Obama to lift travel restrictions to Cuba
posted at 5:05 pm on April 13, 2009 by Allahpundit
Sweet. Now we can have the Green Room launch party in Havana, like I wanted. Dates are required, except for me.
Under the new policy, Cuban Americans will now be allowed to travel freely to the island and send as much money as they want to their family members — so long as the money is not going to senior officials of the Cuban government or the Communist Party.
Second, the administration will take steps to open up communications to the island by allowing telecommunications companies to engage in licensing agreements that will support cell phones, satellite televisions and computers there.
Third, the president will reverse restrictions on gift packages imposed by his predecessor, former President George W. Bush, in 2004. The new rules will permit Cuban Americans to send clothing, personal hygiene items and fishing equipment to family members on the island — again, so long as the recipients are not government or Communist Party officials.
CNN’s story on this also implies that the new policies are limited to Cuban-Americans, which can’t be right, I think. Federal law that discriminates on the basis of ethnicity almost always violates equal protection; the policy must be broader than the media’s suggesting. Meanwhile, the GOP — minus RINO Mel Martinez, natch — is hammering The One for having played into the Castro boys’ hands here, with the Diaz-Balart brothers in the House calling him out for a “serious mistake”:
“Unilateral concessions to the dictatorship embolden it to further isolate, imprison and brutalize pro-democracy activists, to continue to dictate which Cubans and Cuban-Americans are able to enter the island, and this unilateral concession provides the dictatorship with critical financial support,” the two said in their statement.
Fair points all, but also equally fair (if not more so) with respect to, say, China, and there’s no travel ban in place there. (Indeed, compare the dramatic difference in tone in the descriptions of China and Cuba on the State Department’s visa page.) CNN cites a poll taken last month showing that 71 percent of Americans want to restore diplomatic relations with Cuba, which doesn’t surprise me: We can debate whether it’s smart policy to punish totalitarian states with travel bans as a rule, but I’m not sure what the argument is for distinguishing between them. As near as I can tell, the Cuba ban is driven mainly by good ol’ fashioned tradition and not wanting to let Fidel, the last vestige of the Cold War, claim a moral victory by outlasting America’s antipathy to him. Or am I overanalyzing it and this is really a simple case of Cuba being small and powerless enough to shun and China being very much not so?
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So 40 years of Containment down the drain.
pseudonominus on April 13, 2009 at 5:07 PM
Let’s just pump a few billion into Cuba’s economy. Fantastic idea.
God, I hate Obama.
Commies always help their own.
ZJPolitical on April 13, 2009 at 5:08 PM
What a good idea, what could go wrong?
Oldnuke on April 13, 2009 at 5:09 PM
Why doesn’t 0bama just go ahead and make Cuba the ’58th’ state That would solve that pesky old Guantanamo problem, and give everyone a nice easy step up to communism that they seem to want.
LegendHasIt on April 13, 2009 at 5:09 PM
Yay! More ways to export cash from the USA.
eforhan on April 13, 2009 at 5:10 PM
I think this was obviously an easy move. It’s a true generational shift.
Now, thinking that this obscene budget is “generational”?
That’s nuts.
But this one actually is, and I think Obama did it in the best way possible. Focus on family travel.
It’s time.
AnninCA on April 13, 2009 at 5:10 PM
Is anyone even going to attempt to handle Allah’s point about how flimsy our “ideals” look when you compare it to how Dem and Repub Administration has dealt with China pretty much since Nixon traveled their in the seventies? If Obama is a “commie” for allowing people to vacation in Cuba what are the rest of the Presidents who awarded China MFN status, sold our debt to them, didn’t boycott the Olympics etc. etc. etc.
Or will it just be bash Obama because we just dont knwo anything else?
DeathToMediaHacks on April 13, 2009 at 5:12 PM
A guest on Glenn Beck just passed out.
amerpundit on April 13, 2009 at 5:12 PM
I’m sure Cuba will reciprocate by allowing Cubans free access to the USA.
kirkill on April 13, 2009 at 5:13 PM
Oh, good. Since 93% of the populace works for the government, there’s very little chance of that happening.
MadisonConservative on April 13, 2009 at 5:13 PM
Is that a joke?
Repurblican on April 13, 2009 at 5:13 PM
I’m thinkin’ it’s that.
