The execrable DHS report on “right-wing extremism”

posted at 10:57 am on April 14, 2009 by Ed Morrissey

Michelle has it covered pretty well, but I looked at the DHS report on “right-wing extremism” myself, and it’s every bit as bad as she says, and as Roger Hedgecock and the Liberty Papers first reported.  The DHS fails to provide any specifics at all, preferring instead to smear half of the country or more as kooks for criticizing the government’s handling of the economy.  As Eli Lake reports, the DHS has all but declared war on federalism, which used to be the founding concept of our republic:

The Department of Homeland Security is warning law enforcement officials about a rise in “rightwing extremist activity,” saying the economic recession, the election of America’s first black president and the return of a few disgruntled war veterans could swell the ranks of white-power militias.

A footnote attached to the report by the Homeland Security Office of Intelligence and Analysis defines “rightwing extremism in the United States” as including not just racist or hate groups, but also groups that reject federal authority in favor of state or local authority.

“It may include groups and individuals that are dedicated to a single-issue, such as opposition to abortion or immigration,” the warning says.

The first question we should ask is whether the DHS is reacting to any specific threats at all?  Er … no (emphasis mine):

The DHS/Office of Intelligence and Analysis (I&A) has no specific information that domestic rightwing* terrorists are currently planning acts of violence, but rightwing extremists may be gaining new recruits by playing on their fears about several emergent issues.

This gets repeated over and over again during the report.  They have no threat information.  In fact, the report can’t even say definitively whether “extremists” are gaining “new recruits”.  In order to find that, they’d have to identify the actual groups, note the recruiting patterns, and determine whether in fact they’re gaining recruits or losing members.  Bottom line: DHS has no actual data.  They’re pulling threats out of their collective arse and publishing them without any supporting research whatsoever.

DHS acts as though white-supremacist groups and militias believing in Zionist world conspiracies stopped existing between 2000 and 2008.  Of course they didn’t; George Bush’s strong support for Israel fed those nutcase groups for eight years.  Are those groups growing in the last five months, after what DHS assumes is the trigger for all this hate — the election of Barack Obama?  They provide absolutely no evidence at all for it, and in fact repeat over and over again that they don’t have that data in a hail of May Bes.

So what’s triggered their antennae?

The current economic and political climate has some similarities to the 1990s when rightwing extremism experienced a resurgence fueled largely by an economic recession, criticism about the outsourcing of jobs, and the perceived threat to U.S. power and sovereignty by other foreign powers.

In the first place, the “outsourcing of jobs” outrage didn’t get stoked by the Right.  That outrage got fed by the Democrats in the last two elections, and it’s a feature of the same anti-globalization loons of the hard Left that continually disrupt G-20 summits as they violently did in London.  Barack Obama himself stoked a fair share of it during the presidential campaign with his NAFTA Dance.

And should we not have some concern about the economic recession, debate about trade policy, and insist on maintaining American power and sovereignty?  Since when did those topics indicate criminality and terrorism?

DHS also manages to make several hysterical references to returning veterans.  I’ll highlight the weasel words and provide the translation at the end:

The possible passage of new restrictions on firearms and the return of military veterans facing significant challenges reintegrating into their communities could lead to the potential emergence of terrorist groups or lone wolf extremists capable of carrying out violent attacks.

Gee, it could lead?  What evidence does DHS have of this?  Oh, yeah, Timothy McVeigh was a veteran … and that’s it.  I’m not joking:

After Operation Desert Shield/Storm in 1990-1991, some returning military veterans—including Timothy McVeigh—joined or associated with rightwing extremist groups.

So let’s be terrified of veterans!  Let’s treat them all like potential suspects, even though we don’t have one iota of evidence of any wrongdoing at all.  Yeah, that’s the American way.

Imagine, if you will, what the Left would say if we took this entire document and replaced all references to “military veterans” with “Muslims”, and all references to “abortion” with “universal health care”, and then predated this DHS report to 2008, during the Bush administration.  They’d be screaming about being smeared as traitors for their political beliefs, and they’d be right to do so.  That’s exactly what the Obama administration and Janet Napolitano has done here.

This is a disgrace.  Congress should demand Napolitano’s resignation immediately, and the White House should apologize for this attack on normal political dissent.

Update: A few say that the DHS has to track threats and give these kinds of assessments.  Read the report again.  DHS can’t find any threats, nor do they provide even a hint that they have any evidence that extremism on the Right has increased.  They don’t claim to see increases in fringe-group memberships from last year, or even last decade.  This report is filled with nothing but completely unsupported conjecture about what might happen if people get upset about the economy or a retreat on American sovereignty.  It’s not an honest national-security threat assessment at all.  It’s a political hit piece aimed at this administration’s critics in order to cast them as extremists.

Update II: My friend Jazz Shaw files this under “fauxrage”, which makes a nice companion set with Obamteurisms.  Read the whole thing, but I’ll challenge my pal to identify one actual threat cited by DHS, or one set of actual data in the entire report.  Oh, and the veteran thing?  I’m not the one who took offense to that.  Talk to the American Legion, which is extremely unhappy with DHS at the moment.

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I’m really shocked at the percentage of people who don’t realize that our form of government is a representative democratic republic.
For now.

carbon_footprint on April 14, 2009 at 9:23 PM

It doesn’t matter that Obama “won” (by 53%)–He wasn’t given carte blanche to destroy the fine republic we have and put a Socialist/Marxist nightmare in its place.

