Video: Angry guy dressed as Founding Father ready for the tea parties
posted at 5:00 pm on April 11, 2009 by Allahpundit
Yeah, this guy again. He and Beck have a thing for Thomas Paine because of the revolutionary resonance of “Common Sense,” to the point where GB claims to be rewriting that pamphlet for a modern audience. Fair enough, but a guy who takes as much inspiration from Moses and Jesus as Beck does might want to be careful about stirring up a vogue for Paine. Conservative populists won’t like everything they find there.
Note the comparison towards the end between Pearl Harbor, 9/11, and … the spending bill, all perpetrated by a sinister “they.”
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Paine, among other failures, endorsed the French Revolution and was a rationalist Jacobin.
Edmund Burke saw those dangers. Against the Jacobin geometricians he said, “We must preserved in order to reform; and reform in order to reform.”
We need a reformation, not a revolution.
Quote and follow Burke, not Paine.
This will be on the final.
SteveMG on April 11, 2009 at 5:05 PM
Hear!! Hear!! Hail Thomas Paine! Hail Glenn Beck!!
Dire Straits on April 11, 2009 at 5:06 PM
I liked it. Thought it was well delivered, though I think Beck should be channeling Burke or Adams.
Daemonocracy on April 11, 2009 at 5:09 PM
That’s a liberal trick. They take the lowest point of a man’s life (I say low in this case because G. Washington and J. Adams thought he went crazy) and extrapolate that to be the measure of a man’s life.
Conservatives take the best of a man’s life and hold that up for example. It’s an issue of living up to, or living down to.
Spirit of 1776 on April 11, 2009 at 5:09 PM
Angry Old Guy/Beck 12!
Speedwagon82 on April 11, 2009 at 5:11 PM
Kinda like libs mocking Reagan in his last years?
I don’t know; was Paine really close to insanity when he dissed God’s word?
jgapinoy on April 11, 2009 at 5:13 PM
He’s still alive.
I thought they had got him.
Joe Caps on April 11, 2009 at 5:13 PM
Paine was an advocate of the welfare state. The only reason he is being channeled by conservatives is due to his passionate style of writing pre-revolution, that’s it.
“personal property is the effect of society . . . All
accumulation, therefore, of personal property, beyond what a man’s own hands produce, is derived to him by living in society; and he owes . . . a part of that accumulation back again to society from whence the whole came.” – Thomas Paine
V15J on April 11, 2009 at 5:13 PM
Ya know what? I’ll take anything that gets a fire burning in our seemingly blind citizenry….even if it is a bit ‘innacurate’. Nothing is more full of holes and outright lies than that horsecrap this administration is shoveling out these days. Play Thomas Paine, I’m glad for the kick in the butt!
dustoffmom on April 11, 2009 at 5:13 PM
To the honorable gentlemen: No conservative, it seems to me, would endorse the ideas of a man who supported the French Revolution and that Jacobin rabble.
Fie, I say.
The modern era of conservatism began as a complete rejection of that seminal event and those that embraced it.
It’d be like quoting a man who endorsed the Russian Revolution.
Fie I say, fie.
SteveMG on April 11, 2009 at 5:14 PM
Jacobin rabble? Fie?
I should get something for being the first person who used those words here.
If I’m not the first, I’ll take second prize. Two autographed pictures of AP?
SteveMG on April 11, 2009 at 5:16 PM
I don’t know, but those two thought he was gone crazy. Regardless social cons are not fragile little eggs (at least not the ones I know). Take Hewitt’s interviews of Hitchens. They make enjoyable radio, I doubt Hugh’s listeners turned off the radio b/c it conflicted with their world-view.
My point is that attacking Paine is petty. Saying conservatives shouldn’t read Paine is a trick liberals often use.
And with due respect to SteveMG, it was Paine who twice materially affected the progression toward liberty. And what better words have been uttered then, “These are the times that try men’s souls. The summer soldier and the sunshine patriot will, in this crisis, shrink from the service of their country; but he that stands by it now, deserves the love and thanks of man and woman. Tyranny, like hell, is not easily conquered; yet we have this consolation with us, that the harder the conflict, the more glorious the triumph. What we obtain too cheap, we esteem too lightly: it is dearness only that gives every thing its value. Heaven knows how to put a proper price upon its goods; and it would be strange indeed if so celestial an article as Freedom should not be highly rated.”
