Fox News question of the day: Can Palin save her political career?

posted at 8:00 pm on April 10, 2009 by Allahpundit

At first I was surprised the Foxies would dare to ask, but then I remembered which network it was that went gaga over the anonymous sniping at her by Team Maverick.

Are we sure her career’s in trouble? Judging by the response to her appearance at that pro-life event in Indiana, the market for her has yet to soften:

Right to Life officials announced Thursday that, in addition to speaking to a sold-out crowd of 2,180 during the 6 p.m. banquet in The Centre’s Bill Brooks Exhibition Hall, Palin will appear before people paying $16 per ticket to watch a live broadcast feed in the building’s auditorium.

Right to Life officials had been working for weeks to confirm Palin’s appearance in the auditorium with theater seating, where 564 of an available 2,500 tickets have been sold.

Palin, the Republican Party’s 2008 nominee for vice president and a possible 2012 presidential candidate, will be accompanied by her husband, Todd Palin, and the couple’s baby son, Trig…

The organization announced the extra gathering when they learned Palin would join keynote speaker Michael Steele, chairman of the Republican National Committee, at the sold-out banquet.

The peg for the FNC item is the ongoing freakification of her that I wrote about in the context of that Eminem video. The more tabloid nonsense washes in with the news tide, the more it erodes her credibility. (Latest chapter in the Levi/Palin feud: Sarahcuda insists that “over my dead body” would Johnston have been allowed to live with Bristol in their home.) Let’s try a patented Hot Air poll on this slow news night to see where you’re at on the question of career-saving. Option three is there mainly for our three lefty trolls. I’m more curious to see the split between options one and two. If you choose the latter, feel free to explain in the comments what you have in mind.

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She could read Dr. Suess for all I care. She’d still know better than to go on a world apology tour and bow to a Saudi dictator.

Erich66 on April 10, 2009 at 10:02 PM

Yeah. Take that one to the voters next time around. I’m sure it will prove to be a winner. [rolleyes]

JohnGalt23 on April 10, 2009 at 10:59 PM

Are you high?
Both Rush and/or Sarah would kick Newt’s ass!
Rush loves Palin, BTW–did you know that?

Jenfidel on April 10, 2009 at 10:58 PM

I think you are selling Newt a little short. He’s been doing a lot of research the past few years. He is very comfortable talking about technology/science and history that a lot of politician simply have never been exposed to. This isn’t to put down Rush or Palin, but you shouldn’t dumb down Gingrich…

Upstater85 on April 10, 2009 at 11:01 PM

I think there is a difference between constructive criticism, and speaking ill of. I think everything I’ve pointed out about SP’s performance has been fair, from a political standpoint. her performance was not well received last time around, and for us to simply bleat about an unfair MSM isn’t going to do us any good.

JohnGalt23 on April 10, 2009 at 10:57 PM

Her performance wouldn’t have been “well received” no matter what. The bar for her was set impossibly high, and that continues to be the case. The fact is, she’s a nice-looking woman and therefore is assumed to be an airhead unless she can give extemporaneous lectures on Aristotle. And only then with perfect grammar and a sufficiently plummy accent.

ddrintn on April 10, 2009 at 11:02 PM

If you lefties would invest in the video “Media Malpractice” you would be able to see and hear what Palin said about the ridiculous question of what do you read. She said that she was tired of the absurd questions and had decided to just brush off the dimwit Couric. She had asked several questions over and over and Palin said that she felt like they were demeaning to her and Alaskans. Buy the goddamn DVD and see your MSM at work! It is the most blatant example of unprofessionalism you will ever see. “Professionals” at work my ass!

inspectorudy on April 10, 2009 at 11:02 PM

I don’t know about anyone else, but when I hear Palin speak, she appeals to me on a visceral level that is inexplicable!
I haven’t felt that way since Reagan, well maybe a bit with Bush 43, but when Saran speaks, I feel hope…and the prospect of change. Oh wait…
Seriously, she makes my heart sing.
The lady has the Right Stuff and there are many, many of us who share this feeling.
Hide and watch: the Tea Parties are coming on Wednesday.

Jenfidel on April 10, 2009 at 11:03 PM

Would one of you trolls defend the line of succession we are faced with: Plugs Biden; Botox Pelosi; Sheets Byrd; and the $ genius, Gaither. Best insurance The One could have ever bought!

Dingbat63 on April 10, 2009 at 11:04 PM

I remember attending a Palin event in Grand Junction, Colorado during the campaign.

Obama was there a few months earlier and drew about 4,000 people. Respectable, but he did not beat Harry S. Truman’s record of 6,000 when he showed up back in the 1948 campaign.

Then Palin showed up, the crowd was estimated at 20,000. This in a very rural county with around 50,000 people.

Nothing can stop this woman from winning the presidency if she wants it. Nothing.

Norwegian on April 10, 2009 at 11:04 PM

I just don’t know if she can win without McCain on the ticket.

(See how nuts that sounds? Does that put it in perspective?)

Jim Treacher on April 10, 2009 at 11:04 PM

Yeah. Take that one to the voters next time around. I’m sure it will prove to be a winner. [rolleyes]

JohnGalt23 on April 10, 2009 at 10:59 PM

You’re damn right I’d take that to the voters, particularly if amateur hour continues at the White House. “Katie who gives a rat’s ass what I read, I know enough not to commit the mistakes of the messiah everyone thought they were voting for.”

Erich66 on April 10, 2009 at 11:05 PM

I recommend the following if you want to get some interest in the GOP. Have a debate with Gingrich, Palin and Limbaugh about the issues and recommended solutions.
Should put to rest the notion that Palin is a heavyweight and finally put Rush up against someone who can shut him down. For Palin the contrast would be devastating and prove once and for all how unprepared she is, for Rush the lack of solutions would be telling.

I do think that would be a good idea to drum up GOP chatter.