Jenfidel on April 14, 2009 at 9:21 PM

+1

That is exactly what these trolls ignore. Winning an election does not give one the right to outlaw opposition! When they were in the outs protests and opposition were patriotic…now it’s dangerous and subversive.

jwp1964 on April 14, 2009 at 9:24 PM

Timothy McVeigh

We should also be wary of everyone of Scottish descent, everyone with a Biblical first name, & all men.

eea on April 14, 2009 at 9:25 PM

We need to have input before Ogabe commits this nation and the next 3 generations of our citizens to trillions of dollars of debt and deficits for things we don’t want, don’t need and which won’t create jobs or stimulate the economy.

Jenfidel on April 14, 2009 at 9:14 PM

I think is the stronger point. Sure, Obama is a pathological liar who makes Bill Clinton seem a boy scout in comparison, but the real problem is that Obama is openly looting the treasury.

I think we all expected he would pay off his friends and allies…but to the scope of trillions?

18-1 on April 14, 2009 at 9:25 PM

I

f you don’t want to be called crazy, maybe you could try…oh, I don’t know… NOT being crazy?

Mal Carne on April 14, 2009 at 9:14 PM

After you, sir. (And that’s being polite.)
I know of no-one that threatened the lives of the Ditsy Chicks, but I could make a very long list of the Democrats who wanted President Bush to be assassinated or at least impeached and who had no problem saying “F*ck Bush” in public which encourages crazies on both the Left and the Right to try and bring serious harm to him.
You’re side is all full up on crazy–don’t pin that straw man on us!

Jenfidel on April 14, 2009 at 9:26 PM

It doesn’t matter that Obama “won” (by 53%)–He wasn’t given carte blanche to destroy the fine republic we have and put a Socialist/Marxist nightmare in its place.

Jenfidel on April 14, 2009 at 9:21 PM

Thanks for answering. And I agree with your basic premise. but after living through the kennedy assassination, Viet Nam protests, Watergate, Carter, etc. I am optimistic that good sense will prevail. there have been much darker times. And the senators and representatives will not give up their power and privilege lightly. Obama is already finding that out.
The tea parties are a good idea and bring out the best in what I think our country is about; movements starting small and becoming way too big to ignore (God help me I had a helen reddy moment!). In my opinion that is what we MUST emphasize or we risk being marginalized by the people crying for civil war and armed revolution.

Bradky on April 14, 2009 at 9:26 PM

I’m flat-out hyperventilating here. Watching this thread swing between whining about being treated by a threat by the government and threatening to overthrow the government that treats it as a threat is just too schizophrenically comic for words.

I’m still really confused, though. What is Obama exactly doing, again, to destroy the country? You do realize that taxes were 10% higher under Reagan, right? Right?

Mal Carne on April 14, 2009 at 9:28 PM

It doesn’t matter that Obama “won” (by 53%)–He wasn’t given carte blanche to destroy the fine republic we have and put a Socialist/Marxist nightmare in its place.

Jenfidel on April 14, 2009 at 9:21 PM

I remember all those people who I ran into who claimed that Obama was going to cut our taxes and lower the deficit went. I swear every day in every forum I went into some “lifelong Republican” was telling me that while John McBush III was going to run deficits of perhaps hundreds of billions of dollars for the foreseeable future, Obama was going to balance the budget without raising taxes or inflating our currency…

18-1 on April 14, 2009 at 9:29 PM

I only speak for myself. I am no longer concerned with what I am labeled. I pay 35% in FICA alone. I have no representation for my labor. My vote counts for nothing because it is easily reduced by fraud.

Where does one man who pays his bills, taxes, and obeys the law turn? No one is is looking out for me and and even worse, I am the object of ridicule because I dare say, ENOUGH. This is not about being unhappy with the outcome of the election. It is not about being a militant racist. It is not about hating others who hold diffent views.

This is about a line that has been crossed. I am mocked and laughed at. I am told that a bow is not a bow. I am told to pay my taxes or else, even though the Sec of the Treas can disregard his own taxes. This is about one man who has followed the rules and who is not looking for anyting but to be left alone. This is about me saying I have had my fill of your slander and ungrateful treatment.

John D on April 14, 2009 at 9:29 PM

Left laughing like, I don’t know, appointing a tax cheat as the treas sec? Funny alright.

John D on April 14, 2009 at 9:02 PM

That’s really not fair. It isn’t like anyone in the Obama administration ever said paying taxes was, oh patriotic, or anything like that.

18-1 on April 14, 2009 at 9:32 PM

That’s really not fair. It isn’t like anyone in the Obama administration ever said paying taxes was, oh patriotic, or anything like that.

18-1 on April 14, 2009 at 9:32 PM

You’re right. I have no shame tonight. But, shouldn’t a Treas Sec, you know, be an example?

John D on April 14, 2009 at 9:35 PM

The tea parties are a good idea and bring out the best in what I think our country is about; movements starting small and becoming way too big to ignore (God help me I had a helen reddy moment!). In my opinion that is what we MUST emphasize or we risk being marginalized by the people crying for civil war and armed revolution.

Bradky on April 14, 2009 at 9:26 PM

I don’t think anyone is crying for civil war or revolution. I think it is our assessment that the crazies on the left will push so far that there will be no other option. Each of us probably has a line (I hope we do) or freedom will die under these fascist lefties. You’re certainly right that we don’t want to give the feds an excuse and the media an opportunity to paint anyone at the tea parties with the crazy brush.

jwp1964 on April 14, 2009 at 9:36 PM

Hm, if they were to do a “leftwing” assessment I wonder where Bill Ayers would fit into that scenario?

carbon_footprint on April 14, 2009 at 9:36 PM

I’m still really confused, though. What is Obama exactly doing, again, to destroy the country? You do realize that taxes were 10% higher under Reagan, right? Right?

