Newest source of left’s pretend fear/outrage: Tea parties
posted at 5:03 pm on April 10, 2009 by Allahpundit
Link via Ace, who seems willing to believe the fear is genuine. Maybe that’s true for the dimmer bulbs among them but for most I’m sure this is standard calculated faux-horror designed to frame the event as suspect, illegitimate, and otherwise unsuitable for mainstream political consumption. Kind of like how Olbermann is forever referring to the “far right” or the “fringe right.” For people who claim to object so profoundly to the politics of fear, they sure are good at it.
Anyway, Legal Insurrection previews the tedious, inevitable nutroots reaction to next week’s rallies:
The Huffington Post is organizing “citizen journalists” to attend the protests, allegedly to “report.” Which means that they will try to find someone in a crowd who says something stupid, will post it on the internet, and build an argument around it trying to demonize the movement. And left-wing bloggers will react in unison like dogs responding to a whistle, about the “dangerous” and “violent” and “racist” tea parties. This tactic is as old as time; or at least as old as the internet.
Follow the link to Ace up top for the latest on the scourge of insidious “anti-Obama activities” that are destroying our country from within. Meanwhile, here’s a video — swiped from a different post of Ace’s — by Andrew Klavan, the guy responsible for the Limbaugh challenge. I don’t know what made me think of adding it to a post about fake liberal outrage.
Update: The boss was all over this days ago:
It’s already happened once before — at the Denver anti-porkulus rally last month, when the Media Matters/Daily Kos crowd shifted media attention away from the policy message by manufacturing fake outrage about some stunt-puller who showed up with a sign comparing Obama to Hitler that I didn’t see and asked for a picture. The local newspaper, the Rocky Mountain News, took the bait…
As Beckel signaled, leftists are going to use fear-mongering to paint mainstream taxpayers who believe in the Second Amendment, the Constitution, limited government, low taxes, and fiscal responsibility as fringe wackos. They have already exploited the Binghamton and Pittsburgh shooting sprees for political gain. They have no shame. Be prepared. Confront them with their own rank hypocrisy and unhingedness. Don’t get distracted. And don’t let your local media get away with lazily recycling their smears.
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I totally agree with you, but how can you argue with someone who uses the “If it’s bad it’s Bush’s fault unless Obama does it just like Bush, then stop complaining” argument?
Upstater85 on April 10, 2009 at 7:15 PM
Fantastic video from PJTV!
To the liberals who want us to “shut up” please allow me to respond with “go fly a kite” or as my French mother likes to say: “Va te faire cuire un oeuf.”
Michelle Dubois on April 10, 2009 at 7:17 PM
Actually, I hope we scare the devil out of the wussie left. They have scared my for years with scant concern.
JIMV on April 10, 2009 at 7:18 PM
Keep telling yourself this. Who cares if it is news? What matters is that 10′s of thousands of people are going to connect. And then comes the next wave of tea parties.
pearson on April 10, 2009 at 7:19 PM
This wins the thread!
The horror! We aren’t that bad…
DaveS on April 10, 2009 at 7:20 PM
The point that seems to be missed is that this is non-partisan. People who never in their lives would have thought that they’d hold a sign up in the middle of a street somewhere are mobilizing.
This is the silent majority that is speaking. We are not Democrats, Republicans, Independents, Libertarians, et al.
We are Americans.
And that my friends, is what scares the living daylights out of the leftists.
They won’t defeat Americans. Not Ever.
Key West Reader on April 10, 2009 at 7:20 PM
hahahaha!
OMG!
relly, u guyz shud link the UD before you do this stupid shit.
strangelet on April 10, 2009 at 7:22 PM
OK, I agree with you, but I was making specific reference to Strangelet…
Upstater85 on April 10, 2009 at 7:22 PM
Yeah, I agree that it’s pretend fear and outrage, but I thought this kind of protesting was embarrassing when it was just d-bag hippies and idiot trust fund college kids protesting 47 different things at once.
