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Fox News question of the day: Can Palin save her political career?

posted at 8:00 pm on April 10, 2009 by Allahpundit
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At first I was surprised the Foxies would dare to ask, but then I remembered which network it was that went gaga over the anonymous sniping at her by Team Maverick.

Are we sure her career’s in trouble? Judging by the response to her appearance at that pro-life event in Indiana, the market for her has yet to soften:

Right to Life officials announced Thursday that, in addition to speaking to a sold-out crowd of 2,180 during the 6 p.m. banquet in The Centre’s Bill Brooks Exhibition Hall, Palin will appear before people paying $16 per ticket to watch a live broadcast feed in the building’s auditorium.

Right to Life officials had been working for weeks to confirm Palin’s appearance in the auditorium with theater seating, where 564 of an available 2,500 tickets have been sold.

Palin, the Republican Party’s 2008 nominee for vice president and a possible 2012 presidential candidate, will be accompanied by her husband, Todd Palin, and the couple’s baby son, Trig…

The organization announced the extra gathering when they learned Palin would join keynote speaker Michael Steele, chairman of the Republican National Committee, at the sold-out banquet.

The peg for the FNC item is the ongoing freakification of her that I wrote about in the context of that Eminem video. The more tabloid nonsense washes in with the news tide, the more it erodes her credibility. (Latest chapter in the Levi/Palin feud: Sarahcuda insists that “over my dead body” would Johnston have been allowed to live with Bristol in their home.) Let’s try a patented Hot Air poll on this slow news night to see where you’re at on the question of career-saving. Option three is there mainly for our three lefty trolls. I’m more curious to see the split between options one and two. If you choose the latter, feel free to explain in the comments what you have in mind.


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She is fine. Don’t over react.

portlandon on April 10, 2009 at 8:01 PM

She needs to give us her stance on things, away from the rino stink of John McCain. That would solidify it for me.

HornetSting on April 10, 2009 at 8:03 PM

I think she can weather it out, since most of what has happened to her is an out and out smear. The only thing I would ask is…after all she has been through and no doubt will continue to go through, why would she want to have a political career at this point? This is miserable stuff.

AUINSC on April 10, 2009 at 8:03 PM

The more tabloid nonsense washes in with the news tide, the more it erodes her credibility.

I disagree. I think people will see the erosion of actual journalism. When the nightly news sounds like someone is reading directly out of the National Enquirer, things have gone WAY over the line.

portlandon on April 10, 2009 at 8:04 PM

She needs to give us her stance on things, away from the rino stink of John McCain. That would solidify it for me.

HornetSting on April 10, 2009 at 8:03 PM

Agreed. Before I cast a vote for her, she would need to be very articulate on what exactly her ideas/plans (prefer ideas – plans sound so progressive)

Upstater85 on April 10, 2009 at 8:05 PM

“Yeah, but she needs to do some things differently.”

Like being herself, not listening to any RINO advisers, and telling the MSM to go fu$k themselves…………

………….. if the left wasn’t afraid, they wouldn’t be talking about her.

Keep on rockin’ Sarah…………

Seven Percent Solution on April 10, 2009 at 8:05 PM

I agree with McCain on this. Palin may not deserve to be anointed as our next presidential candidate, but she has certainly shown that she is worthy of competing for the candidacy against anyone.

DarkKnight3565 on April 10, 2009 at 8:06 PM

Seven Percent Solution on April 10, 2009 at 8:05 PM

+1

JoeAvg on April 10, 2009 at 8:06 PM

I’m not a lefty troll but as much as I like her I chose the last option. She is already a caricature, rightly or not, and no way the MSM or the Left lets up on her. A lot of the problem was McCain’s mishandling of her from the start, but she’s become a highly polarizing figure who would draw just as much money to her Dem opponent as she would to herself.

Again, I like her, she’s the ONLY reason I voted McCain last time…but I think she’s done as far as the Presidency goes.

changer1701 on April 10, 2009 at 8:07 PM

I agree with McCain on this. Palin may not deserve to be anointed as our next presidential candidate, but she has certainly shown that she is worthy of competing for the candidacy against anyone.

DarkKnight3565 on April 10, 2009 at 8:06 PM

Honestly, I hope the right gives up a large number of strong candidates. I want better choices than we had in the past…

Upstater85 on April 10, 2009 at 8:08 PM

Who the hell comes up with there questions? Jeeze!!

Of course she can “save” her political career. (Actually, I didn’t even realize it was in trouble.) She needs to spend the next 18 months hitting the books, and she must, I repeat MUST win reelection.

If she does that, she is instant first tier for 2012.

JohnGalt23 on April 10, 2009 at 8:08 PM

If she allies herself with Becks ideas she might do fine.

True_King on April 10, 2009 at 8:09 PM

rino stink

HornetSting on April 10, 2009 at 8:03 PM

Those two words are synonymous . One of our trolls only helps to prove it.

CWforFreedom on April 10, 2009 at 8:09 PM

Who the hell comes up with there questions? Jeeze!!