Mal Carne on April 14, 2009 at 9:28 PM

It took President Reagan a while to bring taxes down from Jimmy Carter levels and he was beefing up the defense budget to bring down the Evil Empire.
Obama, however, is a different story: his budget threatens to triple or quadruple our debts and deficits to the point that even the Chinese have said “Enough.”
Reagan’s rate will be a fond memory.
The man means to bankrupt all of us, give amnesty to illegals, gut missile defense, defense spending and the military, while trying to appease our enemies abroad and tossing out entitlement benefits to his political friends at home.

Jenfidel on April 14, 2009 at 9:37 PM

I believe their pool of potential right wing extremists also includes Bigfoot and Sammy Davis JR.

Jerricho68 on April 14, 2009 at 9:38 PM

You’re right. I have no shame tonight. But, shouldn’t a Treas Sec, you know, be an example?

John D on April 14, 2009 at 9:35 PM

Indeed he should be!
And given his pathetic performance as SecTreasury, he hasn’t justified our overlooking what is potentially a federal crime.

Jenfidel on April 14, 2009 at 9:43 PM

I think it is our assessment that the crazies on the left will push so far that there will be no other option.

jwp1964 on April 14, 2009 at 9:36 PM

Then I submit it is our challenge to convince the regular democrats and independents whose differences are not that far from our thoughts that they side with us (speaking in voting meaning only!). Reagan did it – it can be done again. But it may require more people putting effort into the gentle persuasion. I think we keep hoping for another Reagan while underselling our individual talent to persuade.

Bradky on April 14, 2009 at 9:46 PM

potentially a federal crime.

Jenfidel on April 14, 2009 at 9:43 PM

You’re not suggesting good lady that you and I, in a similar circumstance, might be treated differently, are you?

John D on April 14, 2009 at 9:47 PM

Let’s not forget: We’re also supposed to be delighted to pay taxes to support abortions-both abroad and at home–and to do things like give $900 MILLION to the Paleostinians to rebuild Gaza after they trashed it and blamed it on the Israelis.
Oh, wait…I forgot that we “Right Wing Extremists” are supposed to hate Jews and blame them for everything including our economic problems!
I’m getting confused! LOL

Jenfidel on April 14, 2009 at 9:48 PM

You’re not suggesting good lady that you and I, in a similar circumstance, might be treated differently, are you?

John D on April 14, 2009 at 9:47 PM

LOL-well, yeah!
If I owe the IRS even a couple of hundred bucks, they harass me until I can’t stand it anymore!
(How did Geithner escape?!)
I don’t want to know about the part where they attach your house and send you to jail if you really, really don’t pay them, because I believe all the stories I’ve ever heard about that!
Ben Franklin had it right: the only 2 things that are a certainty are death and taxes.

Jenfidel on April 14, 2009 at 9:50 PM

Jenfidel on April 14, 2009 at 9:48 PM

Don’t forget the 4 billion payback to Acorn AND the promise of amnesty to illegal aliens for bringing the hispanic vote. 300K jobs to non-citizens when our people are losing jobs at an alarming rate….

HornetSting on April 14, 2009 at 9:51 PM

This is why I brought up the Nugent thing. I was pointing out that it’s not hard to find rightwingers showing sheer Right wing hate of Liberals.

Like I indicated before, go and google K*ll Obama (without the censoring) and you’ll see stuff comes up – some of it is from rightwing loonies.

This really isnt that big of a deal. Some leftwingers are loonies (like the dummies who called for Bush to be assassinated) and some rightwingers are. To deny this is to deny reality.

orange on April 14, 2009 at 8:19 PM

I don’t see where that is at all relevant. Ted Nugent isn’t head of DHS.

ddrintn on April 14, 2009 at 9:53 PM

^ Just more of the usual “tu quoque” stuff. *Yawn*

ddrintn on April 14, 2009 at 9:53 PM

I think we keep hoping for another Reagan while underselling our individual talent to persuade.

Bradky on April 14, 2009 at 9:46 PM

I agree with your premise, BUT have you tried to have a civil discourse with your average democrat these days? The moment you voice any concern, difference or ideological thought not in line with dem talking points their eyes bulge out, they turn red and call you names. You have hit on what I consider to be a major problem in our balkanized society…there is no willingness to debate…there is only a willingness to impose. It’s crazy out there. I once had a number of way left of center friends, now, because I don’t unquestionably support the one I am persona non grata. They don’t believe that I can have reasonable thought out differences of opinion. Civil discourse is dead.

jwp1964 on April 14, 2009 at 9:54 PM

HornetSting on April 14, 2009 at 9:51 PM

I read the latest, uh “payback” to ACORN was 5.7 billion. But hey, what’s another 1.7 billion among the community activists, right?

And Jenfidel, I once took an early disbursment on a 401K during my divorce, and let me assure you that the IRS WILL GET THEIR MONEY! Unless of course, you are a friend of the TOTUS. Then, you get a plum job.

John D on April 14, 2009 at 9:55 PM

They don’t believe that I can have reasonable thought out differences of opinion. Civil discourse is dead.

jwp1964 on April 14, 2009 at 9:54 PM

I have had several civil discourses with democrats. What I do first is establish what things we agree on and then both of us are more open to examining the areas of differences in a more clinical manner. too many people make sweeping statements that put someone on the defensive from the start and no meaningful discussion is possible at that point. Takes work and practice but it can be done.