OneGyT on April 13, 2009 at 5:14 PM
“…and send as much money as they want to their family members — so long as the money is not going to senior officials of the Cuban government or the Communist Party.”
Huh? Since ‘the party’ owns everything, once you ‘buy’ something, ‘the party’ has the money. Is this a difficult concept to grasp, or are our ‘educated elite’ in the White House so educated that they are actually STUPID?
GarandFan on April 13, 2009 at 5:14 PM
Communist capitulation or first move to try to counter Chavez’ socialism?
You chooooose…
Skywise on April 13, 2009 at 5:14 PM
Is this for real? Oh crappola!
upinak on April 13, 2009 at 5:14 PM
Well what will happen?
I think the inexorable osmotic pressure of the superiority of western capitalism is going to roll over Cuba like a tsunami.
Do you think we should be worried about being infected by the commie virus? Au contraire, this is one place where democracy WILL spread.
The Bush Doctrine LIVES!!!!
lol
strangelet on April 13, 2009 at 5:14 PM
Does anyone have Johnny Olin’s phone number? I need some R and R. Fredo, what up, Dawg?
Leopold Stotch on April 13, 2009 at 5:15 PM
Great, lets reward a regime that has punished their people for decades…ask the Cubans in America what they think about Castro. He was an insane dictator, that was more interested in power, then helping his people…what else is new for a dictator.
If they wanted “our money” all they had to do was get rid of Castro…
All GM had to do was get rid of their leader…
right2bright on April 13, 2009 at 5:15 PM
“Obama to lift travel restrictions to Cuba.”
And Obama is moving to Havana when?
coldwarrior on April 13, 2009 at 5:16 PM
Who is going to oversee this…Barney Frank???
right2bright on April 13, 2009 at 5:16 PM
Look at the bright side; we can go to Cuba to get medical treatment now.
carbon_footprint on April 13, 2009 at 5:16 PM
O/T but mui importante, sorta kinda:
Pr0n pioneer Marilyn Chambers dead at 56
Discuss
Mike D. on April 13, 2009 at 5:16 PM
What has me worried… is if we “lift” the ban, how many cubans (or what they think is cuban) will come over and disappear in the U.S.? Makes you wonder!
upinak on April 13, 2009 at 5:16 PM
Worth posting again.
right2bright on April 13, 2009 at 5:17 PM
Doesn’t it look like it…..
DeathToMediaHacks on April 13, 2009 at 5:17 PM
Anyone need decent dental work? :)
AnninCA on April 13, 2009 at 5:18 PM
Try to keep your right wing outrage straight. In the 90s your side totally encouraged illegal immigration of Cubans (remember the Elian Gonzalez moment Reno was vilified for?) Or are you just finding it hard to keep all the things you hate about all people with a D straight in your mind?
DeathToMediaHacks on April 13, 2009 at 5:19 PM
So , anyone speak cuban?
the_nile on April 13, 2009 at 5:19 PM
Oh man, this is great news for Michael Moore and all those 20-something hipsters! Now Michael Moore will have unfettered access to Cuba’s awesome health care system and all the 20-something hipsters can wear their Che t-shirts somewhere where their reverence for Che will be admired and appreciated more!
Win-win!!
Liberty or Death on April 13, 2009 at 5:19 PM
If I was Prez, and lifted travel restrictions to Cuba, it would be just for military personnel…
Nethicus on April 13, 2009 at 5:20 PM
LOL great!!!
deidre on April 13, 2009 at 5:20 PM
Looks like pandering to Cuban Americans in FL to garner more votes. TOTUS is still running for TOTUS after all.
davek70 on April 13, 2009 at 5:20 PM
Actually I think it’s narrower than the media suggests. I believe I read that it was only open to people who had family still living on the island.
joe_doufu on April 13, 2009 at 5:21 PM
finally we can put this Cuba thing to rest. Richard Lugar’s recommendations were taken and acted on. One more think Obama has done correctly!!!!
Monkei on April 13, 2009 at 5:23 PM
Typical Obama decision with no thought what so ever put into it. So now money/food/aid will be going directly into the hands of a communist regime with no safeguards in place, like our money to North Korea, African countries, and every where else where the stuff is supposed to be going to the “people” and ends up in the hands of the dictators. Great!
Now if they get some cheap beach vacation packages together, that is a different story.
Vigilante on April 13, 2009 at 5:23 PM
It’s, indeed, quite narrow.
This is when Republicans get to support change.