Why would Republicans want to duplicate that?
Anyway, just me. Democrats had a lock on the “idiot protester” contingent, but it looks like that’s not the case anymore. Oh well.
Proud Rino on April 10, 2009 at 7:22 PM
The question that I worry about is, “How far are they willing to go?” This really is how it starts.
davo on April 10, 2009 at 7:22 PM
Aww heres some Obama supporters since you are so bored with anti Obama complaints. A few more.and another…. Im so glad they are pleased with Obama spending the taxpayer money on them while they pay nothing. Did you know Tarp funds were sent to overseas banks? Have you ever heard of UNFPA? Forced sterilization and forced abortion? Did you know that Hillary Clinton has chosen to ignore women’s rights violations in other countries in order to further Obama’s agenda? How much is all that bailout money worth to you?
canditaylor68 on April 10, 2009 at 7:23 PM
Alright. Were the original tea party ‘protestors’ idiots? At the core of this argument, the ‘new’ tea parties are fighting the same thing. Taxation without Representation. Do you feel that you have been represented by our government officials, rino?
HornetSting on April 10, 2009 at 7:26 PM
You got the Schlage on idiocy.
CWforFreedom on April 10, 2009 at 7:26 PM
Rino is too busy being the idiot to think straight…don’t bother
CWforFreedom on April 10, 2009 at 7:27 PM
Key West Reader on April 10, 2009 at 7:20 PM
umm…sorry, its partisan.
More and more like the Mad Hatter you are Treach..
strangelet on April 10, 2009 at 7:29 PM
First of all, they dressed up as Native Americans while they broke the law, so, yes, they were idiots.
Second, you are being represented. We had elections in November, and the party that won is implementing their policies. That’s how elections work.
Proud Rino on April 10, 2009 at 7:32 PM
We’re having our Tea Party at noon by the river as most of us have real jobs. The river so if any stinky liberals show up we can be sure they leave cleaner or at least wetter than they came.
Will have my camcorder and bumper stickers.
“HONK if I am paying your mortgage!”
Have had 1 honk tons of waves!
Let the washing begin!
dhunter on April 10, 2009 at 7:34 PM
Who cares, bow down to your queen, and I don’t believe lying to get elected and then turning our country into a socialist third world craphole is representation.
HornetSting on April 10, 2009 at 7:34 PM
Let’s see, the Sons of Liberty were idiots. Well now, since one of the earliest acts of dissent led to a wider war of revolution and the establishement of these here United States, that is just the kind of idiocy we need.
The kind of idiocy that allows people to freely post their opinons on the internets, say.
John D on April 10, 2009 at 7:35 PM
Are you eating lunch while you do it? Because that sounds more like a picnic than a protest. Sounds like a good time, honestly. Hope the weather’s nice.
Proud Rino on April 10, 2009 at 7:35 PM
You are about to witness the silent majority turn into the speaking majority. We were put in a box a long time ago. Now it’s time to put things right. We have to lead by example and state what we believe to be right. When we stand together and tell the leadership of the country we won’t stand for anymore crap, it’s time for them to get their act together, they can either acquiesce or be sent home.
Speak up, Speak out, Be respectful, Be honest. Let’s put this country back together.
ammon_of_cs on April 10, 2009 at 7:38 PM
HornetSting on April 10, 2009 at 7:34 PM
Hornet, let them mock us. Let them tell you how stupid it all is. Let them twist the logic that TOTUS was the Anti-Bush BEFORE the election, and now that he is like the evil ChimpyBushitler, it is cool bro.
Let the main d bag tell you how your little protest is just a sad little picnic. Being a critic requires nothing. Remember that.
John D on April 10, 2009 at 7:40 PM
The group “Sons of Liberty” still operates today its called ,The Improved Order of Red Men. why not let them know how you feel about thier organization’s past behaviors– acting like “idiots”. For you to even say that belies your ignorance and your true identity and you say they acted like idiots…
canditaylor68 on April 10, 2009 at 7:42 PM
Fine. But we have a saying where I come from.