However, it wouldn’t be fitting for Palin to run off and do that. But three points – Newt has shifted to where he sees government as part of the solution (thus weakening his credibility with conservatives, esp on AGW); 2 Rush does provide solutions. His ideas on the budget, for example; 3 you underestimate her (I really believe, not cheering for her) she’s been successful in her state’s number 1 goal, energy, and she’s well-versed in conservative thought – which is the key to any successful debate on principles. She grew up reading politics in newspapers and books on Reagan and conservativism. That’s what her dad said. She brings more to the table then commonly known.

Spirit of 1776 on April 10, 2009 at 11:05 PM

She certainly had a problem with the “Bush Doctrine” question.

Her response to that question was “In what regard, Charlie.” Being that there are (at least) 4 Bush doctrines. Her response to the question was the correct one. She may have not known what specific doctrine Gibson mentioned, but, as you stated, neither did he. I thought, overall that this was not quite as damaging, as the question was very vague and poorly worded by the interviewer. The problem is the media spin. Charles Krauthammer coined the term, and wrote a piece explaining that neither one of them had a 100% solid grasp on the term.

Again, if a senator had had a weak grasp on the concept, that may be alarming. But you know what you get with governors; solid understanding of fiscal policy, but often lacking in foreign affairs as a candidate. (Reagan, Clinton, etc.)

doug1981 on April 10, 2009 at 11:06 PM

Best insurance The One could have ever bought!

Dingbat63 on April 10, 2009 at 11:04 PM

Insurance for not getting impeached?

Upstater85 on April 10, 2009 at 11:06 PM

She could read Dr. Suess for all I care. She’d still know better than to go on a world apology tour and bow to a Saudi dictator.

Erich66 on April 10, 2009 at 10:02 PM

+1
Good point after 4 years of Presidente Pinnochio apologizing for America all over the world and subverting us to every tin horn dictator worldwide, Americans might be ready for an America loving, rock solid conservative with a fiece independent streak, and belief that we are special given a special constitution and that is incumbant upon each of us to uphold the freedoms given us by said document rather than piss all over it to Spread the wealth.

dhunter on April 10, 2009 at 11:06 PM

This isn’t to put down Rush or Palin, but you shouldn’t dumb down Gingrich…

Upstater85 on April 10, 2009 at 11:01 PM

Sorry, but Newt’s made a lot of dumb mistakes: he believes in global warming, cosies up to Hillary and Nancy Pelosi, announced divorce to his cancer-stricken wife while he was having an affair, blew the Republican Majority and his Contract with America, had the unethical book deal, etc. etc. etc.

Jenfidel on April 10, 2009 at 11:06 PM

And therein lies the difference between you and other people. You prefer people who sound intelligent, while I and others, prefer people who are intelligent and are experienced in governing and have the results to show that they do.

Blake on April 10, 2009 at 10:21 PM

She’s a first term governor with an undergraduate degree in journalism, Blake. Sorry if I’m less impressed than you are. And just what “results” are you talking about? Please be specific.

I’m sure your heart is in the right place, but there doesn’t seem to be much difference between you and all the lefties who, based on absolutely no evidence whatsoever, think Obama is the new messiah.

Infidoll on April 10, 2009 at 11:07 PM

Jenfidel on April 10, 2009 at 10:26 PM

What was amateur hour was Obama’s entire campaign

Really!?!? Last time I looked, he is sitting in the funny shaped office. That says one thing about his campaign: Professional.

In campaigns, there is victory or death, and it ain’t tough to tell the difference… the dead ones are the ones making excuses.

JohnGalt23 on April 10, 2009 at 11:08 PM

Limbaugh would tear Gingrich a new one. I don’t think there’s any love lost there.

ddrintn on April 10, 2009 at 11:08 PM

Really!?!? Last time I looked, he is sitting in the funny shaped office. That says one thing about his campaign: Professional.

JohnGalt23 on April 10, 2009 at 11:08 PM

“Professional”? Give me the media sycophancy and a drummed-up financial crisis, and I can win as well.

ddrintn on April 10, 2009 at 11:10 PM

As to teh Fred & Romney, the drive by media would never ask a MAN this question.

Jenfidel on April 10, 2009 at 10:31 PM

Uh-huh. Playing the gender card now, are we?

Tactics worthy of Hillary.

JohnGalt23 on April 10, 2009 at 11:10 PM

Uh-huh. Playing the gender card now, are we?

Tactics worthy of Hillary.

JohnGalt23 on April 10, 2009 at 11:10 PM

I hope you know by now that you aren’t fooling anybody…you or your twin, strangelet.

AUINSC on April 10, 2009 at 11:11 PM

Again, if a senator had had a weak grasp on the concept, that may be alarming. But you know what you get with governors; solid understanding of fiscal policy, but often lacking in foreign affairs as a candidate. (Reagan, Clinton, etc.)

doug1981 on April 10, 2009 at 11:06 PM

I was willing to brush off her foreign policy experience when she was running as VP; however, in the world that we live in, I’d suggest that she do A LOT of reading on foreign policy if she intends on running for President.

Upstater85 on April 10, 2009 at 11:11 PM

Uh-huh. Playing the gender card now, are we?

Tactics worthy of Hillary.

JohnGalt23 on April 10, 2009 at 11:10 PM

The gender card is still there. Have you picked apart Jindal’s public statements in a similar manner? Sanford’s? Romney’s?

ddrintn on April 10, 2009 at 11:12 PM

doug1981 on April 10, 2009 at 11:06 PM

Even Gibson didn’t know what it meant. Neither did most of the people criticizing her for it.

If he’d asked, “What do you think about the Constitution?”, and she said, “Could you be more specific?”, the usual suspects would have accused her of not knowing what it is.

Jim Treacher on April 10, 2009 at 11:12 PM

Sorry, but Newt’s made a lot of dumb mistakes: he believes in global warming, cosies up to Hillary and Nancy Pelosi, announced divorce to his cancer-stricken wife while he was having an affair, blew the Republican Majority and his Contract with America, had the unethical book deal, etc. etc. etc.

