Report: Vatican rejects fairy-tale princess as ambassador

posted at 4:25 pm on April 11, 2009 by Allahpundit

Too bad. If there’s one family that’s tried hard to live the teachings of the Church, it’s the Kennedys.

Vatican sources told Il Giornale that their support for abortion disqualified Ms Kennedy and other Roman Catholics President Barack Obama had been seeking to appoint…

The Italian paper said that the Vatican strongly disapproved of Mr Obama’s support for abortion and stem cell research. The impasse over the ambassadorial appointment threatens to cloud his meeting with the Pope during a G8 summit in Itay in July.

True or not? The rumors were credible enough to draw public reproaches this week from prominent American Catholics, but a Vatican spokesman tells Catholic News it’s much ado about nothing.

“No proposals about the new ambassador of the United States to the Holy See have reached the Vatican, and therefore it is not true that they have been rejected. The rumors circulating about this topic are not reliable,” the spokesman, Jesuit Father Federico Lombardi, told Catholic News Service April 9.

The spokesman’s comments echoed off-the-record remarks by informed diplomatic and Vatican sources in Rome, who said the reports appeared to be unfounded…

There have been occasions in the last two years when the Vatican has objected to ambassadorial candidates — from Argentina, in the case of a divorced Catholic with a live-in partner, and from France, where the candidate was an openly gay Catholic in a union with another man.

“For Catholic ambassadors, there is the question of their matrimonial situation. But outside of that, I don’t think there are other criteria,” said one Vatican source.

There’s a lot of wiggle room in that word “proposal.” Could be that Team Barry put out feelers informally to see how Caroline’s nomination would be received in order to avoid the embarrassment of a formal appointment and rejection. The Vatican’s been leaning more on pro-choice Catholic politicians in the last few years, so it’d be hard to look the other way at having one as their official American liaison; on the other hand, publicly humiliating the princess of Camelot would cause them headaches among Catholics who still belong to the Kennedy cult. Better just to say the subject’s never come up, no?

If it’s true, though, that they’re turning away Catholics who disagree with them on abortion, isn’t it also true that the Vatican’s standards of religious orthodoxy in this area are stricter than, er, Saudi Arabia’s? Here’s the list of U.S. ambassadors to the Kingdom; not too many Islamic names among them, which seems to suit the Wahhabis just fine even though (a) the Koran is the country’s official constitution and (b) the practice of religions other than Islam is normally prohibited. Isn’t the “insult” of having an ambassador who thinks Mohammed was a false prophet greater than the insult of having an ambassador who disagrees about the sanctity of life? Exit question: Why is Obama even bothering with Caroline here? Doug Kmiec shilled embarrassingly for him for months last year as being the logical choice for pro-life voters notwithstanding The One’s record on infanticide. How much further does he have to humiliate himself before he gets a little recognition?


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What were they thinking?

Dr. Manhattan on April 11, 2009 at 4:28 PM

Let’s send her to North Korea.

Tim Zank on April 11, 2009 at 4:28 PM

I find it hard to believe that Obama would subject Caroline to this.

jay12 on April 11, 2009 at 4:29 PM

If she’s too stupid and inarticulate to be a senator, perhaps she’s too stupid and inarticulate to be an ambassador. Just a thought.

Disturb the Universe on April 11, 2009 at 4:31 PM

well………..you know………………

oakpack on April 11, 2009 at 4:32 PM

I urged that kings and queens were dangerous. He said, then have cats. He was sure that a royal family of cats would answer every purpose. They would be as useful as any other royal family, they would know as much, they would have the same virtues and the same treacheries, the same disposition to get up shindies with other royal cats, they would be laughably vain and absurd and never know it, they would be wholly inexpensive, finally, they would have as sound a divine right as any other royal house. The worship of royalty being founded in unreason, these graceful and harmless cats would easily become as sacred as any other royalties, and indeed more so, because it would presently be noticed that they hanged nobody, beheaded nobody, imprisoned nobody, inflicted no cruelties or injustices of any sort, and so must be worthy of a deeper love and reverence than the customary human king and queen, and would certainly get it.
- Mark Twain

MB4 on April 11, 2009 at 4:32 PM

Captain Diplomacy strikes again. Good lord. Is there anyone of our allies he hasn’t ticked off yet?