Lead.
Follow.
Or get the hell out of the way.
hawkdriver on April 10, 2009 at 7:43 PM
“Winning” an election is just that…winning an election.
It is not license to ignore the Rule of Law, to hinder private property rights, to force the populace to fall in lockstep behind the newly-anointed leader. The “mandate” Obama received was pretty slim. Certainly not an overwhelming win.
But that is beside the point, really.
The Right of citizens to assemble peacefully, and demand redress from their government is a Constitutional Right.
That alone makes me more and more in favor of these so-called tea parties; the assembling of disgruntled citizens protesting the hijacking of our government and our prosperity and that of our progeny, and our way of life.
Without this most basic checks and balances system, any Administration for any reason could well indeed shove aside the Constitution and the Rule of Law. If protest was the highest form of patriotism for the past eight years, then why is it not viewed as patriotic to protest today?
What changed?
Oh yeah, The Messiah won the Election. Guess that makes the bankrupting of Amnerica perfectly OK then.
coldwarrior on April 10, 2009 at 7:43 PM
Well, I say we all should keep a close eye out for those plotting to spoil the peaceful tea party demonstrations, and if they try to ruin the peaceful party, then let them pick themselves up off the ground. Personally, I’ve had it up to my ears with these ACORN-UNION-COMMUNITY ORGANIZING thugs.
Keemo on April 10, 2009 at 7:45 PM
Nope, that’s why we have checks and balances.
Yes it is. You have the right to do this and no one is denying you that right. I’m not saying you can’t do it, I’m saying you shouldn’t do it, because you’re wasting your time and you’re going to end up hurting your cause. Look how quickly McCain distanced himself from the far right wing of the party.
1. We still have checks and balances.
2. Protest is not the highest form of patriotism and it never was; I always thought the highest form of patriotism was serving your country. That’s just me, I guess. You’re exercising a right, which is fine, but it’s no more or less patriotic to protest today than it was at any other time.
Proud Rino on April 10, 2009 at 7:49 PM
For you Vegas people we have our tea party at Sunset and Eastern noon to 8ish on the 15th. I’ll be taking the day off work to be there. I’d like to think that all non-troll HA posters will be carrying signs and making it happen on tea party day.
The lefties just hate political debate.
Mojave Mark on April 10, 2009 at 7:49 PM
If you’re over 12 years old, then you have faced cricism, dissapointment, and been the brunt of the joke. That is just being alive. There is nothing to fear by assembling with like minded Americans. As, coldwarrior so aptly stated above. It is, in fact, a RIGHT of every American to do that.
The fact that the left doesn’t want or like this particular protest is of zero concern when it comes up against your birthright as an American. Let them suck a hot one.
John D on April 10, 2009 at 7:49 PM
Okfine Treach.
Tell where you teapartiers want to cut and i might attend.
Give meh specifics lol.
strangelet on April 10, 2009 at 7:50 PM
But ‘member my dance card is filled for Allahpundit.
I only dig smart guys.
strangelet on April 10, 2009 at 7:51 PM
Mojave Mark on April 10, 2009 at 7:49 PM
Rock on Mark!!!
Keemo on April 10, 2009 at 7:52 PM
To compensate for your slightly lower IQ?
Upstater85 on April 10, 2009 at 7:52 PM
To compensate for your slightly lower IQ?
Upstater85 on April 10, 2009 at 7:52 PM
Slightly?
John D on April 10, 2009 at 7:54 PM
Obama opposed the prescription drug program?
He has the votes, scale it back.
And I have real doubts that the prescription drug program by itself will cost $32 trillion.
All I hear is that the “adults” are running things and the Republicans and conservatives have to be quiet and let the party that won run things.
So, if you’re running things stop the complaints.