JohnGalt23 on April 10, 2009 at 8:08 PM

I’m waiting for “Is Meghan McCain’s political career in the gutter?” Or more realistically, “After Bawney screwed up, will you still vote for him?”

Upstater85 on April 10, 2009 at 8:10 PM

Option three is there mainly for our three lefty trolls.

I’m a lefty troll :(

lorien1973 on April 10, 2009 at 8:11 PM

I think she’s taken some hits, but nothing from which she can’t recover. She should put the shoulder to the grindstone and get things done in Alaska, work quietly on developing some reliable political connections in the GOP by campaigning for select candidates and causes, and look for opportunities to be leader in energy issues and a student in foreign policy issues.

In terms of her image, they can sling all the mud at her that they want, she’s still a dynamic presence. People respond to her direct, genuine style. I do agree with someone (on a thread a while back either here or at Ace, I think) who suggested that she would benefit from some coaching on her speech patterns. It’s just a fact of life that there’s still a bias in much of the country against regional accents and the over-use of colloquialisms, so it would benefit her to be able to turn that “off” in certain speaking engagements.

Y-not on April 10, 2009 at 8:12 PM

She just needs to study a copy of Levin’s Liberty & tyranny and she’ll be fine

Iblis on April 10, 2009 at 8:12 PM

She just needs to work more on shoring up her positions on national issues and on dealing with a hostile media–both are tasks that she is more than capable of accomplishing. The first, by reading, observing, and communicating with and learning from such individuals as Bolton, Sowell, and others. As for the second, unfortunately, the only way to learn to deal with that is through experience–and sadly, she’s getting more than enough of that–and she is improving.

The 2008 model Palin was a speedy roadster, but it really wasn’t ready for rollout at that time–she still needed some work before going into full production. I’m confident that the 2012 Palin will be ready to take off and leave that Pantywaist model Obama behind in the dust.

Matt Helm on April 10, 2009 at 8:12 PM

Again, I like her, she’s the ONLY reason I voted McCain last time…but I think she’s done as far as the Presidency goes.

changer1701 on April 10, 2009 at 8:07 PM

Depends on how bad things get over the next 4 years…all indications are this country is going to be a mess. But yeah, the MSM/Left ‘Dan Quayled’ her big time. They gave her political destruction #1 priority. So, it will be a while, if ever. I hope the MSM destroyed enough of their own credibility in this process, that it will backfire on them in a few years.

AUINSC on April 10, 2009 at 8:13 PM

She just needs to study a copy of Levin’s Liberty & tyranny and she’ll be fine

Iblis on April 10, 2009 at 8:12 PM

I hope our future President is a tad bit more prepared. After O, we will need some really great ideas to get us out of this hOle.

Upstater85 on April 10, 2009 at 8:13 PM

So Marion Barry can smoke crack…and get re-elected …
but Sarah’s career is gone because they say so?!!!
If you let the MSM define the question, the answer is already a given.

JoeAvg on April 10, 2009 at 8:14 PM

So Marion Barry can smoke crack…and get re-elected …
but Sarah’s career is gone because they say so?!!!
If you let the MSM define the question, the answer is already a given.

JoeAvg on April 10, 2009 at 8:14 PM

I hate to say it, but, consider the constituency.

HornetSting on April 10, 2009 at 8:16 PM

The reason that Palin has the negatives that she does right now is a function of what happened after her selection, not who she is. By which I mean, she took McCain’s “fight, fight, fight” seriously and was the front man for every criticism of Obama.

Unfortunately for her, she was given no covering fire during or after that by the McCain camp. Instead she was cast as a loose cannon at odds with the McCain strategy of a dignified loss.

This “damage” to her political career (assuming she has higher executive ambitions) is temporary. Any campaign that is run with her at the top of the ticket will be run on her terms. Her negatives are not anything to be alarmed at, at this stage.

Spirit of 1776 on April 10, 2009 at 5:17 PM

I’ll add one further comment. Ironically, the portrayal of her that has caused this negative impression could slingshot her. I’m not saying it will, nor am I saying it is likely, but it is absolutely possible.

If the country disapproves of Obama long-term and if they find their press culpable in their behavior, independents (who are the only relevant concern wrt negatives) will take her negatives and turn them into a slight positive.

Frankly, the American people love to reframe their opinions. Brittney Spears is an example.

Spirit of 1776 on April 10, 2009 at 8:16 PM

. (Latest chapter in the Levi/Palin feud: Sarahcuda insists that “over my dead body” would Johnston have been allowed to live with Bristol in their home.)

Not a good idea for a major politician to get in a public fight with a 19 year old boy, particularly with a little snot nosed one with a dufus name like Levi.

I don’t know how the politician, any politician, can win one like that.

Kind of like some variation of that old adage, “When you argue with a fool, you have two fools arguing”.

MB4 on April 10, 2009 at 8:16 PM

Can Gov. Palin salvage her career? That’s rich coming from the media who should ask, “Can we, the media, save face?”