Jenfidel on April 10, 2009 at 11:06 PM

And this somehow makes him stupid because? Also, I don’t think we should judge every single person with the moral sword. People make mistakes…

Upstater85 on April 10, 2009 at 11:13 PM

What was amateur hour was Obama’s entire campaign
Jenfidel on April 10, 2009 at 10:26 PM

This may be my favorite comment of all time.

Your guy gets hammered 365-173, red states turn blue, even more Democratic gains in Congress — and the political geniuses at hotair dismiss it as amateur hour!

benny shakar on April 10, 2009 at 11:13 PM

Really!?!? Last time I looked, he is sitting in the funny shaped office. That says one thing about his campaign: Professional.

In campaigns, there is victory or death, and it ain’t tough to tell the difference… the dead ones are the ones making excuses.

JohnGalt23 on April 10, 2009 at 11:08 PM

The one thing it says about his campaign is that virtually the entire MSM gave him free advertising, spin and cover.
That and he had almost $1 BILLION to spend–he got his own TV Channel, for Pete’s sake!
All the momentum went his way and McCain almost beat him despite running an abyssmal campaign himself plus the fact that McCain sucked as a candidate.
There’s nothing “professional” about Obama is except the fact that he’s a professional snake oil salesman/”community organizer.”

Jenfidel on April 10, 2009 at 11:13 PM

Uh-huh. Playing the gender card now, are we?

Tactics worthy of Hillary.

vs.

In campaigns, there is victory or death, and it ain’t tough to tell the difference… the dead ones are the ones making excuses.

You can’t have it both ways. Victory was won by the repeated use of the race card. Tactics worthy of Obama.

Spirit of 1776 on April 10, 2009 at 11:14 PM

I was willing to brush off her foreign policy experience when she was running as VP; however, in the world that we live in, I’d suggest that she do A LOT of reading on foreign policy if she intends on running for President.

Upstater85 on April 10, 2009 at 11:11 PM

She could certainly stand to brush up on a lot of things. But being word-perfect on the nuances of every situation in world affairs is MUCH less important to me than being grounded in a clear sense of right and wrong.

ddrintn on April 10, 2009 at 11:15 PM

Jim Treacher on April 10, 2009 at 11:12 PM

Cultist.

Spirit of 1776 on April 10, 2009 at 11:15 PM

she’s been successful in her state’s number 1 goal, energy,

Spirit of 1776 on April 10, 2009 at 11:05 PM

What do you base that on?

lowandslow on April 10, 2009 at 11:15 PM

I’d be happy to vote for Palin just to put a kink in the shorts of all you guys that don’t like her. I think I despise all of you even more than you despise her.

trigon on April 10, 2009 at 11:15 PM

And this somehow makes him stupid because? Also, I don’t think we should judge every single person with the moral sword. People make mistakes…

Upstater85 on April 10, 2009 at 11:13 PM

Belief in “global warming/climate change” makes a person’s intellect highly suspect in my book all by itself.
Newt is in it for Newt and I wish to G-d his lobbying group would stop calling me daily for $$$!

Jenfidel on April 10, 2009 at 11:16 PM

Robert_Paulson on April 10, 2009 at 10:19 PM

Okay …it’s a double standard but I think she is doing well…I think a lot of people wish she were handling this captain being held hostage by Somali pirates ordeal…

CCRWM on April 10, 2009 at 11:16 PM

What do you base that on?

lowandslow on April 10, 2009 at 11:15 PM

Do you do anything other than ask questions that have already been answered for you multiple times? You spend so much time trolling on here you must know the answers by now.

doug1981 on April 10, 2009 at 11:17 PM

lowandslow on April 10, 2009 at 11:15 PM

The pipeline for 1. Breaking up the inside-ball problems with revenue from the way the state pols with contracting drilling for 2.

Spirit of 1776 on April 10, 2009 at 11:17 PM

Your guy gets hammered 365-173, red states turn blue, even more Democratic gains in Congress — and the political geniuses at hotair dismiss it as amateur hour!

benny shakar on April 10, 2009 at 11:13 PM

It was. Obama didn’t really have to campaign at all. After September 15, he could’ve retired to some mountain in Tibet and the result would’ve been just about the same. With the media kissing his ass constantly, Obama should’ve won a Reagan-like landslide. That’s not what happened.

ddrintn on April 10, 2009 at 11:18 PM

I’d be happy to vote for Palin just to put a kink in the shorts of all you guys that don’t like her. I think I despise all of you even more than you despise her.

trigon on April 10, 2009 at 11:15 PM

Well I think that’s a perfect political ideology, voting based on spite.

lowandslow on April 10, 2009 at 11:18 PM

She could certainly stand to brush up on a lot of things. But being word-perfect on the nuances of every situation in world affairs is MUCH less important to me than being grounded in a clear sense of right and wrong.

ddrintn on April 10, 2009 at 11:15 PM

Yes, I understand, but I think too many of our politicians have no idea about the world we live in and believe whatever their “trusted” adviser tells them. I don’t want to have the standard that if Obama messed up then it’s OK if she does. Righties should always be much better.

Honestly, I wouldn’t mind if she didn’t have a lot of plans on the domestic front – as long as she had some ideas or was willing to work with people who did. Plans are for the D’s. The R’s should let the markets solve our problems.

Upstater85 on April 10, 2009 at 11:18 PM

Cindy Munford on April 10, 2009 at 10:07 PM

I don’t think the people who voted for him knowing nothing about him have anything to be proud of. Have you seen Media Malpractice?

CCRWM on April 10, 2009 at 11:18 PM

Your guy gets hammered 365-173, red states turn blue, even more Democratic gains in Congress — and the political geniuses at hotair dismiss it as amateur hour!

benny shakar on April 10, 2009 at 11:13 PM

McCain wasn’t hammered; he wasn’t Dukakis hammered, Jimmy Carter hammered or Walter Mondale hammered and he damn near won over That One.
As for red states turning blue, they can turn red again just as easily and with all the DemocRats are doing right now to their states and the country, that’s very easy to imagine!
The electorate is p*ssed or haven’t you heard?
Like about Wednesday’s Tea Parties planned in 1,900 U.S. cities?

