Glenn Beck screams at Obama: Why don’t you just set us on fire?

posted at 7:14 pm on April 9, 2009 by Allahpundit

Inside Cable News calls this an Olbermann moment. It isn’t, exactly — Olby takes his Special Comments way too seriously to indulge in the sort of shtick with gasoline that Beck tries here — but it’s close enough. We’re not even three months into Obama’s term and already he’s screaming on air. How’s he going to deal with another three-plus years? What’s especially weird is the instant transition from light-hearted sight gag to seething outrage. Either he’s acting or his mind is … highly nuanced. Watch Bill Schulz try to stay in character as the drama unfolds.

As for amnesty, former McCain ad man Mark McKinnon thinks it’s a master stroke by Obama to pursue it now since the GOP backlash will ensure even more Hispanic support for the Democrats during the midterms. Doesn’t that depend on whether the Democratic Congress kills it or not?


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Glenn is wonderful!

Cinday Blackburn on April 10, 2009 at 12:14 PM

AS IF bankrupting America isn’t enough,
AS IF dismissing Constitutional Rule of Law isn’t enough,
AS IF “legalizing” illegal aliens isn’t enough,
OBAMA IS LEGALIZING PIRACY.

Can’t wait to enjoy Beck’s outrage.
Right On!

maverick muse on April 10, 2009 at 12:15 PM

I thought he’d be a better President than McCain. I still think I made the right choice.

Would McCain have signed onto a pork-filled, “stimulus” package? Probably not, or at the very least he would have forced a reduction.

Would he have apologized to Europe and bowed down to a Saudi dictator? Absolutely not.

Would he have shot down the North Korean missile? Likely.

Would he have sucked up to the Russians and backed down on missile defense? Emphatically no….McCain actually understands the threat Russia still is.

Would he have filled his cabinet with tax cheats? I doubt it, although we might have seen a few Clinton cronies sneak in.

Would he have proposed some kind of federal spending freeze? Maybe, even though it had a snowball’s chance in hell of actually happening.

Would he have pushed for a reduction or elimination of the capital gains tax, which would have actually stimulated the economy? Yes, but again…with a Democratic Congress it wasn’t gonna happen.

Would he have pushed for amnesty for illegals? Probably not but he would have signed it not knowing that it’s a nothing but a vote-buying scheme for the Democrats.

Not that it really matters what with the lunatics now in charge of the insane asylum that is Congress…but no, I don’t think you made the right choice.

TheMightyMonarch on April 10, 2009 at 12:18 PM

Not if you’re a guy, moron. I assumed you to be a guy with all your giddy talk about “tea-baggin’”.

RepubChica on April 10, 2009 at 12:03 PM

lol, most of america knows the meaning of teabagging.
You Juggalos are constantly demonstrating how clueless and culturally out of touch you are.
Someone give Michael Steele a hookup to teh UD stat!

strangelet on April 10, 2009 at 12:19 PM

Proud Rino on April 10, 2009 at 11:59 AM

I’m not unhinged, thankyouverymuch. I’m just sick and tired of my representatives in Washington (and Richmond) not listening to their constituents.

Don’t tell me, Mr. Rino, that you’ve never uttered a sound at your television. It does not make one unhinged to verbally react to something they’ve seen/heard – it makes us human.

Chort.

Anna on April 10, 2009 at 12:19 PM

suzyk on April 9, 2009 at 7:23 PM

Ya gotta understand Suzyk, AP just does that because he knows it will rile people up and create a nice long thread with lots of ad hits.

AP’s just doing his thing. It’s ok, just shrug it off and enjoy the toasty flame fest.

:)

wearyman on April 10, 2009 at 12:41 PM

Really late to this thread, but just checked over at LGF for a laugh and they are really trashing Beck. I can’t really comment too much on Glen because I haven’t heard him very much. Seems to like to use a lot of drama to prove his point. LGF seems to be going a bit over-board on this. I wouldn’t care as much if they weren’t also attacking the tea parties. What gives with them? Might as well go to Kos!

sandee on April 10, 2009 at 12:51 PM

I watched this live and re-watched it on my DVR. It was HILARIOUS. I am glad that Foxnews is now repeating his show at 2 AM eastern time. I actually have his 5 pm show on my DVR. I never heard of him before he came to fox. He is more of an independent thinker than Hannity. I have been a Hannity fan since 1995 when I lived in Atlanta, but he does get monotonous. Glenn Beck is a breath of fresh air and perspective.

karenhasfreedom on April 10, 2009 at 12:52 PM

I wouldn’t care as much if they weren’t also attacking the tea parties

Charles is pretty savy.
I bet he knows what teabagging is.

strangelet on April 10, 2009 at 12:58 PM

Charles was an axeman, you know.
He played backup for Steely Dan back in the day.
I bet you juggalos don’t much like his take on the clown posse at the Discovery Institute either.
;)

strangelet on April 10, 2009 at 1:01 PM

Scream away, Glenn, scream away.