Up to you guys, of course.
But it’s a clear generational change that really is quite appropriate and timely.
The younger Cubans simply don’t share their parent’s attitudes on this.
Time to move on.
This was an easy change that shouldn’t fluster people too much, unless you’re just so partisan that the other side never does anything right.
AnninCA on April 13, 2009 at 5:24 PM
http://www.cuial.com/fidel_obama.jpg
izoneguy on April 13, 2009 at 5:25 PM
The President is on a roll.
getalife on April 13, 2009 at 5:25 PM
True, getalife……..including the dog. :)
That’s a breather. Next week?
Who knows?
AnninCA on April 13, 2009 at 5:26 PM
Cuba and China are not equals, there are major distinctions here.
There are also thousands of exiles in America that have grievances with State to reclaim Property stolen by Castro from them. Are we throwing this out the window now?
Its interesting that a Racist who is white(Castro) and has mostly Black Political Prisoners and basically an Apartheid Regime is Okay with the Congressional black caucus, where as say South Africa was not.
jp on April 13, 2009 at 5:27 PM
Seems to me that it was a Democrat President who let 33,000 Cubans into the US in 1995. And also sent those rescued at sea back to Cuba, where they were most certainly “disciplined”.
What was his name again?
Del Dolemonte on April 13, 2009 at 5:27 PM
Wonder if they’ll re-start those wonderful old night club acts…Senor Chocolat, for example and others. My Uncle said he got quite an education in Cuba in the late 1950′s.
coldwarrior on April 13, 2009 at 5:27 PM
Hah, AP you’re funny! Don’t be so negative, I’m sure you could find a 20-something hipster gal to take with you that is just dying to wear her Che t-shirt in Cuba!
Liberty or Death on April 13, 2009 at 5:27 PM
Yeah, rolling Cuban cigars and probably some other stuff, too.
Otis B on April 13, 2009 at 5:28 PM
Dude… China basically holds all the U.S. government’s debt, so of course they’re basically Obama’s boss. Cuba on the other had is still small enough to kick around.
Illinidiva on April 13, 2009 at 5:28 PM
I don’t recall China ever threatening to wipe us out?
Do you?
Skywise on April 13, 2009 at 5:28 PM
Why would they? They own us.
SnarkVader on April 13, 2009 at 5:31 PM
Oh, great.
One more pipeline for radical revolutionary ideas for Mein Fuhrer.
madmonkphotog on April 13, 2009 at 5:31 PM
In China, they are allowing business and entreprenuership now. they have moderated a great deal since Mao
In Cuba, you are a slave to the state to the extreme. They ration food, the cubans aren’t allowed to visit the resort areas, food is rationed by the Govt.
Plus, when Nixon went to China we needed to do so because of their size. It was an odd alliance, but was needed to make things Tough on the Soviets.
History is full of odd/uncomfortable alliances however. We did this with the Soviets obviously in WW2. Protestant led England, allied with Catholic France against war with the Evil Catholics of Spain at the time, in the 17th century.
jp on April 13, 2009 at 5:32 PM
they own as much of our debt as Japan does. Japan was the boogey man in the 80′s and early 90′s…now its China it seems.
US Citizens own more of the debt than both China and Japan combined.
jp on April 13, 2009 at 5:33 PM
Obirony: By 2012 Cubans have more economic and political freedom than US citizens.
(Not a prediction, but I could just imagine it working out that way…)
ZenDraken on April 13, 2009 at 5:34 PM
Yeah the number of people controlled and abused by China is in the tens of millions and spans multiple nations. I totally get why our ideals don’t apply to them. Or, wait a minute, we don’t HAVE ideals we just bow to power. Which is why the Saudi bow was such a dumb controversy. We’ve been figuratively bowing to them for much longer.
DeathToMediaHacks on April 13, 2009 at 5:34 PM
How many Chinese atheletes come to America and then defect? happens often with Cubans.
how many chinese build homemade rafts and attempt to swim to Hawaii?
They do this all the time in Cuba, really all you need to know about the hell hole in paradise.
jp on April 13, 2009 at 5:35 PM
Ok “Obama didn’t bow , and bush did it too!”
the_nile on April 13, 2009 at 5:36 PM
Can the GOp make a trade with Obama: If Obama lifts the travel ban, he agrees to lift the oil drilling ban? I will take that trade in a heart beat. And if the heart beat doesn’t come, I can go to Cuba for the great health care.