SteveMG on April 10, 2009 at 7:54 PM
More like 5 points… at least according to Stranglet’s hero Richard Lynn…
Upstater85 on April 10, 2009 at 7:56 PM
I just hope that AP isn’t from the Caribbean… might not have the IQ Strangelet was hoping for /sarc…
Upstater85 on April 10, 2009 at 7:57 PM
So, if you’re running things stop the complaints.
SteveMG on April 10, 2009 at 7:54 PM
Well said. Like I asked my liberal sister, if you voted for TOTUS because he is the Un-Bush why are you so happy when TOTUS is the ultra BUSH? More spending, same war, same wire tapping, etc.
John D on April 10, 2009 at 7:58 PM
Wow…Ace changed my comment.
Ace added the italicized part.
Sinking pretty low, huh?
You can tell it isn’t me…..I never call you guyz “rethuglicans”…..you’re Juggalos.
strangelet on April 10, 2009 at 7:58 PM
link
strangelet on April 10, 2009 at 7:59 PM
We still have checks and balances? Honestly?
Seems Congress under Pelosi and Reid have made sure that such checks and balances are not the stuff of Congressional debate and dialogue of late.
Seems, as well, that the present Administration has no concern at all for anything or anybody who is not slavishly following whatever new policy Obama enunciates each day.
The voices of the Left for the past eight years repeated the mantra about protest being the highest form of patriotism. Now, it appears, from their reaction to these tea parties, that patriotism is now viewed as falling in lock-step behind Obama.
Not me. I served my Nation. Most of my adult life, as a matter of fact. If I attend one of these gatherings, all the better. But the loud and growing louder voices on the Left will stop at nothing to make sure that these tea parties are seen as an assemblage of idiots…after all, these protests won’t change anything…right? So, as has been mentioned by ohter posters, Keemo being the most recent, the Left will initiate the use of thugs to break up these rallies, to try to cause violence, to try to make sure the MSM reports that these tea parties are nothing but ultra-right wing zealots intent on bringing the country down…and based upon the past record of such groups as ACVORN, the SREIU, and other Obamatrons, we should expact exactly this sort of thing from the Left.
After all, when logic and dispassionate debate fail…bring in the thugs to get their way. The left has been a master of this sort of thing for decades. Why should we expect anything different today?
But, small protests have changed forever the fortunes and longevity of governments, here in the United States, and also across the world in our history. All one needs is a hook…something that strikes at the heartstrings of the average American who has lived by the rules, raised their kids by the rules, and put their faith an credit on a fair exercise of governmental power in return for their tax money, their service to the Nation, and just being good, legal, honest, and voting Americans. One spark…simple as that.
So, to use a phrase from the 1960′s…”if you are not part of the solution, then you are part of the problem.”
Perfectly appropriate to use today.
coldwarrior on April 10, 2009 at 8:00 PM
And I bet the answer you got was “uh, well, eh… er…” It’s called Obamblish and it’s speakers are called Obamlishits
Upstater85 on April 10, 2009 at 8:01 PM
I thought you guys were against controlling dissent and controlling free speech on the intertubes.
Wow, rewriting comments?
Astonishing.
strangelet on April 10, 2009 at 8:01 PM
Somehow I doubt that in 2000 you were saying that.
CWforFreedom on April 10, 2009 at 8:02 PM
Are you eating lunch while you do it? Because that sounds more like a picnic than a protest. Sounds like a good time, honestly. Hope the weather’s nice.
Proud Rino on April 10, 2009 at 7:35 PM
No, I’ll be taking the day off, paid. I’ll exercise my right to protest(for the first time), I’ll leave the protest, then be on a hot blonde by 3.
M-14 2go on April 10, 2009 at 8:03 PM
Polling the electorate, so to speak, I assume? :-)
coldwarrior on April 10, 2009 at 8:04 PM
I thought you guys were against controlling dissent and controlling free speech on the intertubes.
Wow, rewriting comments?
Astonishing.
strangelet on April 10, 2009 at 8:01 PM
And DESPITE the control, here your stupid ass is commenting on this thread. You better go look through your peep hole to ensure that the evil conservative good squad isn’t about to crash down your door and violate your civil rights!