SouthernGent on April 10, 2009 at 8:17 PM

How does that saying go? There’s no such thing as bad publicity?

We’ll see how it plays out, she’s got about 3 years before primaries for the next election warm up.

Daemonocracy on April 10, 2009 at 8:18 PM

I am not even sure that it was anonymous sniping from the McCain people, I kind of got the impression that little dweeb from Fox, Carl Cameron was just flapping his gums. It was like tattle tale tattle tale. I like Fox, but sometimes they tend to get a little carried away with the gotcha stuff.

I think Palin has a future. At the very least she could run for Senate. If Ted Kennedy could survive, anyone could.

Terrye on April 10, 2009 at 8:18 PM

They tried writing Reagan off too.

Terrye on April 10, 2009 at 8:19 PM

That’s not an endorsement of everything she’s done, or said; all pols stumble from time to time. It’s just not as critical as the myopic view would suggest.

Spirit of 1776 on April 10, 2009 at 8:19 PM

OMG – aiming for the ultimate Trollbait thread. Maybe the holiday weekend or exhaustion will limit the total posts… If this had been tried a few days ago, I think it could have gone into 5 digits.

CK MacLeod on April 10, 2009 at 8:20 PM

MB4:

If that were true, what would happen to blog comment sections? Allah would not make any money at all.

I think Palin should probably try to ignore Levi. But then again the media should ignore him too.

Terrye on April 10, 2009 at 8:21 PM

BTW – my opinion – none of this stuff matters one bit. All that matters is how she handles herself if and when she decides to make a national bid.

CK MacLeod on April 10, 2009 at 8:22 PM

I think Palin should probably try to ignore Levi. But then again the media should ignore him too.

Terrye on April 10, 2009 at 8:21 PM

Yeah, I’m not sure there is a perfect way to handle a question about the situations at a presser. If she had refused to answer, the media would nail her for that…. “What does she have to hide?”

Y-not on April 10, 2009 at 8:22 PM

Probably not. The media had to destroy her, because of what she represents.

And it may be that the America she represents is gone and buried. Certainly, with our embrace of socialism and international weakness, we are acting like it.

blue13326 on April 10, 2009 at 8:22 PM

I have no doubt sarah will be proudly follow in the footsteps of GOP female role models such as michelle bachmann and katherine harris, and I support her 100%.

benny shakar on April 10, 2009 at 8:23 PM

Remember everyone. It’s Good Friday. Hold your tempers.

Y-not on April 10, 2009 at 8:26 PM

Oh she can come back!
But she will have to wait until everyone that has seen this is dead.
Perhaps she can run as a Futurama style cryogenically preserved head in the 22nd century?

strangelet on April 10, 2009 at 8:28 PM

hahahahahahahahahahaha

faraway on April 10, 2009 at 8:30 PM

Remember everyone. It’s Good Friday. Hold your tempers.

Y-not on April 10, 2009 at 8:26 PM

What? Why? I don’t remember anything in the Bible about acting like a jerk the rest of the year, but being docile on Good Friday…and even if that’s what it said, there are a lot of non-Christians here. Just worry about yourself. How about that?

capitalist piglet on April 10, 2009 at 8:31 PM

Option three is there mainly for our three lefty trolls.

I resent that, Allah. I admire Sarah Palin for the fact that she, in contrast to to certain prominent female Dems, has made it in politics without the help of her husband or a wealthy and well-connected family. Even so, I tend to think her future in national politics is limited. That’s not a lefty position, that’s just reality.

For what it’s worth, I’d love to be proven wrong.

Infidoll on April 10, 2009 at 8:35 PM

I don’t see that either the punk Levi or the rap have anything to do with Palin’s political career. It’s just noise.

That said, I’m not a huge fan of hers, and I think she’s as centrist as the next McCainiac…

E L Frederick (Sniper One) on April 10, 2009 at 8:37 PM

Can Sarah come back from WHAT?

I reject the premise of the poll. Sarah is doing just fine. LEAVE HER ALONE!!!

Hal-9000 on April 10, 2009 at 8:37 PM

I’m still waiting for a valid, rather than half-baked, explanation how a video by an absolute piece of trash like Eminem diminishes Palin. If that theory is meritorious, then all that would need to be done is for the entire drug-addled felon rap community to come up with a “we are the world” anti-Palin song and she’s toast. In other words, the lefties lowest on the food chain–every parent’s worst nightmare–can work to control the debate?? This is the state of our country? Politics altered by Snoop Dog, Ludacris, and a few other guys a hair or two from death row?? Someone please tell me this is a joke.

Erich66 on April 10, 2009 at 8:38 PM

capitalist piglet on April 10, 2009 at 8:31 PM

I think Ynot was just adding some jocularity.
And if not, it’s good advice everyday.