WashJeff on April 13, 2009 at 5:36 PM
Get ready for gitmo protests outside of gitmo.
hotdax on April 13, 2009 at 5:36 PM
I’m so not getting this China sidebar.
This is about Cuban cigars and Canadian travel companies. *haha
It’s way time to move forward.
AnninCA on April 13, 2009 at 5:37 PM
” Is anyone even going to attempt to handle Allah’s point about how flimsy our “ideals” look when you compare it to how Dem and Repub Administration has dealt with China pretty much since Nixon traveled their in the seventies?
Doesn’t it look like it…..”
Cuba was always about political optics – how could the US be seen having normal relations with a dictator who made the US look bad with the Cuban Missile crisis, is a communist who openly courted the Soviets in the Cold war and whose tyranny caused hundreds of thousands of Cubans to escape the island to freedom in the US ??
China is a communist country too – how ever it has helped the US against the Soviets during the Cold war and pretty much every one on both sides of the political aisle saw this as an alliance of convenience and necessity. The “ideals” flew out the window as soon as the US realized that it was actually helpful to its strategy to grow China up to counter Russia given the China-Russian fall out in the 60′s.
But i agree that this is a long overdue decision – by creating these travel restrictions, the US did not do anything to shake Castro’s power – it was more a sign of showing how a super power would not deal with an openly hostile and tiny communist neighbor. And worse, the Cuban people never got to see how their brethren were doing in the states.
If Cuban Americans go to Havana and show how much they have prospered, would this not make the native Cubans even more angry at Castro? It is not enough that they have to put this 5 hour speeches, but now their relatives from the US are now going to show them that they have made it in America… while the Cubans have no aspirations and chances of making it big.. boy, that’s got to hurt.
As some one pointed out, this is more a generational thing – younger Cuban Americans were drawn to Obama’s promise of relaxing the travel restrictions and voted for him, delivering Florida.
As much as i hate to acknowledge this, Obama seems to be having a good week.
nagee76 on April 13, 2009 at 5:37 PM
If this resulted in Cuba being a successful nation with the intent making progress for its people and non belligerent behavior that would be fine, however, it is more probable that a portal to funnel criminal behavior, terrorism, Illegal money transfers, front organizations for drug dealing, has just been opened up. Bad actors don’t reciprocate good for good they just say sucker and wait for more concessions.
rsl775 on April 13, 2009 at 5:39 PM
don’t forget, Castro nearly pulled off a 9/11 Scale Attack on NYC in the 1960′s that Hoover thwarted. The Macy’s plot.
http://www.humanevents.com/article.php?id=10612
jp on April 13, 2009 at 5:40 PM
At least Cuba was able to give each family a rice cooker. All we get in the USA is $175,000 in debt per family. ;-)
WashJeff on April 13, 2009 at 5:42 PM
I am sure Chavez of Venezuela would not want more interaction of America with Cuba.
Cuba would rather be leaning more towards the US than Venezuela.
The Cuba ban seems to be some national hangover from a blunder and embarrassment by the Kennedy boys at the Bay of Pigs. (Or the CIA has hard evidence that Castro knocked off Kennedy.)
Flood Cuba with capitalism, American “can do”, internet and cell phones and the Castro boys will be gone in a year or two.
albill on April 13, 2009 at 5:46 PM
Not even President Clinton was this arrogant!
azcop on April 13, 2009 at 5:48 PM
I guess the word ‘directly’ was left out of the text on accident, so I added it as appropriate.
Vashta.Nerada on April 13, 2009 at 5:48 PM
http://www.therealcuba.com/
jp on April 13, 2009 at 5:50 PM
I would be more fun if the commie-symp Obama-ites opened full relations with the commies in Cuba, and the resulting travle and communications chaos enabled the CIA to finally go in and do it right.
Now that’s change I could believe in.
Jaibones on April 13, 2009 at 5:50 PM
Maybe this could be a good thing in the long run. Lefties are always telling us about how wonderful and egalitarian Cuba is, with its wonderful medical care and all. Perhaps thousands of Americans should see it for themselves each year and bring back stories of what Cuba is really like. A friend of mine went a couple of years ago. Believe it or not, he’s a vet and was given permission to go as he was delivering medication. He took his wife and son. They were not impressed. But they said the place was crawling with Canadians and Europeans. At this point, after 50 years or so, I don’t see the point of continuing the ban on travel. Most of the rest of the world looks at the travel ban as ridiculous; a sort of sour grapes on our part.