Jenfidel on April 10, 2009 at 11:19 PM

This may be my favorite comment of all time.

Your guy gets hammered 365-173, red states turn blue, even more Democratic gains in Congress — and the political geniuses at hotair dismiss it as amateur hour!

benny shakar on April 10, 2009 at 11:13 PM

You are confusing political popularity with competence…as expected.

AUINSC on April 10, 2009 at 11:19 PM

The pipeline for 1. Breaking up the inside-ball problems with revenue from the way the state pols with contracting drilling for 2.

Spirit of 1776 on April 10, 2009 at 11:17 PM

What are talking about, what pipeline? And I don’t even know what the second part was.

lowandslow on April 10, 2009 at 11:20 PM

You are confusing political popularity with competence…as expected.

That’s par for the course for him.

doug1981 on April 10, 2009 at 11:21 PM

I’d suggest that she do A LOT of reading on foreign policy if she intends on running for President.

Foreign Policy Handbook
Chapter 1: What to do when North Korea test fires a rocket. A. Uh, don’t talk about disarming your nuclear arsenal.
Chapter 2: Etiquette.
A. Be sure to give foreign leaders IPods and DVD’s that work.
B. Keep the sucking up to Muslims at a minimum.
C. Act like a leader dammit; don’t bow to the guy in the headscarf.

Erich66 on April 10, 2009 at 11:21 PM

Spirit of 1776 on April 10, 2009 at 11:05 PM

I really have no idea who would come out on top in a forum like that. I suspect Gingrich would. Not sure that I agree with you about Rush. He may espouse solutions but I don’t think he can talk to the logistics the way Newt can.
As for Palin, I’d love to see her pull her own in that kind of forum. I’d be the first person to say “Guess I had the ol girl figured wrong”.

I’m not sure what you mean about “not fitting for Palin”. Do you mean as a sitting governor?
Something under the guise of “Debating Real Solutions” would drum up the interest for sure.

Bradky on April 10, 2009 at 11:21 PM

Belief in “global warming/climate change” makes a person’s intellect highly suspect in my book all by itself.
Newt is in it for Newt and I wish to G-d his lobbying group would stop calling me daily for $$$!

Jenfidel on April 10, 2009 at 11:16 PM

And Rush isn’t in it for Rush? Seriously, Rush would admit that if he wasn’t making money he wouldn’t be on the air. Further, Newt does care about the cause (just as Rush does). If he just wanted to make a few bucks using righty talking points, he’d go on Fox and get his own show…

Upstater85 on April 10, 2009 at 11:21 PM

What was amateur hour was Obama’s entire presidency!

Classless gifts to the king and queen, classless returning of a Churchill bust, bowing to the King of Saud, getting steamrolled by the Russians, Chinese and N.Koreans on his world vacation/tour.

Drumming up zero support for his Afgahn efforts while apologizing for America to every tin horn dictator and socialist cesspool he encounters.

Unable to fill more than one post at Treasury and damn few elsewhere and where he does he finds a bunch of tax dodging crooks.
Worst Presidente ever! Presidente Pinnochio a real boy or just a puppet?

dhunter on April 10, 2009 at 11:21 PM

Foreign Policy Handbook
Chapter 1: What to do when North Korea test fires a rocket. A. Uh, don’t talk about disarming your nuclear arsenal.
Chapter 2: Etiquette.
A. Be sure to give foreign leaders IPods and DVD’s that work.
B. Keep the sucking up to Muslims at a minimum.
C. Act like a leader dammit; don’t bow to the guy in the headscarf.

Erich66 on April 10, 2009 at 11:21 PM

Yes, right out of Carter’s Obama’s play book…

Upstater85 on April 10, 2009 at 11:23 PM

I changed nothing. I merely blockquoted from the material in the blog thread.

MB4 on April 10, 2009 at 10:22 PM

Why did you leave it out again now then? Just vcfurious as to what your point is…

One of the thngs I intend to do, not only with Palin but with other conservatives, is not to allow misrepresentations and distortions to go unanswered. We are in the fight of our lives. We must not grow weary or faint we must persevere or we’ll lose this great country of ours for good…

CCRWM on April 10, 2009 at 11:23 PM

It was. Obama didn’t really have to campaign at all. After September 15, he could’ve retired to some mountain in Tibet and the result would’ve been just about the same. With the media kissing his ass constantly, Obama should’ve won a Reagan-like landslide. That’s not what happened.
ddrintn on April 10, 2009 at 11:18 PM

Please continue to blame your historic political defeats and palin’s status as punchline on “the media”… that strategy has been working great!

benny shakar on April 10, 2009 at 11:24 PM

Do you do anything other than ask questions that have already been answered for you multiple times? You spend so much time trolling on here you must know the answers by now.

doug1981 on April 10, 2009 at 11:17 PM

You guys don’t answer anything, you obfuscate and distort and misdirect. The fact of the matter is she hasn’t done anything about in terms of energy except push a windfall profit tax that is now acting as a deterrent to further development. Something you guys just can’t seem to grasp.

lowandslow on April 10, 2009 at 11:24 PM

I really have no idea who would come out on top in a forum like that. I suspect Gingrich would. Not sure that I agree with you about Rush. He may espouse solutions but I don’t think he can talk to the logistics the way Newt can.

She’d hold her own.

And I’d like to see Newt, as much as I like him, rally 70,000 people in Florida.

doug1981 on April 10, 2009 at 11:24 PM

Jenfidel on April 10, 2009 at 10:58 PM

I am not high but would submit that you have not listened to Gingrich very much. Does it matter if Rush “likes” Palin?
Gives her a chance to separate herself from him to a degree.

Bradky on April 10, 2009 at 11:25 PM

Bradky on April 10, 2009 at 11:21 PM

I think you might be right that he wouldn’t talk logistics like Newt, but that doesn’t mean one is superior to the other. One deals in details, the other in principles. Got to have both.