Bill Schulz was great. I loved it when he genuflected.

jix on April 10, 2009 at 1:02 PM

Chort.

Anna on April 10, 2009 at 12:19 PM

:)

baldilocks on April 10, 2009 at 1:03 PM

I know I’m going to regret answering back strangelet, but here goes. Charles did have a great blogsite.Something in the last few months has changed over there. He deletes and bans anyone who disagrees with him on evolution,Global warming,and pretty much anyone he deems right-wingers. Seems he is reverting back to his dhimmicrat roots.Yes he was a dhimmi untill 9/11. Just saying.

sandee on April 10, 2009 at 1:08 PM

Hey Juliette, check out this mashup!
Fox has a teabagging problem.

Charles disagreed with the terribots too, and he was right.
The lady-was-a-carrot.
Perhaps Charles is a real republican, instead of an insane partisan clown like Beck.

strangelet on April 10, 2009 at 1:25 PM

K’chertyam sobakim, Juliette.
It’s not too late for you join us….you don’t really want to be a Jugalette do you?

strangelet on April 10, 2009 at 1:29 PM

That would be….”to the hounds of hell”.
Chort means devil in Russian.

strangelet on April 10, 2009 at 1:34 PM

You Juggalos better pay attention.
Who’s the nazi now?

strangelet on April 10, 2009 at 1:50 PM

You Juggalos better pay attention.
Who’s the nazi now?

strangelet on April 10, 2009 at 1:50 PM

There’s nothing sadder than a lonely loser on someone else’s blog, endlessly posting the same stupid insult word in the vain and desperate hope that someone else will decide it’s clever and start using it. It’s like watching an obnoxious weirdo sitting alone in a dark corner at a party and loudly horse-laughing at his own jokes.

What’s even sadder is that Hot Air somehow managed to acquire more than one of you. Why don’t you try a swap with whoever runs the getalife spambot? You agree to call someone a “Becker” if they agree to rewrite the getalife code so it occasionally chirps “Juggalo?”

Doctor Zero on April 10, 2009 at 2:26 PM

I’m late the party, but I thought this bit was hilarious. I didn’t even notice the shouting really. I felt he was echoing the frustration of many in this country. the American people did not vote for Amnesty. Beck is absolutely right when he says Americans voted for something other than the same old double talk and partisanship. America did not vote for these far left policies and they are starting tog et fed up. America wants to like Obama, they want him to do well and they are willing to give him a chance; this is evident in the polls. However, his policies are not what the people of this country want or feel comfortable with and this too is reflected in the polls. Eventually this will catch up with Obama and the spenders in Washington, but hopefully it won’t be too late.

Some people just get too distracted by Beck’s antics and end up face palming instead of actually listening to what he says. Seriously, what did he say that was disagreeable?

Daemonocracy on April 10, 2009 at 2:40 PM

KickandSwimMom on April 9, 2009 at 7:31 PM

And something like 80% of the general population was against TARP I and the Porkulus bills. The politicians don’t seem to care what the people want. They do whatever they think they can get away with and still get reelected.

Al in St. Lou on April 10, 2009 at 2:55 PM

And something like 80% of the general population was against TARP I and the Porkulus bills. The politicians don’t seem to care what the people want.

Those polls are really misleading. Depending on how the question was phrased, people had wildly varying opinions.

But you know what, it doesn’t really matter. We don’t make decisions by referendum, we elect representatives to make those decisions for us. If you don’t like the decisions they make, then throw the bums out, but I expect every politician to make the decision he thinks is best, not the one that’s popular.

If you don’t like it, don’t vote for Obama or Democrats the next time around. That’s how it works in our country.

Proud Rino on April 10, 2009 at 3:04 PM

Doctor Zero on April 10, 2009 at 2:26 PM

You should blame that RINO Baldilocks.
She called Beck a clown an’ that gave meh the idea.

strangelet on April 10, 2009 at 3:08 PM

He deletes and bans anyone who disagrees with him on evolution,Global warming,and pretty much anyone he deems right-wingers.

sandee on April 10, 2009 at 1:08 PM

That’s pretty much what every LGF stalker would have you believe. For all of Charles’ and LGF’s supposed irrelevance, there sure seems to be an awful lot of people talking about it.