Bradky on April 14, 2009 at 9:57 PM

jwp1964 on April 14, 2009 at 9:54 PM

Yes, my own sister won’t speak to me because I said that any friend of Bill Ayers was an enemy to America. Now, we have no realtionship at all. It’s unfortunate but I said what I meant. I suppose that makes me one of these crazy right wingers…

John D on April 14, 2009 at 9:58 PM

Hey! I thought dissent was patriotic!?!?!?! That’s what all the libs keep telling me for 8 years. When did the rules change?

Andy in Agoura Hills on April 14, 2009 at 5:33 PM

WHen 53% became transmogrified into something like 99.1%. Just typical lefty overreach.

ddrintn on April 14, 2009 at 9:59 PM

John D on April 14, 2009 at 9:58 PM

that’s too bad – we have differing politics in our family but have recognized it for a long time and simply avoid that as a table discussion.
Family is too important to lose. I sincerely hope you and her mend the fences before it is too late and one of you lives the rest of your days with a terrible sadness to carry.

Bradky on April 14, 2009 at 10:01 PM

I suppose that makes me one of these crazy right wingers…

John D on April 14, 2009 at 9:58 PM

I guess we’re both on the DHS watch list!

jwp1964 on April 14, 2009 at 10:02 PM

John D on April 14, 2009 at 9:29 PM

Totally awesome post. Says it all. Thank you.

koz on April 14, 2009 at 10:09 PM

You do realize that taxes were 10% higher under Reagan, right? Right?

Yes, but where were they when he took office compared to when he left office? Very disingenuous of you.

jimmy2shoes on April 14, 2009 at 10:11 PM

I have had several civil discourses with democrats.
Bradky on April 14, 2009 at 9:57 PM

I’ve been debating politics for decades, and something fundamentally changed around 2004/5. There were always people on both sides who were more interested in screaming and naming calling then debate, but for the most part you could have an argument as to whether taxes were too high, Clinton/Bush 41/Reagan/etc were doing something right or wrong, or what have you.

Then suddenly, Bush was the devil. Or maybe Cheney was the devil and Bush his evil puppet. Or was it Rove? Anyway, if you did not agree that Bush and co were the devil, there was no point talking to you – because you were a dupe or a fascist, or perhaps both.

This hate has now solidified itself as love of Obama. If you criticize the man or his policies the answer is always one of three things;

1) Bush’s fault. Shut Up.
2) Bush did it too so you can’t criticize Obama for it – oh, and shut up.
3) You are a fascist and should shut up.

So, while I think you can talk with the politically uninformed, you cannot talk with members of the left in the same you could even a few years ago.

18-1 on April 14, 2009 at 10:14 PM

But Charles Johnson says that some bloggers, prompted by World Net Daily, are just being ludicrous, and we shouldn’t trust the distorted claims being made.

Jeff G’s got another take on it all. I’ve got a sidebar icon for the whole thing.

Jay on April 14, 2009 at 10:14 PM

1) Bush’s fault. Shut Up.
2) Bush did it too so you can’t criticize Obama for it – oh, and shut up.
3) You are a fascist and should shut up.

So, while I think you can talk with the politically uninformed, you cannot talk with members of the left in the same you could even a few years ago.

18-1 on April 14, 2009 at 10:14 PM

You forgot the number 1 response…wait for it…you’re a racist!

jwp1964 on April 14, 2009 at 10:17 PM

But Charles Johnson says that “some bloggers”, prompted by World Net Daily, are just being ludicrous and that we shouldn’t trust their distorted claims. He says the right side blogosphere is hyperventilating.

Jay on April 14, 2009 at 10:18 PM

18-1 and John D: Great rants above! Thank you! :-)

Jenfidel on April 14, 2009 at 10:20 PM

John D on April 14, 2009 at 9:58 PM

Hey, John, I went thru the same thing. Come from a very liberal family, I’m one of 4 in the group that is openly conservative.

I usually keep my mouth shut at family gatherings. Besides, I think it’s rude to get in an argument when we’re together for someone’s wedding, or birthday, like that. There’s a time and place for everything, or so I was taught.

But I take some AWFUL verbal beatings because I never hide the fact that I am a conservative in my thinking, my politics.

With a father who held elected office for a number of years, I can tell you that the folks in Congress aren’t half as hard on each other as the citizens are. Imagine my shock the first time I saw my Dad [Dem] get into a blazing ‘debate’ on the House floor with a Republican, and as soon as session closed for the day, everybody goes to the nearest watering hole for drinks!

koz on April 14, 2009 at 10:22 PM

You forgot the number 1 response…wait for it…you’re a racist!

jwp1964 on April 14, 2009 at 10:17 PM

I pretty much consider any of the various leftwing ad hominems to fit in the same mold in answer #3 – fascist, racist, misogynist, etc.

Essentially the word means “someone I don’t like”, or even, as some of our local leftwing posters have shown, “someone I think I don’t like since some non-leftwinger is quoting him, but I am too lazy to look up.”

18-1 on April 14, 2009 at 10:23 PM

I do know for a fact that Charles Johnson’s mother was diagnosed with cancer sometime last year. I am not sure if she survived or not. Might have something to do with his behavior. I always liked him but the Creationism bashing just got too routine for me.

carbon_footprint on April 14, 2009 at 10:30 PM

I wonder if Janet will be lurking around the tea parties tomorrow, writing down license plate numbers?

HornetSting on April 14, 2009 at 10:30 PM

You think? You sound pretty impressed with yourself. No. I think that you’re the one who wouldn’t do well in the outside world. There’s no hand-holding for starters.

capitulus on April 14, 2009 at 8:40 PM

You seem pretty impressed with yourself. I guess that you are easily impressed.

Johan Klaus on April 14, 2009 at 10:37 PM

The lefties are out tonight. I guess that the tea parties have got them scared.