I did mean as sitting governor. One of the frequent criticism about Romney (from the left, natch) was that he spent more time campaigning as governor then running the state. It’s a perception issue more then reality, probably, but just dangerous game to play.

Regardless, I’d like to see a forum like that.

Spirit of 1776 on April 10, 2009 at 11:26 PM

And Rush isn’t in it for Rush? Seriously, Rush would admit that if he wasn’t making money he wouldn’t be on the air. Further, Newt does care about the cause (just as Rush does). If he just wanted to make a few bucks using righty talking points, he’d go on Fox and get his own show…

Upstater85 on April 10, 2009 at 11:21 PM

You switched subjects–typical contrarian troll.
Rush is successful on his own terms and he admits he’s doing it to be successful and that he won’t stop what he’s doing until he’s changed every Liberal into a Conservative.
Newt makes no such vow–just asks for dough and then gases it up on the TV talk show circuit, usually FNC, pushing his latest book and whatever the hell his group is called but this geek hasn’t been a player, much less a Republican and/or a Conservative one, since the mid-1990′s.
Face it.

Jenfidel on April 10, 2009 at 11:26 PM

You are confusing political popularity with competence…as expected.
AUINSC on April 10, 2009 at 11:19 PM

My friend, as a republican you may have forgotten that the goal in an election is to be elected.

In that respect, President Obama was hugely successful in both popularity and competence.

benny shakar on April 10, 2009 at 11:26 PM

You guys don’t answer anything, you obfuscate and distort and misdirect. The fact of the matter is she hasn’t done anything about in terms of energy except push a windfall profit tax that is now acting as a deterrent to further development. Something you guys just can’t seem to grasp.

We have answered these things over and over again. Yet you continue to troll. Anytime someone lists her accomplishments, you find some foolish excuse to dismiss them. She could cure cancer and you’d still not be satisfied.

doug1981 on April 10, 2009 at 11:27 PM

And I’d like to see Newt, as much as I like him, rally 70,000 people in Florida.

doug1981 on April 10, 2009 at 11:24 PM

Maybe it is more hope than I should have but I hope that Americans tire of celebrity status and body counts at rallies and begin to focus on the words and proposals the candidates offer….

Bradky on April 10, 2009 at 11:27 PM

ddrintn on April 10, 2009 at 10:54 PM

Nor, I might add, have we expected presidents to be intellectuals. Until Palin came on the scene, apparently.

There is a difference between being an intellectual, and demonstrating intellectual curiosity. I don’t expect Hans Morgenthau or Milt Friedman to get elected President, but I sure would like the President to at least wonder what they had to say.

Whatever answers she gave in those interviews, she would have been condemned for them.

Not by me, she wouldn’t have.

If she had said “You know, I think the SCOTUS blurred the line between state and private enterprise in Kelo“, or “SCOTUS essentially read the Privileges and Immunities Clause out of the Constitution in the Slaughterhouse Cases”, I’d have applauded her, and not yet stopped.

The problem with your argument is that plenty of us watched the interviews she gave, without the filter of talking heads, and we were not impressed with what we saw. And that isn’t just the keyboard commandos… plenty of the folks at NR took her to task for those interviews.

…it would have been chalked up to excellent coaching.

And just what is so bad about excellent coaching? I’d rather she was accused of that then of being poorly coached, which is what ended up happening.

Did any interviewer ask alleged constitutional scholar Obama the Supreme Court question?

i don’t know… I wasn’t in the habit of watching his interviews. But I guarantee you, if he was, he would have a dozen cases at his fingertips to talk about.

JohnGalt23 on April 10, 2009 at 11:27 PM

What are talking about, what pipeline? And I don’t even know what the second part was.

lowandslow on April 10, 2009 at 11:20 PM

Exactly. Most people who minimize her don’t know what she’s done. Which is why I like her. I was watching her on CNBC long before the nomination, so I’ve been impressed with her for a while. She’s the real deal.

Oh, but her daughter was preggers!

Spirit of 1776 on April 10, 2009 at 11:27 PM

In that respect, President Obama was hugely successful in both popularity and competence.

Competency in campaigning and competency in governing are two very different things.

doug1981 on April 10, 2009 at 11:28 PM

You switched subjects–typical contrarian troll.
Rush is successful on his own terms and he admits he’s doing it to be successful and that he won’t stop what he’s doing until he’s changed every Liberal into a Conservative.
Newt makes no such vow–just asks for dough and then gases it up on the TV talk show circuit, usually FNC, pushing his latest book and whatever the hell his group is called but this geek hasn’t been a player, much less a Republican and/or a Conservative one, since the mid-1990’s.
Face it.

Jenfidel on April 10, 2009 at 11:26 PM

How did I switch subjects? Oh, and apparently because I don’t agree with you, I’m a troll. Yep, forgot that axiom.

Yes, Rush is successful, and I don’t begrudge him whatsoever.

Newt it successful, and, again, I don’t begrudge him whatsoever. Perhaps his time is up as a candidate; however, to somehow discredit him because he made some “moral” mistakes and hasn’t run for office is ridiculous. We should all just discredit Thatcher then, right?

Upstater85 on April 10, 2009 at 11:29 PM

I am not high but would submit that you have not listened to Gingrich very much.
Bradky on April 10, 2009 at 11:25 PM

I’ve heard enough, thanks.
The GOP/base will be committing political suicide if they allow another squishy loser like Newt to be their leader.
Rush (and Beck) love Sarah, but even Rush has taken his leave of Newt.
We need a firebrand like Sarah to tell Obama and the DemocRats “over my dead body!”

Jenfidel on April 10, 2009 at 11:30 PM

My friend, as a republican you may have forgotten that the goal in an election is to be elected.

In that respect, President Obama was hugely successful in both popularity and competence.

benny shakar on April 10, 2009 at 11:26 PM

The first one is a given…it’s the second one you are having trouble proving objectively.