Charles deletes comments that reflect poorly on LGF and would be used against him by his critics, usually on the left, to cast LGF, and by extension, all conservatives, as crackpots, warmongers, racists, whatever. What he will delete is pretty well understood, and listed at the top of every comment thread. Any secondary rules, such as links to WND or what have you, will lead to a deletion and a warning or gentle reminder for anyone that posts them.

He bans very few people with no warning, but every one that gets an instant stick deserves it, including previously banned users trying to re-register. The rest are people that don’t listen to warnings, often repeated warnings, about how they act and what they post. Those are frequently trolls or Mobys that are not there to discuss, but to disrupt. For instance, anyone that insists that Charles efforts to expose people and groups trying to push creationism, or its little brother intelligent design, into public school science classes, is simply a crusade against every Christian lizard, are likely to get banned pretty quick. No matter how many times it is said that evolution and Christian faith are not mutually exclusive, there will be somebody that just insists that teaching evolution is some grand scheme to make everyone an atheist. (You know, like the Pope.) They’re almost as bad as the Birchers are with communism.

CyanSnowHawk on April 10, 2009 at 3:12 PM

Ahhhh. It all makes sense then. He’s simply a fu*king clown. Thanks for clearing this up for me.

Dave Rywall on April 9, 2009 at 7:56 PM

Beck has also labeled himself as a Rodeo Clown on the air.

You catch on quick. ;)

Daemonocracy on April 10, 2009 at 3:19 PM

That’s pretty much what every LGF stalker would have you believe. For all of Charles’ and LGF’s supposed irrelevance, there sure seems to be an awful lot of people talking about it.

What I don’t get is how are they stalkers, when it is Charles himself or people like you who seek them out on other sites?

No, LGF is becoming more and more niche. The type of people deemed tolerable on that site shrinks every day. It used to be the hate mongers who would be purged, but now it seems everyone is a “young Earth creationist” or “Bircher”. The John Birch Society? Really? I didn’t even know they were still around, but it seems like everyone is a “bircher” on LGF.

The comments on LGF usually consist of “yes Charles”, “go get ’em Charles!”, “hehe good one Chalres” and “look at me Charles!”

I give AP credit, he seems to take the criticism well and with a sense of humor.

Daemonocracy on April 10, 2009 at 3:32 PM

Questioning LGF now makes one a stalker?It’s worse than I thought at LGF!Talk about mind-numbed robots!

sandee on April 10, 2009 at 3:43 PM

Also, Charles will ban anyone that tries to talk about abortion.
He banned a whole bunch of terribots too at the time.
Its in the rules.
Commenting is a privilege at LGF, not a right.

strangelet on April 10, 2009 at 3:49 PM

Haven’t been there lately, have you Daemonocracy?

No one lives in a bubble and I will occasionally correct a misconception when I come across one. Sandee gave voice to one of those and I felt compelled to refute it.

Don’t know about LGF being niched like you say, but I enjoy it over there. Your characterization of the level of commentary over there is comical and ill-informed.

I like AP as well, he is often a good read.

CyanSnowHawk on April 10, 2009 at 3:51 PM

Wow Charles seems to have his own little band of spies right here.I’ve been immortalized on their blog. Thanks CyanSnowHawk.

sandee on April 10, 2009 at 3:57 PM

Wow Charles seems to have his own little band of spies right here.I’ve been immortalized on their blog. Thanks CyanSnowHawk.

sandee on April 10, 2009 at 3:57 PM

Spies? I registered to comment here during the very first registration period. I have never been advised that coming here to read and comment is forbidden simply because I am also registered at LGF.

Everything CyanSnowHawk said is right on target, especially this:

Charles deletes comments that reflect poorly on LGF and would be used against him by his critics, usually on the left, to cast LGF, and by extension, all conservatives, as crackpots, warmongers, racists, whatever.

I have made no secret there of my religious belief, of my belief in the choice for life, I have had disagreements with some there, and I have not been banned.

I do try to do everything I can to respect Charles’ rules.