Look, these protests are going forward. They will be well attended. It may be the begining of something larger or it may be the end of something that never was. Either way, what do you give a fuck if it is such a joke to you?
John D on April 10, 2009 at 8:06 PM
Going to one tomorrow, and I don’t care whether Dem, Rep or Polka-Dot, CA is broke and higher taxes/more government IS NOT THE FIX.
To paraphrase the useful idiots who got off an airplane from the USSR in the 1930′s (and Britain’s Fabian Socialists):
“We have seen the future…and it DOESN’T work.”
Harry Schell on April 10, 2009 at 8:09 PM
i’m going to the tea party to meet like-minded individuals. i don’t plan to break any laws. i am not carrying a weapon.
main purpose: for Congress to hear our voice. secondary purpose: ;to feel that we are not alone.
kelley in virginia on April 10, 2009 at 8:11 PM
Just Seminole trolls… Don’t waste your time on such trash. April 15th, the people will speak very loudly & peacefully; unless some stupid ass Liberal limp dick decides to stick his finger in my chest.
ProudRino… WTF is that?
Keemo on April 10, 2009 at 8:12 PM
Will MM and Allah be at one of the tea parties? Which ones?
clinker46 on April 10, 2009 at 8:15 PM
You’ve got a solid fanbase.
True_King on April 10, 2009 at 8:16 PM
I’m just completely shocked that Ace would rewrite my comment.
I remember when was he was a topdrawer warblogger.
Now he has gone just as insane as the rest of you.
Your homophobia is showing, Ace.
And no, the tea parties don’t matter and they are just sille.
You are at 24% of the electorate and falling.
You are powerless and you alienate every demographic except old people and republicans. And you have no path back to a majority through insane clowns like Beck.
strangelet on April 10, 2009 at 8:17 PM
Your right, that’s what the Supreme Courts for.
True_King on April 10, 2009 at 8:17 PM
What is this?
True_King on April 10, 2009 at 8:18 PM
I’ll be at a tea party, and I’ll have my weapon at my side.. My wife’s name is Kristi; she’s highly trained, very dangerous, and has a deep dislike for trouble makers.
Keemo on April 10, 2009 at 8:20 PM
A load of crap.
capitalist piglet on April 10, 2009 at 8:21 PM
The last few times the Right took advice from the Left, the Right got sucker-punched and hard.
If these protests upset the Left, then there must be something about them the Left fears, at a visceral level in intensity.
Thus, if the Left fears it, then it must be a good thing.
There will be a good number in Ohio on the 15th…a few within a short drive. I will be attending, if for no other reason than to piss off the Left.
coldwarrior on April 10, 2009 at 8:23 PM
That’s until the full weight of obama’s economic policies come to be bear. At that time, just like during the Carter years, the children will come running to the grown ups again.
thomasaur on April 10, 2009 at 8:24 PM
That giggled me. :)
True_King on April 10, 2009 at 8:24 PM
Let me clue in the Liberal idiots.
We have income taxes that are “voluntary”. We “meaning the People” can quite literally break the system through:
1. Applying for Mortgage relief, Food Stamps, Federal extensions on taxes, teaching tax strategy, applying for Grants, unlikely Federal Programs, etc in droves (a Cloward-Piven Strategy).
2. Hiding money and using aggressive computer tax avoidance programs.
3. sending money off-shore (for example, my cell is applying for multiple citizenships under Amnesty programs in “Sanctuary Cities” for use when, well nothing illegal I assure you.
4. Gold
5. Well, come on, use your imagination! What do you think Wal-mart set up those “Cash only” account and Transfer cards for, illegals? Great place to hide $20,000 or $30,000 at a pop. You would be amazed what a blank stare and a little Spanish Lingo will get for you!