Spirit of 1776 on April 11, 2009 at 5:19 PM
Really? I dig Beck’s energy; we need that right now. I also admire that he has the courage to say things and and examine topics that give other TV “conservatives” nightmares (I’m looking at you O’Reilly. And I love that he talks principals and philosophy when everywhere else we are bombarded with politics and, at best, policy.
But “Hail Beck”? Seriously? He really is the clown he says he is. This is a man who uses prop gags and “funny” voices to make a point. This is a man who spent the better part of a week examining the legality and psychology of shooting a dog. He unevenness makes him a distraction from his own good message.
So, in short, I admire the philosophy of the man, not the man.
Nessuno on April 11, 2009 at 5:19 PM
Hey I know my history. As I wrote a few posts above, I’m with Burke. Beck is a well read guy, and Paine wrote some fiery speeches in favor of the American revolution, but he was all over the place ideologically and seemed to lack focus.
Daemonocracy on April 11, 2009 at 5:19 PM
And when the reformation doesn’t work, then the revolution? Like we say “You go ahead and give peace a chance. We’ll cover you when things go bad.”
Amendment X on April 11, 2009 at 5:20 PM
I made the mistake of going over to LGF to read the comments on a Glenn Beck thread, and after reading 500 comments, found the consensus:
A beer party protest for the GOP would be the BEST!
Please, let the moderates have the GOP. Just let it burn. There is nothing to build on. It’s a corpse.
jeff_from_mpls on April 11, 2009 at 5:21 PM
Amendment X, you beat me too it. I’m willing to give reformation a try but will not rule out revolution. The people are ready. In Boston, we’ve gone from 250 attending a Tea Party to 5,000 attending three events across the city over 6 hours – and that’s just the rough estimate. If they’re mad in Boston, they’re fuming elsewhere.
gopmom on April 11, 2009 at 5:22 PM
I personally like Glenn Beck and enjoy his style for entertainment purposes, but well said on your part. At least you bothered to separate the words from the antics.
Daemonocracy on April 11, 2009 at 5:23 PM
Glen Beck is on Fox right now doing a show called Destined to Repeat? Heads to explode in 3…2…1…
doriangrey on April 11, 2009 at 5:24 PM
I disagree. I’m starting within the party, reworking it from the ground up. My town in MA has a dormant Republican Town Committee – until next week. We’re taking over and we’re all hard core conservatives.
gopmom on April 11, 2009 at 5:25 PM
Tom Paine wasn’t perfect, but he got the job done.
Would Americans have supported the Revolution without Common Sense? Would the exhausted soldiers have fought on without The Crisis? Who knows?
Let Tom Paine rest in peace…as much peace as his disintered and lost bones can manage.
Disturb the Universe on April 11, 2009 at 5:26 PM
Wait wait, what exactly do you mean by “revolution”? Are you actually thinking about taking up arms or are you just romanticizing?
Daemonocracy on April 11, 2009 at 5:26 PM
I liked this latest video. Our ersatz Paine hit the major issues right on the head and tied the Congress in with the other attacks on the US. Very well done.
I would say one thing; the Judiciary is responsible for so many of our problems, but they skate free, usually, because their rulings are generally not felt until after some time and their cost to us (in terms of the money that is sucked from the population in order to satisfy their idiotic rulings) is not explicit enough for people to make the connections.
If the Judiciary had done its job, one of the eligibility cases would have been heard and that whole issue would have been taken off the table (with the likely outcome that anyone who ever held multiple citizenships has forfeited any claims to natural-born status, as the Founders clearly intended).
progressoverpeace on April 11, 2009 at 5:27 PM
Thomas Paine hated George Washington.
nuff said
The Wall on April 11, 2009 at 5:28 PM
Yeah, let’s hold off on the total adulation of Paine. He supported a guaranteed minimum income, opposed capital punishment, wasn’t exactly a fan of organized religion, was an early supporter of universal (and entirely free) education, thought land ownership was overrated, and proposed an early form of Social Security. Not the best conservative model to go on.
amerpundit on April 11, 2009 at 5:29 PM
wow, gopmom, you’ve been rolling up there in boston. congrats to you & many thanks for your work.
gopmom is an example of a “soldier” without a uniform. we must all follow her example of leadership.
and hey, i don’t even know her.