Anyone upset about being banned should look to their own behavior, not Charles’.

reine.de.tout on April 10, 2009 at 4:07 PM

It´s not that Beck is wrong – and being essentially right goes a long way – but his clownish ranting will not convince anyone who doesn´t already agree. It´s silly and it will not help to take back the country.

el gordo on April 10, 2009 at 4:24 PM

Look, to all those LGF posters I’ve upset I apologize.I just gave my observations of how I see his blog. It is still a free Country and we are all allowed our opinions.Charles is lucky to have such fierce defenders.

sandee on April 10, 2009 at 4:27 PM

Beck is voicing the frustration of Americans who believe in our Republic, who believe in the Founder’s ideals, principles and values. Yet his dramatic delivery and sincerity have attracted groups like the LGF Lizards who have a hate list all their own. God bless Charles Johnson and his followers, I wish them the best and hope they enjoy their lives. I choose to take Glenn Beck with a grain of salt, and simply TURN THE CHANNEL if I don’t like what I hear. I’d say LGF needs to get a life.

davecatbone on April 10, 2009 at 4:38 PM

Haven’t been there lately, have you Daemonocracy?

I’ve been going there since Memogate. I particularly liked how Charles called out Markos Moulitsas for his “screw them” comment about the slaughtered Black Water Contractors in Fallujah.

But then the Robert Spencer business started and it seems since then, Charles Johnson has become hyperparanoid about being associated with Racists and Conspiracy theorists. Still a decent site to read, as long as you skip the obsessive attacks on the Discovery Institute (who the hell cares who they are, they are insignificant), but it has become a hostile place to comment.

I was actually one of the 7 people banned when I mentioned I liked the book “The 5,000 Year Leap” which I had read before Beck ever talked about it. I have no idea who the author is or what conspiracies he subscribes to, I just said I didn’t find anything crazy in that book. Apparently that was a bannable offense, oops.

Charles Johnson and the community at LGF (following his lead of course) just spend too much time being embarrassed for other Conservatives. Limbaugh – unacceptable. Hannity – Unnacceptable. Beck (more of a Libertarian) – Unacceptable. Sarah Palin – Unacceptable. Laura Ingraham – Unacceptable. Michelle Malkin (oh yes, even Michelle) – Unacceptable. I mean who the hell IS acceptable on that site?

Instead of attacking other conservatives because you don’t like their style, try focusing on the issues that you feel need to be discussed. Try framing the debate yourselves instead of taking pot shots at those who share the same core values as you. Instead of going ape over Glenn Beck, actually listen to what he said and create news of your own. All this talk about “Birchers” and “Young Earthers” and now “Beckians” is pointless and distracting.

Instead of making fun of Beck for his gasoline stunt, focus on the Amnesty, Missile Defense Cutting, 3.5 Trillion dollar budget, Kissing up to Cuba and Overseas apology campaign he actually talked about. Do you not agree with Beck that these are problems and serious issues?

And as for the whole Bircher scare at LGF, what good does this do? It only distracts from actual threats to our National sovereignty such as Geithners receptiveness to a global currency as opposed to a Strong dollar policy, Obama’s proposed tripling of funding to the IMF and his fondness of self proclaimed “trans-nationalist” lawyers such as Harold Koh, a possible Supreme Court nominee. Are these not real issues worth discussing? Does bringing them up make someone a “bircher” autmatically? If I were to bring these up at LGF nowm I think I would probably be flames and possibly blocked (If I hadn’t already for wondering why a particular book was the subject of such scorn.)

Oh and in case you’re wondering, the living Conservative thinkers I tend to read the most are Jonah Goldberg, Charles Krauthammer, Victor Davis Hanson and Joshua Muravchik. Michelle Malkin, Hot Air and The Activity Pit (lol) are my favorite blogs. My favorite TV commentators are Krauthammer and Brit Hume. I also happen to enjoy watching Glenn Beck these days, even if he does have a 1990’s Black Helicopter type of mindset. And I still enjoy David Frum and LGF to an extent. Because I like Beck and Malkin though, does this make me a Bircher or Christianist or whatever other euphemism is being used at that site these days?

Daemonocracy on April 10, 2009 at 4:41 PM

Meh. Pour it on yourself next time if it’s such a good idea. Having Schultz sit there schmaltzing it up was dumb.

Midas on April 10, 2009 at 4:56 PM

Daemonocracy, AMEN!

sandee on April 10, 2009 at 4:59 PM

Beck’s a populist buffoon. Not surprised the dumbshi*t wing of the conservative movement loves the guy though. On his best day, he’s no more than a tier one thinker.

dakine on April 10, 2009 at 5:03 PM

Beck’s great. The point seems simple, the debt is going to cripple the country, so might as well make it quick rather than drawn out. His metaphor is a bit over the top but so what?

brogers on April 10, 2009 at 5:11 PM

Beck’s a populist buffoon. Not surprised the dumbshi*t wing of the conservative movement loves the guy though. On his best day, he’s no more than a tier one thinker.

dakine on April 10, 2009 at 5:03 PM

setting aside the personal attacks (he is an easy target after all), exactly what did he say that you find so disagreeable?

