Not even the Nuremberg defendants got habeas corpus in American courts,

They shouldn’t have even got a trial. The only person who wanted a trial was Stalin. Churchill did NOT want a trial and FDR just liked kissing up to Stalin.

So since FDR agreed with Stalin to a trial, they got a trial.

seems to take about 80-100 years before Historians can look at an era through non partisan eyes..

Heck, just recently they are taking a new look at the depresion….

Romeo13 on April 13, 2009 at 12:07 PM

Sometimes they don’t take that long. For example, Ms. Kearns Goodwin’s husband, historian Richard Goodwin (who was an aide and speechwriter for JFK) came out in July of 1999 with a piece in the NY Times-owned Boston Globe where he concluded that the Presidency of Bill Clinton was a failure-a year and a half before it had even ended.

Goodwin listed numerous examples of Clinton’s failure, and interestingly enough the growing threat of Islamic terrorism was not one of them.

How long until the left demands he be impeached for war crimes?

gwelf on April 13, 2009 at 1:07 PM

The Left actually formally charged the evil Colon Powell with war crimes at The Hague.

And then they immediately forgave him for those war crimes
when he came out last fall and endorsed Dear Leader for President.

That’s “rehabilitation” that old Joe Stalin would be proud of.

I have to think that a lot of the sub-Cabinet vacancies Obama has yet to try to fill are partially due to a lot of folks who’d otherwise fill them finding out that all that they saw during the campaign had nothing to do with reality, and now honestly (out of fear or out of simple logic) do not want to be part of any of it.

Hope and Change meet Hard Cold Facts.

The road to perdition is filled with good intentions…I would hope we can get off this road sooner rather than later.

(Except for what other people have done.)

To all in my Resistance Cell: “The Chair is against the wall, The Chair is against the wall, Johnny has a new bicycle, Johnny has a new bicycle.”

Del Dolemonte on April 13, 2009 at 12:01 PM

LOL… yep… seems to take about 80-100 years before Historians can look at an era through non partisan eyes..

Heck, just recently they are taking a new look at the depresion….

Just as GW Bush stated during the campaign, Obama and his staff will have a different opinion on things when they are getting the daily briefings GW was witness to. I’m glad to see Obama taking these briefings as something other than “screw that, that’s what Bush did.”

Keemo on April 13, 2009 at 10:49 AM

For a while a couple of years ago, former Bush terrorism guy Jack Goldsmith was a hero to the Left, because he left the evil Bush White House and criticized some of Chimpy’s actions in the war on terror.

But then the evil Goldsmith went out on the lecture circuit, and started to defend Bush. One of the cornerstones of his speeches was that Bush was in fact under-reporting to the public what the actual terror threats were.

When Goldsmith started telling this truth, the Left quickly discarded him. But O’bama is finding out exactly what he didn’t have a clue on before conning all of the high school dropouts to vote for him-namely that there are still people out there who want to kill as many of us as possible.

And it’s no bumper sticker slogan. Except to John Edwards.

History will vindicate Bush and Obama will be shown to be a slandering opportunist.

shick on April 13, 2009 at 11:29 AM

I doubt that will be the case, at least not until a future generation of “historians” not even born yet examines Bush’s legacy.

The current crop of “historians” are still whitewashing the legacies of John F. Kennedy and Lyndon Johnson. Considering that the majority of these “historians” either worked for one of the two or did even more (see: Doris Kearns Goodwin “serving under” Lyndon Johnson), they cannot be trusted to be objective.

Especially since their “Dean”, the late Arthur Schlesinger, compared Chimpy’s Congress-sanctioned action against Iraq to the Japanese sneak attack at Pearl Harbor.

No, we will not get an objective historical assessment of President Bush in our lifetimes.

jp on April 13, 2009 at 11:32 AM

And Lincoln did unconstitutional things as well.. so your point?

We need our government to figure out how to do this… because currently the system is not working.

I for one do not want the Executive Branch to be able to hold a civilian indefinatly… there needs to be some oversite… or it will be abused.

But neither do I want the Civlilian courts hampering our ability to wage war…

And all this is going to take some action by Congres…

Thus, my point… like the Piracy laws, its a mess due to competing Legal authorities, Laws, precedents, and treaties….

They need to sit down and figure out how to make this work, within a Constitutional framework…