kelley in virginia on April 11, 2009 at 5:29 PM
btw, how can you take seriously a guy that parades around in hallowee garb like that goofy guy in the revolutionary war apparrel?
when you are that old, its time to grow up
The Wall on April 11, 2009 at 5:29 PM
If the citizens of the Peoples Republic of Taxichuttes can escape the somnolence of happy fascism and reality television then their is indeed hope for America…
doriangrey on April 11, 2009 at 5:29 PM
There’s a significant difference between showing up at an organized protest with a sign and revolution. I think we’d find very few protestors willing to raise arms, overthrow the government, and start anew. Protest? Yes. Revolution? Not so much.
amerpundit on April 11, 2009 at 5:31 PM
Ya, not going to happen…
doriangrey on April 11, 2009 at 5:32 PM
& gopmom, i’m starting with our county delegates to the Va. State Rep. Convention. some are very religious right, some are not. i hope we can all band together to get rid of congress, the president & start over with new, fiscal conservatives. no one could be worse.
kelley in virginia on April 11, 2009 at 5:32 PM
Oh, can I answer too?
Depends how far they go with the nationalization? Do they want my family’s business? Or what about the Give/Serve Act? They’re not getting their hands on my daughter. Or my parents or grandparents. What about education? My kid goes to parochial school – and will for 8 more years. She will never set foot in a public school. How about the “Conscience clause”? Will Catholic hospitals be confiscated by the Feds? Shutting down the power we are (still) willing to pay for? Confiscating guns? Outlawing my preferred motor vehicle – that I own?
I don’t know where my line in the sand is yet – but I do know there is one.
gopmom on April 11, 2009 at 5:32 PM
More Wikipedia on Paine:
His views seem to greatly justify that claim.
amerpundit on April 11, 2009 at 5:32 PM
reading Common Sense whe I was 14 turned me into a conservative. And that was when I read and understoond that government is a neccesary evil.
I could care less what else Paine wrote, what he did in his later life, what revolution he endorsed etc.
The man that wrote and understood those two words will always stand as an inspiration to me.
A man’s contribution to society is not a summation of his entire life work. Some people make a mark on socity of just one phrase one idea. Those that look for perfection in man is sadly going to have no hero’s no saints. the only perfect being is God.
unseen on April 11, 2009 at 5:33 PM
I’m glad I trouble to read blogs. Now I see Paine as the second coming of Palin, to wit, a cult of personality leader who presents a clear and present danger to America.
I think we should, actually, collectively issue a harshly worded statement against the tea parties. If you look at Sam Adams’s other ventures, you would have to say he was a failed capitalist. “Conservative populists” can’t be tied to that!
Is it just me, or is “populist” the new buzz word?
Spirit of 1776 on April 11, 2009 at 5:34 PM
Towards what end was Paine directed?
It’s one thing to tear down the edifice; but another to replace it. In America the war was a revolution averted. In France, it was a revolution embraced.
As Burke pointed out, the Jacobins rejected all of the past, not just the corrupt parts, and thought they could replace all that went before by the mere strength of their minds. That’s why he said, reform in order to preserve, preserve in order to reform.
It’s a good analogy then: It’s one thing to be opposed to Obama’s policies; but one must offer a viable alternative.
“I’m against the bailouts” is a nice marching slogan. Paine was good at such sayings.
But it’s not a governing policy.
SteveMG on April 11, 2009 at 5:35 PM
Dissolve the 2nd amendment.
Spirit of 1776 on April 11, 2009 at 5:35 PM
Hate to break it to you but I’m from Ohio. I’ve only been here 4 some years – not long enough to have been infected yet.
But I am truly astounded at how many people there are like me – true fiscal conservatives (and social but that’s really not the issue right now.) Turns out all they needed was a Commie in the WH to motivate them.
gopmom on April 11, 2009 at 5:35 PM
I just do not see a million Americans storming DC with tea bags, let alone millions as that actor (who is he?) says.
Note: What’s with the honking of the horns? Wouldn’t it be better to call/fax congress instead?
Darnell Clayton on April 11, 2009 at 5:37 PM
Paine was a great revolutionary. Don’t get me wrong on that mark. He’s certainly a justly admired Forefather. All I’m saying is that he shouldn’t become some conservative role model. It wasn’t one or two crazy things he said at the end of his life that are overshadowed by his greatness; there are quite a few positions that would make conservatives (rightly) recoil.
amerpundit on April 11, 2009 at 5:38 PM
I’m sorry I don’t understand the question.