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The point is morons, we are watching Limbaugh, Trump, etc walk out of New York as an example of the Country “Walking out on” paying for a Socialist system, defacto leaders in the movement showing us the way to break the Federal Government. The Tea Parties are a Social/Reinforcement gathering to assist in this outcome.
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Don’t you realize why they are called “Tea Parties”? It was over TAXES. Not Tea.
GunRunner on April 10, 2009 at 8:24 PM
My outrage and fear is real.
Our federal government is printing Trillions. CBO reports that 44% of federal expenditures this year will be paid with borrowed money.
Make no mistake: My fear and OUTRAGE IS REAL!
See you at the Tea Party!
TN Mom on April 10, 2009 at 8:25 PM
That’s one of the problems, no one is being taught U.S. History any longer.
thomasaur on April 10, 2009 at 8:27 PM
I’ll be at a tea party, and I’ll have my weapon at my side.. My wife’s name is Kristi; she’s highly trained, very dangerous, and has a deep dislike for trouble makers.
Keemo on April 10, 2009 at 8:20 PM
No need for weapons, be peaceful, let them know how you feel, if all else fails, my sign will be stapled to a Louisville Slugger…
In my heart, I want these to be so peaceful that Gandhi would be seen as a hooligan, if not, I have my stick.
M-14 2go on April 10, 2009 at 8:27 PM
strangelet on April 10, 2009 at 8:17 PM
Um, seems to me I heard some of my fellow Republican friends saying the same thing about the lowly Democrats following the 2004 election. My, how they were wrong. America shifts to the left, and then to the right.. Probably because we are all hoping one of the two parties will get it right at some point in our lifetime.
Republicans will regain power once again, it’s inevitable. When they do, they are going to be hell bent on punishing the socialist bastards that are leading us now. Speaking of now, the socialist bastards are punishing the Republicans for having treated them like socialist bastards for a decade or so. In the end, how does this help us?
I wish we could have honor & integrity in DC, but I’m getting old now and have given up on that happening in my life time. I am thankful that I lived during the Reagan era. That period of time makes me smile with pride.
Keemo on April 10, 2009 at 8:28 PM
strangelet:
Bush and the Republicans spending like sailors???What a joke, when the Democrats took control of Congress, the unemployment rate was 4.5% and deficit was about $160 billion. When Bush tried to veto a spending bill, they over rode it. They used resolutions to kick the last budget down the line so that Obama would sign it. That means a Demaocrat president signed a huge bloated budget that was sent to him by a Democratic Congress.
The problem with people like you is that you want all the power and none of the responsibility.
Terrye on April 10, 2009 at 8:29 PM
Typical teenager mentality.
thomasaur on April 10, 2009 at 8:32 PM
Complete and utter dummies like stranglet did not even know the Dems ran Congress the last two years.
CWforFreedom on April 10, 2009 at 8:32 PM
Terrye on April 10, 2009 at 8:29 PM
Got a feeling this one’s really young…
Keemo on April 10, 2009 at 8:32 PM
And it is wishful thinking to believe that the GOP is gone. They are not 24% of the population. I don’t care what fantasy poll you saw at CNN or CBS. The Real Clear Politics average has the generic balloting very close, with the Republicans only about 7% behind. In the last election, which was just a few months ago, the Republicans were 7% behind.
When Reagan won 49 states, the Democrats were the larger party. It is very rare for Republicans to actually outnumber Democrats in overall numbers. Republicans however have a history of out performing their numbers.
Time and again I have heard silly people on both sides of the aisle declare one party or another lost. They were always wrong.
Terrye on April 10, 2009 at 8:33 PM
Keemo:
Yes, he is probably not old enough to vote. Someone could send him a link saying that the GOP ceased to exist and he would believe it. Naive silly little people believe anything.
Terrye on April 10, 2009 at 8:34 PM
Terrye…….three words.
Prescription Drug Benefit.
That is a Bush program projected to cost 32 trillion.