TheQuestion on April 11, 2009 at 4:32 PM

I find it hard to believe that Obama would subject Caroline to this.

jay12 on April 11, 2009 at 4:29 PM

By that you are assuming that he gives a $#!t about anyone other himself.

thomasaur on April 11, 2009 at 4:33 PM

Obama should nominate Flavia Colgan (or, of course, KP).

Spirit of 1776 on April 11, 2009 at 4:34 PM

Ambassadora to Somali might work out well for her and the US.

dragondrop on April 11, 2009 at 4:35 PM

Doug Kmiec shilled embarrassingly for him for months last year as being the logical choice for pro-life voters notwithstanding The One’s record on infanticide. How much further does he have to humiliate himself before he gets a little recognition?

Kmiec’s been blasted full of holes already. Unlike the American electorate, apparently, US Catholic bishops can tell when someone’s actually pro-life.

KingGold on April 11, 2009 at 4:36 PM

the Vatican strongly disapproved of Mr Obama’s support for abortion and stem cell research.

The issue is complex but the wording is not: Embryonic stem cell research. Embryos, embryos, embryos.

As a lapsed Catholic I must say I’m troubled by this.

If we named an American Islamic ambassador to Riyadh who was openly critical of Islamic doctrine and the House of Saud opposed him/her, we’d be not too pleased.

Yes, the analogy is strained but not to the breaking point.

SteveMG on April 11, 2009 at 4:39 PM

It’s about G-damn time someone in the Vatican remembered that they are Catholic!!!!!!!!!!!

Dread Pirate Roberts VI on April 11, 2009 at 4:39 PM

I hear ACORN is hiring……..

Seven Percent Solution on April 11, 2009 at 4:40 PM

Obama is so stupid, he can’t even properly staff a minor ambassador post like this.

Speedwagon82 on April 11, 2009 at 4:40 PM

The problem with who Obama selects to be Ambassador to the Vatican is that it will show how much he values what the Vatican has to offer. As Reagan found out, it’s a lot, even if we never hear about it. A choice which ignores the Vatican’s wishes would send a sign which says Obama intends to freeze the Vatican out and ignore them. He can go ahead and appoint a Caroline or a Kmiec, the Vatican will accept it but the Vatican would change entirely how it deals with the US Government, especially on intelligence matters. This is not true with other countries like Saudi Arabia. The ambassador means little as there are plenty of other things to entice them to help, like trade.

Vatican intelligence depends on the Ambassador’s ability to have a personal relationship with the Curia, that won’t happen with someone who is not at least personally a devout Catholic.

Rocks on April 11, 2009 at 4:41 PM

It’s about G-damn time someone in the Vatican remembered that they are Catholic!!!!!!!!!!!

Dread Pirate Roberts VI on April 11, 2009 at 4:39 PM

The Vatican is also a political playground. You have liberal bishops compared to traditional cardinals, weak e.g.

A Puzzled Mind on April 11, 2009 at 4:43 PM

Irish bootlegging trash. Heh…

BL@KBIRD on April 11, 2009 at 4:43 PM

Exit question: Why is Obama even bothering with Caroline here?

Political expediency.
BO is playing on that Kennedy name. Two things could have happened and both results would be positive for BO. 1. He gets his wish and puts a pro-choice ambassador in,thus fulfilling his payback to Ms.Thang and having an immediate reliable spinnerette to utilize when he does things that are unCatholic. 2. Make the church look like the badguys. There is a whole list of goodies that go with that one,but it pretty much is the MO of the MSM and the administration.

canditaylor68 on April 11, 2009 at 4:44 PM

If we named an American Islamic ambassador to Riyadh who was openly critical of Islamic doctrine and the House of Saud opposed him/her, we’d be not too pleased .Yes, the analogy is strained but not to the breaking point.

No, I withdraw the analogy.

It’s stupid.

Think first, then type.

SteveMG on April 11, 2009 at 4:45 PM

hahahaha

Buh, bye!

artist on April 11, 2009 at 4:45 PM

If you want to be Catholic, you do as the Church proscribes. If you don’t, You are NOT Catholic.