What I gather from Cavuto (and I should read Malkin to confirm, I suppose) is that the marching has been a grassroots movement to protest implementation of generational debt. The alternative is, uh, don’t.
Spirit of 1776 on April 11, 2009 at 5:38 PM
No worries, you are there now and you are a part of the Awakening… ;)
doriangrey on April 11, 2009 at 5:38 PM
As a bible believing Christian, I have no problem at all considering an opinion on politics from someone who questions the authenticity of or doesn’t believe in the bible. So what? Just like I said about Romney, I’m not evaluating his views/opinions for their religious value/wisdom/insight, I’m evaluating them for their political value/wisdom/insight.
It is only the LEFT and other non-thinkers who reject in whole everything someone says when that person doesn’t agree with them.
People who THINK and REASON are not afraid to explore not only differing opinions, but take valuable contributions from those whom they disagree with on other topics.
The key to civility and restoring our political system is finding commonality with those whom with we disagree and moving forward on those issues.
Please stop dismissing Christians completely out of hand as if we won’t consider the opinion of someone who is not a Christian. That doesn’t describe me.
JustTruth101 on April 11, 2009 at 5:38 PM
Removing elements of the Bill of Rights is a different story. Out of control spending and future taxation is hardly the same.
amerpundit on April 11, 2009 at 5:40 PM
yeah, but, we got these things called elections and to influence these elections we exchange and debate ideas and policy. That’s how we normally get things done. A Revolution? We’re not quite there yet…
come back to me when we no longer have the freedom to vote or speak freely.
Daemonocracy on April 11, 2009 at 5:40 PM
Yeah, I understand your entire point. I’m not trying to villify you (or AP). But the blogs are definitely first-adopters of silly fears.
“Paine is a bad influence!” No, he’s not.
“Palin could develop into a cult of personality! She’s our Obama!” Hardly.
How about instead of stamping on enthusiasm like we are trying to put out a fire, we worry about bad things when they happen. Or work on real issues, say like the primary system.
Spirit of 1776 on April 11, 2009 at 5:40 PM
Some of the things that Jesus Christ said made people recoil, it happens. People who stand up and speak out offend people.
doriangrey on April 11, 2009 at 5:41 PM
Patrick is the first Dem governor since Dukakis in ’91, right?
amerpundit on April 11, 2009 at 5:42 PM
That an interesting (but futile) argument, considering ‘out of control spending’ and ‘future taxation’ were stimulus to a new government that formed that Bill of Rights.
Spirit of 1776 on April 11, 2009 at 5:42 PM
In Boston, we will have a booth where attendees can write out a postcard to their rep of choice (Picture of USA flag and tea bag on front – 2,000 cards printed & donated by a law student). We will bulk mail and/or hand deliver as many as possible within Massachusetts and I’m considering a drive to DC to deliver the rest.
I look at all the bells and whistles associated with the Tea Parties (literally – you can buy them everywhere) as just another example of how capitalism works. Here we are, coming together from all over the country to motivate people into action and somewhere, someone’s making a living at the same time – despite totus’s best efforts to unemploy us all.
Don’t miss the message – do something – anything.
gopmom on April 11, 2009 at 5:42 PM
BITE ME!
Yeah, not going to happen….
The Wall on April 11, 2009 at 5:43 PM
I like this guy.
One little gratuitous bit is expecting the blacks to show up in any number. 95% voted for TOTUS and are demanding that he fill their gas tanks and pay their mortgage. I don’t think “La Raza” will show up either, especially at the Alamo.
Vive la Blanc!
GunRunner on April 11, 2009 at 5:43 PM
ROTFLMAO…. Should that time come, and it does indeed seem to be coming, gopmom will not be able to come back to you… ;p
doriangrey on April 11, 2009 at 5:44 PM
Sorry, what type of government/state did he envision after the overthrow of the monarchy?
It’s one thing to overthrow the ancien regime; it’s another to replace it. With what?
The problem that Burke saw was that the children of the Enlightenment were seduced by the new science of the times. They thought that the newly-discovered laws of science could be applied to governing.
And so, all that went before could be swept away and the new enlightened man could re-order his world.