JoeAvg on April 10, 2009 at 8:39 PM

Palin’s career is fine in three important senses:
(1) Despite all the shit that’s been slung at her, she’s probably going to coast to reelection (no small feat for someone who only got 49% of the popular vote in 2006)
(2) She, today, would probably win the GOP presidential nomination.
(3) She’s close to a lock to be elected to a US Senate seat if she serves two terms as Gov and opts not to run for president.

Last time I checked, being a two-term Governor and possibly winning either a US Senate seat or the nomination of your party for president hardly qualified you as a political failure.

Palin’s career is not fine in the sense that it means she could win enough of the independents and weak Democrats necessary for a Republican to win a presidential election. In order to actually win a presidential election, Gov. Palin needs to pass “the national security threshold” and she needs to convince enough voters in the middle that she will represent their interests in the White House. The biggest problem with the press coverage she gets is the fact that it drowns out any other conversation about Gov. Palin’s ideas and vision for America. If you’re someone in the middle who’s at the very least open to Palin, you’re not going to be persuaded that she’s going to keep you safe and steward an environment of general prosperity if all you’re hearing about is Bristol, Levi, or seeing that doggone turkey video.

Her speech next week is important for turning the conversation back to issues, ideas, and vision.

Robert_Paulson on April 10, 2009 at 8:39 PM

capitalist piglet on April 10, 2009 at 8:31 PM

Lighten up Francis.

thomasaur on April 10, 2009 at 8:40 PM

She needs to spend the next 18 months hitting the books

Huh? What books and for what reason. Sarah is vastly more educated than apparently you give her credit for.

Hal-9000 on April 10, 2009 at 8:41 PM

LOL. Palin just needs to keep breathing. Barry and The Crew will take care of the rest. As the Donkey sinks in the East Sarah will rise in the west.

The coming “malaise” speeches from Barry, in a sweater in sitting in his chilly 75d office, will be enough to polish Sarah’s star.

Limerick on April 10, 2009 at 8:42 PM

She just needs to study a copy of Levin’s Liberty & tyranny and she’ll be fine

Iblis on April 10, 2009 at 8:12 PM

Regardless of how you feel about Levin (I’m not all that fond of him, but to be fair, I haven’t read his latest yet), I would certainly hope our next standard bearer would be a little better read.

I would recommend, at the least:

1) Hans Morgenthau: Politics Among Nations

2) Barry Goldwater: Conscience of a Conservative

3) Buckley and Goldwater: Up From Liberalism

4) Kenneth Waltz: Man, The State, and War and,

5) Theory of International Politics

6) Robert Bork: Slouching Towards Gommorah

7) Milton Friedman: Capitalism and Freedom and,

8) Free To Choose

9) John Locke: Two Treatises

10) Nicolo Machiavelli: The Prince and,

11) Discourses

There’s a lot more I could list, but off the top of my head, and considering the glaring weak points she demonstrated during the campaign, these should give her a solid base from which to discuss both foreign policy and right-wing thought.

JohnGalt23 on April 10, 2009 at 8:43 PM

If you loved her after the convention speech, and the media onslaught didn’t change your mind (my camp), then nothing probably ever will. If you hated her from convention speech forward, then you are even more entrenched in your position than I am. But if you loved her after the convention and then allowed the Gibson/Couric/general media propaganda change your opinion of her, then congratulations, you are the group of people who I blame the election of BO on. Suckers. Let me guess, you don’t go see any films unless some retard lib critic gives it 4 stars first either…

Kataklysmic on April 10, 2009 at 8:44 PM

She just needs to work more on shoring up her positions on national issues and on dealing with a hostile media–both are tasks that she is more than capable of accomplishing. The first, by reading, observing, and communicating with and learning from such individuals as Bolton, Sowell, and others. As for the second, unfortunately, the only way to learn to deal with that is through experience–and sadly, she’s getting more than enough of that–and she is improving.

The 2008 model Palin was a speedy roadster, but it really wasn’t ready for rollout at that time–she still needed some work before going into full production. I’m confident that the 2012 Palin will be ready to take off and leave that Pantywaist model Obama behind in the dust.

Matt Helm on April 10, 2009 at 8:12 PM

She got in trouble in 2008 by not having clearly-thought-out positions on foreign policy, and giving too many one-on-one interviews with MSM types out to destroy her, who left her best answers on the cutting-room floor.

She needs to clarify her positions on lots of issues, and put this Levi Johnston story to bed, but she has plenty of time, and she’s still young. She also needs to, as others have said, put her nose to the grindstone in Alaska, and show everyone what a competent Governor she is.

She will have two major advantages going into 2012–she won’t be saddled with McCain (he’ll be too old to run again) and with President Bush (Obama’s main issue was being a “change” from Bush). By 2012, any Republican running will be a candidate of “change” from Obama, which will probably look GOOD then.

Sarah Palin caught a lot of flak in the 2008 campaign for calling Obama a “socialist”. After less than three months of the Obama Presidency, voters in the middle are probably looking at Obama’s wild spending, trying to take over GM and banks, and maybe saying “Hmmm…Sarah Palin was right–Obama IS a socialist!”