AUINSC on April 10, 2009 at 11:31 PM

i don’t know… I wasn’t in the habit of watching his interviews. But I guarantee you, if he was, he would have a dozen cases at his fingertips to talk about.

JohnGalt23 on April 10, 2009 at 11:27 PM

Assuming TOTUS was in tow

Erich66 on April 10, 2009 at 11:31 PM

We need a firebrand like Sarah to tell Obama and the DemocRats “over my dead body!”

Jenfidel on April 10, 2009 at 11:30 PM

Over my dead body body what? Please elaborate, or is this now just some big mob rush…

Upstater85 on April 10, 2009 at 11:32 PM

We have answered these things over and over again. Yet you continue to troll. Anytime someone lists her accomplishments, you find some foolish excuse to dismiss them. She could cure cancer and you’d still not be satisfied.

doug1981 on April 10, 2009 at 11:27 PM

Only in you mind. All you guys do is give tired excuses for bad governing.
How is AGIA going to work? Who is going to pay for it?
How is ACES working out? What are specific “energy plans”?
What about her massive increase in the size of her government?
Tell us why should any conservative support her?

lowandslow on April 10, 2009 at 11:33 PM

Regardless of how you feel about Levin (I’m not all that fond of him, but to be fair, I haven’t read his latest yet), I would certainly hope our next standard bearer would be a little better read.

I would recommend, at the least:

1) Hans Morgenthau: Politics Among Nations

2) Barry Goldwater: Conscience of a Conservative

3) Buckley and Goldwater: Up From Liberalism

4) Kenneth Waltz: Man, The State, and War and,

5) Theory of International Politics

6) Robert Bork: Slouching Towards Gommorah

7) Milton Friedman: Capitalism and Freedom and,

8) Free To Choose

9) John Locke: Two Treatises

10) Nicolo Machiavelli: The Prince and,

11) Discourses

There’s a lot more I could list, but off the top of my head, and considering the glaring weak points she demonstrated during the campaign, these should give her a solid base from which to discuss both foreign policy and right-wing thought.

JohnGalt23 on April 10, 2009 at 8:43 PM

I love Machiavelli’s The discourses. My favorite read ever in a politcal theory class.

I might as well throw in some of my own recommendations:

Reflections on the Revolution in France – Edmund Burke

The Rights of Man – Thomas Paine (in response to Burke’s work above)

God And Man At Yale – William F. Buckley Jr.

The Virtue of Selfishness – Ayn Rand

The Conservative Mind – Russel Kirk

Surrender Is Not an Option: Defending America at the United Nations – John Bolton

Finding the Target: The Transformation of American Military Policy – Frederick Kagan

Blue Planet in Green Shackles – Vaclav Kalus (on Global Warming Hysteria, but all of the Czech President’s books should be read)

Liberal Fascism – Jonah Goldberg

Heaven on Earth: The Rise and Fall of Socialism – Joshua Muravchik

The Black Book of Communism: Crimes, Terror, Repression – Stéphane Courtois

Communist Manifesto – Marx/Engel (should be read by every Conservative)

Anyone’s who heart is in the right place can use these books to help find the right words to explain their feelings.

Daemonocracy on April 10, 2009 at 11:34 PM

Sorry for the typos, I’m watching The Office on HULU at the same time.

lowandslow on April 10, 2009 at 11:34 PM

Perhaps his time is up as a candidate; however, to somehow discredit him because he made some “moral” mistakes and hasn’t run for office is ridiculous. We should all just discredit Thatcher then, right?

Upstater85 on April 10, 2009 at 11:29 PM

What are you talking about?
I clearly answered you that the moral part of it isn’t the deal breaker for me regarding Newt!
It’s the Greeny Global Warming happy talk and his unctuous “bi-partisanship” that makes me shudder.
Newt has been pwned by the Dems and it shows.

Jenfidel on April 10, 2009 at 11:34 PM

Foreign Policy Handbook
Chapter 1: What to do when North Korea test fires a rocket. A. Uh, don’t talk about disarming your nuclear arsenal.
Chapter 2: Etiquette.
A. Be sure to give foreign leaders IPods and DVD’s that work.
B. Keep the sucking up to Muslims at a minimum.
C. Act like a leader dammit; don’t bow to the guy in the headscarf.

Erich66 on April 10, 2009 at 11:21 PM

D. Cut defence spending i.e missle defence shield.
I wonder who called them out on this? Oh I know it was some no name Govorner from AK–/sarc.

Clyde5445 on April 10, 2009 at 11:35 PM

lowandslow on April 10, 2009 at 11:33 PM

You can’t even answer your own questions.

What are your problems with ACES and AGIA?

And where are these massive increases in government?

If you don’t know what her energy plans are, you really are clueless.

doug1981 on April 10, 2009 at 11:35 PM

We need a firebrand like Sarah to tell Obama and the DemocRats “over my dead body!”

Jenfidel on April 10, 2009 at 11:30 PM

Then the firebrand should want to show the squishy people, sometimes known as independents, just why she offers real solutions that make more sense than those of Gingrich.
My point is that if Sarah wants it that badly she will need to take on some heavyweights to prove herself before the general election. Why not heavyweights within her own party who will not be hostile to her? If she is really that talented the media will have little choice except to take notice.

Bradky on April 10, 2009 at 11:36 PM

Liberal Fascism – Jonah Goldberg

Anyone’s who heart is in the right place can use these books to help find the right words to explain their feelings.

Daemonocracy on April 10, 2009 at 11:34 PM

+1 Good read. I really like Goldberg’s style. The others are good too.

Upstater85 on April 10, 2009 at 11:36 PM

Over my dead body body what? Please elaborate, or is this now just some big mob rush…

Upstater85 on April 10, 2009 at 11:32 PM

Over my dead body will they pass trillions in debt, new domestic spending and taxes!
Over my dead body will they send Gitmo inmates to my state for any reason!
Over my dead body will our children be forced to serve in Obama’s “civilian army” nor will I be subject to them!
Over my dead body will I allow our health care industry to be Socialized, or allow medical care to be rationed based on factors decided by some federal bureaucracy, or have my personal medical records put in a national date bank accessible to all!