Johan Klaus on April 14, 2009 at 10:38 PM

but the Creationism bashing jihad just got too routine for me.

carbon_footprint on April 14, 2009 at 10:30 PM

FIFY

bikermailman on April 14, 2009 at 10:38 PM

The lefties are out tonight. I guess that the tea parties have got them scared.

Johan Klaus on April 14, 2009 at 10:38 PM

I think they’re fumigating under the rock, Johan.

HornetSting on April 14, 2009 at 10:42 PM

I think they’re fumigating under the rock, Johan.

HornetSting on April 14, 2009 at 10:42 PM

Damn it, beer all over my laptop…LMAO

jwp1964 on April 14, 2009 at 10:45 PM

The Department of Homeland Security is warning law enforcement officials about a rise in “rightwing extremist activity,” saying the economic recession, the election of America’s first black president and the return of a few disgruntled war veterans could swell the ranks of white-power militias.

I guess the D’s got what they campaigned for… Unity that is… Yeah, us extremist right-wingers tend to rally together whenever the pinheads start, uh, what’s the word, discriminating against mislabeling us…

Upstater85 on April 14, 2009 at 10:50 PM

The lefties are out tonight. I guess that the tea parties have got them scared.

Johan Klaus on April 14, 2009 at 10:38 PM

I don’t know if it makes them scared, but it for darn sure makes them angry. Angry that we aren’t shutting up and swallowing the GARBAGE this administration is trying to shove down our throats. Sorry about that Lib fools, but Barry needs to see that the other 47% (and growing) portion of America isn’t buying his B.S.

anniekc on April 14, 2009 at 10:53 PM

I see Janet Napolitano has driven rightwing chatter to a new, higher level. Nice work!

Kralizec on April 14, 2009 at 10:55 PM

I’m still really confused, though. What is Obama exactly doing, again, to destroy the country?

Mal Carne on April 14, 2009 at 9:28 PM

Ask your grandchildren when it is time to pay off the deficit and inflation is rampant.

Johan Klaus on April 14, 2009 at 10:56 PM

Let’s not forget: We’re also supposed to be delighted to pay taxes to support abortions-both abroad and at home–and to do things like give $900 MILLION to the Paleostinians to rebuild Gaza after they trashed it and blamed it on the Israelis.
Oh, wait…I forgot that we “Right Wing Extremists” are supposed to hate Jews and blame them for everything including our economic problems!
I’m getting confused! LOL

Jenfidel on April 14, 2009 at 9:48 PM

How much federal money was spent on this stupid DHS political smear? We were assured that our financial situation was so dire, upon Obama’s ascension to office, that we had to pass a trillion-dollar spending bill in a matter of days, without any serious debate. We were not allowed to question any of the items on that bill, or take time to consider free-market alternatives to “stimulate” the economy. The crisis was so dire that the slightest hesitation could not be tolerated.

Since then, we’ve found out the government has hundreds of millions to give to Hamas, hundreds of millions to spend on a huge fleet of luxurious helicopters for Obama, billions to spend on propping up the auto companies that employ Obama’s faithful constituents in the UAW. The federal government has shown not the slightest interest in disciplining itself or cutting down on extravagant spending… except for cutting the military budget, of course. Party apparatchiks floating on an ocean of money dine on pizza cooked by a jet-setting chef while they tell the rest of us we’re going to have to start handing over industries to them, so they can manage them more wisely than we non-governmental louts.

They spend billions of our dollars buying a financial-service company that they almost immediately render worthless through bad management, encouraging mob violence and shredding legal contracts and Constitutional rights to make working there an act of pure insanity. They spend billions more to postpone the bankruptcy of General Motors by a couple of months. Then they inform us they’re in the final stages of implementing a plan to seize the health care industry, which they’ve been working on for decades, because we private-sector types obviously cannot be trusted to run such an essential part of the economy.

Every single dollar spent by Obama’s government, over and above the Treasury receipts for the previous fiscal year, is a dollar stolen from future generations – a dollar we are entitled to take from them, because we’re far more capable of “investing” it intelligently than they will be. Our needs trump theirs, because they’re helpless and voiceless. Every dollar spent on any of the government’s extravagances is a contemptuous slap at an unborn constituency that won’t be able to say a word until long after Obama and his cronies are safely tucked away in their lavish retirements, with many of them counting piles of money they looted from Fannie Mae and similar racketeering operations, and all of them enjoying exclusive top-shelf health care they will have made illegal for the rest of us.

Like the high priests of environmentalism, who stomp the countryside with Cloverfield-sized carbon footprints while they tell the rest of us we should hate ourselves for driving anything bigger than a golf cart, the clergy of Obama’s sacred state are not to be taken seriously until they start acting like they are living in the same financial crisis they insist overrides the rest of our freedoms. This overspent, confused, exhausted government is going to need a huge amount of revenue to cover its credit card bills, or it will soon find itself arriving at the moment when foreign investors begin refusing to loan it any more money. Those demands for revenue are going to hit fast and hard, accompanied by very vigorous efforts to ensure no one is able to escape them.

That is the purpose behind the DHS report: to lay the groundwork for de-legitimizing current and future opposition to the seizures of wealth that lie ahead. By itself, it’s an insult. It won’t be clear how toxic it really is until a few months from now, when it becomes a footnote. It’s time for a conservative population that has long been told it’s stupid, greedy, short-sighted, and dangerous to clear its throat and make some tea.

Doctor Zero on April 14, 2009 at 10:59 PM

I see Janet Napolitano has driven rightwing chatter to a new, higher level. Nice work!

