about Bush using wireless surveillance, indefinite detention without trial, etc. Maybe we just weren’t paying attention at the time… just because Bush wasn’t using it on anyone aside from terrorists YET didn’t mean he wasn’t going to!

Yeah, you’re all turning into moonbats. Stop it, please.

DaveS on April 15, 2009 at 6:11 PM

I went ot one in the people’s republic of santa barbara and there were about 800-900 people. Not one single TV news camera there. We had five kids out on a corner about the Palis and it was covered by all the local TV stations.

jukin on April 15, 2009 at 6:12 PM

Obama is a communist.

patriette on April 15, 2009 at 6:12 PM

So … he qualifies as a fascist by the textbook definitions

Except, he doesn’t. He’s not a dictator, although he may wish he were.

(certainly as pertains to the economic part)

Meeting part of the definition of the word isn’t enough.

Yes, we should be alarmed. Absolutely. But saying “fascist” is incorrect, and sounds nutty, frankly.

sandberg on April 15, 2009 at 6:12 PM

Allahpundit on April 15, 2009 at 6:09 PM

Allah, then what do you think Obama “is”?

Marxist comes to mind for me.

upinak on April 15, 2009 at 6:12 PM

Cindy Munford on April 15, 2009 at 6:10 PM

You will get a sincere apology, and that reporter will be reprimanded.

PSH if only!!!!! Frickin CNN

blatantblue on April 15, 2009 at 6:12 PM

It’s 6 P.M. EDT, it must be time to check in for the trolls. They have become invisible on all threads.

thomasaur on April 15, 2009 at 6:12 PM

BTW, the Southern Poverty Law Center is playing the Timothy McVeigh card as well.

Erich66 on April 15, 2009 at 6:12 PM

The bank takeovers are a temporary measure while they’re recapitalized and restructured; you have no reason to believe otherwise. But as I say, fascism really goes hand in hand with militarism, at least as commonly understood. The One is no militarist.

Allahpundit on April 15, 2009 at 6:01 PM

When it comes to any government takeover, including the banks, I do believe otherwise, because I have yet to see the federal government involve itself in something and later remove itself. Regarding militarism, you may be correct that there is not yet reason to believe otherwise; I hope there never is, but it wouldn’t be the first time in history–only the first time here.

DrMagnolias on April 15, 2009 at 6:13 PM

Taking this set of criteria as our measuring standard, I’d say that Obama and the modern Democratic Party do show fascistic tendencies. Hopefully, the Tea Party movement and growing grassroots involvement and opposition will curb those tendencies.

Matt Helm on April 15, 2009 at 6:09 PM

I don’t have time, unfortunately, to argue with commenters intent on demonizing Obama in precisely the same way the left did to Bush. I don’t think most righties believe Obama’s a fascist, no matter what the media would like to think, but there’s obviously a certain segment of partisans on each side who are going to treat a president from the other party as a tyrant in waiting. That’s sad, but it’s probably life. Good news for CNN, though, I guess.

Allahpundit on April 15, 2009 at 6:13 PM

You don’t think President McCain would have had to take over some of these banks? Don’t kid yourself.

Having to do it and wanting to are different explanations.

Let’s not kid ourselves, AP, as to the desire to use this crisis to greatly expand the state’s power and authority over the economy.

No, he’s not a fascist but he clearly is using the crisis to fundamentally change the economy.

SteveMG on April 15, 2009 at 6:14 PM

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