Jenfidel on April 10, 2009 at 11:39 PM

It’s the Greeny Global Warming happy talk and his unctuous “bi-partisanship” that makes me shudder.
Newt has been pwned by the Dems and it shows.

Jenfidel on April 10, 2009 at 11:34 PM

OK, I don’t believe in Global Warming at the moment. Even if it is true, I don’t think there’s a whole lot we could do to really drastically curb it… With my troll-like understanding, though, I have inferred that Newt believes that it is responsible to develop 1) cleaner technology and 2) energy independence – and he encourages the markets to develop this technology with minimal government funding/grants… This isn’t so different from SP, but I guess because Newt talks with D’s he should be shunned.

Upstater85 on April 10, 2009 at 11:40 PM

Over my dead body will they pass trillions in debt, new domestic spending and taxes!
Over my dead body will they send Gitmo inmates to my state for any reason!
Over my dead body will our children be forced to serve in Obama’s “civilian army” nor will I be subject to them!
Over my dead body will I allow our health care industry to be Socialized, or allow medical care to be rationed based on factors decided by some federal bureaucracy, or have my personal medical records put in a national date bank accessible to all!

Jenfidel on April 10, 2009 at 11:39 PM

See, passionate, and conservative at the same time…

Upstater85 on April 10, 2009 at 11:40 PM

A couple of other book are the one Nixon wrote in the 80′s very good insight about todays problems.

Clyde5445 on April 10, 2009 at 11:41 PM

Upstater85 on April 10, 2009 at 11:40 PM

It’s hard to be nice to you when you’re so dense…
OK, you stick with Newt, the useless putz.
The rest of us will follow the leader who practices what she preaches and knows a hell of a lot more than Newt about energy and public policy about energy without sounding like Al Gore’s cousin, like Newt does.

Jenfidel on April 10, 2009 at 11:43 PM

You can’t even answer your own questions.

What are your problems with ACES and AGIA?

Good grief. What’s wrong with ACES? It’s a massive corporate tax that doesn’t work, it does more harm then good. Do you know nothing about this?
AGIA is a fantasy, it’s never going to happen, we’ve been over this time and time again. You guys just won’t accept reality. She should have been working with the producers to get a viable plan together that could actually work towards getting a pipeline someday.

And where are these massive increases in government?

You’re joking right? You’re telling me you’re not aware how the size and cost of her state government went up under her reign? More disingenuous horseshit.

If you don’t know what her energy plans are, you really are clueless.

doug1981 on April 10, 2009 at 11:35 PM

Well fill us in on her energy plans? Drill baby drill isn’t a plan, it’s a slogan.

lowandslow on April 10, 2009 at 11:45 PM

Again, if a senator had had a weak grasp on the concept, that may be alarming. But you know what you get with governors; solid understanding of fiscal policy, but often lacking in foreign affairs as a candidate. (Reagan, Clinton, etc.)

doug1981 on April 10, 2009 at 11:06 PM

I agree completely. But she would do herself a big favor by being prepared next time around.

JohnGalt23 on April 10, 2009 at 11:45 PM

+1 Good read. I really like Goldberg’s style. The others are good too.

Upstater85 on April 10, 2009 at 11:36 PM

Goldberg is my favorite. One of the brightest Conservative minds out there today. He was actually on Glenn Beck’s show today, among others, so I wonder if all the haters will attack him for being some sort of kook and embarassment?

Daemonocracy on April 10, 2009 at 11:45 PM

Drill baby drill isn’t a plan, it’s a slogan.

lowandslow on April 10, 2009 at 11:45 PM

Why isn’t it a plan?
And why is the current plan “cap and trade?”

Jenfidel on April 10, 2009 at 11:46 PM

It’s hard to be nice to you when you’re so dense…
OK, you stick with Newt, the useless putz.
The rest of us will follow the leader who practices what she preaches and knows a hell of a lot more than Newt about energy and public policy about energy without sounding like Al Gore’s cousin, like Newt does.

Jenfidel on April 10, 2009 at 11:43 PM

Now, you can call me a poopie head. Oh, and I never said I wouldn’t support “The Leader” Sarah, did I? I never even said that I didn’t like her, did I? I just pointed out that you shouldn’t knock on Gingrich because you have a hankering for Palin (as far as I know there is no bad blood between the two)

Yes, Palin will be a successful President so long as she cuts off contact with any conservative Jenfidel doesn’t like and calls names… /sarc

I guess we’ll just throw Reagan’s 11th commandment out the window…

Upstater85 on April 10, 2009 at 11:46 PM

I’d be happy to vote for Palin just to put a kink in the shorts of all you guys that don’t like her. I think I despise all of you even more than you despise her.

trigon on April 10, 2009 at 11:15 PM
Well I think that’s a perfect political ideology, voting based on spite.

lowandslow on April 10, 2009 at 11:18 PM

It’s not spite. It’s pure malice.

trigon on April 10, 2009 at 11:47 PM

Goldberg is my favorite. One of the brightest Conservative minds out there today. He was actually on Glenn Beck’s show today, among others, so I wonder if all the haters will attack him for being some sort of kook and embarassment?

Daemonocracy on April 10, 2009 at 11:45 PM

I’d like to see them try. Goldberg is one of the few reasons I still check up on NRO.

Upstater85 on April 10, 2009 at 11:47 PM

What are talking about, what pipeline?
lowandslow on April 10, 2009 at 11:20 PM

The pipeline that sarah palin, in all her wisdom, awarded to a Canadian company that has no rights to the gas reserves in Prudhoe Bay. It gets better — she also gave them $500 million!

Poor sarah’s political capital is so low she can’t even successfully name a replacement for a vacant state senate seat; it is frightening (and amusing) to imagine her trying to play politics with the big boys.

benny shakar on April 10, 2009 at 11:47 PM

Upstater85 on April 10, 2009 at 11:46 PM

I’m not terribly convinced that Newt’s all that Conservative.
Just sayin’.
Hence, for me, epic fail.