Try getting a job Caroline.

originalpechanga on April 11, 2009 at 4:48 PM

Poor O, Vatican can’t be pressured by Kos & H.Post like they did on Arizona ‘varsity.

Anita on April 11, 2009 at 4:49 PM

Bless her tiny heart. What you say does come back to bit you.
L

letget on April 11, 2009 at 4:49 PM

4/49
S/B bite
L

letget on April 11, 2009 at 4:50 PM

If there’s one family that’s tried hard to live the teachings of the Church, it’s the Kennedys.

I just blew Kool-Aid all over my computer.

Dire Straits on April 11, 2009 at 4:51 PM

If true, good for the Vatican.

Again, if true, Notre Dame, did you see how that it’s done?

BuckeyeSam on April 11, 2009 at 4:52 PM

Barry to be so smart makes some of the dumbest decisions. When the most powerful navy in the history of mankind is being humiliated by four illiterates in a lifeboat and the world is laughing at least he hides and doesn’t come out. This is the first pause in the constant Obamering since the inauguration.

volsense on April 11, 2009 at 4:53 PM

/troll on

Actually, this job would be perfect for sweet Caroline. Once she has put the vatican in it’s place she would have proven herself worthy. She could them move on to Iran and North Korea and fix what Bush couldn’t fix.

/troll off

boomer on April 11, 2009 at 4:55 PM

What is Team Chicago Jesus doing on their appointments? Drawing names out of a hat? Some of these picks defy logic. Is this what we can expect the next four years?..God help us.

Dire Straits on April 11, 2009 at 4:58 PM

Doug Kmiec shilled embarrassingly for him for months last year as being the logical choice for pro-life voters notwithstanding The One’s record on infanticide. How much further does he have to humiliate himself before he gets a little recognition?

Heh

Infidoll on April 11, 2009 at 4:59 PM

It’s not Barry’s fault if he doesn’t understand an “outdated” notion like religion. The Pope, being the religious extremist that he is, should have heard the name Kennedy and immediately groveled in her presence.

volsense on April 11, 2009 at 5:02 PM

Dire Straits on April 11, 2009 at 4:58 PM

I suspect there was some back room dealing during the election that involved the Kennedies. What better way to pay back a dying man than to make sure his family remains involved in the federal government?

boomer on April 11, 2009 at 5:03 PM

I think Obama may invigorate the pro-life movement around the world more than any other US President.

joe_doufu on April 11, 2009 at 5:05 PM

AP, either you need to be clearer with the sarcasm (If there’s one family that’s tried hard to live the teachings of the Church, it’s the Kennedys.) or you need to stop smoking that new stuff. It’s true that the Kennedy clan has aspired to better things than Christopher Dodd and Barney Frank. But they haven’t acted in a way that would approach those aspirations. And the chronic detachment from reality which characterizes the Left and Camelot-on-the-Vinyard is antithetical to the foundation of both reason and faith that undergirds Catholicism.

njcommuter on April 11, 2009 at 5:07 PM

on the other hand, publicly humiliating the princess of Camelot would cause them headaches among Catholics who still belong to the Kennedy cult.

This practicing American Catholic of Irish descent [sorry Allah :) - we love you!] is ready for the long-overdue humiliation of this raging anti-semitic and scandalous fraud of a “family.”
BRING IT ON!

And before anyone asks; except for my aunt and two cousins who are hippies; the rest of us are conservatives (and remember; we are Catholic = big families).

AND NONE OF MY FAMILY VOTED FOR THE JOKE OF JFK IN 1960 {o.k. my granddaddy had to drive his aunt around so that she could NOT vote for ‘Joe’s Boy’; but still the family held strong and had to vote for
Nixon!?!
~ for goodness sake. :) ]

Branch Rickey on April 11, 2009 at 5:08 PM

If we named an American Islamic ambassador to Riyadh who was openly critical of Islamic doctrine and the House of Saud opposed him/her, we’d be not too pleased.

Yes, the analogy is strained but not to the breaking point.

