Poll: 72% think Obama won’t make U.S. less safe

posted at 8:50 pm on April 13, 2009 by Allahpundit

If we’ve lost the national security vote, what’s left?

Seventy-two percent of those questioned in the poll released Monday disagree with Cheney’s view that some of Obama’s actions have put the country at greater risk, with 26 percent agreeing with the former vice president…

CNN Polling Director Keating Holland pointed out the partisan divide evident in the results. “By a 53 percent to 46 percent margin, Republicans agree with Dick Cheney,” he said. “But more than nine in 10 Democrats believe that Obama has not made the country less safe from terrorism. They are joined by more than seven in 10 independents who don’t see an increase in the threat from terrorism since Obama took office.”

The CNN/Opinion Research Corp. poll was conducted April 3-5, before an American cargo ship captain was taken hostage by Somali pirates, and before Sunday’s successful action by the U.S. Navy to free the captain.

A 26 percent showing means almost half of Republicans think Cheney’s gone overboard with his rhetoric. Dude?


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That’s a pretty thin slice of baloney, I’ll give you/us that it occurred on his watch and as such he takes responsibility as CIC. The word culpable denotes far more than chronologic association, don’t get sucked in. I cannot find GW morally or legally on the hook for the attack.

dmann on April 13, 2009 at 10:25 PM

You are correct. The word culpability is way too strong for what I intended. I do use words, lazily, at times and you called me out on it.

carbon_footprint on April 13, 2009 at 10:34 PM

Probably 85-90% of people have no idea what Obama has or hasn’t done in regard to national security. We have become a nation of idiots.

echosyst on April 13, 2009 at 10:59 PM

carbon_footprint on April 13, 2009 at 10:34 PM

My intent is not to call you out, just to watch our back ;->

dmann on April 13, 2009 at 11:07 PM

With a CNN poll it’s always a 64% Dems to 36% Republican makeup. I’m always dismayed when you put this dem propaganda crap up like it’s the gospel Allah. Surely you can find more trustworthy data to display your fair and balanced side… and I’m the one always found defending you, and killing wolves from airplanes.

Griz on April 13, 2009 at 11:10 PM

My intent is not to call you out, just to watch our back ;->

dmann on April 13, 2009 at 11:07 PM

Awesome. Thanks.

carbon_footprint on April 13, 2009 at 11:11 PM

Obama: took action against the pirates

Bush: dragged his heels:
http://www.reuters.com/article/wtMostRead/idUKTRE4AI6M520081119

Yawn.

Dave Rywall on April 13, 2009 at 9:21 PM

This has to be the lamest comparison ever. President Obama took action after an American ship was seized and an American citizen was taken hostage. It was a no-brainer. The article you referenced was Bush mulling over taking action even though an American ship wasn’t seized by pirates.

But, OK, I’ll play your game. Before Thursday, how much action was Obama taking against pirates. Come on, before an American vessel was taken by pirates, had Obama ever once publicly discussed the Somalian pirate issue. And are you seriously implying that if Bush was President when an American ship was seized by pirates he wouldn’t have acted as aggressively as Obama? Didn’t we hear for 8 years how he was too aggressive and too much of a cowboy? And now, Obama is out-cowboying Bush. You are comparing apples and oranges and you know it.

On the plus side, it’s nice to see that after 8 years the left in America finally is able to cheer a military success.

Khalid Shaikh Mohammed, the mastermind of 9/11, is captured: silence from the left.

Sadaam Hussein, a brutal dictator, is captured: silence from the left.

Abu Musab al-Zarqawi, responsible for the deaths of hundreds of U.S. soldiers and thousands of innocent Iraqis, is vaporized: silence from the left.

3 pirates in a lifeboat are killed by Navy Seals (which is an awesome thing): Obama is the greatest military commander since General Patton.

Look, Obama did the right thing. Good for him. But, it’s something that 99.99% of Americans would have also gotten right (I’ll count Jimmy Carter and Dennis Kucinich in the other .01 percent). There will be a lot bigger tests down the road (Iran, North Korea, Russia). You guys should save the end-zone dances for when your “tough guy” stares down Putin or Ahmadinejad.