Sarah Palin in 2008 was a diamond in the rough–with a little polishing, she could shine in 2012. Her best days are still ahead of her.

Steve Z on April 10, 2009 at 8:44 PM

Palin has been subject to such a ferocious short term attack by both the press and pop culture (what really matters) that she has to do something drastic to stop the blood loss.

They are terrified of someone like her and what she cold represent for the conservative movement that nothing is off limits.

DJ Rick on April 10, 2009 at 8:44 PM

My comment on Fox:

Palin is going to do just fine, because the Left is making their classic blunder — like getting into a land war in Asia or going in against a Sicilian when death is on the line — because they are wasting their time and effort driving down her poll numbers at a time when her poll numbers just don’t matter. At best, Palin is a distraction. People are fixated on the slow-motion train wreck that is the Obama administration.

By the time 2011 rolls around, people are going to be so tired of the wheezing, chugging machinery dedicated to the destruction of Sarah Palin that they are not going to be listening anymore. At a time when they really need to sink her numbers, they will have blunted all of their weapons, and Palin will do just fine.

The Left has to get validation from the polls every day. The Conservatives know that you get validation at the voting booth, and the other 354 days of the year don’t matter.

This is why we are going to clean their clocks in 2010, and Sarah Palin will be elected President in 2012.

gridlock2 on April 10, 2009 at 8:45 PM


LOL. Palin just needs to keep breathing. Barry and The Crew will take care of the rest. As the Donkey sinks in the East Sarah will rise in the west.

Oh for the love of mike… Palin is not the virgin mother for chrisstakes… She’s no more rising in the east than the Oba-messiah will have a gilded halo in his photos (without photoshop).

E L Frederick (Sniper One) on April 10, 2009 at 8:45 PM

Erich66 on April 10, 2009 at 8:38 PM

If we need to wait for a candidate who isn’t absolutely trashed in the vilest terms by the other side and assorted prigs, imbeciles, nuts, and pathological narcissists desperate for attention – not to mention pathological narcissist imbecile prigs – then we might as well quit politics.

CK MacLeod on April 10, 2009 at 8:45 PM

Someone please tell me this is a joke.

Erich66 on April 10, 2009 at 8:38 PM

AllahP’s point is that Palin is a joke. Eminem and Tina Fey have made her into a national punchline.
Can someone come back from that?

strangelet on April 10, 2009 at 8:46 PM

The more tabloid nonsense posted in and gloated about washes in with the news tide HotAir, the more it erodes her HotAir’s credibility.

FIFY

Allahpundit = FoxNews/Enimem/ChubbyMcCain/AndiSullivan

Blake on April 10, 2009 at 8:46 PM

Remember everyone. It’s Good Friday. Hold your tempers.

.
What the H does that mean? Good Friday – Good Monday Morning? I reject ‘Good Friday’ so I’ll exhibit any emotion I wish – your permission is not needed!

Hal-9000 on April 10, 2009 at 8:46 PM

Remember everyone. It’s Good Friday. Hold your tempers.

Didn’t seem to be all that good a day for Christ… seems a bit ironic don’t you think that the day he was tortured to death would be called “Good Friday”.

At least the stock market crash got a black Tuesday…

E L Frederick (Sniper One) on April 10, 2009 at 8:48 PM

E L Frederick (Sniper One) on April 10, 2009 at 8:45 PM

Mike who?

Seriously, I don’t give a rat’s patudy if Sarah gets the nod in 2012 or not. Barry and The Crew have a good start on bringing the Republicans back from the dead. Wow…maybe Lazarus would be available to run?

Limerick on April 10, 2009 at 8:49 PM

FIFY

Allahpundit = FoxNews/Enimem/ChubbyMcCain/AndiSullivan

Blake on April 10, 2009 at 8:46 PM

Lighten up.

AUINSC on April 10, 2009 at 8:50 PM

I think Allahpundit should concentrate on linking gay prepubescent elephant news. Everyone should have a niche.

Blake on April 10, 2009 at 8:50 PM

maybe Lazarus would be available to run?

Limerick on April 10, 2009 at 8:49 PM

Couldn’t do worse than the current joker…

E L Frederick (Sniper One) on April 10, 2009 at 8:50 PM

Lighten up.

AUINSC on April 10, 2009 at 8:50 PM

You first.

Blake on April 10, 2009 at 8:52 PM

Huh? What books and for what reason. Sarah is vastly more educated than apparently you give her credit for.

Hal-9000 on April 10, 2009 at 8:41 PM

As far as what books, see above.

As far as her vast education, she certainly didn’t demonstrate it last time around. Not being able to name court decisions you disagree with outside Roe, not having a well-defined view of US grand strategies, not being able to name what publications you regularly read… none of this speaks well to her political education.

I don’t hold that against her… such expertise and opinions never were necessary until she stepped on the national stage, and she didn’t have time to prepare.

But this time she does, and she had better. I like her reasonably well, but I for one will have little patience for a candidate who can’t effectively articulate a view on grand strategies, on her influences, and on where she thinks conservatism ought to go while it takes the nation along with it.

