Minnesota Recount: Panel gives election to Franken
posted at 9:31 am on April 14, 2009 by Ed Morrissey
As expected based on its initial rulings on absentee ballots, the Minnesota election contest panel reviewing the Senate race has awarded the election to Al Franken over Norm Coleman. The additional ballots allowed by the panel actually increased Franken’s lead, and the panel ruled that Coleman did not prove any systemic failure in the election or recount process. It called the evidence for Franken “overwhelming”:
Three judges soundly rejected Norm Coleman’s attempt to reverse Al Franken’s lead in the U.S. Senate election late Monday, sweeping away the Republican’s claims in a blunt ruling Coleman promised to appeal.
After a trial spanning nearly three months, the judicial panel dismissed Coleman’s central argument that the election and its aftermath were fraught with systemic errors that made the results invalid.
“The overwhelming weight of the evidence indicates that the Nov. 4, 2008, election was conducted fairly, impartially and accurately,” the panel said in its unanimous decision.
Coleman has already vowed to appeal this decision, which was widely anticipated. He will base that appeal mainly on the inconsistent treatment of absentee ballots between the counties and at different stages of the recount and contest phases. The election panel unanimously rejected those points, but they’re specifically constructed for a federal challenge rather than a state appeal. Coleman has to go to the Minnesota Supreme Court next, but he has given every indication that he will continue in the federal system as long as there are ballots to be counted.
Should he do that? Some people are suggesting that an extended challenge will not only prove futile, but will also damage Coleman’s long-term political prospects. I’m not so sure about the latter. Coleman already lost an election for governor, and Tim Pawlenty appears interested in running for a third term. Coleman could challenge Amy Klobuchar for her Senate seat, but that won’t be until 2012. Any supposed damage done to Coleman will have a long time to heal, if his appeal does prove futile.
After carefully observing this process for the last several months, I don’t think Franken stole the election; I think Coleman blew the recount phase by being too passive and too concerned about appearances rather than aggressively challenging Franken ballots the way Franken challenged his. He brought a hackey-sack to a knife fight, and missed his opportunity. I also believe that the state screwed up the recount by opening previously-rejected absentee ballots, which should have only happened in the challenge phase, and then opened the wrong ballots on top of all that. Coleman has a case in federal court, but whether he can find a court at any level so offended by the foul-up that they’re willing to toss out an election that the state has certified will be the big question.
So when should Norm call it off?
Update: Eric Black says Franken will get his seat by June, even while appeals continue.










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OK, let the clown in. The mask will come off and we’ll see his true colors. Minnesota, ya gotta dance with your date now. You brung her to the party.
perroviejo on April 14, 2009 at 9:33 AM
Nah.
Let him in.
The joke’s on US.
The country is finished anyway.
artist on April 14, 2009 at 9:33 AM
I can’t believe ANYONE in their right mind would vote for the Frankenclown!
xler8bmw on April 14, 2009 at 9:34 AM
Appeal till it counts! We have to start fighting regardless of the odds and we have to learn this NOW!
No more ACORN/stolen elections or 2010 and 12 are over!
katy on April 14, 2009 at 9:34 AM
If the people of Minnesota truly did vote this man in, then that is a terrible sign of where our country is headed morally.
The man is a foul mouthed, arrogant, unfunny, tax cheat who deals in ad hominems, and half-truths…
…Minnesota will get what it deserves.
Daddy-O on April 14, 2009 at 9:35 AM
Well this just proves that the current political process really is a joke and unfortunately its a joke at our expense.
Dreadnought223 on April 14, 2009 at 9:36 AM
Another tax cheat Dem in congress. Yeah for their side.
Cinematicfilm on April 14, 2009 at 9:36 AM
59 votes. Amnesty here we come. Get ready for a 1 party system
nice343 on April 14, 2009 at 9:37 AM
Appeal all the way. fight, fight, fight. At the very least, it’ll keep one more Democrat out of the Senate for a while longer.
rbj on April 14, 2009 at 9:37 AM
What’s another tax cheat in the Federal Government going to matter?
thomasaur on April 14, 2009 at 9:38 AM
He’ll fit right in.
Akzed on April 14, 2009 at 9:38 AM
There’s a bigger principle here. That being, the responsibility of a state to use the same standard to count all ballots.