I’ll never forget the Southern caller who asked Rush one day last year, “What in the cornbread hell is wrong with Newt?”

Jenfidel on April 10, 2009 at 11:49 PM

Why isn’t it a plan?
And why is the current plan “cap and trade?”

Jenfidel on April 10, 2009 at 11:46 PM

What is she doing to promote more drilling in Alaska right now, under her administration?

lowandslow on April 10, 2009 at 11:52 PM

The pipeline that sarah palin, in all her wisdom, awarded to a Canadian company that has no rights to the gas reserves in Prudhoe Bay. It gets better — she also gave them $500 million!

Poor sarah’s political capital is so low she can’t even successfully name a replacement for a vacant state senate seat; it is frightening (and amusing) to imagine her trying to play politics with the big boys.

The Canadians do have rights to that oil, it is a highly complicated issue dealing with transnational and transcorporate entities.

And what vacant Senate seat? did someone die today?

Daemonocracy on April 10, 2009 at 11:53 PM

I’m not terribly convinced that Newt’s all that Conservative.
Just sayin’.
Hence, for me, epic fail.

I’ll never forget the Southern caller who asked Rush one day last year, “What in the cornbread hell is wrong with Newt?”

Jenfidel on April 10, 2009 at 11:49 PM

Personally, I think Gingrich has a tad bit of compassionate conservatism in him – that is a turn off… Further, I think Newt (at this point) would probably serve better as an adviser. Maybe he could advice Palin, but that is pure blasphemy!

Upstater85 on April 10, 2009 at 11:53 PM

The gender card is still there. Have you picked apart Jindal’s public statements in a similar manner? Sanford’s? Romney’s?

ddrintn on April 10, 2009 at 11:12 PM

Oh, trust me, I excoriated Mitt Romney any number of times in 2007, with far more relish and vitriol than I have done so here with SP. I tore Jindal apart for his Mardi Gras performance, in terms similar to “Looks like Bobby spent a little too much time out on Bourbon Street before giving the speech of his political career (up till that point).

The difference is that there is a lot of material to examine on SP, as she was on the national stage for four months, and she is, arguably, the front-runner for 2012. That makes her a target, not her gender.

JohnGalt23 on April 10, 2009 at 11:53 PM

The pipeline that sarah palin, in all her wisdom, awarded to a Canadian company that has no rights to the gas reserves in Prudhoe Bay. It gets better — she also gave them $500 million!

Poor sarah’s political capital is so low she can’t even successfully name a replacement for a vacant state senate seat; it is frightening (and amusing) to imagine her trying to play politics with the big boys.

benny shakar on April 10, 2009 at 11:47 PM

Links benny, links…since you have so little credibility at this point, you must have links.

AUINSC on April 10, 2009 at 11:54 PM

She signed a $40 BILLION contract with a Canadian pipeline company and she makes every effort as Governor to support the drilling companies there now as she never forgets that oil and gas are the primary source of Alaska’s wealth.
Alaska couldn’t make it on salmon, little totem pole souvenirs and Eskimo pies, you know…

1st and last time I respond to you, troll.

Jenfidel on April 10, 2009 at 11:55 PM

What is she doing to promote more drilling in Alaska right now, under her administration?

lowandslow on April 10, 2009 at 11:52 PM

Oh I don’t know, maybe every time she discusses the issue she blasts the Federal Policy which prevents her from drilling in ANWR. You realize that Federal Government takes precedent over State Government…right? maybe she should call in the Alaskan National Guard and take ANWR by force?

Daemonocracy on April 10, 2009 at 11:55 PM

You can’t have it both ways. Victory was won by the repeated use of the race card. Tactics worthy of Obama.

Spirit of 1776 on April 10, 2009 at 11:14 PM

If Bobby Jindal or Mike Steele or Ken Blackwell supporter pulls out a “Would you ask a white man that question” card, trust me, I’ll be using exactly that phrase.

JohnGalt23 on April 10, 2009 at 11:56 PM

The Canadians do have rights to that oil, it is a highly complicated issue dealing with transnational and transcorporate entities.

And what vacant Senate seat? did someone die today?

Daemonocracy on April 10, 2009 at 11:53 PM

To start with it’s a natural gas pipeline. And the rights to that gas belong to the producers (BP, Exxon, Conaco, etc.) that own the leases.

lowandslow on April 10, 2009 at 11:57 PM

Poor sarah’s political capital is so low she can’t even successfully name a replacement for a vacant state senate seat; it is frightening (and amusing) to imagine her trying to play politics with the big boys.

benny shakar on April 10, 2009 at 11:47 PM

LOL you are such an absolute dishonest tool. It’s a democratic seat, the democrats have to approve her selection and she’s not playing their games. They want Beth Kertulla, rabid anti-Palin lib, in there come hell or high water and she’s not playing along. They violated protocol by submitting only one name, hers, and she rightly said forget that. Oh and even other senate democrats recognize they botched this from the start. Good God you are helpless.

Erich66 on April 10, 2009 at 11:57 PM

Oh I don’t know, maybe every time she discusses the issue she blasts the Federal Policy which prevents her from drilling in ANWR. You realize that Federal Government takes precedent over State Government…right? maybe she should call in the Alaskan National Guard and take ANWR by force?

Daemonocracy on April 10, 2009 at 11:55 PM

How about on state land? The feds don’t own all of Alaska.

lowandslow on April 10, 2009 at 11:58 PM

If Bobby Jindal or Mike Steele or Ken Blackwell supporter pulls out a “Would you ask a white man that question” card, trust me, I’ll be using exactly that phrase.

JohnGalt23 on April 10, 2009 at 11:56 PM

Ha, it doesn’t matter for Jindal. His parents were Indian – not far enough up the D’s preferential treatment group list…

Upstater85 on April 10, 2009 at 11:58 PM

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