SteveMG on April 11, 2009 at 5:44 PM
Glenn Beck, like the candle in the darkness, came onto the scene just at the right time. The perfect “wave” of him, American anger at government run a muck, and the growing awareness everywhere that Obama is not only a liar – but is dangerous to us all. Beck is a very important phenomenon – and will become increasingly important……….
Cinday Blackburn on April 11, 2009 at 5:44 PM
all we are saying, is give peace a chance.
The Wall on April 11, 2009 at 5:44 PM
More atheist dribble from DoofPundit.
TTheoLogan on April 11, 2009 at 5:44 PM
Not gonna happen…
doriangrey on April 11, 2009 at 5:46 PM
more religious right nonsense from Theeogoofgan
The Wall on April 11, 2009 at 5:47 PM
See you in June? July? Are you not concerned with what is happening with google? Office in the WH, buying Twitter, cataloging all searches, etc. How about the Emmanuel/press briefings every day? If you own what gets published, isn’t free speech threatened? And what about ACORN supposedly (it happened in Denver) coming to disrupt Tea Parties. Isn’t that a concern? We know who they work for.
gopmom on April 11, 2009 at 5:47 PM
Glen Beck now showing the Thomas Paine video….
doriangrey on April 11, 2009 at 5:48 PM
It was hardly out of control spending and taxation alone.
The problem was taxation without representation; the king’s disolving of representative bodies; preventing the expanding population of the states; obstructing the administration of justice; harassing the people of the colonies; housing large bodies of troops and protecting them with mock trials; cutting off trade with other parts of the world; denying colonists a trial by jury; taking away charters; suspending legislatures; and other reasons.
The revolution was sparked by a “long train of abuses and usurpations” — not just a bad period of spending and higher taxes.
amerpundit on April 11, 2009 at 5:49 PM
That’s it…. Off to the William Ayer’s Memorial Community Re-Education Facility with you…
doriangrey on April 11, 2009 at 5:50 PM
Oh, thanks for explaining the question. I really didn’t understand.
I get your point. In that regard it is like many modern Paul supporters. The government has overstepped, so let’s be irresponsible and no longer provide for the common defense and claim that position is Constitutional.
I don’t advocate for Paine’s choices. I think Adams was the best governmental thinker (structurally I mean) that America has ever seen. But that does not diminish Paine’s very significant contributions, or Patrick Henry’s either – who opposed the Constitution. He is, in some ways, to me like a William Wilberforce character. I can appreciate the effect of some of his life’s work without condoning it all. And to reject their contributions because of something I don’t agree with?
That is, I think, a cheap trick liberals use to drag ideas down to a common denominator of human failing or intellectual inconsistency.
Spirit of 1776 on April 11, 2009 at 5:50 PM
I believe you’re right about Deval Patrick but I just got here in ’04. The governor in MA is a figurehead – all the power is in the legislature and they are all Liberal Dems. We have 16 GOP reps – more than half are liberals themselves.
And look what our voting power has done for the country – Barney friggin’ Frank. Good Lord, you should have thrown us into the Atlantic decades ago. (Of course then I wouldn’t have had to move here.)
gopmom on April 11, 2009 at 5:50 PM
Tea parties are gay.
We already have a democracy so what are we protesting against? The people we voted for? Are you all stupid?
We couldve had Romney, we voted for McCain, Huckabee, Sarah Airhead Palin, Obama, and Hillary Clinton.
We got what we voted for and now we are going to protest against our own politicians that we voted for.
Knock off the embarrassingly asinie comparisons to the original tea party in Boston. That was against a totalarian government, England, which we beat in the Revolutionary War.
Just dont vote like douchebags this time and the problem is solved. Yet, the Palin people will vote for her then have tea parties against the people’s vote?
Stupidity….here you go.
The Wall on April 11, 2009 at 5:50 PM
Heh. Yeah; Frank, Kerry, and Kennedy.
amerpundit on April 11, 2009 at 5:51 PM
Hey, if you promise Bill will be there, I’ll go. I’d like to show him my gun.
gopmom on April 11, 2009 at 5:52 PM
How to clean it, I mean.
gopmom on April 11, 2009 at 5:52 PM
Someone has to fill in the void between Rush and Coulter. Beck fits that space nicely, saying just enough crap to get noticed. No one listens to his radio show so he has to do better with his tv program.