Once the precedent is set that the commission can count ballots in friendly counties one way, and unfriendly counties another way, then whichever party controls the election machinery will never lose.
MN failed in that regard miserably. Coleman has an obligation to take this as far as he can.
MarkTheGreat on April 14, 2009 at 9:38 AM
The longer that Al Franken can’t participate in Senate votes, the better for America.
RBMN on April 14, 2009 at 9:39 AM
Norm needs to go from being a Senator to being a poster child in the war on voter fraud.
He needs to appeal this until ACORN is no more, until every poll worker in the U.S. of A. shudders at the phrase “Coleman v. Franken”, until Al Franken dies of old age if needed.
Until Repubs actually decide this is a *fight*, we’re going to continue getting screwed.
Mew
acat on April 14, 2009 at 9:40 AM
That would be true if Franken were being voted into the MN senate. Unfortunately, in the US senate, all of us have to live with Franken and any votes he casts.
MarkTheGreat on April 14, 2009 at 9:40 AM
Norm is right, but he has no available remedy. We have to fix the system going forward in Minnesota. And a good start to that would be removing SoS Mark Ritchie (D-ACORN) in 2010.
Mr. D on April 14, 2009 at 9:40 AM
I doubt Coleman’s going to get anywhere on appeal, but given the way voters seem to be cooling to Obama’s social/economic plans, it would be fun to see Franken held out of the Senate for a couple of more months, before being dropped into The World’s Greatest Deliberative Body at a point where his fellow Dems are more worried about their prospects for 2010 than they are about the Mandate for Change they thought they had back in January.
Al will still be a bull in a china shop, but under those circumstances his belligerence will more likely be sound bite fodder for Republicans in the mid-year races than they will be anything that rallies his fellow Dems to follow the path of Franken’s Air America liberalism.
jon1979 on April 14, 2009 at 9:40 AM
As disgusting as this is, I feel Coleman should drop it. At this point, I dont think anything will work.
becki51758 on April 14, 2009 at 9:41 AM
all the while that Coleman is appealing, he should be RNC chair.
kelley in virginia on April 14, 2009 at 9:41 AM
I don’t feel bad about voting to keep Frankin from being seated a while longer. Minnesota screwed this one up so bad, they can do without a second senator for a few more weeks/months.
Durham68 on April 14, 2009 at 9:42 AM
I think the reality here is that something needs to be done about organisations like ACORN to prevent them from committing the sort voter fraud and pay for play activism that they have been engaging in.
Dreadnought223 on April 14, 2009 at 9:42 AM
Franken won when he got in those extra ballets. If Norm has a chance, fight. He has nothing to lose now.
Mr. Joe on April 14, 2009 at 9:42 AM
All we can hope is one more attention drawing assclown will swing more our way in 2010…
DCJeff on April 14, 2009 at 9:42 AM
Seat him.
getalife on April 14, 2009 at 9:43 AM
What did you expect from people who voted for Jesse Ventura?
Minnesota gets what it deserves.
rightside on April 14, 2009 at 9:44 AM
meh.
It’s Coleman’s perogative to pursue or move on. I wouldn’t fault him either way. Just like I don’t fault Franken for doing what he has done and taking it as far as he has. Look what it did for him.
Although, I think the majority of Minnesotan’s in that district deserve what they get if Franken was in fact elected by the majority. Hopefully, it’ll be all good, but somehow I doubt it will be.
SilverStar830 on April 14, 2009 at 9:46 AM
Is it possible to have an honest election? Doesn’t seem so, but appealing will tell us how far this goes.
volsense on April 14, 2009 at 9:47 AM
Bottom line remains — 58% of the Minnesota electorate, in a huge DFL year, voted against Al Franken.
Mr. D on April 14, 2009 at 9:47 AM
Well looks like Minnesota has finally topped Jessie Ventura!! Didn’t think this was possible.. Appeal all the way Norm.
Dire Straits on April 14, 2009 at 9:49 AM
No. Regardless of which party is in power, the government will continue to grow.
True_King on April 14, 2009 at 9:50 AM
Appeal? No one is above the law…but, 12 Supreme Court Justices are below the law. They are 12 “Cowardly Lions!” They so fear the ‘racist’ implications…were they not, they would be “Vetting” Hussein, as we speak/type. Even a double-digit IQ like mine knows…”where there is smoke, there is fire.” I smell ACORNS burning or is that 800 mile pizza? The office of the president is a sham, like-wise…the supreme court.