Daemonocracy on April 10, 2009 at 5:14 PM

Beck’s main point is that there is no one in washington that we can trust. Additionally, Beck made the assertion that polititians say one thing while campaigning and govern a different way once elected. The common thread, distrust of politicians.

So defend mistrust of politicians, trolls…

daesleeper on April 10, 2009 at 5:21 PM

Preview button failure…

That whould be, defend lying and/or untrustworthy politicians.

daesleeper on April 10, 2009 at 5:22 PM

It took alot of restraint and deep breathing to not drive my Avalanche right over her Prius.
Tell me I am not alone.
tru2tx on April 9, 2009 at 7:41 PM

Every time I see an Obama sticker or a Che shirt I start ranting. They want a armed revolution…I wish they would start it soon. We can get down to brass tacks then.

PierreLegrand on April 10, 2009 at 5:26 PM

No, LGF is becoming more and more niche. The type of people deemed tolerable on that site shrinks every day. It used to be the hate mongers who would be purged, but now it seems everyone is a “young Earth creationist” or “Bircher”. The John Birch Society? Really? I didn’t even know they were still around, but it seems like everyone is a “bircher” on LGF.

I don’t go to Little Green Footballs anymore. I was banned and delinked because I thought his evidence for accusing people of being racists was pretty thin. The level of commenters there got pretty stupid over the last 3 years. Was a little disappointed when I was banned but got over it and now don’t miss the place at all.

Bunch of anon punks following Charles lead…and thinking they are conservative. Charles is no conservative.

PierreLegrand on April 10, 2009 at 5:32 PM

Enough of the defense of Charles Johnson. Good Lord.

Drum on April 10, 2009 at 5:34 PM

After watching that video, and then seeing the defense of Beck here, all I can say is this: intellectual conservatism, if not dead, is nearing critical organ failure.

Krydor on April 10, 2009 at 6:13 PM

After watching that video, and then seeing the defense of Beck here, all I can say is this: intellectual conservatism, if not dead, is nearing critical organ failure.

Krydor on April 10, 2009 at 6:13 PM

Of course they can’t coexist, that would be impossible. :/

Daemonocracy on April 10, 2009 at 6:32 PM

Of course they can’t coexist, that would be impossible. :/

Daemonocracy on April 10, 2009 at 6:32 PM

No, they can’t. If you look up the definition of “conservative”, nowhere will you see, “out of your mind ranting”. What Beck does is the antithesis of conservative. It’s a LIBERAL dose of over the top stupidity.

Krydor on April 10, 2009 at 6:37 PM

People,

Why are you acting surprised at Becks antics on his TV show?

Didn’t any of you see his TV show before Fox or listen to him on radio?

Why is everybody acting so surprised?

He has fun and emphasizes the fact we are heading for a cliff financially. Lots of people are saying that.

He just does it with more….uh….um….gasoline, that’s all.

Lighten up.

Sapwolf on April 10, 2009 at 7:08 PM

No, they can’t. If you look up the definition of “conservative”, nowhere will you see, “out of your mind ranting”. What Beck does is the antithesis of conservative. It’s a LIBERAL dose of over the top stupidity.

Krydor on April 10, 2009 at 6:37 PM

Conservatism dictates how one should behave? News to me.

Daemonocracy on April 10, 2009 at 7:38 PM

May we all remember how we got here, how we were delivered as a people, and never forget the price and nature of sacrifice…and that hardships inflicted by our Creator are not punishments, but have a higher purpose, regardless of our ability to understand that purpose. Unless we remember our common history, we are doomed to lose all that has been sacrificed in the past for us, and it can happen in a heartbeat!

Best wishes for an enjoyable and reflective holiday season!

stonemeister on April 10, 2009 at 8:22 PM

Conservatism dictates how one should behave? News to me.

Daemonocracy on April 10, 2009 at 7:38 PM

It sure does. Conservatism has USUALLY been about rational discourse and restraint. It’s why conservatives don’t like big government, big taxes and doing things on the spur of the moment.

Liberals do what Beck does. Let’s leave irrational rants to the people that spend their days building paper mache heads and worrying about 9-11 being an inside job.

Krydor on April 10, 2009 at 8:28 PM

It sure does. Conservatism has USUALLY been about rational discourse and restraint. It’s why conservatives don’t like big government, big taxes and doing things on the spur of the moment.

Liberals do what Beck does. Let’s leave irrational rants to the people that spend their days building paper mache heads and worrying about 9-11 being an inside job.