Monkei on April 11, 2009 at 5:52 PM
NO…
doriangrey on April 11, 2009 at 5:53 PM
Without representation = out of control. (There was no control).
Future taxation = The colonies rejected taxes that were implemented and even taxes that hadn’t taken place yet. (This is true of tea parties goers who object to taxes on the next generation for the increasing national debt).
You’re argument, I said, was futile, not because I thought was exhaustive, but because 100% of your statement was included in reasons the colonies became independent.
Spirit of 1776 on April 11, 2009 at 5:53 PM
What actions in Wilberforce’s life do you not necessarily agree with? (Just curious)
aengus on April 11, 2009 at 5:54 PM
What are you, 7? Wanna make a “poopyhead” joke while you’re at it?
No; the people and policies we didn’t vote for. Let’s keep in mind something: Obama pledged a net spending cut, attacked the deficit, and promised no taxes for those making less than $250k.
Jesus Christ could’ve been the Republican nominee and he would’ve lost. McCain didn’t help things along, but he was leading or tied until the financial collapse. Anyone But a Republican won.
Not. We didn’t get what we voted for. I’m betting 99% of the people at these tea parties didn’t vote for Obama. Even those that did voted for a guy that promised no more taxes and decreased spending.
amerpundit on April 11, 2009 at 5:54 PM
Ha. Self-censorship. You’re = Your
Spirit of 1776 on April 11, 2009 at 5:55 PM
I don’t think you can say “gay” unless you’re talking about a real tea party, as in “all had a laughingly gay time”. Or unless you’re 12. Or gay.
But again, it’s not about the tea party, it’s about capturing momentum. Otherwise I wouldn’t be doing it. On the 16th, I start on the committee that is planning for 250,000 on Boston on July 4th.
gopmom on April 11, 2009 at 5:56 PM
I am concerned with everything I am seeing but am focused on elections and message delivery…not throwing the word “revolution” around and marginalizing evertyhing I stand for. Glenn Beck may be criticized for doing this, but it’s not what he’s doing if people actually listen to what he says. He’s trying to get a message out, though he does it in an over the top fashion.
You are freely discussing Revolution and honestly, it freaks me out. That is why I asked, are you actually talking about taking up arms or just romanticizing?
Daemonocracy on April 11, 2009 at 5:56 PM
I think he prevented the natural ebb and flow of market forces. Like prevention of union construction, etc. I got the sense of a man who saw government as the answer and the arbitrator in a lot of arenas. I would be happy to be wrong.
Spirit of 1776 on April 11, 2009 at 6:00 PM
Taxation without representation literally mean that the king was levying taxes while (literally) disolving representative bodies and denying people a voice. The people American citiens elected by popular vote spending more than they should isn’t taxation without representation. We’re being represented by liberal loons who the country elected moronically.
I understand that.
Except that they didn’t launch a revolution because of just taxes and spending. As the DoE says, they petitioned and sought to resolve it peacefully. But they were refused trial by jury, their representative bodies were disolved, their trade was cut off, the soldiers who were abusing them were protected by mock courts, etc. They only resorted to revolution when no peaceful option existed anymore. We’re hardly out of peaceful options here.
If Americans really wanted a conservative, fiscally responsible legislature, they shouldn’t have voted the way they did. They shouldn’t have elected a leader committed to redistributing wealth. The people moronically decided to go this route.
amerpundit on April 11, 2009 at 6:00 PM
Good analogy.
My point is somewhat similar to one made by Boortz.
It’s good to be against what is taking place – this debt is just going to be ruinous, we all know this – but we need to have a positive agenda too.
It’s not enough to, like Paine, be against the monarchy; we have to replace it with something.
Yeah, I admit being against the bailouts and expansive spending is “sort of” an agenda. But I think it has to be more than just a “We’re against what they’re doing” type of protest/rally.
SteveMG on April 11, 2009 at 6:01 PM
Yeah, I think I actually agree with your post. So, we are protesting the lies of Obama which we can partially fix in 18 months and totally fix in 3.5 years?
OK. thats fine.
The Wall on April 11, 2009 at 6:01 PM
Please. The ELECTION of 1800 is often referred to as the “Revolution of 1800″.