JoeySlippers on April 14, 2009 at 9:50 AM
The fight’s done. Dragging it out isn’t going to win Coleman anything. Sorry Ed, but your neighbors decided their state needed to be represented by a tax-dodging former writer for SNL.
MadisonConservative on April 14, 2009 at 9:50 AM
If Franken becomes the face of congressional Democrats, then the conservatives will have won a bigger victory in the long run. He’s as ugly inside as he is outside.
RandyChandler on April 14, 2009 at 9:52 AM
Given the contest court’s firm decision that shot down every one of the arguments Coleman’s legal team made, it’s certain that the MN Supreme Court will affirm that and order that a certificate of election be issued to that effect, pronto. Gov. Pawlenty will have little choice but to issue it or risk being seen as obstructing the outcome for no good reason, and the slender thread that Coleman has of appealing to the U.S. Supreme Court is no reason at all to keep Franken from being seated, even provisionally. Enough is enough.
starfleet_dude on April 14, 2009 at 9:52 AM
+1000
The corruption of the election process in MN needs to be exposed and challenged at every opportunity.
Right_of_Attila on April 14, 2009 at 9:53 AM
It’s over, but I’m still not opposed to him continuing his efforts. The longer Franken can be kept out of the Senate the better. I realize that’s kind of a stupid position, but I really don’t like Franken, and one less vote on crucial issues is good.
BadgerHawk on April 14, 2009 at 9:54 AM
A moment of clarity!
rightside on April 14, 2009 at 9:54 AM
They should swear him in tomorrow. An appropriate day for this tax cheat.
angryed on April 14, 2009 at 9:55 AM
I feel badly for Coleman but maybe this isn’t such a bad thing. Franken puts a face on how absolutely ridiculous and circus-like Washington has become. You can’t find anyone more clownish than this guy. The RNC can make hay with this.
sherry on April 14, 2009 at 9:56 AM
Minnesota got exactly who they voted for.
Let them suffer with Franken, this is what they want.
Coleman, if you couldn’t muster 1,000 votes more then Franken, you don’t deserve to be a leader.
Franken was perhaps the worst candidate in all “60″ states, it should not have been a contest.
I have to assume there is either something seriously wrong with that state, or seriously wrong with Coleman.
right2bright on April 14, 2009 at 9:56 AM
OMG IM MOVING!!!!!!!!
its bad enough i see his bumper stickers everyday….
alexraye on April 14, 2009 at 9:57 AM
Another defeat suffered by the cons.
getalife on April 14, 2009 at 9:58 AM
Al Franken is a bigger irritant than a Somali pirate.
radjah shelduck on April 14, 2009 at 9:59 AM
That’s how liberals win. The GOP figures “we’ll get ‘em next time”. But EVERY time, the Democrats are willing to take their fight all the way to the Supreme Court.
If Coleman thinks Franken really won, and thinks Franken is the better representative for MN in the Senate, then he should throw in the towel. If not, he should fight until there is no avenue left to pursue.
Franken got lots of outside help, got some votes double-counted, had some ACORN help, and got favoritism from several election officials and judges. Coleman is fighting against a rigged system, but that doesn’t mean he should give up.
hawksruleva on April 14, 2009 at 10:00 AM
I can’t believe ANYONE in their right mind would vote for the Frankenclown!
xler8bmw on April 14, 2009 at 9:34 AM
They’re NOT in their right minds; they’re in Minnesoooota. Minnesota + rational thought is an equation that couldn’t be worked by Einstein.
RWLA on April 14, 2009 at 10:01 AM
The countdown begins: The day this lunatic gets carried out of the Senate in a white tuxedo with the arms that tie in the back……..
adamsmith on April 14, 2009 at 10:01 AM
If the tables were turned you yahoos would be on the rooftops shrieking for Fanken to concede because all these appeals are groundless.
Coleman is pathetic.
Dave Rywall on April 14, 2009 at 10:01 AM
Exactly. Granted, Franken’s term is still 6 years, so he’ll have plenty of time to muck things up in the Senate. But the longer he can be kept out of office, the better.