So since William F Buckley Jr. called Gore Vidal a “Damn Queer” and threatened to “slap him in the face and he’ll stay plastered”, I guess that means he’s not a Conservative?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nYymnxoQnf8

Daemonocracy on April 10, 2009 at 9:16 PM

So since William F Buckley Jr. called Gore Vidal a “Damn Queer” and threatened to “slap him in the face and he’ll stay plastered”, I guess that means he’s not a Conservative?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nYymnxoQnf8

Daemonocracy on April 10, 2009 at 9:16 PM

Wow, that was quite a leap to that conclusion.

Glenn Beck pulls this kind of crap every day, and you attempt to smear Buckley with the same brush?

Conservatism is about sober second thought and rationality. I suggest you find a new name for whatever the hell ideology it is you follow and get the hell away from mine.

Krydor on April 10, 2009 at 10:34 PM

Wow, that was quite a leap to that conclusion.

Glenn Beck pulls this kind of crap every day, and you attempt to smear Buckley with the same brush?

Conservatism is about sober second thought and rationality. I suggest you find a new name for whatever the hell ideology it is you follow and get the hell away from mine.

Yes, by using your flawed and misguided logic, I smeared Buckley.

YOU don’t like the way Beck presents himself. That’s YOUR opinion. Don’t drag Conservatism into this. Conservatism is a list of deeply held core values, not some sort of rules for behavior or cult. It has nothing to do with controlling one’s personality or how they pitch their message.

Daemonocracy on April 10, 2009 at 10:52 PM

Beck does what he does (quite well I think) and made a wave.

It’s America, and we still have the right to voice opinion and dissent.

I think it’s great that we can opine here & hope it can continue – but-

We are all Americans. We all (most) have children. And we all don’t want a Cuba like existence. At least I hope not. Alot of Americans have never read the Constitution nor visited another Country. There is no knowledge base. Perhaps this will incite some to do just that.

All Beck was trying to say is this Admin’s record of a drama a day cannot continue and the “fresh ideas” may hurt this country. He was begging the Admin to let up and let America breathe and refresh and review the pending legislation. Let our representatives read a bill and let us all make decisions together.

Not too hard.

This railroading under the guise of “impending doom” is BS.

He simply called it like he saw it with some humor. It wasn’t nasty. It wasn’t personal. It was Glenn Beck.

seesalrun on April 10, 2009 at 11:56 PM

Liberals do what Beck does. Let’s leave irrational rants to the people that spend their days building paper mache heads and worrying about 9-11 being an inside job.

Maybe you havent been paying attention but we been getting our asses beat by those liberals. Maybe adopting some of their tactics is in order….attention spans being short and all.

PierreLegrand on April 11, 2009 at 12:36 AM

Schulz is used to being covered in liquid from a man.

Speedwagon82 on April 11, 2009 at 2:10 AM

Daemonocracy,

you are full of WIN, brother!

el gordo on April 11, 2009 at 7:19 AM

All Beck said is that Obamma is piling it on the average American to the point that the burdens are simply too much. To push for amnesty now, when people are getting laid off everywhere,shows a disconnect from this administration
with it’s own citizens,who are stuggling mightily . Now he wants to throw in the care and feeding of millions of illegals? Set us on fire is right.

lizzee on April 11, 2009 at 9:03 AM

No coffee yet. Obama, struggling.There fixed it.

lizzee on April 11, 2009 at 9:05 AM

so CyanSnowHawk, baby…..
what exactly was it that happened
to MamaWinger & Ma Sands????
real rebel-rousers, them two!!
yup….jus’git’em the fk outta there.

lobosan5 on April 11, 2009 at 10:00 AM

YOU don’t like the way Beck presents himself. That’s YOUR opinion. Don’t drag Conservatism into this. Conservatism is a list of deeply held core values, not some sort of rules for behavior or cult. It has nothing to do with controlling one’s personality or how they pitch their message.

Daemonocracy on April 10, 2009 at 10:52 PM

Well, you’re wrong. Conservatism is about restraint. Side show freaks, like Beck, make the movement a joke. Express yourself all you want. Heck, I expect that you’ll get your wish and then all the RINO’s will leave the party. All that will be left is the snake oil salesmen and those who want the quick cure.

Oh, and when you compare a one off by Buckley to the clown show of Beck, then you are smearing Buckley.

Maybe you havent been paying attention but we been getting our asses beat by those liberals. Maybe adopting some of their tactics is in order….attention spans being short and all.