JohnGalt23 on April 10, 2009 at 8:53 PM

I am a Palin supporter but was a little bit torn between options 1 and 2. I do think she needs to do things differently, but that is more the fact that she is being held back from her current status as an incumbent governor.

She does need to brush up on foreign affairs, and I am sure she is working overtime doing just that. Reagan didn’t know foreign affairs at first either. The current situation with N. Korea will probably allow her to have some input.

I did end up picking option 1, as I think she is fine where she is, provided she is running her own campaign in 4 years and not Nicolle Wallace. She has work to do, but she knows it and she is up to the challenge.

doug1981 on April 10, 2009 at 8:53 PM

Allah put some chum in the water. Let the feeding frenzy begin. Gonna get ugly.

Greed on April 10, 2009 at 8:54 PM

Palin gave a great speech following her nomination in which she told the MSM that she didn’t care what they thought of her, she was her own person. She had the world by the tail. She could have blown off the networks and the NY Times, appeared on Fox and conservative talk radio to get out her message of competence and experience fighting the “good old boys” and never looked back.

But after a few days of jeering by the MSM that she was dodging questions, she [or more likely, her McCain handlers] caved and agreed to the Couric interviews, got all painted up, and let the CBS edit crew splice together the worst possible image of her, while the MSM tore her to pieces. What a shame.

It’s hard to say what would have happened if she had called her own shots; I’ve got to believe the incompetence of the McCain campaign had a lot to do with her mishandling. But who knows? I’d like to see her present her case without McCain’s interference — then we’ll know.

capitano on April 10, 2009 at 8:54 PM

LOL. Palin just needs to keep breathing. Barry and The Crew will take care of the rest. As the Donkey sinks in the East Sarah will rise in the west.

The coming “malaise” speeches from Barry, in a sweater in sitting in his chilly 75d office, will be enough to polish Sarah’s star.

Limerick on April 10, 2009 at 8:42 PM

Love this!
As always, Limerick gives us the voice of seasoned logic and humor!

Jenfidel on April 10, 2009 at 8:54 PM

Can someone come back from that?

strangelet on April 10, 2009 at 8:46 PM

Were you born yesterday? Do yourself a favor and review the press coverage of both Bushes, Bill Clinton, Ronald Reagan, Richard Nixon, to name a few of the recent “national jokes” who went on to win presidential elections, in some cases landslides. Clinton left the presidency with an approval rating higher than Obama’s current numbers, after the stained dress, the finger wag, the Starr report, not to mention Paula Jones, Gennifer Flowers and on and on and on… not to mention Vince Foster, Whitewater, the list goes on, and on, and on…

It didn’t start in the modern era, either, and it won’t end until we’ve gotten rid of human nature. Hitler, Mao, Stalin, and Julius effin Caesar were all “national jokes,” too. Enough…

CK MacLeod on April 10, 2009 at 8:55 PM

Oh, cut Y-not a break. You knew the sentiment he was trying to convey. I’m not impressed by the hitchens wannabe acts.

Blake on April 10, 2009 at 8:55 PM

I repeat MUST win reelection.

I disagree with this. Winning reelection serves no purpose except to prove she can win reelection. If she is still beating most other candidates by 25 to 30 points at the end of this year, that is good enough. In that case, she should not run for reelection and establish herself nationwide. If she were in the lower 48 I’d say go for reelection. But not with Alaska.

doug1981 on April 10, 2009 at 8:57 PM

Allah, your obsession in tearing this woman down it getting old.

KBird on April 10, 2009 at 8:58 PM

Enough…

CK MacLeod on April 10, 2009 at 8:55 PM

The problem is viral video and the flattening of information.
Those old wide-boyz didnt have to deal to deal with that.
Palin’s signal gets swamped in SNL noise, for example.

strangelet on April 10, 2009 at 8:59 PM

She will be fine in what ever she decides to do politically. We need fighters like Gov. Palin on the national stage to kick President Pantywaist in the ass when he steps out of line.

Clyde5445 on April 10, 2009 at 9:00 PM

Not being able to name court decisions you disagree with outside Roe,

Ever think that she hated the woman interviewing her? Have you read the transcript of that interview? Have you seen how many times Couric asked her about Abortion?

If she wanted to simply comply and answer the question, she could have mentioned the Dred Scott Decision or something like that. It’s obvious that she was not going to comply with the interview. Get real.

doug1981 on April 10, 2009 at 9:01 PM

Palin’s career is not fine in the sense that it means she could win enough of the independents and weak Democrats

In the recent (flawed, they overweighed Democrats by an insane amount) poll that had Obama beating Palin by 20 points, one detail of that poll was that Obama held only a 4 point advantage against Palin among independents.