Coleman needs to keep this going as long as possible.
Doughboy on April 14, 2009 at 10:01 AM
Congratulations on your coke-snorting unfunny comedian winning a seat in Congress. I’m glad such an experienced lawmaker will be on hand to help solve America’s problems. I’m sure he’ll vote however Reid tells him to vote. And isn’t that really what being a Senator is all about?
hawksruleva on April 14, 2009 at 10:02 AM
C-Span will be more entertaining.
getalife on April 14, 2009 at 10:03 AM
Yeah, but a pretty big chunk of them were just too “ideologically pure” to support Coleman. They are the ones who handed the election to Franken.
great job!
funky chicken on April 14, 2009 at 10:06 AM
HollowPoint,
My sincere condolences to you. Al Franken, Minnesota Senator for the next six fricking years.
So how many Dems have crossed off Card Check for now ? We know that this clown is for card check and is practically, the 60th vote..
I dont see how Coleman is going to win no matter how many challenges/appeals he makes – as some one pointed out – if you cannot handily beat a clown like Franken and instead have to depend on a few hundred votes to be counted/not counted, you deserve to lose.
Minnesota, enjoy your latest joke. One must have thought that Jesse Ventura must have been a good lesson for you – but evidently it is’nt.
nagee76 on April 14, 2009 at 10:08 AM
I have no doubt that the MN Supremes will issue a ruling that favors the Frankenclown. However, I think that Coleman should push it to SCOTUS if necessary. My guess is that they’ll punt rather than revisit Bush v. Gore, but I’m sick and tired of the GOP dropping trou and grabbing their ankles every time a Democrat manages to manufacture enough votes after the fact to “win” an election. Has everyone forgotten that Coleman was certified as the winner after the state mandated recount? Or that some votes magically appeared that ALL seemed to favor Franken?
You’d think that that the Washington State governor’s race of 2004 shenanigans would have tipped off the GOP that Democrat malfeasance in elections. You’d have been dead wrong.
Physics Geek on April 14, 2009 at 10:11 AM
our country is DOOMED
kirkill on April 14, 2009 at 10:16 AM
And what really are you getting? Your morals are so bankrupt that you favor criminals over law abiding citizens, you favor murdering children over life. You favor a nanny state distributing wealth so that everyone is poor. Ignorant lib.
kirkill on April 14, 2009 at 10:20 AM
Let Franken have it, it doesn’t effect the filibuster number, and we need as many Dems in Congress as possible.
As the country goes into the toilet, there will be back lash. The more Dems that can be on the receiving end of that whip, the better. If the country is going to be irreparably harmed anyway, Franken won’t make a difference, however if the country can be turned around, it will take a purging of the libtards and we need as many victims as we can get.
Geministorm on April 14, 2009 at 10:21 AM
Term limits.
Kick out the RINOs.
Kick out the non-moderate Dems.
Geministorm on April 14, 2009 at 10:22 AM
The reason why Coleman didn’t win is that the Independence Party candidate not only gained some who would vote Democratic, but plenty who also would otherwise vote Republican. That, and the fact that Obama was popular enough in the state to have coattails that helped Franken to his win. Oh, and the fact that Coleman, for all his ability to schmooze, isn’t really that likeable a guy. Franken, for all his past silliness, comes across as a warmer human being than Coleman.
starfleet_dude on April 14, 2009 at 10:25 AM
How true.
richardcamera on April 14, 2009 at 10:29 AM
I do believe Franken stole the election. The margin of victory is well within the margin of fraud. However, you are ultimately right that Coleman totally screwed up. He should have been far more aggressive in terms of challenging ballots, and should NEVER have agreed to that cockamamie recount procedure where new ballots were added in. As I understand it, that violated election law, and put Coleman in the position of having to argue that a recount procedure he himself agreed to sucked.
Outlander on April 14, 2009 at 10:29 AM
PATHETIC
maverick muse on April 14, 2009 at 10:30 AM
Gotta disagree. Franken stole the election, and Coleman let him get away with it by not being more aggressive initially.
And, I seem to recall early posts on this site suggesting Coleman was in a good position, and urging calmness at the time.