PierreLegrand on April 11, 2009 at 12:36 AM

Or, you know, you might, well, GOVERN LIKE CONSERVATIVES. Maybe you haven’t been paying attention, but the party of small government and fiscal restraint spent their entire time in power increasing the scope of government and spending beyond their means.

Meanwhile, they decided that HUGELY IMPORTANT ISSUES like gay marriage and stem cells were how to stay in power. Was power at any price worth it? Why, no it wasn’t because you ended up with someone much worse.

You couldn’t beat him because you have no credibility on the core tenets of the organization.

Krydor on April 11, 2009 at 10:10 AM

Had to miss Glenn last night. Any of you have any information or insights on how he did?

Bambi on April 11, 2009 at 10:36 AM

Charles deletes comments that reflect poorly on LGF and would be used against him by his critics, usually on the left, to cast LGF, and by extension, all conservatives, as crackpots, warmongers, racists, whatever.

So in other words, he bans anyone he wants based on his personal philosophy. Sounds lame to me.

True_King on April 11, 2009 at 10:50 AM

It’s only been a couple of months.

We ain’t seen nothing yet.

Dr. ZhivBlago on April 11, 2009 at 11:04 AM

Beck is a character but he is making strong points with direct and simple language and is getting people to listen. We keep talking about getting the conservative message out to a broader audience and Beck is doing just that. Conservatism is not about “restraint”. It is a set of principles that does not require a Harvard education and a vocabulary to match to understand and practice. Limiting conservative membership to those who read National Review and exhibit “restraint” is ridiculous. If Beck’s presentation appeals to the dreaded low-brow, “country” people, who freakin’ cares if they are being educated about and are fighting for the same principles we all care about? Elitism will destroy the conservative movement faster than keeping the doors open for all who believe and can persuade.

LGF has dropped off my radar. I stopped reading Sullivan once he became an obsessive, one-issue-all-the-time blogger and I have stopped visiting LGF since the obsessive ranting started against European political groups and, now, his crusade against the Discovery Institute. Both issues have some interest but certainly do not warrant the amount of time and vitriol Johnson throws at them.

inmypajamas on April 11, 2009 at 11:21 AM

LGF is a plant. It was designed to add to the mainstream media’s attempts at hijacking Constitutionalists and Christians. Test them by their fruits.

True_King on April 11, 2009 at 12:17 PM

http://www.mediabistro.com/tvnewser/ratings/

With 20% LESS available audience at 5pm. Glenn is beating the other three networks combined in his time slot, and everybody else except O’Reilly, Hannity, and the O’Reilly rerun.

Just have fun with it. Standing by and saying/doing nothing got us where we are today.

AE on April 11, 2009 at 12:36 PM


inmypajamas on April 11, 2009 at 11:21 AM

Beck is a character but he is making strong points with direct and simple language and is getting people to listen. We keep talking about getting the conservative message out to a broader audience and Beck is doing just that.

No, he isn’t. It’s the opposite. The combined reach of cable news doesn’t even come close to the big three networks. He’s nothing but a buffoon that seems to entertain the fringe. I think he’s a fool.

Conservatism is not about “restraint”. It is a set of principles that does not require a Harvard education and a vocabulary to match to understand and practice. Limiting conservative membership to those who read National Review and exhibit “restraint” is ridiculous.

Actually, it is entirely about restraint in governance. It doesn’t require a Harvard education to understand. It doesn’t require some idiot with a giant clown nose to spread it.

If Beck’s presentation appeals to the dreaded low-brow, “country” people, who freakin’ cares if they are being educated about and are fighting for the same principles we all care about? Elitism will destroy the conservative movement faster than keeping the doors open for all who believe and can persuade.

I had no idea that xenophobia and conspiracy theories coupled with distinct flair for fear mongering was what conservatism is all about. Thanks, Glenn, for spreading the message to the masses!

Seems to me that you’ve done a fine job of purging the elites already.

Krydor on April 11, 2009 at 12:48 PM

krydor: You think that by calling those who listen to Beck low brow, trogladites and other pleasant names you are going to stop us. You are just nuts! I challenge you to listen to a complete show and not just listen to your friends on the left. It’s obvious he’s making an impression, otherwise you “progressives” wouldn’t be on him. He worries you, doesn’t he? He treats both parties the same, but you wouldn’t know that because you don’t listen.
GO BECK!!!!!!

Bambi on April 11, 2009 at 1:26 PM

Well, you’re wrong. Conservatism is about restraint. Side show freaks, like Beck, make the movement a joke. Express yourself all you want. Heck, I expect that you’ll get your wish and then all the RINO’s will leave the party. All that will be left is the snake oil salesmen and those who want the quick cure.