Independents are running from Obama in droves.

doug1981 on April 10, 2009 at 9:05 PM

AllahP’s point is that Palin is a joke. Eminem and Tina Fey have made her into a national punchline.
Can someone come back from that?

strangelet on April 10, 2009 at 8:46 PM

Wow, I had no idea Palin’s political career hinged on rappers and bad comics. Why don’t we see what Scooby Doo and George Jetson have to say about her?

Erich66 on April 10, 2009 at 9:05 PM

She should stick to Alaska.

AbaddonsReign on April 10, 2009 at 9:06 PM

pop culture (what really matters)

No, it doesn’t. Those people don’t vote.

doug1981 on April 10, 2009 at 9:07 PM

When she starts speaking – out the window goes all the attacks, the Tina Feyisms

To me anyway

EricPWJohnson on April 10, 2009 at 9:08 PM

doug1981 on April 10, 2009 at 8:57 PM

If you are suggesting that she not run for reelection, that is a dangerous game to play. It opens her up to all type of charges (doesn’t have the stomach for politics, was afraid of losing, was only a one-term governor, etc.) Granted, it allows her to run nationwide without having to attend to affairs of state. But when going for the big brass ring, you’d better be able to say “I can win elections”. Refusing to run for reelection takes that weapon out of her arsenal.

But I was referring to if she runs for reelection, she must win. If she fails to do that, she gets tagged as loser. And then her career really is over.

Unless of course she is Nixon. And I wouldn’t wish that curse on a Democrat, much less a Republican.

JohnGalt23 on April 10, 2009 at 9:08 PM

Not being able to name court decisions you disagree with outside Roe, not having a well-defined view of US grand strategies, not being able to name what publications you regularly read… none of this speaks well to her political education.

JohnGalt23 on April 10, 2009 at 8:53 PM

Oh, bull! All it proves is that she was not prepared to answer those questions. I have read most of the USSC cases but couldn’t off the top of my head give you a name besides Roe. And she doesn’t read publications — she uses a clipping service. I don’t read any publications regularly. I read anything I want on the internet when I want to. I’d be hard pressed to name a publication.

Blake on April 10, 2009 at 9:08 PM

LOL. Palin just needs to keep breathing. Barry and The Crew will take care of the rest. As the Donkey sinks in the East Sarah will rise in the west.

The coming “malaise” speeches from Barry, in a sweater in sitting in his chilly 75d office, will be enough to polish Sarah’s star.

Limerick on April 10, 2009 at 8:42 PM

Love this!
As always, Limerick gives us the voice of seasoned logic and humor!

Jenfidel on April 10, 2009 at 8:54 PM

Agreed. The 2010 Alaska gubernatorial election is the first re-set button for Palin — if she wins a new term, especially if it’s in a landslide, the media either has to adjust their spin or come right out and insult all of the state’s voters as being knuckle-dragging, inbred troglodyes. If the economy’s still dismal and/or we’ve got new foreign conflicts to worry about, having the media call any voters stupid or childish (a la Peter Jennings in 1994) for not following their game-plan and rejecting Sarah isn’t going to play well across the entire country.

After that, her 2012 viability is based on what Obama does over the next 18 months; if in 2011-12 he’s making the competence of Jimmy Carter’s administration look by comparison like the Allied forces’ preparations for Normandy, then all they and the media are left with is trying to use the same warmed over scare tactics they tried against Reagan in 1980, since their credibility with swing voters on Barack (and by inference, on anyone who opposes Barack in ‘12) will be totally gone.

jon1979 on April 10, 2009 at 9:08 PM

Wow, I had no idea Palin’s political career hinged on rappers and bad comics. Why don’t we see what Scooby Doo and George Jetson have to say about her?

+1

doug1981 on April 10, 2009 at 9:09 PM

you’d better be able to say “I can win elections”

The polling is enough. If the polls are a blowout that is just as good.

But I was referring to if she runs for reelection, she must win.

On this, you are 100% right.

doug1981 on April 10, 2009 at 9:11 PM

doug1981 on April 10, 2009 at 9:05 PM

Hmmmmm. I did not know that. It just goes to underline the notion that we are in a very fluid political environment right now. Many voters opinions are not very fixed, which means if Palin’s bringing her ‘A’ game, she potentially can reach them.

Robert_Paulson on April 10, 2009 at 9:17 PM

sure id like to hear more of her personal policy ideas….

but she is fine…the base loves her…the left fears her…she has charisma, intelligence, determination and so much more…

alexraye on April 10, 2009 at 9:17 PM

The problem is viral video and the flattening of information.
Those old wide-boyz didnt have to deal to deal with that.
Palin’s signal gets swamped in SNL noise, for example.

strangelet on April 10, 2009 at 8:59 PM

No, the main difference now is that there’s a lot more media noise, meaning that any particular story or event is more likely to get buried under the latest wave of info-vomit. As for now, Palin isn’t even trying to give much of a signal. If and when she chooses to have second act on the national stage, the old Youtubes won’t matter – they’ll represent a tiny fraction of the total story.

Obama bowing to Abdullah, then having his minions lie about it, is a much bigger gaffe than anything Palin’s ever done or said – and won’t matter unless he dies the death of a thousand political cuts AND he and his policies are seen to have failed.