SteveMG on April 11, 2009 at 4:39 PM

How many Jewish Ambassadors has the US appointed to Muslim countries?

katiejane on April 11, 2009 at 5:10 PM

Irish bootlegging trash. Heh…

BL@KBIRD on April 11, 2009 at 4:43 PM

I vote WINNER! :) :) :)

Branch Rickey on April 11, 2009 at 5:11 PM

No, I withdraw the analogy.

It’s stupid.

Think first, then type. :)

SteveMG on April 11, 2009 at 4:45 PM

Do see your point up to a point (no confusion intended) but am glad you withdrew because it is “just a bit outside” [Ueker in Major League] ~ but I do understand somewhat of that argument. :)

PAX Steve!

Branch Rickey on April 11, 2009 at 5:15 PM

How about she gets appointed to the board of M.A.D.D.

Pam on April 11, 2009 at 5:17 PM

If you want to be Catholic, you do as the Church proscribes. If you don’t, You are NOT Catholic.

Try getting a job Caroline.

Well actually the deal with the Catholic Church is that it’s like the Mafia, once you’re in you never get out. Once baptized as far as the church is concerned you’re a Catholic for the rest of eternity.(And yes, I mean literally forever.) So Caroline might be a bad Catholic but she is a Catholic and all the Church can do is withhold church sacraments.

Dave_d on April 11, 2009 at 5:31 PM

Marilyn Monroe was unavailable for comment, ya know

Wade on April 11, 2009 at 5:38 PM

So the Vatican is not on their knees worshiping the Obammesiah. Don’t they know he is the second coming?

docdave on April 11, 2009 at 5:50 PM

isn’t it also true that the Vatican’s standards of religious orthodoxy in this area are stricter than, er, Saudi Arabia’s?

The Holy See is not analogous to a nation, even one that it is religiously important like Saudi Arabia. The Vatican has nominally sovereign land, but the Holy See is a represantitive of faith not people.

I would suggest that if Obama is interested in appointing someone who is pro-choice that it not be a Catholic. To use AP’s analogy I quoted above, appointing a pro-choice Catholic would be akin to appointing an Muslim ambassador to Saudi Arabia who questions the legitimacy of the Koran. The Saudi’s would go nuts. But you can appoint, obviously, non-Muslims who don’t believe in the Koran.

Nessuno on April 11, 2009 at 5:51 PM

Anytime I see someone that the VATICAN rejects, no matter which party or political side they take, they become a personal favorite of mine.

Monkei on April 11, 2009 at 5:55 PM

Anytime I see someone that the VATICAN rejects, no matter which party or political side they take, they become a personal favorite of mine.

Monkei on April 11, 2009 at 5:55 PM

I’m glad she’s a favorite of yours… Not even NY wanted her useless a$$

Upstater85 on April 11, 2009 at 6:20 PM

According to news reports, Caroline is not the first candidate floated by Obama to be rejected by the Vatican:

The Vatican has quietly rejected at least three of President Obama’s candidates to serve as U.S. ambassador to the Holy See because they support abortion, and the White House might be running out of time to find an acceptable envoy before Mr. Obama travels to Rome in July, when he hopes to meet Pope Benedict XVI.

Religious_Zealot on April 11, 2009 at 6:20 PM

Dave_d on April 11, 2009 at 5:31 PM

Oh please that is just stupid, you left out the concept of free will something the Catholic Church is quite aware of.

Speaking as a lapsed Catholic, please do some homework before you spout off and look like a fool.

Just Saying

F15Mech on April 11, 2009 at 6:21 PM

The Chicago Thug is rebuked. Ha!

Monkei on April 11, 2009 at 5:55 PM

She’s all yours.

Zorro on April 11, 2009 at 6:22 PM

In dealing with the Vatican, Team Barry is going to find out that ‘all things are not relative’. What will be hard for Team Barry to accept is the concept that some beliefs really are non-negotiable in certain circles. Given all the past Ooops! re: nominations that have gone south, they probably figured they’d float Carolyn’s name on the side to see if there would be any objections. Beats another sharp public stick in the eye. Last thing they want to hear is “Oh no, not again!”. After all, they’ve already become known as “the gang that can’t shoot straight’.

GarandFan on April 11, 2009 at 6:30 PM

You guys may want to do some research. The Saudi Royal Royal family puts extraordiary restrictions on who the Us can appoint as Ambassador to the kingdom.