Coleman needs to fight. He will probably lose, but sometimes a hard-fought defeat is all you can accomplish. He gains nothing by conceding at this point.
cs89 on April 14, 2009 at 10:35 AM
Seems to me that Coleman has a very poor chance of prevailing on appeal. But, he does have the ability to keep gumming up the works with appeals, and the longer this drags on, the longer it demonstrates how screwed up Minnesota’s election system is. What the Republican party in Minnesota SHOULD be doing right now is:
1. Introduce legislation to change Minnesota’s election procedure to have mandatory runoff elections if the vote is within 1%, and to clean up any other irregularities in the process.
2. Publicly sell the bill as a way to restore confidence in Minnesota’s election system and to say “look, whatever you say about the current litigation, nobody really has confidence that Franken actually won.”
3. Pressure the DFL to agree to vote for the legislation in exchange for Coleman dropping all challenges and allowing Franken to take his seat.
The party has to ask itself “what can we actually get out of this?” I don’t see any path to victory for Coleman, so the question has to turn to, how do we prevent this from happening again?
Outlander on April 14, 2009 at 10:35 AM
I’m looking forward to the MN Left breaking out their “Selected not Elected” bumper stickers because, hey, they can be counted on to stand on principle…right?
JohnTant on April 14, 2009 at 10:39 AM
Just nuke the damn state of Minnesota back into the Stone Age and be done with it.
Percy_Peabody on April 14, 2009 at 10:42 AM
For all of you saying “Minnesota deserves it”, I say, “Get ready for it”. This is a preview of most upcoming elections.
You can’t believe it’s coincidence that a sampling expert was put in charge of the census, now headed by the WH Chief of Staff?
I hope I’m being paranoid, but really, I expect this to be the results of many future elections. They just keep recounting until the Democrat wins, then it’s over.
darury on April 14, 2009 at 10:48 AM
Here’s the problem with Coleman continuing as I see it.
If he goes all the way and succeeds in winning the seat, the Dems will have a field day accusing the Republicans of stealing the election. The meme is already ingrained by the media that Republicans are the ones who manipulate and steal elections. This would just give them more fodder to push that.
But, I also agree that if the election is allowed to stand, with all the shenanigans then it sets a dangerous precedent.
This is a damned if you do, damned if you don’t situation.
Coleman had the upper hand to start, but once Franken eked out the larger vote total, he was done.
Jvette on April 14, 2009 at 10:52 AM
This is the part that I have not understood throughout all your posts. I’m sure I just missed when it was explained, but why do you think the wrong ballots were opened? Both campaigns agreed that the opened absentee ballots were valid. What makes you think that they were invalid or wrong?
If they were actually valid, then the fact that they were opened at the wrong phase might have been procedurally incorrect, but the final outcome is exactly the same.
tneloms on April 14, 2009 at 11:35 AM
I think they need to see how the State SC rules before deciding on continuing.
And I think they need to start using the language of theft to describe why they are continuing. Every comment should say that Franken manipulated the board to include votes that were exactly like ones that were excluded later. Stress the Errors of the board and things like the disappearing ballots as reasons that the process is not valid as it stands.
The saddest thing is that it is taking so long to realize that the results will never be valid and that the only sensible solution is a redo.
OBQuiet on April 14, 2009 at 11:37 AM
This recount was a joke and an affront to all honest Americans. I would like to see Coleman challenge it in front of a real court with real power.
I do believe the election panel is correct in stating that the election of November 4 was fair and honest. And Norm Coleman won that election. What happened after that is where the shenanigans started and the illegalities piled up.
rockmom on April 14, 2009 at 11:39 AM
Ed missed one of the most important parts of this ruling:
This is the main reason that the fight should be taken to the federal level, where these claims can be considered.
In any case, I think it would be good for Coleman to challenge as far as possible. This is because so many on his side view this process as illegitimate, and it is healthy for the highest court possible to judge that.
tneloms on April 14, 2009 at 11:55 AM
F@ckin’ great…
/sarc
ErinF on April 14, 2009 at 12:02 PM
“In this instance seems churlish and bitter.” No sense to “deny the obvious.”
Blake on April 14, 2009 at 12:04 PM
Can I tell you, as someone who has met the man, you are absolutely right. I met Franken and Harry Shearer at Huffington’s shadow convention in Philadelphia in 2000. And Harry Shearer was just the nicest guy you could imagine. Just a warm, friendly, down-to-Earth guy. By contrast, Al Franken was the biggest as*hole you can possibly imagine. It literally was like Chevy Chase’s old routine… “I’m Al Franken, and you’re not!” What a freaking tool.