Kralizec on April 14, 2009 at 10:55 PM

Shh, Big Sister is watching.

carbon_footprint on April 14, 2009 at 11:00 PM

I see Janet Napolitano has driven rightwing chatter to a new, higher level. Nice work!

Kralizec on April 14, 2009 at 10:55 PM

What’s the difference between Janet Napolitano and Janet Reno… uh… job? The lefties sure know how to organize the base … the extreme right base that is…

Upstater85 on April 14, 2009 at 11:02 PM

Janet Napolitano and Janet Reno
WWYD?

carbon_footprint on April 14, 2009 at 11:08 PM

WWYD?

carbon_footprint on April 14, 2009 at 11:08 PM

?

Upstater85 on April 14, 2009 at 11:19 PM

Doctor Zero on April 14, 2009 at 10:59 PM

And folks, the Doc ain’t whistling Dixie!

Limerick on April 14, 2009 at 11:26 PM

Ask your grandchildren when it is time to pay off the deficit and inflation is rampant.

Johan Klaus on April 14, 2009 at 10:56 PM

Heh – Well, Johan, in court the defense must remain silent unless called to the stand or to give plea.

Blacksmith on April 14, 2009 at 11:29 PM

I wonder if Janet will be lurking around the tea parties tomorrow, writing down license plate numbers?
HornetSting on April 14, 2009 at 10:30 PM

Only those of the cute girls.

TexasJew on April 14, 2009 at 11:33 PM

?

Upstater85 on April 14, 2009 at 11:19 PM

Who Would You Do?
I know, torturous. Sometimes my twisted mind takes control.
:smile:

carbon_footprint on April 14, 2009 at 11:34 PM

I wonder if Janet will be lurking around the tea parties tomorrow, writing down license plate numbers?
HornetSting on April 14, 2009 at 10:30 PM

Only those of the cute girls.

TexasJew on April 14, 2009 at 11:33 PM

Ugh.

HornetSting on April 14, 2009 at 11:35 PM

Everyone needs to back off on Neapolitan. If Janet Reno can kidnap a six year old boy at gun point and send him off to a commie country then Neapolitan has a lot of work to do to catch up.

Limerick on April 14, 2009 at 11:38 PM

Is Capulus still here? I was going to ask it what does he know what a Born Again Christian really was all about? I was also going to ask him what bible verses makes it right wing? Apparently on the issues he has no answers similar to Kerry back in 04, whereas when asked what was his Iraq plan was. Cap better be vigilant because his ilk maybe on the chopping block next after the gov’t does away with all the conservatives. Better be vigilant cap.

garydt on April 14, 2009 at 11:39 PM

Whatever, moran.

capitulus on April 14, 2009 at 2:51 PM

How cute. It learned a new word.

Nuts4koi on April 14, 2009 at 11:40 PM

Imagine No Obama
Above us only sky

probably showing my age; but these
rocky stressful tumultuous days remind me so
much of 1968. Very similar tactics in the
street. watch your six.

falderal on April 14, 2009 at 11:40 PM

That is exactly what these trolls ignore. Winning an election does not give one the right to outlaw opposition! When they were in the outs protests and opposition were patriotic…now it’s dangerous and subversive.

jwp1964 on April 14, 2009 at 9:24 PM

For in a Republic, who is “the country?” Is it the Government which is for the moment in the saddle? Why, the Government is merely a servant- merely a temporary servant; it cannot be its prerogative to determine what is right and what is wrong, and decide who is a patriot and who isn’t. Its function is to obey orders, not originate them. Patriotism is supporting your country ALL the time, and your government ONLY when it deserves it.
- Mark Twain

MB4 on April 14, 2009 at 11:41 PM

Imagine No Obama
Above us only sky

falderal on April 14, 2009 at 11:40 PM

Imagine there’s no Obama lording over us
It’s hard but you can try
No power hungry fascists coming down at us
Above us only free blue sky
Imagine all the American people
Still free today…

Imagine there’s no enemies of the state list
It’s hard but you can try
No control freaks to worry about if they at us get pist
And no fascist DHS Secretaries too
Imagine all free Americans
Living life without them…

You may say I’m a dreamer
But I’m not the only one
I hope someday all the sheeple will join us
And free Americans will be as one

Imagine no Imperial Presidendcy
I wonder if you can
No need for Prince Harry or Queen Nancy
A brotherhood of free American woman and man
Imagine all the people
Living without fascism…

You may say I’m a dreamer
But I’m not the only one
I hope someday all the sheeple will join us
And free Americans will be as one

MB4 on April 14, 2009 at 11:58 PM

Who Would You Do?
I know, torturous. Sometimes my twisted mind takes control.
:smile:

carbon_footprint on April 14, 2009 at 11:34 PM

Ah… I can finally use one of getalife’s lines:

What’s teh diff?

The question is, if each Janet had a bigmac, which one would MegMac try to seduce?

Upstater85 on April 15, 2009 at 12:00 AM

Only those of the cute girls.

TexasJew on April 14, 2009 at 11:33 PM

The left’s definition of cute is something very twisted… So if you are a male trucker, Janet may just find you “cute.”