Mike OMalley on April 11, 2009 at 6:32 PM

The Saudi Royal Royal family puts extraordiary restrictions on who the Us can appoint as Ambassador to the kingdom.

Mike OMalley on April 11, 2009 at 6:32 PM

I’m sure Obama has some college buddies somewhere…

Upstater85 on April 11, 2009 at 6:35 PM

Floating one pro-abortion ambassador candidate might have just been a mistake.

Floating TWO pro-abortion ambassador candidates might have simply been coincidence.

But floating THREE pro-abortion ambassador candidates is a pattern.

Obama’s playing chicken with the pope and doesn’t realize that he (Obama) can’t win.

Interesting, though, that Obama grovels at the feet of Muslims but flips the middle finger to the Catholic church.

Interesting.

Religious_Zealot on April 11, 2009 at 6:36 PM

Interesting, though, that Obama grovels at the feet of Muslims but flips the middle finger to the Catholic church.

Interesting.

Religious_Zealot on April 11, 2009 at 6:36 PM

Maybe he couldn’t quite tie up the Catholic vote no matter whom he fellated. I guess we’ll just have to send Queen Nan as ambassador…

Upstater85 on April 11, 2009 at 6:40 PM

To even think about sending a beast like Caroline Kennedy to be the ambassador to Rome is vulgar and beyond stupid. She is a rabid abortionist. What kind of arrogance would go towards selecting her to represent the United States in Rome?

How about select John Wayne Gacy as a caregiver at a Day Care Center?

Rode Werk on April 11, 2009 at 6:40 PM

Good thing Hitler is dead, otherwise he’d have ended up in a high cabinet post under sock puppet. Since Hitler was a “christian” I guess this post would have been perfect for him, eh?

Spiritk9 on April 11, 2009 at 6:44 PM

They’ll just have to give in and send a Pro-Life Democrat. They should send . . . .umm. . . oh, how bout! . . umm. . . Maybe a pro life green party member.

- The Cat

P.S. ack, with the non merging headlines and posts.

MirCat on April 11, 2009 at 6:49 PM

Why is Obama even bothering with Caroline here?

How can The Messiah supplant the original American royal family unless he utterly destroys them first? The more the Kennedy’s are shown to be the vacuous liberal snobs that they are, the more certain types of vacuous Americans will look for a new royal family to replace them. And ObaMcCarthy and his whitey hating scumbag family will be conveniently available for the position.

csdeven on April 11, 2009 at 6:53 PM

You know, I have nothing against the poor princess really, except that she has no more qualifications for becoming an ambassador to anything than she did for becoming a senator. Let’s see, we need an ambassador to the Vatican…who can it be…I KNOW, Caroline Kennedy! What? It’s just laughable is all.

scalleywag on April 11, 2009 at 7:00 PM

All this shows is just how tone-deaf Obama really is.
And they were supposed to be the pros. Ha!

But what can you expect from a President who hasn’t picked a church yet. Or announced a chaplain.

Iblis on April 11, 2009 at 7:04 PM

I urged that kings and queens were dangerous. He said, then have cats. He was sure that a royal family of cats would answer every purpose. They would be as useful as any other royal family, they would know as much, they would have the same virtues and the same treacheries, the same disposition to get up shindies with other royal cats, they would be laughably vain and absurd and never know it, they would be wholly inexpensive, finally, they would have as sound a divine right as any other royal house. The worship of royalty being founded in unreason, these graceful and harmless cats would easily become as sacred as any other royalties, and indeed more so, because it would presently be noticed that they hanged nobody, beheaded nobody, imprisoned nobody, inflicted no cruelties or injustices of any sort, and so must be worthy of a deeper love and reverence than the customary human king and queen, and would certainly get it.
- Mark Twain

Cats also have the virtue of only desiring one thing: To be fed.

wildcat84 on April 11, 2009 at 7:09 PM

I swear I can’t decide if Barack Obama is stupid or if he is doing all of this on purpose.

For example–perhaps this administration has no real intention of filling this diplomatic post, hence their floating names they know will get kicked back.