I’m sure harry was as much a lefty as Franken. He just learned somewhere along the line how to be a decent human being. Something that escaped Al Franken… or rather, something he managed to avoid all his life.
JohnGalt23 on April 14, 2009 at 12:19 PM
Coleman had six years in office to win over the people of Minnesota. Successful Senators are typically re-elected term after term..
Yet after six years, he was only able to manage a draw when running against a comedian (and not a very good one at that!). He failed to earn the respect of the pepople who elected him. He had a great opportunity and he failed.
People are tired of lifetime politicians whose primary focus in life is gaining and holding power.
Coleman was born and raised in New York City. Perhaps it is time he return there.
Freelunch on April 14, 2009 at 12:26 PM
Hahaha! Great stuff, Daddy-O!
I mean, I’m not saying you’re wrong about Franken, but it seems pretty hilarious for you to complain that he deals in ad hominems by the end of that sentence.
It’s also amusing that the poll is currently at 67% for “take it to the bitter end”. You know if the roles were reversed it would be 80+% for “end it now”.
How often was Gore called a sore loser for the few weeks it took to decide the 2000 election? Yet Coleman can have as many months as he needs. Funny stuff.
orange on April 14, 2009 at 12:35 PM
The “conservative” solution–short of not contesting elections, period, but I think it’s a tough case to make–would be to stop at the highest State court. However, this answer garnered only 9% support.
Why stop there? The better question would be, why give any more credibility to the federal courts who think themselves king-makers (if not kings)?
cackcon on April 14, 2009 at 12:41 PM
Take it to the supreme court. Man up.
Mojave Mark on April 14, 2009 at 12:47 PM
Phewwwwwww….as a constituent of Bahney Fwank and Senator Swimmer Kennedy, I applaud all Minnesotans for getting us Mass-holes off the hook for our egregiously bad choices of leaders. Thanks a pant-load.
Huckabye-Romney on April 14, 2009 at 12:52 PM
That’s what the Stupid Party does every time it’s up against the Dangerous Party. That’s the moderate way.
Oh, well, I hope they nail the chairs down in the Senate before that lunatic gets there.
Kensington on April 14, 2009 at 12:54 PM
But yeah, Coleman should take it to the Supreme Court, screaming about voter fraud at the top of his lungs every step of the way.
Kensington on April 14, 2009 at 12:56 PM
*Sniff*
My state has issues.
Aronne on April 14, 2009 at 1:10 PM
This should be appealed until Frankin is drooling in his strained carrots in some old folks home. Never give up. Not ever.
trigon on April 14, 2009 at 1:19 PM
The reason that Coleman is behind today is a microcosm of the problem that we face as a country. He was blindsided by those who value partisan outcomes rather than consistency of process.
In other words, he was taken by surprise by people who would change the rules of a game being played if the score wasn’t what they wanted it to be.
And we see this nationwide — putting AIG bonuses in the Porkulus bill, then passing a retroactive tax to whisk them away; facing voter defeat on gay marriage, then doing an end-run through the courts; failing to get 60 Democrats in the Senate, then threatening to end the filibuster; telling Blago not to appoint a Senator, then seating Burriss.
In all these cases, there are people who are playing by the rules — making changes, if any, through designated means. And there are people who essentially say, “screw the rules, we want XXXXX.”
Coleman believed that the rules were set up to seek the true will of the people, and would work toward that end without aggression or heated contention. Franken believed that the rules were, at most, a slight impediment to his being seated in the Senate. Along the way, the rules were bent, twisted, partially ignored, and misapplied by various parties to finally achieve the Democrats’ aim.
Coleman should take this all the way to the SCOTUS, not because of the seat — but, instead, for the benefit of people who want steady rules. People who believe that this nation should be a nation of laws, not men.
cthulhu on April 14, 2009 at 1:24 PM
I agree with this last part. But why do you make the accusations in the first part? Which rules were bent? How were they misapplied? Which votes were counted that shouldn’t have been? The Coleman campaign agreed that all opened absentee ballots were valid.
tneloms on April 14, 2009 at 1:38 PM
It’s over. Coleman should concede. The energy is simply gone.