CK MacLeod on April 10, 2009 at 9:18 PM

very fluid political environment right now

Exactly. Many of the people who broke for Obama were VERY soft supporters. Which is why I say 2012 will be a very close race if Obama is mediocre. If he turns out to be like Carter, expect a 40+ state landslide for the GOP.

doug1981 on April 10, 2009 at 9:22 PM

AllahP’s point is that Palin is a joke. Eminem and Tina Fey have made her into a national punchline.
Can someone come back from that?

strangelet on April 10, 2009 at 8:46 PM

Britney Spears

Amadeus on April 10, 2009 at 9:22 PM

doug1981 on April 10, 2009 at 9:01 PM

Get real.

Let’s just start off by saying I’m not the one being a Palinbot. I am interested in having a candidate who knows where she wants to take the party and the nation, not someone I can blindly worship.

Ever think that she hated the woman interviewing her?

Hey, I hate the woman who was interviewing her too. That doesn’t change the fact that I could, immediately, name Kelo v. New London, the Slaughterhouse cases, and Raich v. Gonzales as cases I disagree with, and why I disagree with them.

If she wanted to simply comply and answer the question, she could have mentioned the Dred Scott Decision or something like that. It’s obvious that she was not going to comply with the interview.

If she could have, then why didn’t she? Just to establish that she didn’t like the interviewer?

That’s amateur politics right there. In order to demonstrate her distaste she opened up herself to criticism (of anyone who isn’t a Palinbot) that she didn’t know the answer. I don’t buy that lame excuse for a second.

I apply Occam’s razor in situations like this, and look for the simplest explanation. And the simplest explanation is she didn’t know what to say.

JohnGalt23 on April 10, 2009 at 9:24 PM

Oh, bull! All it proves is that she was not prepared to answer those questions.

Blake on April 10, 2009 at 9:08 PM

And therein lies the problem. Many people, myself included, think our political leaders (i.e, people who propose themselves as our leaders on matters of government and politics) should be able to answer questions like that. I’m no big Romney fan, but I’ve no doubt he could manage an intelligent sounding answer to that question.

Infidoll on April 10, 2009 at 9:25 PM

The attacks on this woman are unprecedented in history as far as my knowledge of vice presidential candidates goes. When a candidate with her resume and track record cannot be treated with respect, then something has gone very wrong with people who consider themselves fair and enlightened disseminators of news and information. Although behavior on the media part is not entirely unprecedented it is in intensity, maliciousness, dishonesty, malice of forethought and attacks on every aspect of her family life is a new tactic. The opposition has enough support and cheerleading to poison the well so the water will never be used.

rsl775 on April 10, 2009 at 9:25 PM

Quite frankly, the ones who say no, have just bought into the MSM dissing of Palin…proof that it works.
Here is the most popular Gov of a state…with over a 80% rating year after year, and the only ones that really dislike her are the hard core dems…down here where we do not “know” her, but only through stories in the paper, a much lower rating…what is the difference?
Only the day to day stories fed to us.
She will be one of the ones most talked about in the future. She will be showcased as a perfect example of how the MSM can change and twist the mind of so many weak people.
So many people say “I make up my own mind” then I listen to their arguments…”I can see Russia from my porch” or “The ol Africa is a country”, both which never happened…so easy to fool a weak mind.
And some, just don’t like her good looks…
So easy to fool and change a weak mind…I have never heard a good logical argument against Palin, without it being tainted by some “folktale” or some insult to her looks, or “you betcha”…so easy to fool a weak mind.

Case in point posted right here:

Not being able to name court decisions you disagree with outside Roe, not having a well-defined view of US grand strategies, not being able to name what publications you regularly read… none of this speaks well to her political education.

JohnGalt23 on April 10, 2009 at 8:53 PM

So easy to trick a weak mind…this guy actually thinks that Palin doesn’t know what publications she reads…so easy to fool a weak mind, thanks for the proof.
Palin doesn’t know what she reads….hahahahaha! And what the heck is US Grand Strategies?

right2bright on April 10, 2009 at 9:26 PM

Palin can be successful but only if she surround herself with top Washington power players who can help guide and develop Sarah as a national figure.

Palin’s distrust of Washington insiders has left her relying on her Alaskan crew that hurt more than they help Sarah. If she wants to be taken seriously, she needs to put competency over loyalty when it comes to her inner circle to survive politically.

Christina_M on April 10, 2009 at 9:27 PM

AllahP’s point is that Palin is a joke.

BTW if she’s such a joke, why does AP keep throwing up posts and stories about her, including three today alone? Nobody’s asking him to do this, and it’s not as if she’s heavily involved in the national scene these days.

Erich66 on April 10, 2009 at 9:28 PM

Palin has the pro-life market sewn up. Unfortunately, any other Republican will as long as Hopey McAbortionLover is the Dems nominee.

Speedwagon82 on April 10, 2009 at 9:30 PM

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