Think about it. Once FOCA is passed and Catholic hospitals start shutting down, what point will there be in having an ambassador to the Vatican? Barry’s going to want to take over those hospitals and wouldn’t it be just a bit easier if for the administration if that post remained empty?

Niere on April 11, 2009 at 7:10 PM

1 word: GOOD.

Up yours, elite.

HotAirJosef on April 11, 2009 at 7:15 PM

To paraphrase Blago, an ambassadorship is a f****** valuable thing.

Barry might not be outright selling the post, but ambassadorships, especially the plum ones in Europe, are given out in response to strong support in the campaign. But all of his strong supporters probably share his radical lefty views.

Wethal on April 11, 2009 at 7:16 PM

But what can you expect from a President who hasn’t picked a church yet. Or announced a chaplain.

Iblis on April 11, 2009 at 7:04 PM

“Chaplain?” A bit confused here. Most presidents do have spiritual leaders they consult, but are you referring to a formal “White House Chaplain” position I’ve never heard of?

Just curious.

cs89 on April 11, 2009 at 7:18 PM

Obama is just mad that Jesus Hussein Christ wasn’t aborted; were that the case, his coronation as Savior to the Universe would have been much less problematic. Now he’s going to have to actually work at it.

hillbillyjim on April 11, 2009 at 7:21 PM

I swear I can’t decide if Barack Obama is stupid or if he is doing all of this on purpose.
Niere on April 11, 2009 at 7:10 PM

The former. Please don’t forget his DVD gift pack to Brown and the I-Pod to the Queen. The bow!

He flatly does not understand the Vatican and instead of trying to understand them cluelessly brushes them off.

He doesn’t understand the Catholic Church stands for something, a real church where hate is not preached, unlike his church of 20 years.

For the rest of our Nation’s history people will ask how this person ever came to be elected POTUS.

FireBlogger on April 11, 2009 at 7:23 PM

Sweeeeeet Caroline! This song will never ever end.

Mr. Joe on April 11, 2009 at 7:34 PM

He doesn’t understand the Catholic Church stands for something, a real church where hate is not preached, unlike his church of 20 years.

For the rest of our Nation’s history people will ask how this person ever came to be elected POTUS.

FireBlogger on April 11, 2009 at 7:23 PM

As Geraghty has noted, “All of Barack Obama’s statements come with expiration dates. All of them.” Barry has thrown so many people under the bus, he needs a fleet of busses.

Barry doesn’t understand people who stand on principle, sometimes at risk to freedom or life. His only principle is to save his own a$$. Why have Ten Commandments when he can make do with one?

Wethal on April 11, 2009 at 7:41 PM

As Geraghty has noted, “All of Barack Obama’s statements come with expiration dates. All of them.”

I’m beginning to think that even his expiration dates have expiration dates!

Religious_Zealot on April 11, 2009 at 7:46 PM

No one has confused the public more than this president has. People have no clue what he is doing. WHy? Because he doesn’t either. This is like appointing an alcoholic who loves dogs and eats ham sandwiches everyday to be the Islamic ambassador.

scalleywag on April 11, 2009 at 7:49 PM

Maybe ZERO will go ambassador less … How will ZERO’s meeting with the Pope go? Oh about like it did with Peloser.

tarpon on April 11, 2009 at 7:55 PM

The Vatican needs to put the hammer on Notre Dame to squash the Obama speech (spectacle).

As a practicing Catholic, it makes me sick to my stomach that a University steeped in Catholic tradition would have even considered it. I may argue and disagree with my Church, but to allow a man who believes in late-term abortion is Satan at work.

shomegirl on April 11, 2009 at 7:58 PM

Sorry…..believes in late-term abortion speak to it’s graduating students is Satan at work.

shomegirl on April 11, 2009 at 7:58 PM

I…..uhh….I don’t…ummmh….I don’t…uh..find…ya know…..umhhh…I don’t think any of this…..uhhh…is like…ya know…really like….uh….humor….umh…gigly….uh…ya know….umh….uh….like…you know….uhhhhh….funny! That’s the word! FUNNY!!!

I think it’s freaking hilarious!!!!

Vntnrse on April 11, 2009 at 7:59 PM

I think it’s freaking hilarious!!!!