And I agree that he didn’t challenge vigorously enough when it really counted.
That spells a lack of acuity, so maybe the outcome of this isn’t really all that bad. We need brains and instinct in our elected officials today more than ever.
AnninCA on April 14, 2009 at 1:44 PM
Just how bad was Coleman that Minnesotans voted for Franken?
I know how bad McShamnesty was, but I still voted for him as the lesser of the evils.
csdeven on April 14, 2009 at 1:45 PM
All the way! Crooked elections diminish not just Minnesota, but the entire Constitutional Republic we live in.
Franken has succeeded at what Gore was trying to do: overturn an election he lost. If election laws were violated, then how can the result be acceptable?
tom on April 14, 2009 at 1:48 PM
On another note… I found some ammo in the local stores. I stocked up.
Static on April 14, 2009 at 1:52 PM
Essentially, what ended up happening was that Republicans strictly enforced exclusionary rules in Republican-leaning counties, and Democrats laxly enforced exclusionary rules in Democrat-leaning counties. This resulted in lower vote totals overall in counties most likely to favor Republicans, and higher vote totals overall in counties most likely to favor Democrats.
Of course, in the fog of war, there were a lot of other issues going around, but this one seems to be the big one (and also, handily, supports my thesis).
cthulhu on April 14, 2009 at 2:06 PM
Enough already. There’s no way Franken is NOT going to be seated in the Senate at this point. Coleman should appear “statesmanlike” already, although it will be “too little, too late” for that anyway.
asc85 on April 14, 2009 at 2:10 PM
You have hit the nail on the head! This is not a fight between Coleman vs. Franken over a senate seat. This is a fight between The Rule of Law vs. The Rule of Men over the very soul of the USA. This is a fight between conspiring men wishing to do the nation harm and the Constitution!
And for that reason alone Coleman has the duty to press on until he can no longer do so!
Chaz706 on April 14, 2009 at 2:51 PM
I don’t care how futile his appeals are. The longer frankenslime is kept out of office, the better. He will only do more damage than good. We are better off without representaion than be represented by him.
oakpack on April 14, 2009 at 3:20 PM
These Minnesota Democrats strike me as the type who voted him in just to piss off the Republicans throughout the country, but forgetting that it’s their state he most directly represents.
Cutting off one’s nose to spite one’s face.
Could be also that they merely smelled tax and spend goodies with the evil rich footing the bill.
Dr. ZhivBlago on April 14, 2009 at 4:01 PM
You said this the last Coleman/Franken post:
How does that measure with this statement:
This is what gets me with our “supposed” side of the blogosphere. First saying, “Be the noble one,” “Don’t get in the gutter with the Left,” “Be respectful,” “Be above the sniping and anger.” Then they turn around when you listen to them and kick you in the back side saying you were a wuss all along. Who needs enemies when you’ve got friends like that?
The reason Republicans worry about their reputations is because the Left go after them like there’s no tomorrow and Republicans who are in the public eye are fair-weather friends. So-called Republicans that can write an editorial or get on CNN are usually the first to jump on the dish the dirty lefty stuff bandwagon when it hits the fan. Big example of this is when Rush said, “I hope he fails.” You had Steele, Newt, et al out there railing against Rush on behalf of the Democrats and “being nice” to the new President. *Sheesh* We ALL knew what he MEANT.
Sultry Beauty on April 14, 2009 at 4:19 PM
You are very astute and sadly accurate.
Aronne on April 14, 2009 at 4:54 PM
Why not end this whole thing by doing a run-off election between the Coleman and Frankenstien?
JeffVader on April 14, 2009 at 5:35 PM
Absolutely Coleman should appeal. Franken has only “won” because he succeeded in what Al Gore failed — getting the ballots of people who voted for him treated with more scrutiny and more lax rules than the ballots of his opponent.
As SCOTUS ruled 7-2 in Bush v. Gore, that is unconstitutional.
Apparently a great many conservatives would rather “get along” (read: submit) than actually defend the constitution.
Doing the right thing is often uncomfortable. It almost always means standing up to name calling and defending your actions. Its almost always easier to just let people get away with their unconstitutional behavior, but its not right and its not what conservatives stand for.
Grow a pair, people.
American Elephant on April 14, 2009 at 6:35 PM
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