JohnInCA on April 13, 2009 at 11:16 PM

Of course most people won’t feel he made us less safe until they have evidence of it; we’ve gone so long without an attack that we elected him, after all. Why would a majority of Americans elect someone they thought made us less safe? And hopefully he hasn’t made us less safe, we just don’t know without evidence in the form of another attack. That’s the only thing that will convince people he’s made us less safe, it’s just basic logic. Hopefully we won’t have another attack, but until we do there’s no reason for people to change their opinions.

blue13326 on April 13, 2009 at 11:26 PM

To paraphrase Churchill, 0bama had a choice between war and dishonor. He has chosen dishonor, and shall get war.

Sekhmet on April 13, 2009 at 11:27 PM

Now ask them which candidate had a pregnant teenage daughter.

Most of the Dems don’t know if terrorism exists in the first place.

PattyJ on April 13, 2009 at 11:37 PM

The situation Obama faces now is:

A.) There’s at least one segment of the world that is no longer going to love him, no matter ho much he tries to say he’s not George W. Bush. Blow away three pirates and both their clan members and those who enjoy lawfulness against Western symbols of power, including cargo ships, are going to hate you. Which most Americans don’t think is a bad thing, but which seems to grate on at least a few of Obama’s more liberal supporters, based on a few blog postings at Kos and elsewhere today.

B.) As much as the over-the-air networks, MSNBC, the normal liberal big media press and Democratic spinners may want it, blowing away those three pirates does not decree immunity on Obama from charges of being soft on foreign policy from now until November 2012. While it’s great that he didn’t take the Carter-with-Iran or Clinton-with-Mogadishu option and do nothing until it was too late, as president he’s going to have to maintain the same type of more agressive stance in a lot of other situations, unless Iran, the Taliban, North Korea, China, Russia, Venezuela, and other rogue terrorists suddenly decide to call it a decade after watching the sniper team in action.

Team Obama does seem to realize that any attack on the U.S. during their term scuttles any effort they plan in social/economic engineering, since all those funds they need would have to be diverted into more military or risk a massive election defeat due to inaction. So I doubt they’re going to deliberately pull a James Earl Carter, more for their own self-interest than for actually disagreeing with Jimmy’s foreign policy beliefs. But for those in lower level posts who denigrated Bush’s War on Terror efforts and backed Barack not merely as a path to regain power, but because they really do think the U.S. is the main cause of the world’s problems, coming around to support Henry “Scoop” Jackson Obama may not be the easiest thing to do.

jon1979 on April 13, 2009 at 11:40 PM

In other news, 72% are found to have the IQ of cabbage.

Dark-Star on April 13, 2009 at 11:48 PM

CNN’s “pollster” is a fellow named Vinod Gupta.

Have fun with your searches.

Del Dolemonte on April 14, 2009 at 12:27 AM

Obama: took action against the pirates

Bush: dragged his heels:
http://www.reuters.com/article/wtMostRead/idUKTRE4AI6M520081119

Yawn.

By all means, roll back over and go to sleep. Something tells me if Bush had attacked when a Saudi oil tanker was attacked, it would be “all about oil”, and a cowboy use of the military without America’s direct interest being threatened.

If Bush is “dragging his feet” by working with the UN Security Council, how effective does that make the UN? That’s the same blunder Kerry made: Bush was both being too unilateral and yet he was bungling it with Iran by not taking the lead (read letting other countries–which are supposed to be every bit as good as we are–take the lead).

Post the comparison one more time, it might become a bit more valider.

Axeman on April 14, 2009 at 12:29 AM

I swear, if reincarnation is the real deal, drywall, you’ll come back as a bowling ball.

Patrick S on April 13, 2009 at 10:09 PM

Nah, hockey puck. After all, he’s a Canadian. Not that there’s anything wrong with that, eh?

I would love to have Sheetrock explain to us exactly how the evil Bush could have prevented the 9/11 attacks.

He can’t, because he knows the answer. Ask the nice security folks at El Al.