Vntnrse on April 11, 2009 at 7:59 PM

If only she’d had a teleprompter…

Wethal on April 11, 2009 at 8:09 PM

I wonder what gifts President Pantywaste will bring the Pope; Chia Obama? 30-day supply of Viagra? TOTUS hat? This joke (his presidency) just writes itself. If he thinks he can shmooze a religion that is deeply rooted in 2000+ years of culture by name-dropping (Kennedy), we’re in for a rough 4 years.

Ital79 on April 11, 2009 at 8:10 PM

Ambassadora to Somali might work out well for her and the US.

dragondrop on April 11, 2009 at 4:35 PM

Ambassadora to the Pirates of Somalia would be even better.
They could use her for hostage negotiations ))))))

Mister Ghost on April 11, 2009 at 8:15 PM

Let’s send her to North Korea.

Only on the condition that she is accompanied by every liberal in DC.

Oh, and that we don’t have to allow ANY of them to come back. They’d look so nice as flunkies for Kim Flung Dung.

oldleprechaun on April 11, 2009 at 8:28 PM

I think it would be the height of arrogance and insult if he were to nominate a pro-choice ambassador to the Vatican (and I’m not Catholic, but I am pro-life).

CP on April 11, 2009 at 8:28 PM

When Royalty and the Church collide, heads roll..check history.. the question is whose??????

PaCadle on April 11, 2009 at 8:40 PM

Irish bootlegging trash. Heh…

BL@KBIRD on April 11, 2009 at 4:43 PM

Excuse you, Blakturd.

The only trash I see on this thread is coming from you.

IrishTigerlily

tigerlily on April 11, 2009 at 9:05 PM

Oh please that is just stupid, you left out the concept of free will something the Catholic Church is quite aware of.

Speaking as a lapsed Catholic, please do some homework before you spout off and look like a fool.

Quoting from this

Catholic Encyclopedia

The excommunicated person, it is true, does not cease to be a Christian, since his baptism can never be effaced; he can, however, be considered as an exile from Christian society and as non-existent, for a time at least, in the sight of ecclesiastical authority.

and this

Wiki

According to Catholic belief, if one is baptised as a Catholic he or she remains a Catholic forever.

So according to that baptism can’t be erased. (IE,in the Church’s eyes lapsed Catholics are still Catholics. Yes, I realize the second one is Wikipedia)

Dave_d on April 11, 2009 at 9:08 PM

Like you know the princess is totally qualified to go to Rome.She could shop and then get Teddy a dispensation for swimming at night.Plus I mean Dude she is like royal or something so the one thinks like he needs to send somebody sorta equal to like talk to the Pope.You know one Catholic to another ,wonder is she can like speak Latin and do Roman numerals?

Col.John Wm. Reed on April 11, 2009 at 9:18 PM

Doug Kmiec shilled embarrassingly for him for months last year as being the logical choice for pro-life voters notwithstanding The One’s record on infanticide. How much further does he have to humiliate himself before he gets a little recognition?

My son is a student at Pepperdine so we receive a quarterly magazine about Pepperdine faculty, students and alumni. The most recent one we received had an excerpt from Doug Kmiec’s book about why he supported Obama. The excerpt described the time that the priest refused him communion after blasting him in the homily. Kmiec did not say whether the priest mentioned him by name, only that it was about him.

So, he speaks of how humiliated he was when he was refused, saying that he nearly pleaded with the priest, who placed his hand over the ciborium and shook his head. Mr. Kmiec said, “Father, you are making a big mistake,” whereby the priest responded, “No, you have made a big mistake.”

After he was refused communion, he sat back in the pew and thought to himself that all of the good deeds he had done, all of the good works for the poor and for justice and still he had been denied the Body of Christ. For his whole life, he had attended church, served as an altar boy, rosaries, devotionals, and raised his children and the priest ignored all of that.

I was appalled reading it.

Jvette on April 11, 2009 at 9:25 PM

After he was refused communion, he sat back in the pew and thought to himself that all of the good deeds he had done, all of the good works for the poor and for justice and still he had been denied the Body of Christ. For his whole life, he had attended church, served as an altar boy, rosaries, devotionals, and raised his children and the priest ignored all of that.