I just don’t think the travel ban is effective, especially when Air Canada and British Airways fly into Havana everday.
sdillard on April 13, 2009 at 5:53 PM
http://www.therealcuba.com/page5.htm
This is the leadership Obama is endorsing.
If Cuba let people leave there would be no
Cuba left.
izoneguy on April 13, 2009 at 6:00 PM
the Tourist portion of Cuba is far different from the rest of the place. Regular cubans aren’t allowed to visit the casinos and resorts, only the cubans that work for the regime are there.
the place is a hell hole
jp on April 13, 2009 at 6:00 PM
Is this useful idiot naive or merely a wink wink rule? Surely they will
askdemand a kickback from everyone who gets a visit or package from a Yankee relative.Buy Danish on April 13, 2009 at 6:02 PM
Are people nuts? Cuba takes the money from the people and they harbor terrorists. In Venezuela, they’ve captured terrorists with Cuban and Venezuelan passports, whom we’re going to enter into the US.
Over 70% of Cuba’s economy is funded from American dollars sent from US relatives to Cuba. If we do an embargo where absolutely no money goes to Cuba, watch how the people will turn over that government. Right now, Cubans are getting money from their relatives and they’re not working. They could care less about tyranny because their relatives are giving the microwaves, TVs, etc. This will not help.
We talk about the welfare in this country, now, we’re funding additional welfare in a socialist country.
jencab on April 13, 2009 at 6:02 PM
From his grave, Dr. Martin Luther King Jr. answers the members of the Black Caucus who went to Cuba
Dr. Martin Luther King Jr. was assassinated in 1968 and cannot comment directly about the hypocritical members of the Congressional Black Caucus who went to Cuba to lick the bloodied boots of a dictator that has enslaved 11 million Cubans for 50 years.
But we can quote the leader of the American Civil Rights movement to show what he would have told those who today proclaim to follow his principles, while doing completely the opposite of what he preached.
Here is a famous quote by Dr. King, that applies perfectly to those members of the Black Caucus (Communists) who went to Cuba to support an evil dictator:
“He who passively accepts evil is as much involved in it as he who helps to perpetrate it. He who accepts evil without protesting against it is really cooperating with it. … So in order to be true to one’s conscience and true to God, a righteous man has no alternative but to refuse to cooperate with an evil system.” From Dr King’s book “Stride Toward Freedom,” Page 51.
Obama is not a righteous man.
izoneguy on April 13, 2009 at 6:02 PM
Anyone know what the gift tax rate is in Cuba? 100%?
meci on April 13, 2009 at 6:03 PM
I refuse to holiday in Cuba and when any of my fellow Canucks state they’ve gone there I casually state that I won’t support a totalitarian regime. I’m not a dick about it I just make my opinion quietly known.
Having said that I’m wondering how long the regime will last if you suddenly have hundreds of thousands, if not millions of Americans joining the world’s tourists.
Perhaps this is the “shove” that could topple Fidel and Raul and allow the people of Cuba the chance to break free.
Just sayin’
Give them a whole lotta taste of the US of A instead of restricting things and hopefully the Cuban people will realize how badly they’ve been boned by Fidel and his cronies all these decades and say, “enough’s enough.”
MT
Mistahtibbs on April 13, 2009 at 6:05 PM
Yeah baby,
I’m thinking a few bundles of 7 X 60 stoges, some hot cubanitas and a sundowner while anchored off Pasa Marcos.
Arriba…
OkieDoc on April 13, 2009 at 6:07 PM
China give America money. Cuba only make cigar.
keep the change on April 13, 2009 at 6:07 PM
To me this is a bit like letting an old, sick Al Capone out of jail. Cuba is no threat to anyone anymore, except their own people, and at this point I don’t think anything we will do can either prop them up or hasten their demise. The Castro regime will fade away into history in a few years.
grahampowell on April 13, 2009 at 6:08 PM
As a rule, I think the more exposure to Americans (and citizens of other free countries) that Cubans get, the better. Opening Cuba up for American tourism, etc., will probably produce capitalist pressures within Cuba, a welcome development that isn’t encouraged by travel bans
DaveS on April 13, 2009 at 6:11 PM
Uhhh…doesn’t everyone work for the government in a communist state in some form or another…I’m sure this provision will be strictly enforced. Let’s try to send Fidel a pizza and see what happens
AmericanUnderground on April 13, 2009 at 6:13 PM
The only thing this is teaching other rogue nations is that if they hold out long enough, they’ll eventually win.