Del Dolemonte on April 14, 2009 at 12:39 AM

Meh.

There are millions of fools generally well-intentioned people who mistakenly voted for Obama … and thus have a serious emotional investment in his success.

They’re keeping their blinders on for now – and its intentional. The alternative is to admit what should already be obvious: they made a very big mistake.

They’ll get there, though. Give them time. You can only ignore plain reality so long.

Professor Blather on April 13, 2009 at 8:56 PM

Very true. And this poll is suspiciously similar to the one that declared that the American people trust Obama on the economy.

I’m happy to report that Obama is not going to be quite as bad on national security as many of us had feared. But if you think the world isn’t more dangerous with Obama in charge, cutting missile defense and necessary military spending and being squishy with enemies and rivals, then you’re pretty much a mind-numbed incurious wishful-thinking gullible fool. In other words, a typical Obama voter.

ThereGoesTheNeighborhood on April 14, 2009 at 12:41 AM

But waitaminute now – we’re supposed to blame 9/11 on Clinton. So that means the next attack is to be blamed on Bush.

Dave Rywall on April 13, 2009 at 9:06 PM

If you don’t think Clinton should be blamed for 9/11, you might not want to raise that issue. People just might remember that it was Clinton who took the anti-terrorism function away from the CIA, and gave it to the FBI, which is a law enforcement function centered around prosecution of criminals. It was the Clinton administration that treated the 1st attack on the World Trade Center as if it was just a regular crime. It was the Clinton administration who put a wall between the anti-terrorism functions that now belonged to the FBI, and the law enforcement part of the FBI, thereby ensuring that what the right hand of the FBI knew, the left hand never would. It was Clinton who failed to respond to the attack on the Cole.

If Clinton gets so much of the blame for 9/11, it might be because he deserves so much of it.

Even so, as badly as Clinton bungled some parts of what was supposed to be the job of the President, protecting the country,, the truth is that the blame really falls on the terrorists themselves.

ThereGoesTheNeighborhood on April 14, 2009 at 12:55 AM

If we’ve lost the national security vote, what’s left?

It’s probably already been said but, WE?
Duuuuude!

R D on April 14, 2009 at 1:05 AM

Well, one can only wonder what results that poll would yield today.

To hear the Obam Admin. talk, you’d think Obama was freakn’ John Paul Jones or Isaac Hull.

Sheesh!

Yakko77 on April 14, 2009 at 1:09 AM

WHY IS THERE NOTHING ON HOTAIR ABOUT THE DEPARTMENT OF HOMELAND SECURITY REPORT; Rightwing Extremism: Current
Economic and Political Climate Fueling
Resurgence in Radicalization and Recruitment?

Michelle Malkin has CONFIRMED this report is legit.
http://michellemalkin.com/
Here’s the Report;
http://www.rogerhedgecock.com/resources/HSA%20-%20Rightwing%20Extremism%20-%20Climate%20Fueling%20Radicalization%20and%20Recruitment,dated%207%20April%202009.pdf

Allahpundit, this needs to be addressed.
This is pretty damned crazy what the Government is up to.

nelsonknows on April 14, 2009 at 4:53 AM

nelsonknows: The Obama views Veterans as a potential threat.
They are trained in tactics and the use of firearms to some degree.

A small percentage of them have disabilities that have been subject to some form of discrimination by that the VA Claims backlog so their needs are not being met with the same attention the government gives to the needs of illegals regarding medical care. Some Vets view that as a betrayal by the Nation they served.

Some have had difficulty in re-entering society regarding employment as their military skills do not readily translate into civilian skills. In a civilian economy that is in trouble, with folks losing jobs, some are struggling.
There is no seamless transition.

Those returning to college bear the stigma of having served in an up-popular war. They are not viewed as heroes, this is not post WWII whenthe nation was supportive. As colleges are staffed with left of center types, they have that burden.

As the Obama Admin. is by and large not Veterans, they may feel as if their needs will not be taken as seriously as those groups like ACORN that received a government windfall while the VA Budget is under funded.