Upstater85 on April 15, 2009 at 12:02 AM

Imagine there’s no Obama lording over us
It’s hard but you can try
No power hungry fascists coming down at us
Above us only free blue sky
Imagine all the American people
Still free today…

Imagine there’s no enemies of the state list
It’s hard but you can try
No control freaks to worry about if they at us get pist
And no fascist DHS Secretaries too
Imagine all free Americans
Living life without them…

You may say I’m a dreamer
But I’m not the only one
I hope someday all the sheeple will join us
And free Americans will be as one

Imagine no Imperial Presidendcy
I wonder if you can
No need for Prince Harry or Queen Nancy
A brotherhood of free American woman and man
Imagine all the people
Living without fascism…

You may say I’m a dreamer
But I’m not the only one
I hope someday all the sheeple will join us
And free Americans will be as one

MB4 on April 14, 2009 at 11:58 PM

+100

Upstater85 on April 15, 2009 at 12:04 AM

Who Would You Do?
I know, torturous. Sometimes my twisted mind takes control.
:smile:

carbon_footprint on April 14, 2009 at 11:34 PM
Ah… I can finally use one of getalife’s lines:

What’s teh diff?

The question is, if each Janet had a bigmac, which one would MegMac try to seduce?

Upstater85 on April 15, 2009 at 12:00 AM

Ugh. My eyes, must wash my eyes out with listerine. Bleh.

HornetSting on April 15, 2009 at 12:07 AM

The question is, if each Janet had a bigmac, which one would MegMac try to seduce?

Upstater85 on April 15, 2009 at 12:00 AM

You make Allahpundit cry.
: (

carbon_footprint on April 15, 2009 at 12:08 AM

Ugh. My eyes, must wash my eyes out with listerine. Bleh.

HornetSting on April 15, 2009 at 12:07 AM

As far as I know, MegMac isn’t addicted to Listerine yet…

You make Allahpundit cry.
: (

carbon_footprint on April 15, 2009 at 12:08 AM

I think we can agree that there needs to be a new trutherism movement… The Truth about MegMac…

Upstater85 on April 15, 2009 at 12:12 AM

All units be on the lookout for any caucasians buying ammo and listening to Rush/Hannity/Levin. All units respond.

long_cat on April 15, 2009 at 12:20 AM

All units be on the lookout for any caucasians buying ammo and listening to Rush/Hannity/Levin. All units respond.

long_cat on April 15, 2009 at 12:20 AM

Or watching Glenn Beck or supporting our troops, or the troops themselves. I’m afraid that tomorrow, my husband is going to throw the cuffs on me and haul me in for being a right wing extremist.

HornetSting on April 15, 2009 at 12:22 AM

Or watching Glenn Beck or supporting our troops, or the troops themselves. I’m afraid that tomorrow, my husband is going to throw the cuffs on me and haul me in for being a right wing extremist.

HornetSting on April 15, 2009 at 12:22 AM

As long as he graciously allows 1million illegals in over the next year, Obama will give you a get out of jail free card… ;)

Oh, and speaking of our amigos, why didn’t the DHS submit a report about La Raza? Guess they are just a bunch of law abiding tax payers…

Upstater85 on April 15, 2009 at 12:32 AM

Watch close! The thought police are about!

Chaz706 on April 15, 2009 at 12:47 AM

This hate has now solidified itself as love of Obama. If you criticize the man or his policies the answer is always one of three things

18-1 on April 14, 2009 at 10:14 PM

This is why liberals are the real extremist.
They have nothing but irrational,emotional behavior to rely on because facts and the reality on the ground always show their ideology to be nothing but illogical fantasy:

“Obama worship is the flip side of Bush hatred. They love the one without knowing what he stands for and loathe the other while mis-representing his record.”

(via Instapundit)

Liberals don’t give a dam# about human rights,equality,justice,and the truth.
They only care about doing or saying whatever it takes at that particular time that will benefit them politically.

This has been shown with an enormous amount of evidence in their hypocrisy concerning Rendition,state secrets,indefinite detention,NSA spying,bombing villages,killing civilians,engaging and escalating war,massive deficits…on…and…on….and…on.

All of these things under Bush were un-patriotic and war crimes.
Under Obama,they are “smart power”.

Obama’s administration has the press in it’s pocket so tight that they feel they can pass off partisan DHS reports and bogus illegal gun running numbers(mexico) to squelch dissent and push their liberal agenda like gun control without fear of exposure.
Most of the debunking of this propaganda is done in forums that liberals and many independents pay no attention to.
It is below the fold or on a blog that doesn’t showcase Paris Hilton or obsess about Obama’s dog so the Obama administration gets away with it.
Using government entities to push political hit pieces with no facts to back up their accusations while they ignore the incredible amount of hate and cultist behavior on the left should be aggressively called out by our elected officials on the hill.
Demand hearings,press conferences,and hold up proceedings on the hill until the Obama administration is held accountable.
The more the Obama administration gets away with this serious overreach and bogus attack on people who dare to dissent,the more the other 47 million voters and people who
see Obama for the fraud he is will feel trapped and cornered.
This will lead to serious problems that will split this country at a time when we need unity more than ever.

Baxter Greene on April 15, 2009 at 12:55 AM

That seals it. I was already leaning in this direction, but I’m sorry, I’m not going to re-up when I get back to the states. I can’t in good conscience continue to serve a government that seeks to demonize me in my role.

I love my country – but I fear my government, especially when the “Democrats” take over.

Red Cloud on April 15, 2009 at 1:00 AM

All units be on the lookout for any caucasians buying ammo and listening to Rush/Hannity/Levin. All units respond.

long_cat on April 15, 2009 at 12:20 AM

*One-Adam-Twelve*

Proceed to Starbucks on Union Street. Apparent Chai TEA drinkers on premises…

*One-Adam-Twelve*

Three moms buying poster board and markers at Walgreens on 11th Avenue….

*Alert: ALL Units*

CANCEL call for suspicious “Man-Caused Disaster” with bombs strapped to chest. He was just lost. His buddies from AlQueda came to pick him up.