Totalitarian dictatorships have a hell of a lot more patience than the United States, which is a shame.
50 years down the drain. Nice move, Barry.
pullingmyhairout on April 13, 2009 at 6:18 PM
I heard that next Thursday is Cuban sandwich day at the White House. Pizza can get so boring.
Y-not on April 13, 2009 at 6:21 PM
Obama will probably start recuiting Cuban communists for his administration.
izoneguy on April 13, 2009 at 6:24 PM
It’s been alluded to by others, but I see the basic difference as having 2 points: history and geography.
Our relationship with each is very different, based on accumulated actions and participation. It’s difficult in a real-world context to treat every nation exactly the same based on an objective criteria. Also, there are obvious differences between how we interact with a dictator on the other side of the globe and within a few miles of our coastline.
This could be a good move, but I doubt it. Part of that is based on my general suspicion of Obama, honestly.
cs89 on April 13, 2009 at 6:30 PM
Frankly, I think it’s too late for that. We’re already infected.
Dark-Star on April 13, 2009 at 6:32 PM
Now gay marrieds will be able to honeymoon in Havana, how romantic.
I’m sure all you Florida democrats are happy about this development. Mel Martinez may be speaking crossly but he knew that McCain wouldn’t have supported this policy but he chose to support Obama, who clearly did support this policy. I hope Martinez gets fried in his next election.
eaglewingz08 on April 13, 2009 at 6:35 PM
Diet Coke out the nose! I hope you have some windex for my computer monitor.
Bob's Kid on April 13, 2009 at 6:41 PM
I don’t really have a problem with this- does anyone really think that Castro (or his brother) are going to hang it up if their American relatives can’t send them money anymore?
Most Cuban-Americans are extremely anti-Castro; if there’s to be any kind of anti-Communist backlash in Cuba, it’ll likely be funded and supported by Cuban-Americans and possibly carried out by their Cuban relatives.
Surely it must make an impression to the Cuban people that their Cuban-American counterparts are so much better off than they. Must be hard to convince the population that all their problems are caused by the Big Bad Evil US when so many of them rely on American goodwill.
Castro is a bastard, and Cuba is a shadow of what it could become were it to become a free country. We shouldn’t be doing anything to support or legitimize the regime, but allowing relatives to support the people isn’t necessarily a bad thing.
Hollowpoint on April 13, 2009 at 6:48 PM
I think that pretty much sums it up. I mean, if everyone else in the free world isn`t in on the embargo, what good is it. The China point is a good one too.
ThePrez on April 13, 2009 at 6:56 PM
This is all just a big favor to Bill Clinton, who wants a good cigar.
Daggett on April 13, 2009 at 6:57 PM
Now THAT was funny! :D
Daggett on April 13, 2009 at 6:58 PM
Right. Because if it isn’t mailed directly to them, there’s no possible way they could get their hands on it.
Blacklake on April 13, 2009 at 7:06 PM
1957 Castro = 2009 Somali Pirate
nolapol on April 13, 2009 at 7:09 PM
COMING TO A THEATRE NEAR YOU SOON…..MOONBATS CIRCLEING GUANTANIMO BAY DETENTION CENTER…..
UNREPENTANT CONSERVATIVE CAPITOLIST on April 13, 2009 at 7:14 PM
Never worked, Kennedy was a looney.
- The Cat
MirCat on April 13, 2009 at 7:24 PM
So begs the question. Is he going to use this to close it down, or he’s such teh novice that he didn’t see this coming?
- The Cat
MirCat on April 13, 2009 at 7:26 PM
I wonder how the Exile Cubans will vote in the next election.
jdun on April 13, 2009 at 7:26 PM
I’m just pissed that a Conservative administration didn’t do this years ago.
Fastest way to kill communism? introduce some capitalism. Duh!
watson007 on April 13, 2009 at 7:42 PM
Well, in order to do my part to make this administration the mirror image of the glorious JFK Camelot, I am packing my beard depilatories and exploding seashells forthwith.
Uncle Pinky on April 13, 2009 at 7:51 PM
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