Conservatism is about Government restraint. Restraint of those in power, not the individual. That is Authoritarianism. And when the hell did I bring up RINOs?

Had to miss Glenn last night. Any of you have any information or insights on how he did?

Bambi on April 11, 2009 at 10:36 AM

It was an awesome show. He went into more detail about his “fascism” speak and toned down his antics to try and put things into context. Obviously a response to some of the attention he had been getting, but nothing apologetic. Instead he brought on some of the most credible minds to back up his message. Jonah Goldberg being one. Now let’s see if those who spend most of their time being embarassed for their own, try to attack Jonah Goldberg.

Daemonocracy on April 11, 2009 at 2:16 PM

krydor: You think that by calling those who listen to Beck low brow, trogladites and other pleasant names you are going to stop us. You are just nuts! I challenge you to listen to a complete show and not just listen to your friends on the left. It’s obvious he’s making an impression, otherwise you “progressives” wouldn’t be on him. He worries you, doesn’t he? He treats both parties the same, but you wouldn’t know that because you don’t listen.
GO BECK!!!!!!

Bambi on April 11, 2009 at 1:26 PM

Look, here’s the point: we want elite athletes on our sports teams, elite scientists making the discoveries and elite engineers designing our infrastructure. Not one of you would accept a self taught doctor when it comes to surgery. Far too many of you are comfortable with incompetents and their water carriers spreading conservatism to the masses.

I’ll keep my elites, thank you. You enjoy listening to the likes of Beck, Limbaugh, Savage and whatever. If you think that they will eventually help conservatism, you are sadly mistaken.

I’m worried that more people will take him and Alex Jones seriously. He certainly isn’t a threat to me. Enjoy the wilderness as you force out people who can actually do stuff.

Daemonocracy on April 11, 2009 at 2:16 PM

Conservatism is about Government restraint. Restraint of those in power, not the individual. That is Authoritarianism. And when the hell did I bring up RINOs?

Really, so self control has nothing to do with it? If you don’t send people to Washington who practice self restraint in their daily lives, they sure as hell aren’t going to practice restraint when given the keys to the kingdom.

When government is made of the people, you should probably elect the most capable and not the shiniest.

Krydor on April 11, 2009 at 3:24 PM

I thought the bit by Glenn beck was humorous and got his point across. Yes, it’s dramatic, but who (other than those mesmerized by him) isn’t upset with the speed that this dolt has done such damaging things to our country.

As for this comment above:

“You enjoy listening to the likes of Beck, Limbaugh, Savage and whatever. If you think that they will eventually help conservatism, you are sadly mistaken.”

I think you are the one mistaken. Well, maybe not when referring to Michael Savage. Michael Savage does not belong in the same sentence as Rush Limbaugh. But to think that anyone represents conservatism better than Rush Limbaugh shows either a lack of understanding of what conservatism is or a lack of knowing anything about Rush (or both).

ArgoNunya on April 11, 2009 at 7:50 PM

Really, so self control has nothing to do with it? If you don’t send people to Washington who practice self restraint in their daily lives, they sure as hell aren’t going to practice restraint when given the keys to the kingdom.

When government is made of the people, you should probably elect the most capable and not the shiniest.

Krydor on April 11, 2009 at 3:24 PM

Restraint? Do you think Beck is going to tackle someone or kill someone he doesn’t agree with? What are you talking about? As long as he is recognizing the rule of law, then he is with in the realm of Conservatism. That’s the only restraint he needs. We’re talking specifically about personality here, which is what you are objecting to. His mannerisms, his demeanor, his tone, but I am focusing on his words and personally find his antics entertaining and harmless.

As far as electing the “shiniest”, Beck is a TV personality, not a candidate. Spare me the Red Herrings.

Daemonocracy on April 11, 2009 at 11:13 PM

I like Glenn. He’s a breath of fresh air on Fox News. I hardly watch O’Reilly any more – I mean c’mon. He is soooo incredibly wrong sometimes. The “one guy sets the gas prices” schtick, etc. I don’t even remember the tipping point for me – probably something about immigration, guns or Palin.

I thought I could watch Hannity after that reprehensible Alan Colmes left, but now it’s worse than ever. He has left wing nutjobs on the show that are worse that Colmes!

Glenn certainly finds creative ways to make a point. Fans of Redeye can fully appreciate the use of Bill Schulz.

I wish Fox Nes would forget all of this “Fair and balanced” crap and just go right wing. It’d be so much easier to watch.

Go Glenn!

darwin-t on April 13, 2009 at 7:04 AM