TN Mom on April 15, 2009 at 1:08 AM

That seals it. I was already leaning in this direction, but I’m sorry, I’m not going to re-up when I get back to the states. I can’t in good conscience continue to serve a government that seeks to demonize me in my role.

I love my country – but I fear my government, especially when the “Democrats” take over.

Red Cloud on April 15, 2009 at 1:00 AM

First of all,thank you for your service.

Don’t let a bunch of liberals keep you from achieving and working hard for something or being who you want to be.

Especially when it is being an American Soldier.

You will never go to bed or to your grave wondering if you made a difference in this world.

The overwhelming majority of liberals will.

Baxter Greene on April 15, 2009 at 1:09 AM

I only speak for myself. I am no longer concerned with what I am labeled. I pay 35% in FICA alone. I have no representation for my labor. My vote counts for nothing because it is easily reduced by fraud.

Where does one man who pays his bills, taxes, and obeys the law turn? No one is is looking out for me and and even worse, I am the object of ridicule because I dare say, ENOUGH. This is not about being unhappy with the outcome of the election. It is not about being a militant racist. It is not about hating others who hold diffent views.

This is about a line that has been crossed. I am mocked and laughed at. I am told that a bow is not a bow. I am told to pay my taxes or else, even though the Sec of the Treas can disregard his own taxes. This is about one man who has followed the rules and who is not looking for anyting but to be left alone. This is about me saying I have had my fill of your slander and ungrateful treatment.

John D on April 14, 2009 at 9:29 PM

No you speak for more than you know. And even those who now support Obama may one day thank you for standing up and saying enough.

petunia on April 15, 2009 at 1:36 AM

“It may include groups and individuals that are dedicated to a single-issue, such as opposition to abortion or immigration,” the warning says.

That is the most dangerous statement that I have ever read – outside of some penny dreadful novel!

Essentially, to me, it says that any dissent is not to be allowed.

1984 – a bit late, but otherwise on track.

OldEnglish on April 15, 2009 at 1:43 AM

Too many comments to read; no doubt someone already mentioned this:

The ‘funny’ thing is, the ones most likely to commit terrorist acts are not those of us who love the Constitution and want to live in the nation the Founding Fathers envisioned… The real physical danger will come from the ‘rats when they finally discover that the free cheese that Pied Piper Precedent promised them is not forthcoming.

LegendHasIt on April 15, 2009 at 1:50 AM

this is what i came home from afghanistan to? oh yah! i forgot, some people who whine louder than the masses elected Obama cuz the masses were too fed up to come out and vote their values.

this is what you get.

btw… vets with PTSD, have problems fitting back in, etc,… do not form extremist groups. they isolate themselves. you wanna help us? dont start by labeling us as terrorists.

Dee-De-DEEEEEEEE!

how can you form an extremist group if you have problems blending back into groups?

El Guapo on April 15, 2009 at 3:28 AM

Jenfidel,

You threw up a lot of great posts in reference to being the loyal opposition. Everything you said was right. It was as if the liberals looked at this election as though it were the final battle and we were just supposed to go away and shut up and take our medicine.

I don’t think so!

hawkdriver on April 15, 2009 at 5:02 AM

Thanks for answering. And I agree with your basic premise. but after living through the kennedy assassination, Viet Nam protests, Watergate, Carter, etc. I am optimistic that good sense will prevail. there have been much darker times. And the senators and representatives will not give up their power and privilege lightly. Obama is already finding that out. -Bradke

I was born in 1980 so I did not live through those trying times. Reading and studying them are obviously not the same as living through them. The country definitely seemed like it was coming apart at the seams to a lot of people during those times and comparing today to them seems like a joke, as does comparing today to the Great Depression.

The problem is, that though our country survived those times in tact, I believe the foundation was much stronger then. The moral fabric was woven much tighter than it is today where a sense of entitlement runs supreme. If anything, we could be returning to the days of the failed Great Society since the Left refuses to recognize the success of Reaganomics. I really don’t want to spend my most productive years under such a suffocating system of government. I also don’t think, with all these years of debt piling up, that the country can handle it.

So we may have survived worse before, but like the human body after a heavy bout with the flu; the immune system is weakened this time around and we can’t take much more.

Daemonocracy on April 15, 2009 at 5:46 AM

btw… vets with PTSD, have problems fitting back in, etc,… do not form extremist groups. they isolate themselves. you wanna help us? dont start by labeling us as terrorists.

But the Vets are a bunch of Red State dwelling, uneducated southern hicks who are trained to kill. You are dangerous!

/sarcasm

Daemonocracy on April 15, 2009 at 5:50 AM

It doesn’t matter that Obama “won” (by 53%)–He wasn’t given carte blanche to destroy the fine republic we have and put a Socialist/Marxist nightmare in its place.

Jenfidel on April 14, 2009 at 9:21 PM

Neither was Reagan(and all presidents up to Bush II) allowed to give businesses carte blanche to overly tilt labor laws in their favor, or destroy entire regions of the United States. What he started, others continued or received payment to continue.

The difference is that actually happened. The socialism you’re talking about already is in Wall Street. It just gets called socialism and decried when Main Street or Detroit want in on it.

sethstorm on April 15, 2009 at 6:25 AM

That seals it. I was already leaning in this direction, but I’m sorry, I’m not going to re-up when I get back to the states. I can’t in good conscience continue to serve a government that seeks to demonize me in my role.

I love my country – but I fear my government, especially when the “Democrats” take over.

Red Cloud on April 15, 2009 at 1:00 AM

I feel for you brother. I’ve got one more to go and I just hope when I get back, I still own my weapons. Stay safe.

hawkdriver on April 15, 2009 at 6:54 AM

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