You ppl really are morons.
strangelet on April 10, 2009 at 8:36 PM
And the point to this thread is the tea parties, if there are no conservatives and there are no libertarians and if the country has become a socialist utopia since November 2008, then what are the people like strangelet worried about?
Thou doth protest too much. Or something like that. You get the idea.
Terrye on April 10, 2009 at 8:37 PM
Me too. I was in the Navy under Lehman. What a time. Threw out the lazy and the druggies, stiffened up out spines. Saved us really. Once demonstrated to Mr. Lehman I could hit an egg at 200 meters with a scoped/Suppressed M14.
GunRunner on April 10, 2009 at 8:37 PM
You are at 24% of the electorate and falling.
You are powerless and you alienate every demographic except old people and republicans. And you have no path back to a majority through insane clowns like Beck.
strangelet on April 10, 2009 at 8:17 PM
I think that what we are are saying, is that we are the trough, and we’re tired of the pigs feeding from us, that includes you.
M-14 2go on April 10, 2009 at 8:39 PM
Yeah, the pendulum will swing back, but the arc will be damped by cultural and demographic evolution.
In 2020 caucasian becomes a minority in the US.
You guyz should have learned about polls by now.
Didn’t the last election teach you anything?
Teh maths don’t lie.
strangelet on April 10, 2009 at 8:39 PM
GunRunner on April 10, 2009 at 8:37 PM
Damn good shoot-in!!! Love to have you up here with us in Montana come hunting season.. I had a beautiful cow elk in my cross hair last season, about 400 yards out.. Hoping to see that cow again this season!
Keemo on April 10, 2009 at 8:41 PM
strangelet:
Two words: nationalized medicine. That is what Obama wants to do and it makes a drug discount program look like childs play.
And the one the Democrats were pushing costs more.
I work for a health care agency and I know how this program works. I know there are people who do not like it on principle. But the program is a discount program, not a giveaway and it is there so that people who are already on medicare will get their meds. Because if they don’t get their meds, the state will have to pay for their care. In fact a lot of the people who are using that program would have gone on Medicaid if not for the drug program and that is more costly.
So the point is that while government has steadily grown for many years, even under Reagan…the kind of growth Obama is talking about is unprecedented. It really is, if you had any idea of what you are talking about you would know that.
Terrye on April 10, 2009 at 8:41 PM
Wow, we were way off… I’d say 4th or 5th grade.
Keemo on April 10, 2009 at 8:42 PM
The Bush Program Prescription Drug Benefit going to cost $32 trillion? Are you willing to stake your life on that figure? That’s a lot of high quality blow for that amount…several hundred tons. And a Democrat controlled Congress enabled it to become law, too.
A reliable reference showing that $32 trillion figure would be nice. Since you’ve mentioned it as fact. Let’s see the facts.
coldwarrior on April 10, 2009 at 8:44 PM
strangelt:
Yes, the polls. Rasmussen was the polling company that got the best numbers and according to Rasmussens Republicans are gaining ground right now. And what is more Obama’s poll numbers are right about where Bush’s were at this stage in his presidency.
You seem to think that the world began day before yesterday. Bush had a 90% approval rating at one time and not so long ago Republicans were on top. Things can change very quickly my child.
Terrye on April 10, 2009 at 8:44 PM
You know what the monkey flinging feces in random directions really wants here at HA? Attention.
AUINSC on April 10, 2009 at 8:44 PM
Is strangelet suggesting that only white people vote Republican? How racist!
Keemo on April 10, 2009 at 8:45 PM
When I say Rasmussens got the best numbers, I mean they were closest on the money in the last election.
Terrye on April 10, 2009 at 8:45 PM
32 trillion is absolutely insane. The entire Medicare program does not cost that. Silly little moron does not know what a trillion is. In fact the program is costing less than people said it would and overall drug prices have come down since its implementation.
Terrye on April 10, 2009 at 8:46 PM
Am I the only one that remembers what happened when they tried to demonize the Minutemen?