Unless, of course, history marginalizes everything you stand for ;)
Spirit of 1776 on April 11, 2009 at 6:02 PM
It freaks me out, too. But would you rather just acquiesce at every turn? What do you want me to say? I’m doing everything right – restarting Republican Town Committee, recruiting candidates, maybe running myself, killing myself to put on this Tea Party – in Boston, for Pete’s sake – because nobody else was doing it. And I’ll keep it up right until the 2010 elections and beyond.
But, there is a line. Obama is slowly and systematically relieving us of our liberty and freedom – money in your pocket is all that stands between you and your dependence on the government – and surrendering our sovereignty to the world. As I said, I don’t know where the line is, but there is always a line.
gopmom on April 11, 2009 at 6:02 PM
What we are talking about is hoping and praying that we can peacefully regain control of our nations future. But we sadly and painfully are all to aware that our very own government might choose to use violence against it’s own citizen rather than return the rightful control of the nation to the citizens.
doriangrey on April 11, 2009 at 6:03 PM
As a strong backer of the Romney campaign during the primaries, from the heart I say:
Romney lost. Get over it.
Also, just because politicians were voted into office doesn’t mean that we have to accept every decision they make thereafter. That is a naive oversimplification of the representative government which we enjoy.
Dead Hand Control on April 11, 2009 at 6:05 PM
There are always peacefully options. The colonists were not out of peaceful options, it simply crossed an invisible line. I am NOT advocating violence. To be painstakingly clear.
So now they peaceable assemble and they exercise their right to petition the government for a redress of grievances. Wigs off to them.
Spirit of 1776 on April 11, 2009 at 6:05 PM
Millions….. See you there!
RalphyBoy on April 11, 2009 at 6:06 PM
If I remember his writing correctly, Burke even predicted the rise of an even deadlier dictator as a result of the irresponsible and unfocused French Revolution. That dicatator was Napoleon who I think Burke got to witness in the last year or two of his life. Sucks being right sometimes.
The main hope I have for these tea parties is that a clear and concise message is delivered. I do want it to be a bunch of people bashing the bailouts and screaming revolution, I want an actual alternative presented. Don’t protest out of mere anger, protest in favor of progression.
Daemonocracy on April 11, 2009 at 6:07 PM
Um, didn’t Obama only get 52 million votes? 48 million did not vote for him and 60 just didn’t show up. This is hardly a mandate for rewriting our Constitution and remaking our country.
Shoot – I’ll go check stats.
gopmom on April 11, 2009 at 6:07 PM
Even here in little old Denton, Texas we have 300 committed to being on the courthouse steps on Tuesday. I will be among them and damn proud too. Enough.
John D on April 11, 2009 at 6:08 PM
Glad to clarify that. You’ve no idea how many people I’ve spoken to on that ‘net that are talking less than peaceful means.
amerpundit on April 11, 2009 at 6:08 PM
I understand that. I would add though, ‘Journey of a thousand miles, …’
The first obstacle to any reform is overcoming apathy.
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Just side note – AP’s right about the uncomfortable nature of the grouping at the end with the ubiquitous “they”. Grouping those things, …well makes the guy sound like a Truther.
Spirit of 1776 on April 11, 2009 at 6:09 PM
Thanks. I don’t know anything about his ideas on economics. He worked with both Whig and Tory governments so I expect he was moderate on many issues.
aengus on April 11, 2009 at 6:09 PM
I dont know dude. I think your heart is in the right place, but we voted for these bozos, so we get what we deserve.
But, if tea parties give us momentum to turn right next election, lets go for it.
The Wall on April 11, 2009 at 6:09 PM
So even though I kinda agree with you, you have admit….having an old angry gay guy dress up like its halloween and talk like a nutcase with his veins popping out of his neck isnt helpful to the cause.
Lose the loser. mkay?
The Wall on April 11, 2009 at 6:11 PM
I was gonna plant fruit trees today, but it rained. I think I’ll do it the 15th.
RalphyBoy on April 11, 2009 at 6:12 PM
And I admire what you are doing and appreciate your passion, but careful with the rheotric you use is what I am saying. This talk of the invisible line, we’re far from that.
Daemonocracy on April 11, 2009 at 6:12 PM
NO…..
doriangrey on April 11, 2009 at 6:12 PM
We are approaching the line quicker than you think.
sannhet on April 11, 2009 at 6:13 PM
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FIFY
RalphyBoy on April 11, 2009 at 6:14 PM
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