This could be seen as Class Warfare. So the DHS that tries to do everything and nothing particularly well has suspicions. Mostly unfounded. Veterans love their country but don’t trust their government. They have a lot in common with most of you these days.

old trooper2 on April 14, 2009 at 5:37 AM

The belief in a President’s national security cred can turn on a dime, especially with a democrap. So, I don’t believe Mr. Obama has neutralized that issue. He may have allayed some fears for a short period of time, but with the wolves howling at the door, this may be a very short lived respite.
I am also waiting to see the cries from the left about Mr. Obama’s imposition of capital punishment on three pirates without due process, cause you know they’d do that were Mr. Bush still President.

eaglewingz08 on April 14, 2009 at 6:17 AM

Another BS poll. If you want I can create one that shows 98% believe Hussein will destroy us all. Anyone want to take that bet?

dogsoldier on April 14, 2009 at 6:28 AM

Pirates take their first American ship in 200 years as soon as the One takes ascends to his throne.

But, America is just as safe as it ever was.

Right.

amkun on April 14, 2009 at 7:04 AM

I’m sure those 72% have already booked pleasure cruises off the coast of Somalia.

Jim Treacher on April 14, 2009 at 7:04 AM

I’m sure those 72% have already booked pleasure cruises off the coast of Somalia.

Jim Treacher on April 14, 2009 at 7:04 AM

I read over at Glenn Reynolds that Rasmussen has Obama down to a +2 on approval rating. It seems he is losing his edge in record time.

I think that one has to remember this is a CNN poll and the way the question is worded is strange.

Terrye on April 14, 2009 at 7:09 AM

As for Dave the Canadian and his idiot post about Obama being all big and bad when it comes to the pirates…..well Dave as long as Bush was President, the pirates left Americans alone. It was not until Obama was in the White House that they dared go near one of our vessels. And then it took days for Obama to come up with an order saying it was okay to shoot the pirates to save the Captain. Well duh…one would hope that was understood from the outset with or without an order.

BTW, headlines this morning say that the pirates took 3 more vessels..so I guess they are no more convinced that Obama means business than I am.

Terrye on April 14, 2009 at 7:12 AM

That last post was directed at Dave the Canuck of the North.

Terrye on April 14, 2009 at 7:13 AM

Fact: 72% have their heads buried in the sand.

sheesh on April 14, 2009 at 7:18 AM

Part of it is simple common man ignorance, part of it is the source. The media has been successful in making America think Cheney is evil, unfortunately.

I wonder what this number would be if Petraeus said Obama would make us weaker. Then it might be closer to the 50/50 divide along partisan lines.

Grafted on April 14, 2009 at 7:43 AM

echosyst on April 13, 2009 at 10:59 PM

Exactly.

Do the poll repondents have nay idea what he has proposed (and what will be done) to military spending? Do they know about the weapons systems which will be ancelled/reduced? The reduction in troop numbers?

Another “poll” which really only shows how stupid that average american is.

catmman on April 14, 2009 at 8:04 AM

Another “poll” which really only shows how stupid that average american is.

catmman

Sadly, yes. The good news: stupid people can wise up given the right teacher.

SKYFOX on April 14, 2009 at 8:16 AM

This poll is evidence that the left wing propaganda machines are up and running. Nearly all media polls are leftward biased and are mathematical garbage. CNN’s goal is to bolster Obama’s political standing and image and they appear to be doing their job well. Anyone can conduct a poll and the results are easily manipulated. Don’t be misled by this left wing psychological warfare.

rplat on April 14, 2009 at 8:52 AM

Abe said this; You can fool some of the people some of the time…….

Herb on April 14, 2009 at 9:19 AM

aaaauuuggghhh!!!

becki51758 on April 14, 2009 at 9:57 AM

We are less safe with this wimpy prez and his preppy sissies.

Col.John Wm. Reed on April 14, 2009 at 10:06 AM

Yes, yes. Those voting heard we’re going to “LET” Iran keep enriching uranium so they can build a bomb and talk to Iran without pre-conditions. We are ALL feeling a mighty 70% safer all the way around today. Yip-pee!

Sultry Beauty on April 14, 2009 at 3:48 PM

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