John_R on April 10, 2009 at 8:47 PM
AUINSC:
You are right. No doubt. I will move along and leave it alone.
Terrye on April 10, 2009 at 8:47 PM
There you have it Ladies and Gents. Raw Racism in the Open.
I would not count out the Whites just yet, Strangelet. Many, including Xerxes whose Army “drank rivers dry” always seem to count out Whites, but found we were more than a match for them.
GunRunner on April 10, 2009 at 8:48 PM
Gunrunner:
Yes, but guys like this forget: conservatives do not tend to kill their young. They still have babies and what is more, they raise them.
Terrye on April 10, 2009 at 8:50 PM
G.W. Bush received some 62 Million votes in 2004.
Obama received some 64 million votes in 2008.
It’s estimated that some 2-3 million Conservatives stayed home in 2008 in protest of the choices given.
Keemo on April 10, 2009 at 8:52 PM
I could hit an egg at 200 meters with a scoped/Suppressed M14.
GunRunner on April 10, 2009 at 8:37 PM
MY GOD! You are the man,I can only guaranty a center mass shot out to 500 meters with iron sights and M118, an egg? Teach me!
M-14 2go on April 10, 2009 at 8:54 PM
According to Ron Paul, who did not support the drug program, the costs would be $400 billion in ten years. And I tried to find recent numbers and could not, but I read some time ago that it was coming in less than expected. Now, Obama wanted to set aside $635 billion as a down payment on his program..just to get things started.
Terrye on April 10, 2009 at 8:56 PM
Keemo:
And I hope they are proud of themselves.
Terrye on April 10, 2009 at 8:57 PM
Where is this $32 trillion number coming from?
Maybe over 100 years; or at least 70. But since the prescription program is only part of the overall Medicare program, the cost of Medicare minus the drug program is probably $60 trillion.
If we were to eliminate the prescription program completely, the unfunded mandates of Medicare and SS are still $70+ trillion over the next 50 years.
In other words, if our poster is so worried about future deficits he/she would be more concerned with other unfunded obligations more than this prescription program.
But because Bush’s name is on it, it must be demonized.
We know the routine by now….
SteveMG on April 10, 2009 at 8:58 PM
M-14 2go on April 10, 2009 at 8:54 PM
I want the GunRunner with us, in the Crazy Mountains in western Montana, come November for some Elk hunt-n. I filled me freezer with deer last year, mainly because we couldn’t hit our damn target at 400-500 yards. The Gunner could fill his freezer as well as mine with that kind of shoot-n!
Keemo on April 10, 2009 at 8:58 PM
We’re going with the kids.
We’re bringing a lot of colorful balloons and will be face painting kids (and any willing adults) with themes like:
-I *heart* freedom
-I am not government property
-Individualism Rocks!
-(Kids Only)Thanks for Your Debt
-Celebrate Diversity, Hug An Individualist
Any other ideas?
Saltysam on April 10, 2009 at 8:59 PM
In fact the program is costing less than people said it would and overall drug prices have come down since its implementation.
Exactly. I did a quick check at the CBO’s site and the best I could come up with is projections in the several trillion dollars at worst depending on how many senior citizens enroll in the program, how much discount the government could get on the drugs, et cetera.
If one is truly concerned with unfunded obligations they’d focus on SS and Medicare minus the prescription program.
SteveMG on April 10, 2009 at 9:00 PM
Steve:
The thing is those people are already on Medicare. If they don’t get the meds, who does that guy think will pay?
Besides, the Democrats were pushing another plan and it was far more expensive than the one Bush proposed. No matter how much money a Republican wants to spend, a Democrat wants to spend more..unless it is on Defense.
Terrye on April 10, 2009 at 9:00 PM
Terrye on April 10, 2009 at 8:57 PM
I hear ya loud & clear Terrye. As you know, I had my difficulties with campaigning for McCain, but I put that stuff down long enough to make the right decision. John McCain got all (4) available votes from my family.
Keemo on April 10, 2009 at 9:00 PM
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