I was appalled reading it.

Jvette on April 11, 2009 at 9:25 PM

Ephesians 2:8-9: For it is by grace you have been saved, through faith — and this not from yourselves, it is the gift of God – not by works, so that no one can boast.

That said, the priest who denied him communion was rebuked and had to issue a formal apology.

But, before we make Kmiec some kind of martyr, here is a quote from Wikipedia about Kmiec support of Obama:

Most of all, Kmiec said he endorsed Obama because he “believed him to be a person of integrity, intelligence, and genuine good will. I take him at his word that he wants to move the nation beyond its religious and racial divides and that he wants to return the United States to that company of nations committed to human rights.

(emphasis mine)

So Mr. Kmiec, how’s that “taking him at his word” working out?

Oh, and how do you square Obama’s radical pro-abortion stance with returning the United States “to that company of nations committed to human rights.”?

I guess fetus’ don’t have rights, but terrorists do?

Religious_Zealot on April 11, 2009 at 10:08 PM

Dire Straits on April 11, 2009 at 4:58 PM

Team Chicago Jesus

FTW!!!

roscopico on April 11, 2009 at 11:22 PM

Who the fcuk is Kennedy? Why is she considered for an ambassador position?

Also, we have 300 millions people and Obama couldn’t find anybody who had sex with a little boy?

radiofreevillage on April 11, 2009 at 11:25 PM

I’d like to submit the name of Nancy Pelosi, a prominent Roman Catholic from the San Francisco Bay area, who will be looking for employment sometime in 2010. She has already met Pope Benedict XVI, and has stated that she is quite fluent in Catholic Church Doctrine many times. I think she’d make a far more experienced and competent selection as Ambassador to the Holy See than this Kennedy person. /s

coldwarrior on April 11, 2009 at 11:42 PM

She could come in handy for exorcisms. That face

Maquis on April 11, 2009 at 11:44 PM

The Gospel according to Pelosi.

Thou shalt allow the Kennedy to be the emissary of the One.

Kini on April 12, 2009 at 12:07 AM

British Papers reporting that Obama’s brother is linked to a sex attack on a 13 year old girl. They are not pulling any punches describing Obama’s “family”. I LOVE the Cows line. Way classy Daddy!

Obama’s father had four wives, and fathered eight children. His first wife Mum Kezia was only 15 when he purchased her from her family for 14 cows. With this wife he fathered Abongo, Auma, Bernard, and Abo who goes by Samson.

Barack Obama Sr. then married Ann Dunham while still married to his first wife. Ann was the daughter of two hard-core Marxists and believed she was striking a blow against the establishment by having sex with non-white men. She gave birth to Barack. Obama Sr. then abandoned her and she filed for divorce. Immediately after the divorce she married an Indonesian man. Obama Sr. then married a second white leftist, Ruth Nidesand. She returned to Nairobi with Obama Sr. She had two kids with him, David and Mark, before leaving him and marrying another African man.

Wow.

GunRunner on April 12, 2009 at 1:01 AM

GunRunner on April 12, 2009 at 1:01 AM

Read that earlier this evening…

And my sister and her husband are still gushing over how wonderful Obama is and how his family is something to be emulated. Guess they just mean Barack, Michelle and the two little girls…I hope.

coldwarrior on April 12, 2009 at 1:04 AM

The Church teaches that those souls most in danger of hell are Catholics who knowingly reject the Faith, so it would be best to appoint either a faithful Catholic or a non-Catholic. To appoint a professed Catholic who publicly defies Church teaching on one of the five so-called “non-negotiables” would be offensive. Appointing a non-Catholic would not be so offensive.

Just my take.

gocatholic on April 12, 2009 at 2:32 AM

It’s well known in history that Joseph Kennedy made his fortune as a bootlegger and whiskey runner.

Vntnrse on April 12, 2009 at 2:32 AM

Anytime I see someone that the VATICAN rejects, no matter which party or political side they take, they become a personal favorite of mine.

Monkei on April 11, 2009 at 5:55 PM

It’s good to know that the Vatican has importance in your life.

unclesmrgol on April 12, 2009 at 3:08 AM

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